Hindutva is country's national identity: Mohan Bhagwat


NAGPUR, Oct 4 (PTI): In an address whose live telecast by Doordarshan sparked a controversy, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat today described Hindutva as the country's "national identity" and the "thread of unity" running through its diversities.

Speaking at the customary function on Dusshera which coincides with 89th foundation day of his organisation, the RSS chief also patted the Narendra Modi government for initiatives on national security, economy and international relations in a short period of four months.

The hour-long broadcast by DD for the first time of an RSS function stoked a row with Congress and CPI(M) attacking the government for "misuse" of the state broadcaster while BJP defended it, saying RSS genuinely contributed to patriotism and always patronised 'justice to all' philosophy.

Coming out in support of Bhagwat, Prime Minister Narendra Modi hailed the address, saying the issues of social reform the RSS chief raised are "very relevant" today.

"Mohan Bhagwat ji talked about important national issues in his speech. The issues of social reform that he raised are very relevant today," Modi tweeted.

In his address, Bhagwat said RSS has been engaged since 1925 in building a virtuous, strong and organised society.

"The all inclusive and all encompassing truth is what we call Hindutva. It is our national identity. That is why we should take the Sangh Shakha to each home in every village, street and community," he said.

"Sangh has been doing it for many decades. It believes in unity in diversity, which does not ask anybody to leave anything except their vices and arrogance, which is the thread of unity running through the country' diversities, this is Hindutva," he said.

Deprecating the live telecast, Congress spokesman Sandeep Dikshit said it was a "dangerous tradition".

"It is a dangerous tradition. This is not an organisation which is completely neutral. It is a controversial organisation," he said, adding it is a political decision of the government.

His party colleague Abhishek Manu Singhvi feared that from now on, the country would be ruled through the official media "for Nagpur, by Nagpur and of Nagpur".

Condemning the live broadcast, CPI(M) said, "The RSS uses the occasion to propagate its Hindutva ideology."

The CPI also came out against the live telecast with its National Secretary D Raja saying the government, particularly the Information and Broadcasting Ministry, should give an explanation to the people for allowing DD to be the mouthpiece for the RSS.

In his address, Bhagwat said people should give some more time to the Modi government for expeditious and efficient execution of its policies.

  

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  • sam, world

    Sat, Oct 18 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "Let me clear you, are humans come(born) in to this world as sinners???!!"
    "Yes or no as simple it is, what is that which is avoiding you to reply!!??"

    - I am addressing your concern, but to answer this I need to know the answers to the questions below from your belief. The question you are asking is very important for all of us as that discusses the very Nature of God.
    - Do you believe humans make mistakes and sin?
    - If people offend each other e.g. steal, rape, etc., should they be punished? and who should give the punishment?
    - If people offend God, should they be punished? Who should give the punishment? Can God punish humans?
    - Should people atone when they make a mistake against each other?
    - Should people atone to God if they offend God?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 18 2014

    mr sam,

    by your comments you mean that:

    you have some beliefs about your version of truth,

    but you dont want to give explanation for it maybe fearing that you will be exposed.

    on the other hand asking others to explain truth and also provide justification for it.lolz.

    good day,thanks

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  • sam, world

    Sun, Oct 19 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "but you dont want to give explanation for it maybe fearing that you will be exposed."


    - ??? exposed to what?

    - Even before we can elaborate the word Truth, we must at least establish some criteria on how we can identify Truth. The question I asked you "Can truth contradict?" will not make any sense if we cannot establish some criteria on certain attributes of Truth.
    - If you are still interested in the discussion, please try to explain some basic questions that I asked about a week ago e.g. Can Truth contradict or Can Truth be relative and the ones I posted above to vedaasthuthi, udupi recently (i.e. the comment to which you replied above).

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Oct 17 2014

    @sam,worldYou said the few things in the beginning of post.So i gave you the appropriate reply.
    It seems to me that you are ignoring my REPLIES…
    I found that instead of answering my request of your claim directly ,you are giving circular reasoning ,and i felt ,it is a sheer wasting of time.!!.

    Truth is no theory, no speculative system of phylosophy, No intelectuall insight, Truth is exact correspondence of reality. For man” TRUTH IS AN UNSHAKABLE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS REAL NATURE” and this is what my belief is!!
    And I have no were used religion while explaining “what is my version of truth” in all my replies..!!
    Now ,
    //The Christian answer to your comment is that "all Humans are created in the image of God" which is why we can distinguish between right and wrong//
    - According to your definition of “TURTH”, it validates anything (ie. endorses all or justifies whatever).This would include contradictions!!
    Kindly read below about "all Humans are created in the image of God"
    - Is human nature also included as per the image of god??  your answer to this will be interesting!!
    -Taking your grocer example , how will you explain who is right and who is wrong ??
    -What will happen if gorecer and customer has the same view which you presented ie "all Humans are created in the image of God"???
    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 17 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "It seems to me that you are ignoring my REPLIES…"
    - ??? I am responding to your comments aren't I ?
    - In the discussion for truth, I have given two different examples and for both of them I asked how do you know that something is true or not?
    - Thus the question on whether 2 plus 2 is equal to 4. In fact the same question will still be valid for other examples "2X2=4 OR 4X1=4 OR 5-1=4 OR 8/2=4"
    - Perhaps the problem arises because I have not seen a response from you if the reality we observe can be supported by facts or not

    "you are giving circular reasoning"
    - Really? and what is circular reasoning? Can you explain?

    "And I have no were used religion while explaining “what is my version of truth” in all my replies"
    - Here is the dictionary meaning for truth - the quality of being true the real facts about a situation, event, or person used to show or emphasize that something is true a fact or principle that is thought to be true by most people
    - If I wanted to, I could have gone to the dictionary a long time ago and pasted what truth is. But even then the question will come up - how do you know something is true or not?
    - As I said in an earlier comment "While you are probably seeking to find contradictory remarks in my discussion in the hopes to show "he isn't logically coherennt with that dogma" and "the logical pitfalls of his position", I am enquiring if the reality we observe can be supported by facts or not. "

    "According to your definition of “TURTH”, it validates anything (ie. endorses all or justifies whatever).This would include contradictions!!"
    - validates anything???
    - Didn't I ask you earlier "Let me ask you here what is a good path? Good compared to what?" in response to your earlier comment "If I am not wrong Mr Kuldesh mentioned that every(good)path will lead to alimighty/god"

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Sat, Oct 18 2014

    //It seems to me that you are ignoring my REPLIES…"
    - ??? I am responding to your comments aren't I ?
    - In the discussion for truth, I have given two different examples and for both of them I asked how do you know that something is true or not?
    - Thus the question on whether 2 plus 2 is equal to 4. In fact the same question will still be valid for other examples "2X2=4 OR 4X1=4 OR 5-1=4 OR 8/2=4"
    - Perhaps the problem arises because I have not seen a response from you if the reality we observe can be supported by facts or not//
    So if you say “mathematical equation can exist because of God” then how will you justify this claim!! Need a straight answer !!
    After requesting you to present your version of truth , you just gave a reply as "all Humans are created in the image of God" which is why we can distinguish between right and wrong!!
    So to make it clear kindly read below points
    "all Humans are created in the image of God"
    - Is human nature also included as per the image of god??  your answer to this will be interesting!!
    - Then what about women?? How is she created!!??
    -Taking your grocer example , how will you explain who is right and who is wrong ??
    -What will happen if gorecer and customer has the same view which you presented ie "all Humans are created in the image of God"???
    Kindly clarify the above points…I have tried my best explaining what my thoughts were regarding your questions, I can see by your reply that you are taking it personally.. sam unless and until you avoid answering ,this discussion about TRUTH will be alive…!!
    dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Sun, Oct 19 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "So if you say “mathematical equation can exist because of God” then how will you justify this claim!! Need a straight answer !!"
    - Last time you wrote this, I thought you made a mistake. Since you reposted the same comment, I find it very strange. Perhaps this is because I assumed you are a Pantheist. At this point I have to ask you if you an Atheist or a Pantheist? Do you know this for certain or not and can you tell me which one is it?

    "After requesting you to present your version of truth , you just gave a reply as "all Humans are created in the image of God" which is why we can distinguish between right and wrong!!"
    - I believe I addressed the issue before us in my last comment. You are confusing the discussion of enquiry of seeking truth with the Christian view that all humans are created in the image of God.
    - So let me rewrite it again. Here is the dictionary meaning for truth - the quality of being true the real facts about a situation, event, or person used to show or emphasize that something is true a fact or principle that is thought to be true by most people. If I wanted to, I could have gone to the dictionary a long time ago and pasted what truth is. But even then the question will come up - how do you know something is true or not?

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  • sam, world

    Sun, Oct 19 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "I can see by your reply that you are taking it personally.. "
    - ??? Neither you nor Kuldesh answered some basic questions that I asked a long time ago e.g. Can truth contradict or Can truth be relative?
    - While Kuldesh left the discussion a long time ago only to resurface and throw a comment that has no bearing on the discussion, it seems you are still trying to show "he isn't logically coherent with that dogma" and "the logical pitfalls of his position". On the other hand I am enquiring if the reality we observe can be supported by facts or not.

    "sam unless and until you avoid answering ,this discussion about TRUTH will be alive"
    - The discussion of Truth is important as that shapes how we understand God and his creation. If I wasn't interested I wouldn't have been writing comments to you for all this time.

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 17 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    I hope you are reading Genesis 2, 3 as that is important for the question you asked "It means that, since God is the Creator, the Father, and the Author of all that we are and have at birth, we cannot be born sinners. God has created us, and he does not create sinners. He created us in his image and likeness, which is not sinful. We are his offspring, and his offspring do not come into this world as sinners???!!!"

    While you read Genesis 2, 3, I have a few questions for you
    - Do you believe humans make mistakes and sin?
    - If people offend each other e.g. steal, rape, etc., should they be punished? and who should give the punishment?
    - If people offend God, should they be punished? Who should give the punishment? Can God punish humans?
    - Should people atone when they make a mistake against each other?
    - Should people atone to God if they offend God?

    Sin can range from a small lie to a violent action like killing.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Oct 17 2014

    @ sam ,world
    "It means that, since God is the Creator, the Father, and the Author of all that we are and have at birth, we cannot be born sinners. God has created us, and he does not create sinners. He created us in his image and likeness, which is not sinful. We are his offspring, and his offspring do not come into this world as sinners???!!!"
    do you agree with above statement???!!!
    Let me clear you, are humans come(born) in to this world as sinners???!!
    We will discuss the the other question after your reply!!
    No more wandering..!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Sat, Oct 18 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "Let me clear you, are humans come(born) in to this world as sinners???!!"
    - Did you read Genesis 2, 3 ? They are no more than 2 pages. I have posed some other questions to you as they are very important to explain your concerns.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Sat, Oct 18 2014

    @ sam ,world
    Let me clear you, are humans come(born) in to this world as sinners???!!"
    -Yes or no as simple it is, what is that which is avoiding you to reply!!??

    Did you hear this-Striking iron when it is hot gives you the desired shape !!
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Sat, Oct 18 2014

    @sam world
    Pranam ,
    kindly go through the below points to start our discussion on your question posted regarding sin
    If God created all things, doesn’t he is the creator of evil(false/wrong/ etc)
    If God is light in him there is no darkness at all and When God finished his creation, he appreciated that -all that he had made was very good..
    However, my question is anyone can clearly see that evil exists in our world, in awful measure.
    From here arises a major puzzle, If God is all-good, he should want to stop evil(false/wrong/ etc ) if he is omnipotent, he could stop it but evil exists in the world, so God lacks either all-goodness (if he can stop evil but does not want to) or omnipotence (if he wants to stop evil, but cannot), or both. As God is d to be all-good and all-powerful then how can this puzzle be solved????!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Wed, Oct 15 2014

    Dear sam,world
    ”I am not saying "God exists because 2 plus 2 is equal to 4" if this is your concern, The existence of God does not depend on a mathematical equation. But the mathematical equation can exist because of God”
    -Didn’t you say that why we have to accept 2X2=4 etc etc before , your above statement contradicts, coz how you will prove that “mathematical equation can exist because of God”??!! –kindly clearify

    “From the Christian perspective, all Humans are created in the image of God”
    -Then how can you explain your claim “mathematical equation can exist because of God” from your point of view to a person who don’t understand equations?!!

    “all Humans are created in the image of God”
    -So you are saying god has image and replicated to form humans ( with love etc etc)??!!- can you explain this
    But if all humans are created in the image of god ,then kindly go through the below passage ..
    It means that, since God is the Creator, the Father, and the Author of all that we are and have at birth, we cannot be born sinners. God has created us, and he does not create sinners. He created us in his image and likeness, which is not sinful. We are his offspring, and his offspring do not come into this world as sinners???!!!- Do you agree..!!!

    “While the degree of proof of God's existence or what is true may differ, both the literate and illiterate can conclude what they wish to believe based on their ability to reason”
    -So who misunderstood the concept of “truth” ,it was cleared before that every(good)path will lead to alimighty/god and for this humans need develop these good qualities(peace,brotherhood,compassion,humanity etc ).
    “Blacksmith =human body = material effect" do you mean to say 'Blacksmith is a human body and this is a material effect'”
    -If you are interested kindly go through Vedas , you need to study from the grass root level to know more about it!!
    “When I asked can truth contradict? I did not get any response from you or Kuldesh which was very strange.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Wed, Oct 15 2014

    CONTD...
    “When I asked can truth contradict? I did not get any response from you or Kuldesh which was very strange. Leave religion aside for a moment”
    -The topic was about truth ( wrt religion /god) , religion cannot be discarded on this topic here!!
    And you still did not give your version of word ‘TRUTH’ yet ,which you have claimed!!

    “imagine if you went to a grocer and purchased 100 Rs of vegetables and the grocer claims you gave him 50 Rs. Can both you and the grocer be true simultaneously? Can truth be relative? I hope you can see a bigger philosophical problem here. If truth is relative, then anything can be true and anything can be false. If truth is relative how can you claim "Without cause,there will be no effect"? How will you even know the cause? or even the effect?”
    - Kindly read this again> It is experience that comes to the conclusion that what comes out of observation, however illogical and unreasonable it may seem, must be taken at face value i.e the first step in recognizing something as reasonable. Same with instinct. This is exactly why most people who have never even studied logic or math are still able to recognize intuitively, valid and invalid arguments!!
    Now coming back to your grocer example-
    His conscience approves his right conduct and condemns his wrong conduct,the fact remains that all men know intuitively that they are responsible and accountable for their actions. An absolute standard of right and wrong is revealed and apparent to all men. Man's moral agency and his responsibility and accountability are so apparent that he cannot rationally deny them.
    Considering your example would you need to know that society frowned on such conduct to know that you had been wronged? What man ever needed the Book or religious instruction to know that it is wrong for someone to forcefully take what is his/mine? Do you need the Book to know that it is wrong for a person to insult you...

