Mohammad Rizwan shaikh , Manglore

This is the reply to mr dr M. K. Sherif u said faisal was on dialysis for last 1 year, sir u know he was in saudi, he came to india in may this year when he was having kidney disease and going thru dialysis how can he pass the medical test before going to saudi, he worked in saudi for 8 month in al safi danone co.ltd as written in the article and he was in the icu for last 3 to 4 days before he took his last breath before 3 days he was in m i c u ward for 3 days and he requested u to remove him frm micu because not a single nurse or dr was there to look after him in night and his family members were not allowed to sit outside the ward, as far as u said that his fistula busted that day sir for ur kind information u ppl have removed fistula 8 days before due to infection, u also said that hospital has been financially helping them for last 2 day there is no attachment option available in this site other wise i would have uploaded all the bills hospital has given us to pay since last 10 days.

If u cant take responsibility pls dont blame them any body pls dont comment unless u know the truth, mr sherif y dont u say why faisal's relatives assaulted the dr and nurse, they assaulted u bcoz 1 of ur ward nurse or dr came out after his death was announced and said to his mom y r u shouting faisal have already has failed his both kidney he was already half gone now he ia fully gone to his reply his mother said there are so many ppl living on dialysis for more then 10 yrs and u r saying he was half gone if u will suffer frm same i will ask u r u half gone and after his mother reply that male nurse or dr who ever he is slapped his mother, is this the way hospital staff behave to the person who lost her 24yr old son.Faisal's family have lost to much in this 4 month pls dont abuse or give this sort of statements. Today 22nd august faisal's father & sister going to hospital to clear the pending dues, if possible Sherif pls say sorry for ur comment,they r very upset with ur comment

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Dr M.K. Sherif, Pandeshwar

The patient suffered from a condition called chronic Kidney disease , he also suffered from acute Pancreatitis and septicemia.He has been explained that he has 90% mortality risk in a year, The patient party has signed all the informed consent on the case sheet. He was on dialysis since 1 year through a AV fistula which burst yesterday. The patient was irregular on dialysis and not following his recommended plan of 3 dialysis per week.. Hence was going bad, the patient party who claimed had no money , was given financial support from the hospital. For the last two days he has been advised that requires urgent dialysis and ICU care but his mother was violently protesting against this idea. He was prepared for urgent dialysis through a femoral catheter , but before it could begin he developed complications in the dialysis room and was shifted to the ICU , the patient party refused to allow him to be shifted to the ICU , when the duty Specialist doctor was doing his work the party hindered shifting to the ICU and hence the doctor shifted him to the ICU in the best interest of patient. The patient party who got angry because he was shifted to the ICU , they were violent and CCTV footage has showed all clear evidence how they jeopardized other critically ill people in the ICU and also assaulted two doctors and 1 nurse. Unfortunately the hardworking keenly interested doctor simply suffered for doing his work in best interest of the patient. The resident doctor actually pays a hefty fees and works 18 hours a day for 7 days a week and sees about 50 patients under him . The hospital management chickened out on this whole issue because of ulterior motives. The hospital is a medical college hospital which runs on minimal basic charges with no benefit to the resident doctor nor professor. They work on a fixed salary. We the resident doctors are extremely unhappy, sad and disappointed about the uncultured attitude of these people who receive treatment out of our own money and be

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David W Moskowitz MD, Leesburg, Florida

I'm not saying I could have helped the young man who died. There's too little information to deduce why he had kidney failure, let alone why or where he started bleeding from. But 90% of dialysis in older adults is caused by only 2 diseases, diabetes and high blood pressure. In 2002 I published how to reverse early-stage kidney disease in these 2 diseases. In theory, then, 90% of kidney failure is already preventable, although probably not this unfortunate young man's. But the waiting list for a kidney transplant will surely get shorter if there are 90% fewer people waiting for a kidney.

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Pavan, Mangalore

Rightly said... most patients come when the symptoms have drastically increased and in bad state... whoever commenting that doctors prescribe unnecessary tests and medicines i know of so many patients who think doctor dosnt know anytin if tests r nt ordered and if patient dsnt gt relief hours... in ds case d patient hismelf is to blame who dint adhere for dialysis pply... what will u do if all doctors wil refer u tinking about these assaults??? Then its d patients who will suffer

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A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

What Mr. Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai said is absolutely correct.

