NSA talks finally off, India says unfortunate


New Delhi/Islamabad, Aug 23 (IANS): After going through several now-on, now-off moments, the NSA talks between India and Pakistan were finally called off on Saturday, with both sides sticking to their positions.

In a late night statement, the Pakistan Foreign Office said it has "come to the conclusion that the NSA talks would not serve any purpose if conducted on the basis of the two conditions" laid down by India -- a clear signal calling off the talks.

In reply, India's external affairs ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup tweeted: "Pakistan's decision is unfortunate. India did not set any preconditions.

"We only reiterated that Pakistan respect the spirit of the Simla & Ufa Agreements to which it was already committed," he said.

Pakistan's statement came in response to India's External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj's press conference in which she said Pakistani National Security Advisor Sartaj Aziz was welcome to come to India for talks with his Indian counterpart Ajit Doval but Islamabad must abide by the agenda agreed to at Ufa and only discuss terrorism.

Aziz, who was slated to travel to India on Sunday for the talks, addressing a press conference earlier in Islamabad, said he was willing to come for the talks but Kashmir would be on the table and he would also speak with the Kashmiri separatists.

The Pakistan Foreign Office said in a statement at night that talks held on the two conditions laid down by Sushma Swaraj would not serve any purpose.

It accused the Indian minister of "restricting the agenda" of the talks to only two items: creating an atmosphere free from terrorism and tranquillity on the Line of Control.

On Aziz's planned meeting with Hurriyat leaders ahead of meeting Doval on Sunday, the Pakistan Foreign Office said meeting the separatists has been "a long-standing practice" and that "it would be inappropriate for India to now impose the condition of changing this longstanding practice".

"Pakistan, therefore, reiterates that the scheduled NSA level talks cannot be held on the basis of the preconditions set by India."

Sushma Swaraj, in her press conference, said Aziz has to remain within the agenda agreed to at Ufa, Russia, on July 10 between both their prime ministers.

She said the mandate for the NSA talks was to discuss terrorism-related issues and there was no space for the Hurriyat in talks, as per the Simla Agreement inked between both countries.

She gave Pakistan till Saturday midnight to give its answer on what it proposed to do.

"Pakistan is saying that Kashmir is the core issue, but that was not said at Ufa. In Ufa, it was decided that all outstanding issues including Kashmir... but first let us discuss terrorism and violence," she said.

"The NSAs will talk on all issues relating to terrorism. Aziz said that he is waiting for my press conference. I am answering -- please keep to the Simla and Ufa agreements signed by both our countries.

"As per the Simla agreement spirit, there can be no third party in talks, and the Hurriyat cannot be included. As per the Ufa spirit, don't increase the agenda. And do come, you are welcome."

Sushma Swaraj denied that India was laying any pre-conditions for the NSA talks, as alleged by Pakistan, and said if Pakistan sticks to its stand of raking up Kashmir at the NSA parley and Aziz meets the Hurriyat -- "Toh baatchit nahin hogi" (then there will be no talks).

She said that as per the operative part of the Ufa agreement, there will be three meetings -- between the NSAs to discuss terrorism, talks between the directors general of the BSF and Pakistani Rangers, and between the DGMOs.

Sushma Swaraj also said Pakistan was "running away" from the talks as India has caught a Pakistani terrorist alive after the Udhampur attack.

Earlier, Aziz in his press conference in Islamabad said: "I am still ready to go to New Delhi to hold (NSA) talks without any preconditions."

The atmosphere for the talks soured over the Pakistan High Commission in India inviting the Jammu and Kashmir separatist leaders to meet Aziz ahead of the NSA talks on August 23-24.

Aziz maintained that the core issue of Kashmir would be on the agenda of talks.

To a query, he said: "No serious talks with India are possible without discussion on the core issue of Kashmir."

Aziz said the Pakistan High Commission had invited the separatist leaders to enable him to meet a cross-section of leaders.

India said this was unacceptable.

Hours before Aziz spoke in Islamabad, Kashmiri separatist leader Shabir Shah was detained in New Delhi when he flew in from Srinagar to meet the Pakistani NSA, if he arrives as scheduled.

Aziz said they have prepared three dossiers on alleged activities of India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) on Pakistani soil.

"If I don't get an opportunity to hand over the dossiers to Doval in New Delhi, I hope to give it to him in New York next month if he comes with (Indian Prime Minister Narendra) Modi," he said, adding that he would hand them over to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

  

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  • The Guru, Mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    CHRIS... I agree with you that without French and Portuguese we would have walked with golden lantern in our hand and French and Portuguese would have been next Uganda or ethopia

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  • Shaad, Mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Rightly said, India ruined because of Europe and Europe is rich because of India.
    We Indians battle by religions or fight each other is gift of British and French.