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Oct 16 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Your response to my comment is exactly the reason why I asked you if we can agree if 2 plus 2 equals 4. Entering into a metaphysical discussion becomes difficult if we cannot agree to simple basic facts. Would it make any sense to discuss Abstract algebra if the person doesn't even agree to basic concepts of algebra?

    You believe in the Vedas, while I believe in the Bible. Our existence and understanding of the world is shaped by how we view God and his creation based on our respective scriptures. This is also the reason why I said "The reason for asking you the question on 2 plus 2 equals 4 is because this has as much to do with philosophy as it has to do with reality."

    While you are probably seeking to find contradictory remarks in my discussion in the hopes to show "he isn't logically coherennt with that dogma" and "the logical pitfalls of his position", I am enquiring if the reality we observe can be supported by facts or not.

    If you believe "An absolute standard of right and wrong is revealed and apparent to all men", then there must be a method by which we can determine right and wrong and hence seek truth. The question then becomes how do we know that "right" is indeed right and "wrong" is indeed wrong? There is an article on Daijiworld where the article discusses the legalisation of prostitution - how do we agree or disagree on this? The same question will come up again - can truth be relative? can "right" be relative? can "wrong" be relative, etc.

    Lastly, from the Christian perspective all humans sin or make mistakes after the fall of man (Read Genesis 2, 3 if you have a Bible). The topic of sin is a separate discussion.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Thu, Oct 16 2014

    @SAM WORLD
    Man's innate convictions of right and wrong remain the same. What a man or a society will permit and the convictions of conscience are two different things. For instance, a man may himself be a thief and a liar. But does that mean that he has no convictions against stealing or lying? If someone steals from him, will he claim that there is nothing wrong with stealing? What liar ever said, "I see nothing wrong with lying. I love and admire liars. In fact, I just love it when people lie to me Or what murderer would ever say, "I see nothing wrong with murder in fact if someone attempted to murder me, I would put up no resistance at all."
    If there were no common standard of right and wrong revealed to man by his nature, we could have no human government. In fact, human government would be a mere imposition were it not for man's moral nature and would be ridiculous, as ridiculous as a moral government over animals. The very fact that men do have human government shows that men know themselves to be responsible moral agents. It shows that they have innate convictions of right and wrong, and that they have a conscious knowledge of responsibility and accountability.
    Will go through genesis 2,3 again!!
    For the moment kindly read swami dayanad saraswati’s book “THE LIGHT OF TRUTH” or in hindi “SATYARTHA PRAKASH” also read chapter 13 and 14 of this master piece which will help us to present our views in common platform(no confusion, no misunderstanding)!!

    Dhanyavad.

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 17 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "This is applicable only when a person knows algebra or else he doesn’t even bother whether 2X2 = 4 or infinity .Good that you are now coming to common conclusion!!"
    - This comment was in response to how we can seek truth and there are many more such cases observed in Nature and I simply picked one. If you do believe "Man's innate convictions of right and wrong remain the same.", then a person should be able to determine whether 2 plus 2 equals 4 or even with the example of the grocer i.e. who is telling the truth: the grocer or the person.
    - Wouldn't you agree that even though we are of different beliefs there is a way we can seek truth in God's creation and arrive at a common conclusion that are observable?

    "So if you say “mathematical equation can exist because of God” then how will you justify this claim!"
    - I am assuming you are a Pantheist since you believe in Hinduism. Kindly clarify.
    - This question for both you and me (Theist) goes into the subject of faith which is also a separate topic of discussion. As I said to you in an earlier comment this will be a long discussion and I hope you can see we are jumping around many many topics.

    "Man's innate convictions of right and wrong remain the same."
    - Why is this so? How did we inherit this?
    - If the innate convictions of right and wrong remain the same, what is the "right" or "wrong" being compared with?
    - The Christian answer to your comment is that "all Humans are created in the image of God" which is why we can distinguish between right and wrong. What is the answer from your belief?

    "kindly read swami dayanad saraswati’s book “THE LIGHT OF TRUTH”"
    - I am reading the chapters you mentioned.
    - I can provide responses to his concerns about Christianity, but they cannot fit in this comment box.
    - Rather than jump on many more topics on Swami Dayanand Saraswati's book, is there something specific within those chapters that you wish to discuss?

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Thu, Oct 16 2014

    @sam, world
    You have to explain then what is your version of 'TRUTH'
    Then we will verify whether it contradicts,or relative or......!!!!??
    Bring it on sam....
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Thu, Oct 16 2014

    @sam world
    “Would it make any sense to discuss Abstract algebra if the person doesn't even agree to basic concepts of algebra?”
    -Didn’t you read my comment on this before ..let me post it again which principle tells that 2X2=4 OR 4X1=4 OR 5-1=4 OR 8/2=4 OR (-2)*(-2)=4 is Unacceptable? .. This is applicable only when a person knows algebra or else he doesn’t even bother whether 2X2 = 4 or infinity .Good that you are now coming to common conclusion!!
    So if you say “mathematical equation can exist because of God” then how will you justify this claim!!????,

    “all Humans are created in the image of God”
    As you used the sentence above , are you not able to agree/disagree on below statement and I am not referring to any scripture here, Don’t be offended this is purely based on my thought .
    “But if all humans are created in the image of god ,then kindly go through the below passage ..
    It means that, since God is the Creator, the Father, and the Author of all that we are and have at birth, we cannot be born sinners. God has created us, and he does not create sinners. He created us in his image and likeness, which is not sinful. We are his offspring, and his offspring do not come into this world as sinners???!!!- Do you agree..!!!”
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    Dear sam,world
    Pranam

    Now sam we will see how you started when you used the word TRUTH in this article in a single thread which will be helpful for the readers as well as you and me!!
    Lets see how it goes ….
    sam, world
    Monday, October 06, 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    Sir, I wrote "various paths cannot lead to the same truth" to which you replied "then you have completely mistaken"

    I do not think you understood my comment. Truth does not contradict. Every religion claims to be the right one. If that is true, then truth becomes relative - Do you accept this and do you understand this?

    kuldesh, bangalore
    Monday, October 06, 2014
    i just wanted to convey:

    if any religion talks of peace,brotherhood,compassion,humanity etc even though the name of the path is different , it leads to same god.
    good day,thanks.
    sam, world
    Tuesday, October 07, 2014
    @kuldesh, bangalore

    Sir, peace,brotherhood,compassion,humanity etc are all good qualities that humans beings should have and strive for.
    All religions believe in certain truth claims - do you know this and do you understand this. If so, can you tell me if truth can contradict or if truth can be relative?
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    Dear Kuldesh , Banglr
    I will present my view as per the request , this may help him (Mr sam ,world ). Thought he would present his version truth but it didn’t happen . I was very keen to know his version and compare it to make him clear does TRUTH contradicts!!
    Only Mr sam,world knows why he is avoiding to elaborate the word ‘TRUTH’?!!!
    This is my understanding of WORD truth by using entitities shown below,
    truth=cause=real——>unborn=eternal
    Illusion = effects —>born=temporary
    false = unreal ——>no existence”
    The most basic true phenomenon is known as cause and effect which is base of science.Without cause,there will be no effect.If there is effect,then there has to be a cause and this is the base of science.This same can be explained with words” truth and illusion” which is the used in language of knowledge and the previous is used in language of science.
    • Definition of truth which helps to know true entities.
    • True phenomenon which helps to prove true entities.
    • Here true phenomenon means cause — > effect = truth —> illusion
    • CAUSE are of three types Material,efficient (god) and effective(soul)
    • Effects are also of 3 types material effect but efficient and effective effect looks same as they are motion.
    • The sign of life or live entity is motion. Entities which are considered live are of 2 types that is soul and God .
    • So Effects are also of 3 types material effect but efficient and effective effect looks same as they are motion.


    Now adharniya Mr SAM ji, I would like to remind you again what is your version OF ‘TRUTH’ .

    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Thank you for your view, but it is still difficult to understand what you are trying to convey vedaasthuthi.
    How did you arrive to "cause — > effect = truth —> illusion" from
    "truth=cause=real——>unborn=eternal
    Illusion = effects —>born=temporary
    false = unreal ——>no existence"

    The reason for asking you the question on 2 plus 2 equals 4 is because this has as much to do with philosophy as it has to do with reality. Before we speak of truth, at the minimum we must know how do we know what is true and what isnt. If we cannot agree on simple measurable facts such as 2 plus 2 is equal to 4 then our discussions will become ridicule and not an exchange of views. This is important because the philosophy we are raised with relates to questions of our existence and will affect how we live our lives.

    When I asked can truth contradict? I did not get any response from you or Kuldesh which was very strange. Leave religion aside for a moment and imagine if you went to a grocer and purchased 100 Rs of vegetables and the grocer claims you gave him 50 Rs. Can both you and the grocer be true simultaneously? Can truth be relative? I hope you can see a bigger philosophical problem here. If truth is relative, then anything can be true and anything can be false. If truth is relative how can you claim "Without cause,there will be no effect"? How will you even know the cause? or even the effect?

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    sam, world
    Tuesday, October 07, 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Can you elaborate your response vedaasthuthi.

    kuldesh, bangalore wrote "there are numerous paths(religions) to reach god" to which I replied "various paths cannot lead to the same truth" to which he replied "then you have completely mistaken". The responses thereafter have gone on Stonehenge :)

    So let me ask you the same question.
    - Do you believe religions worldwide make truth claims?
    - Can truth contradict?
    - Do you believe God is truth?
    - Can God contradict?
    The above reply is from you rite??
    dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    @sam
    Now sam we will see how you started when you used the word TRUTH in this article!!
    If its in a single thread then it will look better ,lets see how it goes ….
    dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    Dear sam,world
    pranam
    Kindly go through your sentence/claim below and kindly justify your first claim!!

    "which I replied "various paths cannot lead to the same truth"
    Here maths ,algebra,ohms law or any other things cannot be related as you have used these two words 'religion' and 'Truth' coz how do you convince an illiterate person about your claim!!??
    The ball is in your court...
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    @ SAM,
    Now , the same questions to you ...
    What is your stand when you claimed regarding the word 'TRUTH' and about whether 'TRUTH contradicts'?????
    Kindly throw some light how different or how similar it is ??!!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    Dear sam,world
    pranam
    Consider my above post on entities i presented and relate it to the below post, it will clear your query on my view of word 'TRUTH'
    Now take any worldy example(Blacksmith and metal object) and relate it with universe and humans and then u can prove true entities..
    So
    consider case of Universe
    metal object = universe =material effect
    blacksmith = efficient cause
    drought iron = material cause
    motion = efficient effect

    Consider case of humans
    Blacksmith =human body = material effect
    primordial matter or prakriti = material cause
    soul= effective cause
    motion( in body) = effective effect.
    Now any layman can ask about what is cause of cause?
    That is material effects can produce further effects since efficient/effective causes can act on it but causes don’t have further causes because if u want to know cause of cause , then it means u will never find it since u will keep asking cause of cause and hence trying to make cause non-existence/ false. That’s why this proves that the nature of cause is unborn.
    If cause doesn’t exists then how can effects will happen!!
    Effects can produce further effects due to efficient cause and effect and many times for convenience (or ignorantly) we consider material effect as cause for further effects but in reality neither cause is equal to effect nor effect is equal to cause .So conclusion is there are only 3 causes and rest all are effects as mentioned in the start.
    If you present your version then it will be very helpful Mr sam.

    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Tue, Oct 14 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    It is still difficult to understand what you are trying to convey vedaasthuthi. Can you put the equivalence entities in sentences rather than equal signs? When you write "Blacksmith =human body = material effect" do you mean to say 'Blacksmith is a human body and this is a material effect'? If this sentence is conveying what you are trying to say, can you explain it further.

    I do hope you read my comment on contradiction of truth as that has many implications. As I said in my other comment, while we elaborate on truth, at the minimum we need to agree on simple measurable facts. I am not saying "God exists because 2 plus 2 is equal to 4" if this is your concern. The existence of God does not depend on a mathematical equation. But the mathematical equation can exist because of God. Thus I have to question when you mention that "maths algebra,ohms law or any other things cannot be related as you have used these two words 'religion' and 'Truth' ".

    vedaasthuthi, do you believe we live in a universe created by God? If so, then do you not suppose that God's creation can be explained to both the literate and the illiterate alike? From the Christian perspective, all Humans are created in the image of God. This means we Humans inherit attributes that God has e.g. reason, love, intellect, etc. Just as God can love, we too can love, etc. While the degree of proof of God's existence or what is true may differ, both the literate and illiterate can conclude what they wish to believe based on their ability to reason.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Sat, Oct 11 2014

    Dear sam,world
    Pranam,
    The reasoning followed is subject to observation, post-factors not a-prior .
    We first reason about a concept or event and then we use our intuition and observation.This process would make intuition and observation redundant. The point here is that logic which is a formal method and intuition which is personally innate are two different approaches for dealing with different predictions and solutions.
    This is exactly why most people who have never even studied logic or math are still able to recognize intuitively, valid and invalid arguments
    It is experience that comes to the conclusion that what comes out of observation, however illogical and unreasonable it may seem, must be taken at face value i.e the first step in recognizing something as reasonable. Same with instinct.
    Intuition, Observation, Experience, Instinct etc are all valid means to judge whether something is reasonable ie Even if not exactly accurate.
    Again , I am reminding you to elaborate what is that "TRUTH" you mentioned here!!
    Consider below equivalent entities before you elaborate the word,
    “truth=cause=real——>unborn=eternal
    Illusion = effects —>born=temporary
    false = unreal ——>no existence”

    Also , below are the examples
    Many people in world believe that

    - God is just, kind, perfect
    - This life is our first and last life.
    - God is testing us here
    - Based on the marks we obtain in this test, we will go to either Heaven or Hell.
    "Different people are born and nurtured in different religions. But each religion says that only followers of their religion will go to Heaven. Others will go to Hell irrespective of their deeds" .
    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "Intuition, Observation, Experience, Instinct etc are all valid means to judge whether something is reasonable"
    - I am assuming this response was given to me asking you on your other comment "which principle tells that 2X2=4 OR 4X1=4 OR 5-1=4 OR 8/2=4 OR (-2)*(-2)=4 is Unacceptable?" where I asked "The question is why is it acceptable? Why should 2 plus 2, 2 times 2 equal 4? " - Is this correct or was this a response to something else?

    "Consider below equivalent entities before you elaborate the word,
    'truth=cause=real——>unborn=eternal
    Illusion = effects —>born=temporary
    false = unreal ——>no existence' "
    - You have to elaborate on these equations or at least explain them. Last time I asked you if I gave you an equation V = IR, would it make any sense? I don't think you understood my comment. Perhaps you simply believe the equivalence equations you wrote to me. So let me ask you: based on your equivalence entities, would you agree if every "effect" is an "Illusion"? Are there any problems with this equivalence?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    mr sam,

    discussion is not one way but two way.

    first provide justification for your version of truth and also bronze age.the discussion from our side will resume.

    now it is confirmed that you cant provide proof for the things, what you believe.hahahha.

    we dont have conversation with the guys who doesnt stand for what he believe and provide justification for that.

    we only have conversation with the persons who stands for what they believe and also provides justification for that.

    vedaasthuthi and i will answer ur queries only if you first justify your version of truth with proof.
    after that u can ask questions about our versions.