"they can only induce FEAR so you budge".

Recently one of our relatives who was 72 years old was critically ill, took to a good hospital in Kerala and one doctor personally known to us said, instead of wasting money by the lakhs through
unnecessary treatment and testing let she die peacefully here.

But some other doctors played the tricky fear inducing technique, so she was moved to another hospital of the same corporations did many unnecessary testing and treatment, and she died within one week.

Did the hospital do that service free of charge? No, now the hospital industry is turning as the highway legal robbery, truly very sad to see this predicament of the society, the pure greed game playing with human lives.

In some hospitals, if we reach the doorsteps for simply cold, if we are rich, they will order a battery of tests, the tests will be negative but our pockets also will be getting empty. It seems like, now the doctors are afraid with an unstable amnesia disorder to identify even minor diseases to please the investors and to keep the modern very high priced testing
instruments busy to get the maximum return out of the investment. Besides to pay back their huge educational expenditure. Great good Samaritans of the 1st century!

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Dr. Abdulla Jaleel, Mangalore

I am a specialist doctor working as a staff in the same hospital belonging to the same community. I would like to add a note that this particular group of people from thiss region are trouble makers. Yesterday there was no fault of the doctor who was earnestly helpin the patient to be saved and the mother and Uncle where violently protesting why did u shift him to ICU , he would have died with us. Its a sorry state of the college and hospitals where doctors themselves are at risk of their life. The health minister seems more interested in getting pictures taken.

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oswald lobo, mangalore

now a days those who completed MBBS is not capable to call as a doctor. now the new diseases appear now and then doctor should know thorough knowledge of occurrence od diseases and remedies.The incident occurs often those who don't have knowledge treat the patients with wrong medicines later the condition of patient becomes serious doctor wash their hands.

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Rita, Germany

@Oswald lobo,mangalore,Please dont give comments and blame on medical Team.I ask one Thing why should whole mob who has nothing to do with the Patient,not knowing anything about the Patient should gather and shout and destroy the Hospital Inventor?when patients relatives have questions ok,it is another catogery.but so many People who are they why are they there ?who knows about kidney ailments,dialysis?and Problems?Police should be immediately called and Action should be taken when such case arises.They are Trouble makers to all including relatives.Hospital should have taken blood according to the Needs.Now two bottles are a waste very costbar good it is.This public never learns.In future should Hospital summon Police when a Patient dies in Hospital?or have a Team allround the clock ?whatever the cause doctor knows and he will answer to relatives.So please dont make Problems in front of Hospital or make other patients to get afraid.May his Soul rest in peace.

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Dr. Frankie, Mangalore

Mr. Oswald. Do you have any experience in the field of Medicine? If no, I suggest you take up English classes and then study some medicine. Until then, please don't comment on subjects you have no idea of whatsoever . Thank you.

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H. Almeida., Bendur/Andheri.

India does not have HEALTH CARE... ESPECIALLY FOR SENIOR CITIZENS & THOSE AFFILIATED WITH SERIOUS HEALTH AILMENTS........ TO ADMIT A
PATIENT IN A REPUTED HOSPITAL ONE HAS TO CARRY A BRIEF CASE FULL OF HARD CASH !!!!!! COMMON MAN HAS TO SLUDGE IT OUT... AT ANY STATE OR MUNICIPAL HOSPITALS ......... THE RESULTS ARE OFTEN DEATH !!!!!!!!!!
FRUSTRATIONS & ANGER RESULTS IN VIOLENCE..... THIS IS HAPPENING IN VARIOUS HOSPITALS IN MUMBAI & OTHER STATES OF OUR NATION........
WESTERN & OTHER ADVANCED COUNTRIES ARE PRIVILEGED....... TO OFFER ITS CITIZENS MEDICAL CARE........HERE YOU DIE & FADE INTO HISTORY !!!!!!!

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RequiemWorld, World

Very sorry to hear his Demise. May his soul rest In peace..

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C K DAYANANDA, MANGALURU

Two days back U T Khader warned Doctors in stead of culprits who assaulted the Doctors.

