No difference between NDA and UPA governments: Kargil martyr's father


Shimla, June 1, (IANS) : Feeling let down by the successive Indian governments, the father of Captain Saurabh Kalia is now pinning hopes on the Supreme Court. Saurabh was the first to report Pakistani incursion in Kargil in 1999. He was taken captive with five other troops by Pakistani troops and his mutilated body was handed over to his family a few weeks later.

"Whether it's the NDA (National Democratic Alliance) or the UPA (United Progressive Alliance), both are two sides of the same coin," the late young army man's father N.K. Kalia told IANS on Monday.

Aghast at the stand of the Narendra Modi government on dealing with Mumbai terror attackers and the Pakistan army, the senior Kalia said India was apparently confused in its policy on Pakistan.

His outburst came a day after External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj denied any "flip-flop" in India's policy towards Pakistan and said no talks can be held with it as long as Mumbai attack mastermind Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi was walking free.

"It's something astonishing that India is projecting a tough stand against the perpetrators of the Mumbai attack but somehow soft towards its national heroes. Why?" asked 64-year-old Kalia, who retired as a senior scientist from the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR).

"Is Pakistan a friend or an enemy? India is totally confused. This is my personal experience for the past 16 years when I lost my son for the country's sake."

The previous Manmohan Singh government had clarified its stand in the Supreme Court in November 2013 that it will not treat Kalia's torture by Pakistani troops as a war crime.
The central government had filed its response in the case in the apex court, saying it had no intention of taking up the issue under the Geneva Convention.

Kalia said the same stand was being pursued by the present BJP government, which before coming to power had projected itself to be tough against Pakistan.

"Like its predecessor, the BJP government at the Centre is soft. This is amply reflected from Minister of State for Foreign Affairs V.K. Singh's reply to MP Rajeev Chandrashekhar's question in parliament," he said.

To Chandrashekhar's query on whether the government proposed to take up Kalia's torture with the International Court of Justice (ICJ), V.K. Singh, himself a retired General and army chief, had recently replied: "The attention of the international community has already been drawn to these heinous and barbaric acts of Pakistan army, including through a statement to the UN General Assembly on September 22, 1999, and to the Commission of Human Rights in April 2000."

"The possibility of seeking legal remedies through the international courts was also thoroughly examined, but not found feasible," said V.K. Singh in his reply, forwarded by Chandrasekhar to Kalia.

Chandrasekhar also sought to plead the case with the UN Human Rights Council to declare the torture of Captain Saurabh Kalia and five other soldiers, whom Pakistani army captured with him, as a war crime.

The elderly Kalia, settled in the tea garden town of Palampur, about 220 km from state capital Shimla, is pinning hopes on the Supreme Court where his petition has been listed for next hearing on August 25.

The apex court has asked the government to make its stand clear through an affidavit by the next date of hearing.

His plea is for issuing directions to the government that his son's torture by the Pakistan Army be referred to the International Court of Justice (ICJ).

Captain Saurabh Kalia, of the 4 Jat Regiment, was the first Indian Army officer to report the incursion by the Pakistan army on Indian soil in Kargil region.

He and five soldiers - Arjun Ram, Bhanwar Lal Bagaria, Bhika Ram, Moola Ram and Naresh Singh - were on patrol at the Bajrang Post in Kaksar sector of Jammu and Kashmir when they were taken captive by the Pakistani army on May 15, 1999.

They were tortured for weeks before being killed. Their mutilated bodies were handed over to the Indian authorities on June 9.

  

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  • Vincent Rodrigues, Katapadi/B'lore

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    The NDA government is equally responsible for this delay with Congress and now BJP again.People to bear in mind when electing the next government.

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  • John, Udupi

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    Ramesh, if you cant analyse your own answer, I will tell you that Kargil happened in 1999 and the BJP government was there till 2004!. Now will you ask why action was not taken till 2004 and you are depending on UPA government!?

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    Saurabh was the first to report Pakistani incursion in Kargil in 1999.
    However identifying the difference between NDA and UPA took Kargil martyr's father time.
    Yes off course, there is difference in NAME!

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  • John, Udupi

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Rameshji, This blame game will not last long!. Dont know which NDTV you view!?. Anyhow you have to support this government for another 4 years like this! no choice for you too! such a pity!

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    This torture and murder took place when vajpayee was the PM from 1999 - 2004.

    why didn't Vajpayee do anything back then?

    SPINELESS MAN WITH A 56 inch chest

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  • j.anata, Mangaluru / Bengaluru

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    Sushma goes with fresh appeal on ICC with Supreme Court to approach Pak Govt on International agreement...Google today!

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  • John, Udupi

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Mr. Ramesh, Bakhts like you should remember the hue and cry created by the same people now in power about Kalia's case!. Have you forgotten that!?. Everything cant be blamed on UPA and you escape!. Then why that drama was done in parliament and ouside!?

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    ..PAPPU Bhakts should read DW report correctly. it says ' The previous Manmohan Singh government had clarified its stand in the Supreme Court in November 2013 that it will not treat Kalia's torture by Pakistani troops as a war crime.
    The central government had filed its response in the case in the apex court, saying it had no intention of taking up the issue under the Geneva Convention'..now how come MODI responsible for this..today when senior Kalia took this issue with NDA Govt, Sushma Swaraj clearly said Govt will take this issue to International court if SC permits..The fact is Indian Govt(which ever may be) dont want to take this to International court since it may lead to Internationalization of KASHMIR conflict..Pakistan wants to internationalize Kashmir issue by every means..so Govt is cautious in this issue..every war leads to collateral damages,nobody can expect a fare game with enemy..but its a great loss for a father,have to understand his fealing..