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "discussion is not one way but two way."
    - When I asked questions during my discussion with you, where were the responses?
    - It was you who stated that stone henges(9000bc), pyramds of egypt(4000bc) and provided no answer when I asked "if you can carbon date stones"
    - You did not even answer my question on how will you determine the age of a river (e.g. Sarasvati, Ganga, etc.). Rather you quoted an article "largest harappan stepwell found in kutch " to support the theory that the stepwell was 5000 years old and later did not answer "If you accept this, can you tell me around what year you will arrive when you calculate 5000 years old backwards? Is it 5000 BC or something else?"
    - You prove exactly what you have alleged "we only have conversation with the persons who stands for what they believe and also provides justification for that."
    - If you are pointing fingers, look at yourself first.
    - Lastly the bronze age was mentioned in the article on the Dholavira stepwell. So you should know what or which bronze age the authors of the article spoke about.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    mr sam,

    dont beat arround the bush.

    common man,

    what is your version of truth that you are justifying and give the proof and justification of bronze age existed according to ur theory.

    this is a straight question and we demand only straight answer.

    only after ur answer with justification, we will give our justifications to ur answers.

    dont come with another useless answer without justification to ur own version of TRUTH and also bronze age.

    we expect next reply related to justification of ur version of truth rather than another beating arround the bush vague answer.
    good day,thanks

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    vedaasthuthi ,

    withhold ur answers untill we get convincing answers about his justifications of TRUTH and his justification about bronze age existed.

    discussions should not be one way but two ways.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Sat, Oct 11 2014

    dEAR kULDESH,
    Pranam
    After going through his comments. Any rational person can guess that he has some dogma and he isn't logically coherennt with that dogma. It wasn't difficultt to see the logical pitfalls of his position.
    He knows very well that ,his reply for his claim willl land him exposed here !!
    @joseph Gonsalves,bannur puttur…
    Kindly convince your friend to elaborate the word’TRUTH” which he mentioned(or by you is well appreciative) ,then we will quote about the ignorance mentioned in diff scriptures!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 11 2014

    yes vedaasthi.
    moral of the story:

    dont argue with persons with preconceived notions.

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "He knows very well that ,his reply for his claim willl land him exposed here"
    - :) Exposed to what?

    - Even before we can elaborate the word Truth, we must at least establish some criteria on how we can identify Truth. The question I asked you "Can truth contradict?" will not make any sense if we cannot establish some criteria on certain attributes of Truth. Only then can we see "logically coherent with that dogma" and "logical pitfalls of his position"

    - As regards Mr. Kuldesh, if you too are like him then the discussion will lose its way and one will resort to ridicule. Perhaps that is why you wrote "He knows very well that ,his reply for his claim willl land him exposed here".

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 11 2014


    only a topper in exams in iit,iim etc knows what it feels like to be a topper,the excitement,contentment and the euphoria assosciated with it.

    others can only ask him what it feels to be being a topper.

    even the topper cant explain it convincingly to the guy
    because it has to be achieved and felt.

    just knowing about it by asking opinions with the topper is nothing more than a gasless soda

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 11 2014

    Dear Sam World:

    I quote kuldesh, bangalore comment:

    explain what is "TRUTH"? Unquote.

    PILOT ASKED JESUS AND "WHAT IS TRUTH?!" John 18:38


    BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE NEVER SAY AND PRACTICE THE TRUTH SO THEY WANTED EXPLANATION FOR TRUTH. WHAT IS TRUTH?!

    THE PROPHESY OF PILATE IS ALSO FULFILLED BY kuldesh, bangalore.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Fri, Oct 10 2014

    mr sam,

    you have given your identity as sam, world.

    plz give me the exact definition of the world and also give me its physical description.
    good day,thanks.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Oct 10 2014

    Dear sam world,

    So far you have described truthful convincing logical responses to kuldesh, bangalore & vedaasthuthi, udupi. I appreciate much.

    Kuldesh and Vedaastuthi ‘s arguments are like: we are in a position to cease to listen.

    They have to argue till a person listens to their responses. Once a person ceases to listen to their tale stories and Tolle/Otte / Hole arguments it seems to me we have to cease to listen to them which is futile.

    Jesus Said we have to spread the WORD OF GOD to the wise humans not the fools.
    Jesus Aptly spoke in Gospel which is the below verse:
    I quote Matthew 7:6 “GIVE NOT THAT WHICH IS HOLY UNTO THE DOGS, NEITHER CAST YE YOUR PEARLS BEFORE SWINE, LEST THEY TRAMPLE THEM UNDER THEIR FEET, AND TURN AGAIN AND REND YOU”. Unquote.

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    @Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Isnt it strange, that they wont answer my questions, but will write "he has some dogma and he isn't logically coherennt with that dogma. It wasn't difficultt to see the logical pitfalls of his position."

    Sir thank you for your comment and as Christians we have to follow Christ and must love and pray for those who disagree with us just as Christ loved those who hated him and prayed for both the believers and unbelievers even till his last breath on the cross (Luke 23:34 "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing"). If they seek truth and are honest, God will show them the way.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2014

    mr sam,

    lord krishna loves everyone as are his children.

    he doesnt leave hands of those who oppose him.he just wants them
    to follow the righteous path.

    even kauravas who were against him in kurukshetra war and finally
    killed by the almighty through pandavas, granted them heaven.

    god loves every person as
    every person comes from his lotus feet.
    if any one dislikes him or opposes him,he doesnt
    hate that person but his qualities and tries to bring him to the right path.

    good day thanks.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Oct 10 2014

    Dear sam,world
    which principle tells that 2X2=4 OR 4X1=4 OR 5-1=4 OR 8/2=4 OR (-2)*(-2)=4 is Unacceptable?
    Logic is that we can never generalize some property over a set by considering just a small subset of it.
    And if you reject one reason as a product of mind, the other groups of reasoning are also susceptible to the same rejection.
    If you know something then you know it and if you don't then you don't andNo "validation" is necessary (for obvious reasons).
    FYI:-" My principle is knowledge itself”!!
    Now ,This should settle it once and for all on your “2*2=4 theory” and don't forget to state about ‘TRUTH’ mentioned by you , no more beating around the bush and circular reasoning.
    Kindly go through my previous post,which will help you to elaborate the word “TrutH” claimed by you!!
    WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY
    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Oct 10 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    "which principle tells that 2X2=4 OR 4X1=4 OR 5-1=4 OR 8/2=4 OR (-2)*(-2)=4 is Unacceptable?"
    - The question is why is it acceptable? Why should 2 plus 2, 2 times 2 equal 4?

    "Logic is that we can never generalize some property over a set by considering just a small subset of it."
    - I agree. There are many more such cases observed in Nature and I simply picked one. The question relates to honestly seeking Truth! As I said in my other comment, this will be a long discussion.

    "If you know something then you know it and if you don't then you don't andNo "validation" is necessary (for obvious reasons)"
    - "No 'validation' is necessary"? If a person had cancer and you did not know, would you say cancer did not exist?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Fri, Oct 10 2014

    mr sam,

    you are still escaping from answering your own version of "TRUTH" which you claim in each of your arguments.why?are u fearful that you will be exposed.

    explain what is "TRUTH"?
    how can you explain that your version is the only truth and others version is false.

    2:u hav still not given justification to the bronze age which in your quote existed with proof.

    asking questions is not the only job
    of a truth seeker.he has to provide answers to those things he justifies as TRUTH.

    a small incident involviong lord buddha:

    when lord buddha after attaining enlightenment,one guy came to him and asked him.
    plz tell me and what is enlightenment?

    buddha smiled and said:

    those who attain enlightenment can only feel what is enlightenment.it can not be told rather only felt by those who achieved it.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    in mahabharatha arjuna asks lord krishna various questions
    about life,its goal its futility,heaven and hell concepts,duty of man in this material world etc.

    lord krishna answers his every question convincingly and what god expects a man.

    actually arjuna is just a medium.infact lord krishna answers all the doubts of a man(arjuna asks questions similar to which you asked to lord krishna) through arjuna.

    if you go thru mahabharath epic book, mainly the lord krishnas upadesha to arjuna, you will get all the answers you asked for.

    its definetly not possible for me to write here within 3000 charecters else you can buy br chopra mahabharath serial cd's or rent it.there are 50 cd's in that box.but there is one cd(44th or 45th) in which arjuna asks questions(similar to what you asked) to lord krishna and lord krishna answers them convincingly and eloberatly.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    dear sam,

    as i already said,first you have to give justification to your theory that bronze age exists.

    we need to see what type of justification is accepted to you by our side by analysing your justification w.r.t bronze age.

    so first give justification to your theory that bronze age exists.
    thanks.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    Sir, I did not ask you about "financial capacity,comfort level and availability of mode of transport" or "a guy with a true intent"

    I asked you:
    1. If you never saw Bangalore (Heaven) in your life, how will you know that you are going in the correct direction?
    2. How do you know if your driver has been to Bangalore (Heaven) before?

    Do you understand the question?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    give me the proof that bronze age existed as per your own quotes.why are you hesitating to reply?
    i want the justification with proof.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "dont expose yourself by writing silly comedy arguments."
    "sam,first give the proof that bronze age exists.it may be pure fiction naaaaaa.hahahaha"
    "quality of your comments suggests me that you may be a school going child or a teen.
    history is not your cup of tea my child.
    study well and make your parents and country proud."

    Now this discussion is becoming silly. You quote Stonehenge existing around 9000 BC, but will not answer if you can carbon date stones? Then you want me to give proof that bronze age exists, but cannot show how "raja vikramaditya ruled during 9000bc"? Next you say "quality of your comments suggests me that you may be a school going child or a teen"!!!

    Sir, rather than ridicule, do some reading rather than believe fables.

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    Dear sam,world
    pranam
    //A good question. This will become a very long discussion, so let me ask you - Can 2 2 be greater or lesser than 4? Why not? How do we know something is true or false? and how do we verify it?//

    - You have made a claim about the word ‘TRUTH’and I have mentioned few example asking you is it what you are referring as ‘truth’ tat every religion claims. Circular reasoning/self-reference are all paradoxes that begs the question.In other word's,they require independent evidence for it's support.So where's your evidence but you are also using reason is not evidence.
    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Madam, let me ask you once again: Can 2 plus 2 be greater or lesser than 4? Why not? How do we know something is true or false? and how do we verify it?

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Oct 10 2014

    Dear sam,world
    which principle tells that 2X2=4 OR 4X1=4 OR 5-1=4 OR 8/2=4 OR (-2)*(-2)=4 is Unacceptable?
    Logic is that we can never generalize some property over a set by considering just a small subset of it.
    And if you reject one reason as a product of mind, the other groups of reasoning are also susceptible to the same rejection.
    If you know something then you know it and if you don't then you don't andNo "validation" is necessary (for obvious reasons).
    FYI:-" My principle is knowledge itself”!!
    Now ,This should settle it once and for all on your “2*2=4 theory” and don't forget to state about ‘TRUTH’ mentioned by you , no more beating around the bush and circular reasoning.
    Kindly go through my previous post,which will help you to elaborate the word “TrutH” claimed by you!!
    WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY
    Dhanyavad

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    dear sam,

    vedaasthuthi and i will clear your all doubts.

    before that:

    first you have to convince us
    with proof of your own quotes.

    sam

    quote:
    "this is a great discovery for India.
    But before you get confused thinking this is
    beyond 4000 BC. Did you also read that the Dholavira
    stepwell dates to the Bronze age. Do you know the when
    the Bronze Age occurred?"
    unquote

    you have mentioned stepwell dates back to bronze age.plz convince us
    that bronze age existed with proof?

    then we will solve all your doubts,but first you have to give us a
    convincing reply about your justification of bronze age.

    only after you convince us,then you will get our reply to your doubts.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    You accept the stepwell existed 5000 years ago but will not answer "If you accept this, can you tell me around what year you will arrive when you calculate 5000 years old backwards? Is it 5000 BC or something else?"

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    Dear Sam ,world
    Pranam

    -So let me ask you the same question.

    - Do you believe religions worldwide make truth claims?
    - Can truth contradict?
    - Do you believe God is truth?
    - Can God contradict?
    Again , kindly go through my post !!
    Mentioned few simple examples of religions making such claims, This is because you have to elaborate word ‘TRUTH’ used by you here and what is that truth every religion preaches?
    Then we will present our stand on ‘ TRUTH’
    kuldesh, bangalore wrote "there are numerous paths(religions) to reach god" to which I replied "various paths cannot lead to the same truth" to which he replied "then you have completely mistaken". The responses thereafter have gone on Stonehenge :)-
    If I am not wrong Mr Kuldesh mentioned that every(good)path will lead to alimighty/god and for this humans need develop these good qualities( peace,brotherhood,compassion,humanity etc ).
    And word ‘PATH’ need not be considered as religion here!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    Vedic people should learn to define truth and defn of truth also which simplifies to know true entities.
    truth=cause=real——>unborn=eternal
    Illusion = effects —>born=temporary
    false = unreal ——>no existence
    "Truth doesn't need to defend itself"

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Oct 09 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Can you elaborate the above statements? If I gave you an equation V equals IR, would it make any sense?

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  • sam, world

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    You wrote to me "Mentioned few simple examples of religions making such claims". Is the referring to the comment you wrote to me below?

    "Different people are born and nurtured in different religions. But each religion says that only followers of their religion will go to Heaven. Others will go to Hell irrespective of their deeds" .

    I asked you a few questions e.g. "Do you believe religions worldwide make truth claims?" and unless you answer them, it becomes difficult to converse and we will keep jumping from one topic to another.

    -

    "This is because you have to elaborate word ‘TRUTH’ used by you here and what is that truth every religion preaches?"

    A good question. This will become a very long discussion, so let me ask you - Can 2 2 be greater or lesser than 4? Why not? How do we know something is true or false? and how do we verify it?

    -

    "If I am not wrong Mr Kuldesh mentioned that every(good)path will lead to alimighty/god"

    Let me ask you here what is a good path? Good compared to what?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    western source regarding
    saraswati river:

    QUOTE

    "the identification of the Vedic Sarasvati River with the Ghaggar-Hakra River was accepted by most of scholars already in the 19th and early 20th century, including Christian Lassen, Max Müller, Marc Aurel Stein, C.F. Oldham and Jane Macintosh.

    According to proto-historian Michel Danino, in ancient times a mature river flowed into the Ghaghar-Hakra valley and into the Rann of Kutch, which he identifies as the Rig Vedic Sarasvati river."
    UNQUOTE

    satisfied.lolz

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  • sam, world

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    Your response only mentions that scholars accept that the river existed.