Under the protection of such political bosses and appeasement, anti-social elements are having free hand in Ullal and DK.

It is natural for any one to rise hand when the relatives of the patient use abusive language.

I pray to the Lord to save D K by destroying these anti-social elements and their political masters.

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perchu, pervaje

this is not a correct way of dealing with doctors. if this trend continue then hospital/doctors may not admit some patient into their hospital unless/until the patient/party submitted the affidavit. this is not a good sign.

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Nasir, Bajpe

No doctor would wish his/her patient should not be recovered from illness. But the problem is that the hospitals have become a business. No doctor cares for his patient.

One example I can give you is my father was in ICU for several days. we used to buy medicine daily worth 4,000 - 5,000. The strange thing is that daily they used 1 packet of gloves (50 pairs each). I dont know where these gloves going since we have to buy all the medicines from the hospital itself.

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Rao, udupi

True, I also experienced the same in one of the Udupi Hospital. My dad was admitted and was in ICU. Daily Rs 6000- 7000 towards pharmacy bill. it includes diapers, gloves, injections, syringes etc. God knows how much is being used.i have seen nurses wasting medicines, gloves etc. in the ward. They don't care. anyway at that time we only think about our loved one to get well soon. There is no alternative. It is a total mess in most of the hospitals. No professionalism at all. God save the patients

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mann, mangalore

birth and death is upto God but i have seen how doctors behave arrogantly..there hardly is humanity left..instead of nobel profession it has become money making enterprise.

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Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

Doctors do their best to treat and save patience. Rest in God's hands.
Patient was on dialysis for prolonged time but the unruly, uncivilized action taken by the mob is not justified.

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Ahmed , K.S.A

Birth and Death Decided by Allah not by Doctors or Nurses Big FOOLS

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Aadil Khan, Kasaragod/Saudi Arabia

No doctor would wish his/her patient should not be recovered from illness. Layman does not know the medical theory of any decease and bursting and attacking the treating doctor would certainly warrant a legal action against the culprit.

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Kusuma Kumari CHiitti G , Nellore/Kodyadka

Attacks on Doctors are on the rise. If this trend continues a day is not far away Doctors will be defensive and the cost of treatment wil go very high This is a sad trend

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Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

They are already practicing highly defensive medicine by putting gullible patients to unnecessary costly tests like MRIs, CT scans, angigraphies etc. to pocket the commission due to increasing greed!! It is no more a noble profession but a money raking one!!

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Raja Khan, Udupi, Mangalore

Agreed. But, if you feel doctor is simply asking to get xrays, Maris, angiography etc, decline his orders and go to another doctor. No one forces you. It is like shopping.

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xyz, bangalore

None of these tests are forced on any patients. It is always done with their consent. And if u havr the confidence tht it is for money raking why go through them. U can always refuse at your own risk and sign off. Then when a life is lost at least then you wont blame the docs but yourself.

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Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

What do you mean by use of force in the first place, how can they, they can only induce FEAR so you budge?

I meant most of the docs rarely have skills, rather they straight away go for evidence based medicine which is very easy for them but cuts deep holes in the patient's pockets!!

Forget here, even in the US so many reputed docs and hospitals have been charged with sending patients for unnecessary costly tests to milk the insurance cos.!!

Would urge you to read the recently released book by some very ethical and upright docs "Voices of Conscience from the Medical Profession" by Dr. Arun Gadre and Dr. Abhay Shukla to know the underbelly of corporate hospitals!!! Jai Hind!

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Harish, Kadaba

Do u know how much one per right now has to spend to become AN Dr wiith MD ?? minimum2 crore. !

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Rudolf, Mumbai

That means they will take crores from any TDH candidate and issue him a degree and he in turn with his half baked skills will use patients and scapegoats and to further his agenda of fast profits by recommending unnecessary tests without any guilt, this is highly despicable and goes against humanity!!

Have you heard there are strict figures of conversions of OPD patients into admission and certain minimal costly tests (unwarranted) for a doc to survive his job or he is out all this is mentioned in the book I have named above!! It is said that even 25% of our med grads who pass out from pvt. medical colleges will pass USMLE level exam due to degradation of education, so they are planning exit exams for med grads so they are of certain caliber before joining post degree courses or starting practice!!!

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