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  • roshan, mangaluru

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Muthalik ...kush huwa..nanna pan maraya..baari yedda budpa..

    UPA was criticized by Modi and chelas for its action. In their recent action they did what UPA did. So, whatever you argued on behalf of BJP is exactly what UPA argued. Either you should accept BJP is hypocritical and have 2 faces, or UPA was correct. You can't have both bacchu..

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  • Jayaprakash, Mangalore/SFO

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    Roshan, he is a bhakth, whatever you say doesn't matter (gorkalla mele malegaredante) since they live in trans-world !

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  • Deekshith kalladka, Kalladka

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Praveen... Don't forget to mention communal congress toooooooooooo

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    BJP-RSS brought down Babri.
    BJP-RSS is responsible for 2002 Gujarat Riots.
    BJP-RSS is responsible for 2008 Kandhamal-Orissa Genocide.
    BJP leader were even chargesheeted in Dekhi for participation in ANti-Sikh riots of 1984.
    BJP were responsible for Communal violence in Udupi-Mangalore region since 2006 -2013.
    Shivsena- BJP were active during Bombay Riots of 1993.

    And COngress is communal?? lolz

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  • j.anata, Mangaluru / Bengaluru

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    21785 Communal cases in Congress rule
    EMERGENCY imposed by Congress in 1975, BLACK DARK PERIOD in India's Democracy!

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  • John, Udupi

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Hope this news will atleast open the eyes of blind Bahkts who say this government is different!

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    John, are you serious..when did kargil happened..why did UPA didnt took this case in 10 years..you should open eyes, not others..its just one year in office not 10 years..you have to ask PAPPU first then MODI..

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  • Anonymous,

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    So you are saying Vajpayee was in Congress between 1999 to 2004.
    Then it makes sense why he even resorted to coffin scam after all congress blood isn't it??

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    ..seems old news..Today NDTV report says MODI Govt ready to take Kalia case to International court if SC permits..SC permission needed in this case..SUSHMA SWARAJ already cleared Govt stands, let SC allow to do so..

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  • praveen, udupi

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Bjp is a bunch of jokers. No matter how many soldiers die, Bjp walas wont stop eating biryani with Nawaz Sharif.

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  • JK, Udupi

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    Ultimately biryani bantha hai na agar free rice milegatho.

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  • India First, India

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    We cannot compare 10 year Govt with 1 year Govt. I am sure in coming days NDA will do better.... !!

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  • Lily Grace, Mangalore/Mumbai/Dubai

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Stop digging the history. Now that BJP is governing the country, start acting and see that the proper justice is done to the family. Modi pl keep your international visit and look into the troubles your people are facing if you really want to be in power.

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  • CHRIS, DUBAI

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    If any Indian soldiers are caught by Pakistan in future please barter them with chaiwala .

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  • Mohammed Hanif, Mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Feel sad for our soldiers who sacrifice their lives to make us safer. Politicians always use them for their personal gains.

    One major difference i see between UPA and NDA is that UPA had a very bad marketing team and hence generally public was made to believe that it was worser than what it was in reality. And in case of NDA they have a very strong digital presence and it is made to appear better than what it truly is.
    See it is all about how you sell your party offerings that creates the public opinion. Contents are same with minor changes.

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  • CHRIS, DUBAI

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Both the governments does not have ba!!s to get rid of Pakistan once and for all , i will have no qualms whatsoever if every single paki is killed in the process ..

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  • GANGARAM, MOODBIDRI

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    BOTH ARE NOT SAME, UPA KEPT CASE OPEN BUT NDA CLOSED AND FINISHED IN ONE SHOT.....

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  • Mohammed SAN, MANGALORE

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    YEAH THATS RIGHT FOR SURE.. NOW A DAYS INSTEAD OF THINKING DEVELOPMENT OF COUNTRY POLITICIANS ARE THINKING SOME NONSENSE SUBJECTS LIKE "GHAR WAPSI" "BEEF BAN" ETC ETC.. :) :) :) :) :) :)

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  • Roshan, Mangaluru

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    This is absolutely incorrect. UPA's stand was severely criticized by Kargil martyr's father and BJP, rightly so. They both said, UPA is soft on terror and respecting national hero's. Today, if BJP tows the same line, how it can be compared equivalent with UPA. It is possibly worse of the two.

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  • Mike, Mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Sir, you have done the supreme sacrifice for the country which can not be denied at any count. Please don't place your hopes on the ungrateful political parties of this country. This country is on sale mode, every commodity has price here whether dead or alive. If you have money you are a king here and your law prevails!!!. Rest all are mere livestocks!!!

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  • Langoolacharya., Belman/Washington,DC.

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    People,

    Both CONgress and BJP are selfish and self serving good for nothing parties....their only aim is to win election, gain power and enjoy it...

    They talk against each other for publicity and for getting votes...they don't act against each other because they know if they harm other they themselves might be harmed next time...

    India wont progress unless both these corrupt parties are removed from their roots....so both will never grow again ever....

    ...JH...

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Shame on UPA.... since 16 yrs you were failed to provide the justice to kargil martyr's family...

    I am sure under modiji provide justice...

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  • Mie, Mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    Jeevan, are you blind in one eye?. Open both your eyes and read the news. Don't bring your cheap politics here. Both UPA and NDA have shut doors on our soldiers and made fun of their ultimate sacrifice.

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Mon, Jun 01 2015

    arrey foolish bhakt...this tirture and murder took place when that vajpayee was the PM from 1999 - 2004.

    what did BJP do for 5 years back then?

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  • gm, mlur

    Tue, Jun 02 2015

    you are dumb and deaf. it was during your bjp rule. Pukat mein hai isiliye comment kartha hai kya?

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