    Sir, my question to you was "How can you be sure that the river Sarasvati dried up around 5000 BC (or earlier)? How will you date a river? Do you know when the Ganga was formed?"

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    hahahaha.
    dont expose yourself by writing silly comedy arguments.
    take rest.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    sam,first give the proof that bronze age exists.it may be pure fiction naaaaaa.hahahaha

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    dear sam,

    quality of your comments suggests me that you may be a school going child or a teen.
    history is not your cup of tea my child.
    study well and make your parents and country proud.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    mr sam,

    today in one of the leading bangalore english daily,
    there is a article titled:

    "largest harappan stepwell found in kutch "

    few excerpts from it:

    QUOTE:
    "a 5000 year old stepwell has been found in one of the largest harappan cia in kutch.it is cities,dholavira in kutch.it is said to be 3 times bigger than great bath of mohenjadaro.
    eservoir of dholavira by archeologocal survey of india,the site represents the largest,grandest and the best furnished ancient reservoir found in the country.

    experts will investigate the advanced huydaraulic engineering used by harappans to build stepwell"
    UNQUOTE

    what more proof you require or even after seeing naked proof you wann call it fiction:).
    good day,thanks

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  • sam, world

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "a 5000 year old stepwell has been found in one of the largest harappan cia in kutch"

    This is a great discovery for India. But before you get confused thinking this is beyond 4000 BC. Did you also read that the Dholavira stepwell dates to the Bronze age. Do you know the when the Bronze Age occurred?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    hahaha ,
    you need a brief course in history topic.your argument shows you dont have any research experience when it comes to indian history or world history in general.

    for knowing history,you should have a open mind.
    but you are here with preconceived notions and hellbent in supporting your theory without any proof.

    you dont have any proof for your argument and blindly denying others theory presented with proof.

    i dont have a habbit of
    arguing with people with preconcieved notion as i dont want to waste my valuable time.plz go to dholavira and check it.

    if i accept or deny or you accept or deny
    history doesnt change
    period.
    bye

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    there is no such thing as bronze age,siver age,golden age,diamond age and platinum age.

    what do you mean by bronze age?where we get lots of bronze?lolz


    bronze age is a term ,western historians gave to phases of vedic era.

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  • sam, world

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "there is no such thing as bronze age,siver age,golden age,diamond age and platinum age."

    So you do not want to believe there is bronze age, etc. Then why would you then say "stone henges(9000bc human made carbon dating)"? Hence I asked you can you carbon date stones? To which you say that your facts are "from vedic scriptures and metallic pottery with swastika symbol" You say I have preconceived notions - Really? How do you date a metallic pottery?

    I hope you read the article "largest harappan stepwell found in kutch " correctly. You said "a 5000 year old stepwell has been found in one of the largest harappan cia in kutch". If you accept this, can you tell me around what year you will arrive when you calculate 5000 years old backwards? Is it 5000 BC or something else?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    i do not believe in bronze age.
    give me the proof.it may be a fiction.hahaha

    every age is the phases of vedic era.stone henge is also constucted during the phases of vedic era.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    Jesus asked men around Him who were accusing him who can convict me of sin
    John 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

    So where is the truth. A sinless and faultless person only can bear the sins of the whole world. A sinner cannot bear the sins of the whole world because he himself is in sin how can he bear others sin.

    All other religious humans are following their own religion. Christians are following the faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is the universal God of all.

    There are no gods and goddesses in Christianity. The followers of Christ are called Christians. Jesus never made a religion and we Christians believe only in the faith in Him.
    Jesus is the way, truth and the life (John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me).
    No human on this earth lived without sin except Jesus Christ who came down from heaven. (John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath I am from above: ye are of this world I am not of this world).

    The one who is faultless and sinless can only preach the good news and glad tidings to human being and that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ who was and who is and who is to come again.
    Revelations 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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  • sam, world

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "...with fact that raja vikramaditya may have built this stonehenges"
    Sir, we have to separate fact from fiction. Is there an existing historical record of any human prior to 4000 BC? At best one can say Raja Vikramaditya lived around 102 BC - 15 AD.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    origin of vedas:

    source:
    "There is confusion about the beginning of Vedic era. Sometimes it is indicated to be around 1500 BC, but that seems quite late and illogical according to Vedic references and archaeology.

    For example, in several Vedic hymns dedicated to river Sarasvati, she is described to be actually flowing and existent. But in reality river Sarasvati does not exist anymore, because, according to archaeological research, it dried up and disappeared in north Indian sands several thousand years ago, around 5000 BC (or earlier).

    In any case, Vedas (and the corresponding Hindu religion) must at least be as old as the last time river Sarasvati actually existed (flowed) in India because that is how it was described in the Vedas - alive and active. Therefore, considering the following hymns on river Sarasvati (which show it still very alive and active 5000 BC according to archaeological findings), Vedas may be assumed to exist at least since 5000 BC (7000 years ago)."

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  • sam, world

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "But in reality river Sarasvati does not exist anymore, because, according to archaeological research, it dried up and disappeared in north Indian sands several thousand years ago, around 5000 BC (or earlier)"

    How can you be sure that the river Sarasvati dried up around 5000 BC (or earlier)? How will you date a river? Do you know when the Ganga was formed?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    dear bro sam,

    quote

    "Raja Vikramaditya lived around 102 BC - 15 AD"unquote

    how will you justify this wikepedia information mr sam?

    wikipedia should give proof.
    wikipedia has stopped its buisness with no dynamic updation bcoz of its unreliable data .do you know this?

    i have given proof of humans existed before 4000bc
    like

    stone henges(9000bc human made carbon dating)
    and pyramds of egypt(4000bc human made carbon dating).

    there may be numerous others proofs.what more proofs u want other than these standing proofs?or else i think you will even call pyramids of egypt,stonehenges a fiction,formed by itself and not human made.
    thanks.

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  • sam, world

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "how will you justify this wikepedia information mr sam?"

    Do you have a reliable historical record for when Raja Vikramaditya lived? Can you determine them from stone formations?

    -

    "i have given proof of humans existed before 4000bc"

    Really? and the proof is formation of rocks?

    -

    "stone henges(9000bc human made carbon dating)
    and pyramds of egypt(4000bc human made carbon dating)."

    Can you carbon date stones?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    hello sam,sam sam,

    its not from stones from stone henge, i am giving you the facts dude but from vedic scriptures and metallic pottery with swastika symbol and it has been clearly mentioned in recovered scriptures that raja vikaramidtya was the emperor during this time and he created the stone henge scripture according to the mandala design of vedic philosophy and is written in sanskrit language.

    thats why even westerners are accepting that the sankrit language is the mother of all languages including european languages.
    lolz

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  • vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    Dear sam, world
    Namasthey,
    All religions believe in certain truth claims -

    Below are few examples for your above quote

    Many people in world believe that

    - God is just, kind, perfect
    - This life is our first and last life.
    - God is testing us here
    - Based on the marks we obtain in this test, we will go to either Heaven or Hell.
    Also ,

    "Different people are born and nurtured in different religions. But each religion says that only followers of their religion will go to Heaven. Others will go to Hell irrespective of their deeds" .

    Sir ,Is this what you wanted to convey here ?..,are you researching in comparative religion?
    Dhanyavad

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  • sam, world

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    @vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Can you elaborate your response vedaasthuthi.

    kuldesh, bangalore wrote "there are numerous paths(religions) to reach god" to which I replied "various paths cannot lead to the same truth" to which he replied "then you have completely mistaken". The responses thereafter have gone on Stonehenge :)

    So let me ask you the same question.
    - Do you believe religions worldwide make truth claims?
    - Can truth contradict?
    - Do you believe God is truth?
    - Can God contradict?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    mr sam,i thought u r a intelligent person,but i need to eloberate it to you.ok.

    if we want to go to bangalore from udipi there following ways:

    1:thru balebare route
    2:thru agumbe route
    3:thru mangalore-hassan route


    all the 3 ways reach bangalore only but the path of reaching bangalore is different.but the destination is the same.

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  • sam, world

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    I like your answer. It made me smile - thank you.

    Let me illustrate one problem - you have 3 ways to reach Bangalore, but to go there you have to chose a method of transportation.
    1. If you never saw Bangalore (Heaven) in your life, how will you know that you are going in the correct direction?
    2. How do you know if your driver has been to Bangalore (Heaven) before?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    conscience and intent is important my child.

    a rich person does number of good deeds with his earned money.

    a poor person within his limited resources also does good deeds though in a small manner.


    here the intent of both is important and not the amount of money they spent.

    if your intent is going to bangalore,you will go.

    mode of transport depends on his financial capacity,comfort level and availability of mode of transport.
    a guy with a true intent will reach destination even in barefoot.

    a guy who is careless about his destination has also the option of getting down in between or doesnt go at all or may catch the wrong bus.

    suggestion:

    do good deeds in life, look after your parents and family and be a useful and responsible person in society.that will take you to your desired destination otherwise nothing will take you to your destination.

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    Sir, I wrote "various paths cannot lead to the same truth" to which you replied "then you have completely mistaken"

    I do not think you understood my comment. Truth does not contradict. Every religion claims to be the right one. If that is true, then truth becomes relative - Do you accept this and do you understand this?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    i just wanted to convey:

    if any religion talks of peace,brotherhood,compassion,humanity etc even though the name of the path is different ,it leads to same god.
    good day,thanks.

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  • sam, world

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    Sir, peace,brotherhood,compassion,humanity etc are all good qualities that humans beings should have and strive for.

    All religions believe in certain truth claims - do you know this and do you understand this. If so, can you tell me if truth can contradict or if truth can be relative?

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "sanaathana dharma is the world first organised relegion with history of 20000 years"
    - Very questionable. How can you be certain that it is 20,000 year old?

    "there are various proof of it like stonehenges in akraim russia and stonehenges of england ... "
    - This is mixing fiction with facts. An arrangement of stones do not imply the people practiced sanaathana dharma/Hinduism.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    how can anything physical standing in the world like stonehenges for which all types of tests including carbon dating and unearthing of metals and scriptures be fiction?it has been dated to 9000 bc by western archeaologists.stone henges are formed by vedic methods in ancient eras to connect with the cosmos.its nothing but mandalas in the physical form.

    i m not here to prove anything.
    my intention here is to convey that all religion lead to the same god.thats all.
    good day,thanks.

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  • sam, world

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    Sir, this reasoning is very incorrect - just because you have an arrangement of stones, it does not imply Vedic methods were involved. By this reasoning one may even state that arrangement of teeth is Vedic! Facts must be separated from fiction.

    You say "all religion lead to the same god", then can you answer me - do you believe God is truth? If God is truth, can truth contradict and can truth be relative?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Tue, Oct 07 2014

    vedic scriptures and hindu symbols were recovered and it has been prove that the formation of stonehenges was done according to the formation of mandalas.indians are not justifying this.we dont even knew it.western archeologists have carried out intense research and then came out with fact that raja vikramaditya may have built this stonehenges.before that we knew raja vikramaditya ruled during 9000bc.
    i am not talking about stones but the scriptures and the sacred metallic swastika symbols recovered and the mandala formation used to construct stonehenges.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    CORRECTED MESSAGE NOW:COCKROACH IS NOT A COMMUNAL HUMAN CAN SPEAK COMMUNAL.

    (BEFORE:COCKROACH IS NOT A COMMUNAL NOR A HUMAN?

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Dear RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore,

    Are you knowing cockroach language?!
    Or is there any cockroach language in this earth?!

    EVEN FOOLS DON'T SPEAK COCKROACH LANGUAGE.

    HUMANS ONLY CAN SPEAK THE LANGUAGES OF THIS EARTH DUMB CANNOT SPEAK.

    Some times dumb and deaf cannot speak.

    OUT OF THIS THERE ARE COMMUNALS SPEAK ONLY COMMUNAL MATTERS.

    COCKROACH IS NOT A COMMUNAL NOR A HUMAN.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Dear j.anata, Mangaluru / Bengaluru,

    I don't want to proclaim my nationality like you fundoos beat your chests and proclaim.

    Confirm your self first are you from Andamaan?!

    Dear RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore,

    The BJP is a big SHOW BIZZ prior to and from now then.

    Previously under bjp India was shining and now Swatch Bharath in dirtiness under chaaiwaala.

    First they should clean their communal mind including yourself.

    They Should clean their own houses first and surrounding prior to cleaning the streets.

    SEE THE DAIJIWORLD VIDEO ONCE AGAIN AND KNOW WHAT IS IN THE VIDEO.

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  • s.rai, kudala

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Forget all these controversies ,my friends HAPPY DUSSERA and EID MUBARAK. Lets all live happily as citizens of this great country and be good to each other ,live peacefully ,religions are there to just show us the right path ,rest all are preaching the same thing ultimately its god,in whatever form.We are all ONE,IN IDENTITY, that is in our INDIANESS.

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  • Ram Shetty, Mangalore/Mumbai

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Why this cockroach is talking on behalf of all indian national, spoiling our peace of mind by giving talks?

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Ram Shetty, Mangalore/Mumbai

    Because you understand cockroach language..

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  • Krishna Kant, Mangalore/Moodbidri

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    here you go another roach speaks out.. why do't you correct your name. rip sorry rsrb?

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  • Kamath, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Perhaps, 99% of Indians never heard or know what is meant by Fascism, but welcome to new face of RSS Hindu Taliban.
    Some day sooner than later Will regret arrival of these black capped black-guards!

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Kamath, Mangalore

    Choice is yours...
    Otherwise face real Taliban in few years...
    When there is strong acid, we require strong alkali also to neutralise...
    You never ask why there was concentrated acid, wbut when alkali is being prepared, you are scared...!!

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  • Societal Web, Dubai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    We uphold the religion we are born to. Fortunately or unfortunately Mr. B is born in a Hindu family. There is no point in saying one's religion is the right one. We all need to look at it from a humanitarian view and improve ourselves. Nobody has met God yet, fortunately !! So let us behave like ordinary human beings and take care of our dependents and talk about the general welfare. I am a Christian. When I was little, I used to like the Hindu festivals like Chawthi, Ashtami etc., but now I don't have that much of emotional attachment to these because I see Hindus and Christians and Muslims, based on their religion have become senseless and have sown the seeds of hatred amongst us. It is sad though but true. We used to run behind the Dussehra Veshas, but not I am a little not so excited when I see them. This kind of a hatred among religions is only causing unnecessary problems. I read the comments on these articles and see how each one is trying justify against the other, but to what end? Why don't we just be friends?

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    This time too BJP is trying to split votes on religion.
    BJP SHOULD NOW CONCENTRATE ON MINIMUM FEKUGIRI AND MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT…

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Kuldesh,
    Well said, there is no change in almighty & so is the truth.
    Due to Mogul & British invasion and their rule of Hindustan over couple of centuries we must accept the fact that definitely there is an undeniable possibility of ARYAN DNA is still running not only in Hindustani's blood but also complexion. This very historic truth, caused section of Hindustani's to morph the history out of utter guilt & shame (but as you rightly said it truth prevails for ever).
    If we still go deep & analyze a real hindu DNA, it should reflect "tolerance - Ahimsa paramo Dharma", but the present day defenders of Hinduism exhibit intolerance/revenge/hatred etc., give us a doubt as to..., whether the so called Hinduism defenders inherit a real Hindu DNA.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    defending ones own religion is our right.there is no wrong in it,infact it is our right.but we should not interfere in others religion.

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Te Chaddi Brigade can build Hindutva Kingdom in Atlantic or Pacific Ocean. Because as suggested by me earlier Mars is also occupied by Americans. They have sent probe to Mars 50 years ago and landed their couple of Robots there. If Chaddi Brigade tries to build Caliphate in India then we may become target of Americans like ISIS and Alqaida. Ganesh Bangalore-You can have Lungi Dance in the middle of Ocean. You have nowhere to go.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Ajith, Mangalore

    Finally you gave the answer which I wanted...
    Hindus reading this now realise the intent of minorities...

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  • abhyankar, mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    whats wrong when someone talk about hinduism? what is the meaning of hiduism? is it a crime if we talk about hinduism? replace hinduism word and put any other religion's word that time the sentence that time no one has problem with the sentence , why with this word hinduism.

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @RSRB...
    I am not against any religion...Who cares about religion...You may think hindutva is the sole solution ...there are whole lot of other people who are in majority who doesnt believe in it ...Same way other community believe that theirs is the solution for the nation would you people accept it...India was ruled by hindus, buddhists,muslims , sikhs and christians...so every religion claims their stake in the country if we go far past...Finally we lead into cave age...It is time to move forward...look at the pakistan..it has now understood its past mistake...before 1947 the region was abode of sufism there was no difference between sikhs,muslims or hindus ...Now the whole pakistan is changed...It is now trying hard to get from the mistake it had made...I think it has now understood..If India follows the same step...now you may claim it will be peaceful...But it cant be said in future whenever any fanaticism raises....It not easy to be just controlled by speeches...We know our country is not new to fanaticism...If you go by your logic then we cant expect peaceful india riots,terrorism may infact rise cause there are lot of reasons and lot of alienation from mainstream...What next of religion it is like opening tinderbox then comes language...like how bangla and pak separated..We in south asia have same mentality irrespective of creed...at that time religion doesnt matter then comes language pride..Eventually we will be breaking India into pieces.....!!!Mark my words....

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Manu, mangalore

    Your advise is appreciated and very much needed in Jammu & Kashmir.....

    As you commented, majority feels other wsy, then why Kashmir is suffering from 60 years???

    Also your advise is required to Congress who successfully divided Hindus into castes.

    Hindutwa now will ensure there is no caste bar by uniting Hindus. Then you can assure 85% of Indians are united. Rest 15% will anyway join later. Thus country gets united. Otherwise, the country has no future... Hope you too mark my words...

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Dear RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore,

    Since 60 years the opposition was only blowing in the mouth and watching the dirt and now suddenly got up from the deep slumber?!

    Chaaiwaala’s Gujarat itself is unclean and garbage too much. And the cleaning of Swatch Bharat was exposed by daijiworld video. See daijiworld video.

    CHAAIWAALA’S SHOW BIZZ AND BIG DRAAMA OF BJP’S FOR A DAY.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    You wished bad for cleanliness drive, just because it is by Modi.
    But Modi himself supports few drives initiated by Congress as a true son of Mother India...
    See the difference between your and his attitude....
    Judge yourself...

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  • j.anata, Mangaluru / Bengaluru

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Are you an Indian or a foreigner?

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  • Ranjith, Udupi

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Best is for people to read about "Indo Aryan migration" on wikipedia and know about the migratory history of the Hinduism..

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    and also go through in google:

    "aryan invasion theory debunked"

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  • Ranjith, udupi

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Just to let you know, unlike elephant or cobra, the horse is not a native animal of the sub-continent, and in the rig-veda where references to chariots with horses have been made, one has to simply conclude that the "chariot and horse" came with the nomadic central asian tribes that settled in area west of the hindukush mountain range in afghanistan...

    Also according to Michael Palin .."In fact as far as I can tell the majority of language scholars in the world still believe that the ancestral language of Sanskrit cannot have been born inside the subcontinent but must have come from the outside. Many eminent Sanskritologists believe this is plainly revealed in the earliest layers of the text of the Rig Veda, both in its content and in linguistic borrowings from Dravidian, and in Central Asian language connections. Recent work on ‘Time-depth' linguistics (which tries to reconstruct the branches off the main trunk of language, family trees as judged by language change) has reconstructed the Indo-European family tree in some detail (earliest recorded being Hittite) and in the eyes of most experts the language moved southwards and eastwards into Iran and NW India..."

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  • Ponappa, mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @kuldesh ...aryan invasion theory is debunked by so called "cultural groups" and like minded historians only few handful historians believe in such thing ..most of the archaeological and linguistic and cultural reminants support aryan invasion theory and including majoritarion historians...aryan debunking theory is used by these people to sell the aryanism.... you have every right to follow vedic aryan religion nobody is preventing it but it doesnt make aryan invasion hoax...like invasion from other races later..you people need to accept this..(..no offence here)...If south India and north Indians have come from same ancestors our language would have been same with slight difference...but it is not the case...nor our appearance nor our culture nor our foods nor our dressings...Infact vedic sanskrit and ancient persian or avestan are so closely related...Even the ancient early vedic divinity concept and names matches with the avestan culture...The only ancient long living south Indian language is tamil...Nothing in it is similar to sanskrit...ofcourse it has quite a large number of sanskrit loanwords..similarly sanskrit to borrowed from south Indian languages...
    Dont believe in fairtytale concepts that we all come from single race nor any earlier cultural exchange hasnt taken place...Indians are multi ethnic multi religious...Every major religions has found its way in India including vedic culture

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  • sam, world

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore

    "aryan invasion theory debunked"

    One of the reasons why new Hindus are against the aryan invasion theory (AIT) is because AIT implies Hinduism is not a native religion of India and Indian culture is a synthesis of elements of other ancient cultures.

    Christians believe we are all nations of men of one blood (Acts 17:26). The spreading of people across all continents was part of God's plan to fill the whole world and to enjoy God's creation (See Genesis 1:27-28, 9:1-7, 11:1-9).

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    sanaathana dharma is the world first organised relegion with history of 20000 years.there are various proof of it like stonehenges in akraim russia and stonehenges of england and also numerous vedic sculptures and metallic pottery of the sacred swastika symbol has been recovered.western archeaologists have already done thorough reasearch on this and accepted the truth.if some set of people doesnt accept,it doesnt worry us as truth is truth.period.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Wed, Oct 08 2014

    mr sam,

    "aryan invasion thoery debunked"

    article is written by intense research by western researchers,archeologists and historians and not indian ones.
    if you have doubt pls type this title and see who wrote it.
    good day,thanks

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  • Alwun, Canada

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    Earh belongs to god period. Love , live and die on the earth gifted tous by god. God never labelled neither religion or nations so live happily, freely and forget these idiots of names

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    KRPRABHU, Panditha Ramabai Saraswati (1858-1922) was an outstanding Indian Christian woman. In the 1889 Congress session there were ten Christian delegates of which ...

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    a person should worship god and the path for it is religion.there are numerous paths(religions) to reach god.if we start to worship path rather than god.god will not accept us as we never worshipped him rather the path.this should not be the case with the humans.

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  • sam, world

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @kuldesh, bangalore
    A person must search for truth honestly if he seeks God. Since God is truth and truth does not contradict, the various paths cannot lead to the same truth. For e.g. though Islam and Christianity believe in God, one belief does not accept Jesus as God and another belief accepts Jesus as God - both cannot be true simultaneously.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    "various paths cannot lead to the same truth"????????

    then you have completly mistaken. i am a hindu,but in our religion

    lord krishna in mahabharath said:

    "Yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbhavati bharata
    Abhythanamadharmasya tadatmanam srijamyaham

    Paritranaya sadhunang vinashay cha dushkritam
    Dharmasangsthapanarthay sambhabami yuge yuge"

    english meaning:

    Whenever there is decay of righteousness, O Bharata,
    And there is exaltation of unrighteousness, then I Myself come forth

    For the protection of the good, for the destruction of evil-doers,
    For the sake of firmly
    establishing righteousness, I am born from age to age.

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  • Aubb, Kuwait

    Sun, Oct 05 2014


    Bhagwat is not above the PM, President, and the constitution of India.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Aubb, Kuwait

    Praja Prabhuthva means citizen is King...

    In fact, PM, president etc.. are below all of us, including Bhagwat. However, due respect to be given to every one's position...

    We people (including you and Bhagwat) can even change the constitution (which is already seen many amendments) through our valuable votes...

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  • stan, dubai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Praja Prabhuthva means citizen is King... That's these political and religious people are telling that you King people pay us and we will survive without doing any job( MLA's sleeping, watching Blue films and some of the people like Bhagwat, Mutalib just talking?????

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Problem with you people is you people only believe in certain sect of historians...most of the eminent historians including in India doesn't believe in your story and you blame them as macaulys or commies....You need to accept the bitter pill...
    Indians are not of one race...North east Indians are different from south Indians ...south Indians are different from north Indians....We have different language different facial characters and different culture...accept it ...than blindly believing Every Indians are derived from same race if that was the case we would have been like African people or white race or mongoloid race who had similar characteristics with each other.i.e is not thease in India...Nor hindus are of single race nor Indians for this to happen you need to accept there had been migration to India from ancient past...some culture got dominated over other...Accept this bitter pill...

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    genetics differs everywhere in the world from china to russia to india to africa and also skin color from black to brown to yellow to white and also height tall to medium to short and also strength.but truth and almigthy is only one and that does not change.

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  • Thoras, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    when people speak using concepts it is difficult to understand them. If Bhagvath says that we must leave our vices and arrogance, work for the unity, nobody would object. but in order to say that why he must use the term Hindutva. It shows he has many more hidden agendas that he wants to impose indirectly.
    we have not chosen to born in particular country. but we have the right to choose a particular way of life that which pleases us, that which upholds human values. We may present the way of life that which has pleased us but no one has the right to impose a way of life on others. It is inhuman and against humanity. When the Bible was presented people taged it as conversion. But when Modi presented Bhagavat Geetha to the foreign leaders is it called conversion???

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Thoras, Mangalore

    Hindus do not convert others...
    It is not in their blood...
    But they defend against getting converted..
    That is why Indian forces are never known as "Indian Military Force" but it is known as "Indian Defence Force"

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Dear RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore,

    Hindus are not indulged in conversions

    Why do you lie and blah, blah, blah.....

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  • Aubb, Kuwait

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @Joseph

    You are absolutely right by exposing the myth that Hindus are not involved in conversions, a fact that many Hindus are brain washed to believe.

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  • mahesh, mlr/dxb

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @rsrb,
    Indian defence/military is meant for securing Indians. Don't try to say Indian defence is meant for only chaddi's defence.
    We Hindus dont have to learn naming convention concocted by you.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    mahesh, mlr/dxb

    You do not understand what is example and what is statement...
    Feel pity on you...
    I think you are the one which did not understand when Modi made "puppy" remark as an example....

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @RSRB,
    What will we get if India becomes Hindu rashtra any goodies....India is known around the world as multicultural,multilingual and multi-religious society...when you claim your cultural ideology is dominating force then that moment India looses its respects and will be grouped among nations like pakistan or saudi or Israel or other fanatic nations...
    Secondly you may need to vacate Singapore coz it is sickular country which you hate the most

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Manu, mangalore

    You are going extreme, which no Hindus can go...
    When a community taken away Pakistan, it is Hindus accommodated all and d it as secular country, with all good heart they have...

    But their good heart is being misused and cows are being stolen regularly. Their daughters are being used for Jihad. Rampant conversion by wrongly highlighting caste system. I am not surprised, a great culture an humanity ends finally.

    Minorities should be like Jain, Boudhdha, Farsi, Sikh,... Hindus do not feel disturbed by them... Others need to learn how to behave befoe Hindus feel threat...

    Now to answer your question.. after India beomes Hindu nation, there is no time for anyone to conspire against religion. No community clashes.

    India was having good name about multireligious country, but due to conspiracy of few it is loosing its name. As long as Hindutwa rules, all can be happy and no need to teach Hindus how to take care of other religions...

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @RSRB...
    I am not against any religion...Who cares about religion...You may think hindutva is the sole solution ...there are whole lot of other people who are in majority who doesnt believe in it ...Same way other community believe that theirs is the solution for the nation would you people accept it...India was ruled by hindus, buddhists,muslims , sikhs and christians...so every religion claims their stake in the country if we go far past...Finally we lead into cave age...It is time to move forward...look at the pakistan..it has now understood its past mistake...before 1947 the region was abode of sufism there was no difference between sikhs,muslims or hindus ...Now the whole pakistan is changed...It is now trying hard to get from the mistake it had made...I think it has now understood..If India follows the same step...now you may claim it will be peaceful...But it cant be said in future whenever any fanaticism raises....It not easy to be just controlled by speeches...We know our country is not new to fanaticism...If you go by your logic then we cant expect peaceful india riots,terrorism may infact rise cause there are lot of reasons and lot of alienation from mainstream...What next of religion it is like opening tinderbox then comes language...like how bangla and pak separated..We in south asia have same mentality irrespective of creed...at that time religion doesnt matter then comes language pride..Eventually we will be breaking India into pieces.....!!!Mark my words....

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  • Doomsknight, Mangalore/Dubai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Every action there is a reaction from RSRB.

    It looks like most of the time this person spends on commenting daijiworld, looks like no other work. What a pity!!!!

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Doomsknight, Mangalore/Dubai

    If you think most Indians are careless about "slow poison", at least few Indians are honorarily dedicated to defend Hinduism.

    I do not want the minorities in India to get the blame for finishing Hinduism.

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  • Ganesh, Bengaluru

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Doomakethu,

    If you don't have any problems to 3 J's stupid comments why you got now only this problem to RSRB comments. Atleast he is trying to tell the truth to pseudo seculars & blind followers.
    Mirchi Laaga shayad??

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  • Bala S, Bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    If Hinduism originated in present day India, then how come we have a mountain range called Hindukush in Afghanistan? How come the Indus valley and Mohenjadaro / Harapa dynasties are in Pakistan and not in South India? So my point is, most Indians are not actually hindu, or muslim or christian..our ancestors were all animist followers, which even dates back earlier to aryanism/dravidianism...Mohan Bhagwat, Modi or myself were all converts (i mean our ancestors)

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    your comments oozes ignorance and limited knowledge of the history and hence dont deserve a response.

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  • Bala S, Bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Ok. maybe i have limited knowledge unlike you...so enlighten us, or will you choose to back out, because you don't have actual proof?

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  • Antony Fernandes, Mangalore/USA

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Kuldesh, Bangalore

    You only have Google knowledge, you don't know the reality. Else you are a dumb fanatic Hindu.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Mon, Oct 06 2014

    mr antony,

    u have the knowledge from akaashvani it seems.knowledge is attained thru consistent research of the history and not accepting anything without proof even it is my own religion.thats the only way for attaining the truth.i have mentioned google as it cant be explained in this forum with less than 3000 charecters.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Bala S, Bangalore

    Finally in the seious discussions, we need a break to laugh. Thanks for your joke..

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    May be once exhausted or exposed, some times it is good defend self by a good laugh.
    Some organizations trying to erase Aryan historic relevance in Hindustan. Nobody can deny the Mogul invasion, maybe Akhanda bharat include today's Afghanistan also.

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  • TRaghu Pai, Bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Bala S, Bangalore

    Most stupid comment, seems you are one of those JNU graduated Macauley bhakt as Aryan invasion theory is fake and conspiracy to divide Hindus.

    Your next question should be how come world's largest temple complex Angkor Vat is at Laos Cambodia border and not in India?

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  • Bala S, Bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    RaghuPai

    No sir, I am not from JNU, but you must be an expert of hindu history as written by M S Golwalkar..)

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  • Vantage Point, mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    RSS is selling religion under disguise of their so called nationalism...The believe only those who believe in hindutva can be nationalist they doubt patriotism of othet people who doesnt believe in hindutva this is the benchmark of RSS religious derived so called nationalism formulated from its guruji echoed by millions of cadres across the nation...If you want to be nationalist according to RSS submit to hindutva...
    RSS should know that vedic culture is also a migrant religion not a homegrown one ....earliest Inscription of India both Indus valley and bhimbetka caves doesnt point to any religion nor vedic hindutva religion

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Hindu refers to an identity associated with the philosophical, religious and cultural systems that are indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. As used in the Constitution of India, the word "Hindu" is attributed to all persons professing any Indian religion (i.e. Christian, Muslim Hindu, Jain, Parsee,Buddhism or Sikhism).

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    ewvenN Supreme Court feels that BJP Cannot clean Ganga in 200 YEARS...

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    60 years dirty equal to 200 years cleaning....

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Archbishop Desmond Tutu:

    "The God who existed before any religion counts on you to make the oneness of the human family known and celebrated"

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Hindus are around 100 crores in the world....
    But there is not even single country based on Hindutwa....
    If not in India, is it possible to implement it in Saudi or Italy?

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    You can try to build one in Mars.

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  • Ganesh, Bengaluru

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    This shows your Lungi mentality.
    Grow up man

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Ajith, Mangalore

    Mars is Mangala...
    So, as per your wish, we start it from Mangalapura.. I mean Mangalore...:-)

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    NO ajith if good people settle in MARS then pseudo secularits will distroy this earth with their dirty secular tricks..so we have to stay here only..

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  • ad, mangloor

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Hindustan, hindu desha, these two words identify hindus. Hinduism itself is not a religion but a way of life. on the other hand Hindutwa itself has a different meaning in terms of Bhagwats ideology. Being a hindu dominated nation in terms of population size hindustan, bharat is very much a secular nation not today but ever since India or greater Bharat including Afghanistan existed. Muslims Christians and others co-Existed all along.
    Hindutva on there other hand in my mind is very much Communalism minded. This communal mentality, a dividing mentality of Bhagwat has no place in todays Hindustan.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    ad, mangloor

    You mean Hindus should have asked for a seperate country in 1947?

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  • kuldakuldi, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    your comment is laughable.
    your comment is like:

    ulta chor kothwal ko daante

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  • Lawrence, USA

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    He is right. In previous centuries the access to Vedas were limited to only the Brahmins. So as Bible. It was limited to only Clergies.

    No one owns Vedas or Bible now-a-days. It is open to all to read and follow. What more dangerous is that people misinterpret these holy versus and use it for their own agenda. Mohan Bhagwat doesn't own Hindutva and he cannot impose it on others. Forcible conversion is against the law in India. People may accept the good moral from the Holy books and try to imbibe in their lives. When Muslims, Christians, Sikh, Jains and several other religions living in India, we cannot call it a Hindu Nation which is insensitive other religions living in a secular country.

    Mohan Bhagwat should read the Vedas thoroughly and get some enlightenment about tolerance taught in Vedas.

    I love Bible, Veda, Quran or any Holy books that teaches morals to live a better life.

    I agree with one point with Mohan Bhagwat about our vices. We must stop chewing Pan, gutka, tobacco, etc., and spit on the walls.

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  • peter, Brahmavar

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    There is only one identity we have that is Indian. Exit. Hidutwa,Bbudhitwa, moditwa all madness. What tatwa RSS have when Naturam Godse killed Mahatma Gandhi. This group was before the freedom and still there to spread the venom of hatred not national integrity.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    peter, Brahmavar

    You should have given a country to them in 1947 liie you gave pakistan for Muslims. By the way, what mistake they have done for which they have been denied a country?

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  • mak, jeddah

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    This subject has slightly taking some readers to think that till now RSS, VHP, BAJRANGDAL etc only trying to hurt sentiment of the others who are living in this nation. Every time taking a religious subject. Come up with the necessary subjects like water and electricity issues,
    Donations to the needy, Corruption, rape, terrorism etc.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    mak, jeddah

    Religion is bigger issue as other problems you have stated has never ended in dividing the country...

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  • Ahmed.S, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Hindutva is new word in Indian History coined by RSS in 1920s .Hindutva and Hinduism are two different things. Hinduism is humanity ,respect other beliefs and a peaceful way of life. This form was preached and practiced by Gandhi .Hindutwa is racial ,divisive and non tolerant force believes in destruction . Godse was the one attracted by Hindutva. If Indian Identity is identified by Hinduism we do not have any problem . But we say a BIG NO to Hindutva.We believe in mutual respect and peaceful co existence.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Ahmed.S, Mangalore

    Gandhi's Hinduism will only divid the country.
    Your brothers made a Pakistan...
    Cousins were about to make Hyderabad another country...
    Your nephews would have made Kashmir one more country....
    Your fellow almamaters would have made North East India another country...
    That is advantage you and your siblings have with Gandhi's Hinduism...

    We do not need such "Hinduism" which can divide the country.
    We need Hinduism that keeps country intact. Hope God(se) will help up...

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  • Suleman Beary, Udupi

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    RSS drill reminded me like the one similar video of Naxalite or terrorist organization training center in remote location.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Suleman Beary, Udupi

    By default you think all about terrorism. I am not surprised if you think same by seeing school children drill at school...

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    This is the problem of electing Chaddis.They say they would build Ram Mandir snd Seek votes.After coming to power no Ram Mandir.They say development and come to power.But after coming to power no development but only Bull^%&* talk.People are not interested in Chaddi Bull $%^&.They need good life.Less tax.Peace in the society. Now who will make these fools understand the common man's requirement. Togadia,Singanias.Muthalik.Sadvi and now Bhatgvat are all scums of society.People are not interested in them except some Chaddi supportesr including so called educated.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Ajith, Mangalore

    You wanted Ram Mandir. Is it?
    Then pray for two third majority for BJP in 2019..

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  • Vishal, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Isn't this the same Narendra Modi who was parroting the words - sabka saath sabka vikas in his election campaigning? Now why is he trying to usher in Hinduvta through the back door? Let him not lose sight of the fact that he is the P.M. of India and not of any group or sangh. He is the P.M. of Hindus as much as he is the P.M. of Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and Jains. We Indians will whole heartedly support the country's P.M. whichever party he belongs to but justice demands that he treats all people and religions equally. He must rise above petty casteism and concentrate only on development. The people of this country voted the BJP for the promised 'acche din' and instead of achieving this objective, if the BJP starts playing caste politics, it amounts to betraying the trust of the people they placed in them.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Vishal, Mangalore

    Hindu's vikas was stopped from 2004. They also need to progress. What mistake they have done by the way...

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  • Anamika, mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Bulla ki jaan main kounu...
    Bulla ki jaan main kounu...??

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  • Avinash, Ksd/Bluru

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Well said Bhagwatji. Evenif our country is secular we are known for our great Sanaatana Dharma

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    hinduism is referred to the way of life of people living to the east of river sindhu by persians.there is no relation between hinduism and sanaathana dharma.

    sanaathana dharma(which is mistakenly called hinduism) is the relegion like islam,judaism,christionity and zorastrianism.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    this is reply to kurt waschnig,germany

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    yes HINDU IS OUR IDENTITY ASK ANY ARAB REGARDLESS ANY RELIGION THEY WILL CALL YOU HINDI NOW SO CALLED SECULARIST IN ME DEFENDING THEMSELVES WHAT THEY CAN SAY !!! GUYS WE ARE FIRST HUMAN BEINGS LET US LIVE TOGETHER WITH UNITY AND DONT MIX THE RELIGION 11

    IN ME THERE ARE SO MANY GUYS ARE SHARING ONE ROOM WITH DIFFERENT NATIONALITY AND DIFFERENT RELIGION !! WHAT DOES MEAN THAT !!! END OF THE DAY YOU ARE HERE FOR BREAD WINNER FOR YOUR FAMILY OR YOURSELF

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    @Kuldesh

    Nothing wrong in quoting veda or bible or quran if some people get inspiration from it ,..but it doesnt give authority to impose vedic culture on other communities who may not believe in it...Rss believes in submission to vedic culture those who people who adhere to other religion they doubt their patriotism coz it is mixing patriotism with religion..If you read your gurujis book it speaks so well the hatred which you are having to other community and if only those who submit to hindu vedic culture their patriotism is not doubted...It is deadly cocktail which RSS is selling by mixing nationalism with religion....
    When you quote you should also remember that two greatest reformers in India one buddha and other basavanna rejected vedic authority.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    no one should impose thier religion on others.i 100% agree with this.
    i just commented some quotes here just to convey that all religions are path to reach the same god who is called by different names.no religion is smaller or greater as it leads to same god.thats it.period

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    some people have tried to authorise the vedas and tried to deny vedas to all people.god gave vedas to all people,not for set of people.just bcoz of mistakes of few people, whole religion should not be mistaken.what more proof is needed as ramayan is written by sage valmiki who was from backward class.
    god has not created classes among humans.its just created by humans for his selfish needs.

    dont confuse varna sytem(division of labour) as caste system.

    today there is no such thing. vedas,bhagavad-gita are accessed by all and any one can study it even those outside the relegion.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    basavanna and buddha tried to remove the man made contamination to the religion which is correct.they tried to convey that humans should not contaminate the vedas or puranas for thier selfish interests and twist according to thier whims and fancies which everyone agrees.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Manu, mangalore

    As you quoted Budhdha & Basavanna, let me reply whish cuits you...

    Budhdha - Yes, there are countries which follow Budhdhism as its identity.

    Basavanna - Let us have a country with Basavanna's identity. All Hindus are ready to accpet it. Bhagwat also accpets it... you and thinkers like you too accpet it.

    Probelm solved...:-)
    India has to be recognised as Basavanna's Lingayath identity...

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  • Manohar Veigas, UDUPI

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    The Oxford English Dictionary itself defines 'Hinduism' as "the principal religion and philosophy of India". Hence, while appreciating the fact, we should live up to the expectations of this ancient culture irrespective of caste and religion.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Manohar Viegas, UDUPI
    The Oxford English dictionary can define Hinduism the way they wish to it, it does not change the reality on the ground that India is a nation of many religions. Is the Oxford English dictionary the fountain of truth ? Does it have the status of a holy book like the Bible, Quran, Bhagavad Gita etc. for telling the truth ?
    No need to believe everything written in the Oxford English Dictionary.
    BTW how does the English Oxford dictionary define Jallianwallah Bagh ?

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  • Eqbal, mlr

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Here the concern over controversy is why doordarshan Broadcasted hatred speech on tax payers money.Indian Public already given verdict to Mohan Bhagwa with 30% of mandate to them in last general polls. He already admitted in his speech by saying The organization struggling since 1925.It is high time for uppercase organization to unite lower caste and other Hindu tribes and give them equal status and then try their identity.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    mr eqbal,narendra modi is from backwardclass community. every one elected him uninanimously.what more proof do you want.

    modern generation hindus dont give any value to so called upper class and so called lower class.within hindu community inter-caste marriages are happening at rapid scale recently.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Eqbal, mlr

    Can you quote any "hate sentences" in the speach..?

    Remember that RSS members too pay tax and UPA was using the same money to blame RSS members. And that is known as hate speach.

    By the way, thanks for the effort for dividing the Hindus in caste line... Keep it up...!!!

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    With friends like Pseudo secularists india do not need enemies!!!

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  • Kurt Waschnig, Oldenburg, Germany

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    India’s Supreme Court has d that Hinduism did not denote a religion but a way of life. However, Hinduism has not been able to solve any of India’s tremendous problems. And recent years have shown that the economic and social conditions have gone from bad to worse for hundreds of million Indians. The reality shows Hinduism as a “way of life” and as a religion, though liberal, has failed to solve the urgent problems. Everyone who wishes the best for the country thinks of solutions that could help improve the economic, political and social condition of the people.

    What could be the best way? The answer is secular humanism. Democratic secular humanism has creatively flowered in modern times with the growth of freedom and democracy. Countless millions of thoughtful persons have espoused secular humanist ideals, have lived significant lives, and have contributed to the building of a more humane and democratic world. The modern secular humanist outlook has led to the application of science and technology to the improvement of the human condition. This has had a positive effect on reducing poverty, suffering, and disease in various parts of the world, in extending longevity, on improving transportation and communication, and in making the good life possible for more and more people. It has led to the emancipation of hundreds of millions of people from the exercise of blind faith and fears of superstition and has contributed to their education and the enrichment of their lives. Secular humanism has provided an impetus for human beings to solve their problems with intelligence and perseverance, to conquer geographic and social frontiers, and to extend the range of human exploration and adventure.

    Regrettably, we are today faced with a variety of anti-secularist trends: the reappearance of dogmatic authoritarian religions fundamentalist, literalist, and doctrinaire Christianity a rapidly growing and uncompromising Muslim clergy in the Middle East and Asia the reassertion of orthodox authority by the Roman Catholic papal hierarchy nationalistic religious Judaism and the reversion to obscurantist religions in Asia. Secular humanism is not a dogma or a creed. There are wide differences of opinion among secular humanists on many issues. Nevertheless, there is a loose consensus with respect to several propositions. We are apprehensive that modern civilization is threatened by forces antithetical to reason, democracy, and freedom. Democratic secular humanism is the way to overcome India’s problems.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @Kurt Waschnig, Oldenburg, Germany
    Well written !

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  • MhUSSAIN, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Victor machado / Managlore - Tanzania

    Excellent view point

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) American Philosopher:

    "Whenever I have read any part of the Vedas, I have felt that some unearthly and unknown light illuminated me.
    In the great teaching of the Vedas, there is no touch of sectarianism. It is of all ages, climes and nationalities
    and is the royal road for the attainment of the Great Knowledge.
    When I am at it, I feel that I am under the spangled heavens of a summer night."

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    In this digital age we can find tones of documentary about Vedas and other sacred scriptures and it’s really nice see positive response, comments from younger generation!!yes we are feeling proud!!

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  • Ashwil, Mangalore/Australia

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Since you dragged Christians in general, I have to ask you few questions. Do you know how many castes, sub casts Hindus have. You probably don't because in Singapore there are only few Hindus. You celebrate Deewali as Indian New Year in Singapore where are your neighbor ( A Tamilian- I guess you live in Little India) says it is Pongal which is Indian New Year and he also says Tamil is India's national Language. In Karnataka, People celebrate Dassara as the death of Mahishasur and in Bengal it is the death of Rawan. In Karnataka, it is deewali where Bali along with Vaman comes to visit where as in Kerala it is happening during Onam. So, called New year Yugadi comes twice depends on your caste, Chandraman and Sauraman. By the way those more than 90% non Hindus made Singapore a world class economy after 1962. Being in the 10% category what are you trying to do there?? Destabilizing Singapore, like concerting Singapore Kundapore? By the way I have nothing against Hindus but you dragged Christians who contributed immensely to India and support India in everything. They don't support Italy or USA even in sports forget in politics. Tell you what, with this mentality you should not be in Singapore, Kundapore is proper place for you to be forever

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Ashwil, Mangalore/Australia

    First of all, I have not dragged christianity....

    Only opposing the effort of few Christians like you who try to boil their pulse ("beLe beyisikoLLuvudhu") by wrongly highlighting caste system in Hindus.

    Sauramaana & Chandramaana are not caste based...!! and it shows your zero knowledge. There are Brahmins belong to both Sauramaana and Chandramaana...!! People follow sauramaana is happy with it and also respects chaandramaana followers and vice versa. You need note poke your nose into this.

    Once when we coastal people were feeling proud about our rich culture of Yakshagaana, the "old mysore" area half knowledged people were trying to suppress us by saying there is "tenkuthittu" & "badaguthittu". Such a divisive nature you too are following. Hence, it is humble as well as aggressive request that you STOP talking about caste system in Hidus. If you are free & kill your time, then take up some good work rather dividing others.

    One thing I completely agree with you is Kundapura is better than Singapore. I am happy for your wish that I have to be permanently in Kundapura....:-)

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    probably you being a hindu, you surrender your patriotism to your lust for money/wealth. .... FEKU

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  • Fr Victor Machado, Mangalore/Tanzania

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    The resentment is not for Hindutva ideology, but for mixing it up with the government. In the past the Western countries were mixed with Christianity and now religion is outside the purview of government. In Islamic countries where religion is mixed with government, no one likes the violation of human rights. Do we need to enforce our Hindu identity through the government. The problem is not Mr Modi or Mr Bhagavath speaking for Hindutva ideology while they are on the top posts of responsibility. The danger lies in irresponsible people taking a wrong message from such official machinery misuse the freedom to inflict pain on others. Otherwise, how would you explain the murder of a techie in Poona by HIndu right wing groups just on fictitious ground that he posted something on the face book. By promoting an ideology, which is not required for good governance, even if it excludes a few appears to be arrogant and insensitive. Let RSS work independently of the government

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Fr Victor Machado, Mangalore/Tanzania

    I fully agree with you and DUE RESPECT to your status as FATHER.

    However, your quote about Pune murder is nothing to do with RSS. I felt you should have quoted pundits murders in Kashmir also to ensure your IMPARTIAL and RIGHT message makes your followers to think in India problem is not one-sided.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Reverend Father, we totally endorse and support your views and every line of your comment on this subject.

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  • Lawrence, USA

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    I welcome well educated people like Fr. Victor Machado writing on this forum with well balanced and logical opinion. I would like to remind the other well educated people with the following quote:

    “The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people but the silence over that by the good people.”
    ― Martin Luther King Jr.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    i agree with you lawrence.there are good people and bad people in every religion.so it is the responsibility of good people to contain or reform the bad people else they not only bring bad name to the religion but also humanity.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Thank you Lawrence for quoting Martin Luther King Jr.. It deserves to be quoted in capitals.

    I would like to state it a bit differently as follows :
    "Bad things continue to happen in this world not only just by the bad deeds of bad men but more by the SILENCE of good men against bad men and bad deeds"

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Oppenheimer

    "the father of the atomic bomb" quoting from the Hindu scripture Bhagavad-Gita upon witnessing the mushroom cloud resulting from the detonation of the world’s first atomic bomb in New Mexico, U.S.A., on July 16, 1945.

    “Access to the Vedas is the greatest privilege this century may claim over all previous centuries. “

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    The same Oppenheimer quoted Gita 'Now I have become death, destroyer of the worlds' probably to justify the holocaust.

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    all the constructive things and all the destructive things are very well detailed and explained in vedas.but a person with sane mind devoted to god looks towards constructive things,other looks towards destructive things.
    as in life good and bad both are there. its upto to us to choose the good or bad depending upon our conscience and earn the fruits of it.

    nukes,scalar weapons,aeroplane technology were all there before and detailedy explained in vimaana shashtra.

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    destroyer of Pseudo secularists who are like SHAKUNI'S of MAHABHARATA!!!

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  • CA Satish Shetty, Kinnigoli Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    What is the harm in his statement.Hinduism is nationalism.Why all these Dajiworld readers started barking?

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  • Bhandara, India

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    CA Sathish Shetty
    Daiji world readers are barking because they saw the roaming mad dogs - M & M.

    Got it?

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Dear Shetre,This is their world!And also world wise...They cant get better place than this though it is of microscopic effect!!!

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  • S.S.D'Souza, Udupi

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    History repeats itself. Today India is resembling Germany of 1930-40's.

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  • Achhu , M,lore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    India's main power is population please do not try to reduce it by creating communal violence.

    A negative mind never lead a positive life.

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  • Vincent Praveen Castelino, Pernal / Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014


    They BJP couldn't succeed in any of their tall promises made during the last "General Election Campaign" to the electorate!!!.

    So no wonder hidden agenda's etc. are coming to the fore now. All those who have given a "Chance" for a change of guard to rule in Delhi have realized what the BJP is up to!!!.

    Mandir,Statue of Sardar Patel ideas have been taking R.I.P....now Cleaning of Ganga,Hindutva have come to the fore....

    .....and this is called Narendra Modi's "Minimum Government and Maximum Governance"!!!

    "Misuse" of the state broadcaster by Mr. Mohan Bhagwat!!!. Will they (the Present Government)allow tomorrow a Muslim Cleric or a Christian Priest or any other religion head in our country to do the same???

    Only Supreme Court will do something now and not the present Government headed by a "Chaiwala" and what more one can expect from him other than beating Japanese Drums in India!!!

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Vincent Praveen Castelino, Pernal / Mumbai

    BJP promises will come true in 60 months, not in 60 days or 60 weeks...:-)

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  • Alfred, Mumbai / Muscat

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore
    LOL !! You cracked a good joke, in 60 months I doubt if it will be Swach Bharat.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    RSRB, cleaning ganga and toilets is a different ballgame...

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    DID YOU GUYS FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE...

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    That is what is going on...
    Of course, we ensure this time independence comes without dividing country...

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Saldanha,Right question!!!
    Tell me one prominent Christian name who faught for India's independence!!!I know that I will not get the answer!!!

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    @KRPrabhu, Bangalore
    Every Indian Christian who supported India's struggle for freedom fought for her independence. It seems you are interested only in 'prominent' names. Sorry, but by this comment of yours it appears that you are attempting to show Indian Christians in poor light. You did it before in an earlier article and I gave you a response for that.
    Anyway, I have always known that a fanatic mentality is almost impossible to change.

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Christians gave you independence. What else you want?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    indians took thier independence.nothing is free in this world.everything is earned.if allowed they would have ruled us forever,same with mughals.

    mughals were kicked by british.british were kicked by indians.thats it.period.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    India belongs to all INDIANS and is not the Sole property of DUFFERS

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    You mean DUFFER fake Gandhis..?
    I agree with you..
    Whole India is aware of this and thrown fake Gandhis into garbage, otherwise these fake Gandhis think India belongs to them and can impose emergency like they did in 1977

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Mark Twain, American author:

    "India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Albert Einstein,German Scientist:

    “When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous.”

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  • Alwyn, india

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    and rapes, corruption, fakugiri

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  • SAGAR, SURAT

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Dear Friends,
    Hindutva is going to be there for ever & it is eternal!after thousands of years of invaders' rule & British rule it still exists because of the strong faith in it!India is for everyone & not for one particular religion.Let us forget this issue & stop debating over this!Lets talk of development & how to take our Great country to new heights!
    Jai Hind!

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  • Ashwil, Mangalore/Australia

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Rightly said mate. If every Indians think like you, INDIA today could have ruled the world but now we are one of the most populous country but we are not even in 10 largest economy of the world. If we have to be the great country, we have to keep the religion in the pocket. No country in the world succeeded with religious mentality but secular. BTW,a word to Kuldesh. I can teach you Gita, Ramayan and Mahabharat. Instead of talking about religion, talk about nation. Garv se kaho mein Bharatiy. Tha would take India forward. If you meet (in heaven)ask Einstein why he did not embrace Hinduism and why Germany in spite of division after world war II, is bigger economy than India. by chance if you meet another person, Mark Twain ask him why he could not come down to India and live there. Why cant you think straight like likes of Sagar and others and think about the nation??

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Teach that to, few secular Daijians here!! .. when Modi says, SWACH BHARAT.. they come n say "Modi apna dil saaf karlo"!! .. when he says "$100Billion Trade... Modi what about Godhra"...!! when Modi says "100 smart cities.... What about RIots"!!! baat baat pe communalism aahi jaati hai! ... kuch aadat se majboor hai!!

    especially, those who give gyaan to others on what is HINDUTVA, WHAT IS CONSTITUTION, what is Bhaichaara!!! bhai log.. ye Hindus hai, isliye yahan bhaichara hai! bata do inhe!

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Ashwil, Mangalore/Australia

    Your knowledge of Ramayana and Mahabharatha is ZERO. Please take an year to read & understand them with true spirit. Surely then you will be eligible to teach Kuldesh. Best of luck...!

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    some people without even knowing the essence of ramayan,mahabharath,rigveda,samaveda,yajurveda,atharvanaveda, upanishads,skanda purana, arthashastra,vimana shstra. manusmriti and many more are trying to teach us the same.
    not even one full life is enough to fully understand and master it.
    its like child teaching mother how to walk.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    RSS is an extremist political organization aligned with Chaddi chaaiwaala's BJP.

    Because of RSS constant struggle for promoting swadheshi movement by distributing poisonous leaflets to every nooks and corners presently we have in every Bharath's house MADE IN CHINA.

    VIRTUALLY THEY WASTED THEIR PRECIOUS TIME AND ENERGY IN PROPAGANDA BY WIELDING CLUBS AND IN DRUM BEATING.

    NONSENSE POLITICAL WING OF BJP.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    If it is extremist, why US did not ban it like it did for Al Qaida, ISIS, Jamat Ud Dawa?

    If you tell extremist, do you think readers are fools to believe?

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Dear RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore,

    RSS is an extremist political party for affiliated to Indian communal BJP not for USA.

    Mohan Bhagwat cannot even shake one hair of USA.

    The question of Banning from USA doesn't arise. You are ridiculously bringing ISIS, AL QAIDA here.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    ISIS and Al Qaida does not belong to USA. But USA still banned it...!!!
    RSS is not considered as terrorist by USA or UN or even India when UPA was in power.
    People like you telling 1000 times can not help.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Dear RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore,


    Blah, Bllah, Blah....

    ISIS, AL QAIDA ETC., ETC., TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS ARE THREAT TO USA.

    RSS CANNOT THREATEN USA AND THAT IS THE REASON THEY DIDN'T BAN RSS.

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  • Amin Bhoja, Patte / Riyadh

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    BJP is slowly as usual dragging it's feet towards communal debate,Is he a communal or not.A development!!! a unfortunate!!!

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  • Bulsam, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Is RSS is allowed to radicalise India as Non-Hindus are foreigners or outsiders then PM Modi, you please remember what the world leaders told you during your foreign visits. If you will not shut the draconian RSS from speaking in a communal tone, I am sorry the world will not take you seriously and the FDI will not attract towards India. Mr. Modi will be responsible if the world will isolate India from the main stream. Please learn from the mistake of Pakistan and other Islamic nations that brooded the radicals like Al Qaida and ISIS.
    Please remember, united we stand and if you divide the citizens of India, other than we fall there will be civil war in India and India will become unstable.
    Say NO to RSS ideology & say YES to India development.
    Say NO to divide and rule & say YES to inclusive growth.
    Say NO to Hindutva radical Dharma & say YES to Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam.
    Jai Hind!

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Bulsam, Mangalore

    RSS is only telling identity is Hindutwa. I have seen in Oman many Hindus are Omanis, but follow Islamic culture including dress, language, etc... However, they are ardent devotees of Hindu diety & follow Hinduism. They are happy in islamic country. When it is possible in Oman, why not in India?

    India never gets isolated, as all countries are trying to promote local culture and identity. It is only pampered minorities in India are thinking other way. In fact, foreigners are surprised when they come to know Hindus are sidelined in the reservation and minorities are being given reservation in government jobs and government favours...

    As you have taken other Islamic countries example, I am also taking examples like Oman, Malaysia etc. Let us follow the same way how they are dealing with minorities.

    I am not sure whether you condemn Shadhi Bhagya, Muslim reservation etc., which are minority pampering. Please do not be silent, as they are divisive. If Indian muslims voiced strongly against Jinnah, country would not have divided.

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  • TRaghu Pai, Bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Supreme Court said Hindutva is way of life, Hindutva is nothing but Hinduness - world's oldest religion on earth.
    Even world's largest Darul Islam Indonesia follows Hindutva, Lord Ganesh on currency, Dronacharya academy, Arjun statues, Hindu names like Megawati Sukarnoputri, Ramayana/Mahabharata folk art culture. Next Christian majority countries like USA,UK,Australia celebrate Diwali, Janmashtami in White House, House of Commons and Australian parliament, many US senate sessions opened with Hindu prayers. Bhagwatji is right, Hindutva means Vasudeiva Kutumbakam.

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  • mahesh, mlr/dxb

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    If hindutva is a way of life, then bhagwat and his followers shouldn't hell bent on stopping others from following their preferred way of life, and try to enforce uniform civil code etc.

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  • TRaghu Pai, Bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Mahesh, It was Secular Congress which retained common civil code of Portuguese style in Goa. No one has problem and no one attack Congress on this but when RSS or BJP want to copy Congress and implement same all over India its communal politics.
    Congress kare toh chamatkar, BJP kare toh......

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  • mahesh, mlr

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Who say Congress is pavithra?

    If congress does something bad, then rss should also do the same?

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  • Shah Al Hameed, Nitte

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Dear Bro RSRB why dont you mention proper identity, When you say Hindutwa and shy to mention your hindu name, Anyway thats not my issue or any other, but Bro Ahmed mentioned Chaddi because people like you and followers of Mohan Baghat support and not believing in Being Human but only hindutwa.. This wont work and ever.. Yes I do agree I am muslim, Islam is my religion but i dont blame any Hindu as i respect all the religions and Mohan Bagat and his followers aren't Indians because they dont respect Indian constitution and they cant be true Indians.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Shah Al Hameed, Nitte

    Indian constitution mentions Muslim, caste etc..
    This divides the nation...
    Should be removed from the constitution...
    Do you agree?

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Vajpayee was careful enough not to associate with Chaddis openly. But our present PM has lost whatever credibility he has by openly endorsing Chaddi views.Thus the acceptability level of PM is very low.Winning election is not a big deal but carrying everyone along is a different ball game. The lone Chaddi spokesman RSRB Kundapura is not a match to so many negative comments made by many in this forum.Bhagvath level is same as Muthalik.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Ajith, Mangalore

    You say "carrying everyone along is important"
    But you are expecting PM not to carry RSS along...
    How this logic works?

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    By your logic PM should carry along terrorists and criminals also.What do you say?Chaddi Spokesman?

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Ajith, Mangalore

    Yes, he need to carry all Indians along, irrespective of good people like Bhagwat and bad people like PSEUDOS...:-)

    And he is doing it perfectly...
    All PSEUDOS will be given employment in foreign countries so that they can see how religion and humanity is respected....

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  • mahesh, mlr/dxb

    Sun, Oct 05 2014

    Of course antinationals shouldn't be carried together. .

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  • Master, mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    DD was searching for guy like kapil...Anyhow ion is not bad...!!!

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    CONGRATS india on new identity!!!sare janhanse achha....!!

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  • gabriel, sagar

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Hindutva as a reactive ideology cannot be all-inclusive ideology of all Indians. It is not the best of Hindu Traditions. If Hinduism advocates the Gospel of Ahimsa, Hindutva does not fully support it.

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  • A.M Shaikh, Dubai, Belapu, Kaup

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    BHAGAWAT,
    Give this song to NITHIN GADKARI

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Why cheddi less people so much frustrated about Bhagwat statement ???

    DisAgree [37] Agree [29] Reply Report Abuse

  • nazeer husain, jeddah saudi arabia

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Keep your political hindutva with you which almost best marketing tool for majoretarian votebank.The true colour of modi govt now came to light when national channel doordarshan used to spread hatred ideology of rss speech.The identity of india is just INDIA.Even thousand bhagwat cannot imagine of changing indias secular republic identity because its helplessly required for every ruling authorities.No problem bawath can keep day dreaming from dusshera to dusshera

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    nazeer husain, jeddah saudi arabia

    Identity of India was easily changed by Jinna & Gandhi in 1947...
    At the time we wanted a great person like you to protest...
    Or are you the one advocating one Jinna is sufficient who is capable of more than 1000 bhagwats?

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  • TRaghu Pai, Bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Nazeer, India is secular republic because it is a Hindu majority country and Hindus are tolerant. I would appreciate if you propagate secularism in Saudi.
    Past, true color of UPA govt came to light when terror spreading ideologue, separatist, anti-India Yasin Malik's speech was telecasted by same then Secular DD.

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  • Peter, Udupi

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    So they appointed some jobless to justify by replying to comments in DW.

    Good at least jobless can be engaged otherwise it will be "Idle mind is devils workshop"

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Peter, Udupi

    Do not be so cheap on Daiji commentators because it applies to you too...

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    peter we should not forget our past..you used do the same job since 10 years!!!now you are feeling ashamed!!

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Unity of Hindus gives 85% stability to the country....
    Let us achieve first 85% stability...
    15% trying their best to destabilise...

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  • antony, mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    15% are not trying to distabalize.. they are thinking why all are saying hindutva hindutva? do we really need religion in between all of us?? why cannot everyone behave like a good citizen and be happy with others, instead saying hindutva country muslim country or christ.... all are equal.. do not believe in religion, believe in God..

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    antony, mangalore

    Because we had history & experience of our country divided on religious lines...
    The fear still exists...
    Why the clan of those responsible for India's division can not take the responsibility to reassure the Hindus?

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  • Ajith, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Hindutva is the identity of Chaddis only.For the rest hard work and sincerity is the identity.The Chaddis are shameless.Repeatedly they are trying to prove a point which has failed for many years.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Ajith, Mangalore

    If it is failed, why you have rattled now?
    Showing disrespect to hindutva is the identity of PSEUDOS...

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    To unite or divide all Indians, why you need religious tags. Being Indian is not enough for you chaddis.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Ahmed, Mangalore

    When you call fellow Indian as Chaddi, how come unity comes?
    Unity comes with love and affection. When it is not there, Pakistan gets created...

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  • S.M. Nawaz kukkikatte, Dubai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014


    chaDDi live show. They are implementing RSS communal agenda smartly. Hindu Muslim Christian Sikh unity only strengthen our beautiful India. Not by any communal organization.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    S.M. Nawaz kukkikatte, Dubai

    You preach unity but your friends are busy dividing the country in caste lines... Contradicting man..!!!

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  • A.M Shaikh, Dubai, Belapu, Kaup

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    RSRB,
    You mean Mohan Bhagawat Nawaz's friend.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    A.M Shaikh, Dubai, Belapu, Kaup

    Illusion problem?
    Common in desert....
    Please see all the comments in the article..
    Mareechikege oLagaagabedi...:-)

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    SHEHENWAZ,

    BJP AND RSS WITH HINDU COMMUNITY SUPPORT, HOW YOU PEOPLE ARE ROUTED LAST MAY, DID U FORGOT SO EARLY BRO?

    WE WILL REFRESH YOUR MEMORY AFTER MAHARASHTRA AND HARYANA ELECTION......WAIT TILL THAT TIME OK?

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  • ilyas, qatar

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Mahendra shetty insan galthi ek bar sirf karthe bar bar nahi

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  • Neil, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    The actual REMOTE Control of NDA government. There are many things are awaited from these Chaddi Association!

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Neil, Mumbai

    They suffered 60 years...
    Natural justice says, all has to to enjoy equally...

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  • Shekh M, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    He is one of poisonous serpents in the society. People should ignore his speeches

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Shekh M, Mangalore

    Ignoring person will never comment..
    Walk the talk please...

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  • Praveen, Udupi

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    We know you RSS Guys. You were the same guys who hoisted Pakistan flag in India to incite communal violence. How many of you who preach Hindutva have married your sons and daughters to Muslims. The list is endless...

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Praveen, Udupi

    Do not get confused between RSS and SRS....:-)

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  • Praveen, Udupi

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    RSRB Kundapura. They all belong to one Cheddi group. Only their fathers are different.

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Mr. Praveen, it is SRS who hoisted Pakistani Flag. RSS hoists only saffron flag.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    These are their real identities :

    (1) Chhadis Association
    (2) Pseudo Nationalists
    (3) R-umour S-preading S-ociety

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Declan, Mumbai

    Some people are busy spreading romour about caste system....
    May be they are wearing Lungi....

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Chaddi will be d as national dress.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Ahmed, Mangalore

    Let the color of chaddi be other than green...
    Because congress does not mind kissing dirty green chaddis...

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    For chhadis association the only identity is 'CHHADI' !

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    YOU ARE NOT WEARING CHADDI?
    IF YOU WANT WILL PARCEL SEVERAL FOR YOU......

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    When we say "Chaddi", means it is "Dogale Chaddi".

    Nobody else wears those chaddies. Decades ago Police force used to wear them. But, they also changed and now wearing long pants.

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  • Ronnie A. D'Souza, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    This is Mohan Bhagwat speaking, the constitution does not mention his views.

    Leave him and let him say what he wants.

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  • mhUSSAIN, mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    1. No country in the world attach it to its religious identity and repeatedly say it
    2. India is unity in diversity having many religions, caste , creeds, regions and languages and not a single religious identity
    3. Each caste is nation in India. The constitution itself recognises Main 17 nationalities
    4. No majoritarian nation has communal terrorist organisation only minority has Like Irish liberation front, Catalonian BASF party in Spain, in the past Tamil tigers in Srilanka etc.
    So RSS is minority Upper caste Hindu militant force

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    mhUSSAIN, mangalore

    Thanks for the try to divide the country in the name of caste...

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  • S. B., Bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    If Mohan Bhagwat was Dalit or SC/ST we could believe, but he is a full-fledged upper caste hindu who is talking only on behalf of upper caste hindus...even OBC are just ordinary foot soldiers who will never be given the captain-ship and control of power in RSS.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    S. B., Bangalore

    Your effort to divide Hindus is highly appreciated and acknowledged..
    Keep it up...!!!!

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  • Jayaram, Kinnigoli

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    I think people should have some daring while commenting in social networks or webnews.

    Commenting without putting name will confuse to readers whether it is male or female or ????

    It could be any three of above.

    So putting their own name shows that the commentator is not fake and we can address him/her/both by Mr/Mrs/or ....???

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  • Peter, Kinnigoli

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Jayaram

    If you are pointing someone then i would say from the comments written by that.

    That better fits than Him or she .Lol

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  • Peter, Udupi

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Jayaram

    "That" best suits for it.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    We seem to know a certain FEKU who successfully divided Shia and Sunni Muslims in Gujarat in 2002 and after ????????

    In Gujarat that division still exists. Shias support Feku while Sunnis bore the brunt of the massacre. This was done to show the world - "See muslims support me". In reality Feku only has Shia support there where Sunnis are in majority there and who were the victims.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Declan, Mumbai

    Sunni & Shia should come together and hug each other first & then they can start hugging other communities...
    Catholics and protestants should come together and then start making friendship with others....
    As a role model, Hindus are uniting & why you are busy in breaking them??
    if you are free, try to make unity of first 2 sects I mentioned.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    As an Indian I am only concerned about the unity of all 'Indians' irrespective of the differences in their religion, caste, community, sect etc.
    Unity in diversity is what India is and will continue to be.
    The constitution of India allows every Indian to freely practice the faith of his/her choice as long as there is no interference via conversion by force, threat, allurement etc.
    Creation of hatred among religious communities, castes, sects is the handiwork of certain politicians for gain as they are only concerned about attaining and holding on to power and not concerned about what damage it can cause to society.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Declan, Mumbai

    Then why are you dividing the nation across caste?

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    RSRB, are you okay in your mind ?Quit making false accusations against me !!!!!! Are you half asleep or are you drunk ? What makes you accuse me of dividing nation on caste basis. Never do I make such comments, not here, not ever as such a mentality in NOT IN MY DNA. Probably you need to take a closer look at my comments. I was only stating facts about what happened in Gujarat in response to a comment in you made telling the person about dividing on caste basis. If you are poor at understanding English I will understand but DONT YOU MAKE WILD ALLEGATIONS !
    And yes, dont try cunning provocative comments against me, they will never work.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    brother Declan, Mumbai

    When you came to advocate S.B. for his caste comment, it gives a meaning that you too support him in dividing country in caste line ...

    Anyway, appreciate for clarifying your view. Request you not to "drink milk below palm tree"... People think that you are consuming alcohol.... (Actually you are milk and S.B. was palm tree)......:-(

    Discussion stops here...:-)

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    All these dividing forces are rattled!!! Using their religious identities, they get good "dirha riyal paying jobs in Middleeast and West countries"... and they want Hindus in India to suffer! and when they get some jobs cos of reservations, (who r historically never bene a ruler class (dalits)) , they too need a resevration based on religion, even they had their kings here who ruled India!

    Let them get furstrated.. Mohanji Bhagwat is doing a Wonderful job.. recent election results are a testimonial, how Hindus r uniting and together for Modi!! it shall further continue!! leave these Naysayers alone!! they r like those Somalian people, who think, by "rounding up around a tree and shouting and abusing a tree it will die on its own"!!

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  • ilyas, qatar

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Vellano...ur which party R.s.s or bjp?

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Ilyas Kaaka, nanga NATIONALIST party!! whoever thrives for India's growth and sides with truth is my idols! Currenly its Modi who is my leader.... I dont like borrowed or imported ideology or religions!! (not discourage others who do it, either).. marxism, or Middleeast Arabic religions or judaism or Zorostrianism or what evangelist profess here...! we have sent our home made religions like Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism worldwide too!! however, I respect everyone practicing it... But my way of life is simple HINDUTVA! if we dont love what is ours, why would anyone else respect us? RSS was invited by Nehru for republic parade... they r volunteering, everywhere there is national calaimity.. they help unite Hindu brethern, caste lines r now slowly vanishing... people feel happy together, and celebrate national festivals together! what more u want? ... meanwhile they ask everyone to vote!! a Fascist wont let u vote at all!! here they say exercise ur franchisee, u r free to vote for anyone! ..

    Pope's live shows r done in DD before! no one had a problem then?

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  • kuldesh, bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    modi is from backward class for whom whole hindus supported to become pm.what else proof u want?hahaha

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  • Tom Cat, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Hindutva is the national identity where bangi is on the lowest rung of the ladder.

    I am happy he has said it as most of the bangis dhall voted for him.

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  • Syed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    He is not my Leader. And India does not belong only to Hindus.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Syed, Mangalore

    In UAE, many Hindus and Christians own property, does not mean it is not a Muslim nation...

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  • ilyas, qatar

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Vellano...you knw U.A.E law?u knw how many type law is there?

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Ilyas Kaaka Yend aait..? nakk yendig bilikade? (Ilyas, what happnd, why u calling me)!! ad RSRB alle! :-D

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  • Peter, Bangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Caste system is country's national identity.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Peter, Bangalore

    Caste system is country's ANTI-national identity - Mahatma Gandhi

    ANTI missing in your comment. I added. Hope you say thinks to me.

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  • Syed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Then u clearly do not know the Democracy of India and i have nothing to do with UAE. I know only INDIA which is OUR (hindu muslim christian and all others) U or I dont own it. but we ALL DO

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Syed, Mangalore

    Then why you are supporting an Indian like Bhagwat...
    Show unity in diversity, as you preach...

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    GREAT SPEECH GIVEN BY MOHAN BHAGWATHJI....HE ADDRESSED THE VALUE OF SOCIETY'S CULTURE, HINDUS AND HINDUISM.....

    REFERRED HINDUISM IS THE SYMBOL OF PEACE AND BROTHERHOOD....FOR HINDUISM SUCCESSES NEED UNITY AND REQUIRE LOVE TOWARDS OUR GREAT NATION....

    HE DIDN'T MENTIONED IN HIS SPEECH ANYTHING ON CONVERSION OF OTHER RELIGION TO HINDUISM....

    JAI HO RSS.....

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    So, he is the decision maker for our Nation ?

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Ahmed, Mangalore

    As far as decision is good, no problem..

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    No problem is for you chaddi guys. not for us.

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  • Raj Amin, udupi

    Sat, Oct 04 2014

    Learn to wear chaddi...it feels good...

    DisAgree [4] Agree [18] Report Abuse


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