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  • Elroy, Karkala

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    We know how to blame other for our failures. We say british dis that french did this. Why we cant build a India after the Independence. We have all the resources but we dont know how to use it , how to lead it. India can be self sufficient country. We have the best manpower and intelligent people . But still we are dependent on UK and US studies. Still we use British system which is pre independent era, we use british equipments which are so old.

    Go to Bombay and see pipelines railways which are built by British are still there and built by Indians after that all gone bad. Thats the difference between Indian technology and British. We need imported things for our use. We dont believe in Indian Brand. Why cant we change this??? Why cant we bring the quality and discipline of British in our ROad and construction.
    Japan was ruined by atom bombe still they came up to be the superior.

    Why? The politicians and citizens had same goal.
    In india people were taking bonded labours child labours denying them the education. But British didnt deny education to Gandhi or Nehru or some others. Problem was not British. Problem was our own people who were fighting within them gave opportunity to British which they used.
    We have all th e potential to be a developed nation but still everybody is greedy. education is creating a mess rather than creating a developed society.

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    On a lighter side...,
    The game is over..., uUmpire called No Ball, even before the first ball is bowled.
    Huriyat is un-officially declared Man of the Match..,

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  • mohan, mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Since beginning India was strict with Simpla agreement . It is vajapayee made Lahore agreement and gave room for discussion for separatist for political gain.

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  • Anirudh P, Bangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Congratulations to central government for standing firm. This was necessary to show the word that Hurriyat is non-relevant and to Pakistan their place.

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    hundreds of flip-flops and very poor foreign policy by BJP. They are making a Hero out of Hurriyat.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    ..Today in Paki newspaper Mr.CERIL ALMEIDA written a nice blog, analysis of NSA talks..DAWN follows pure/mature journalism..Pak has some really nice media houses..where as in INDIA since 2-3 days some of our media singing songs on DAVOL, DAWOOD, KASAB..they even dialed DAWOODs wife & said hello!!..some of ourour media knows only sensationalism..utter nonsense..

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    No one is willing to listen to your terms ...

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    ..first time we shown some courage to put terms..accepting or rejecting left to them ..one thing sure that HURIYAT soon will be out of picture..all these years they milked from both countries..Govt pays then hefty amount, unaccounted..its not secret..let us now try different path..by the way, some sensible paki media houses seen praising our NSA AJIT DAVOL & intelligent lady SUSHMA..now dont drag LALIT MODI here..

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Hats off Sushmaji, long live enmity of India & napak.

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  • ilyas, udupi

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    british and others are beterden our chor politics and chor government employees...abibi lootraye

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Isme others kaun hai?

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    French and portuguese!! .. who have converted him!!!

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  • CHRIS, DUBAI

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    If it wasn't for Portuguese and French you would have been still walking with lantern and dante lol wearing...

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  • ilyas, qatar

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    sudhakar ask raj barahin...who others..mirchi laga kya???such kadva hotaye kya??

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Yeh, yeh Raj barahin kaun hai?

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  • RAM, Mangalore / Bahrain

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    India or Hindustan...or Bharath..what ever we call..Country was exiting...and having a History of Thousands of years.(British ruled and looted India many years..and before British rule others too looted our India..because INDIA was a RICH country)on the 14-Aug-1947 British created Pakisthan and some Manufacture DEFECT happened. Till today they them self or the world NOT able to rectify or find out what's that Problem. I think some medication..or Surgery..or Hammering (treatment) is required for Pakistan...!!!???

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Good going. Appreciate the govt. for not giving way to pak crookedness.

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  • R Mallar, Kasaragod/ Dubai

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    With or without preconditions, these dialogues won't serve any purpose anyway. Will Pak ever agree to surrender Hafiz or Dawood? Never. We have to live with hostile neighbour.

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  • vivek, herebile / abudhabi

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    Do ever DOG Tail can be straightened!!....apart from Dog's tail....B.J.P should recheck their external Policy....Modi shouldn't be over enthusiasm!!..

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  • Elroy, Karkala

    Sun, Aug 23 2015

    I dont know why India is wasting time on provide proofs.Do you think Pakistan will handover Dawood. Dont expect anything from Pakistan.Indian government is doing this to divert minds of people from Key issues like price hike, lalit sushma issue, Vyapam, etc. Pakistan was the same before now also same. Address the key issues. If you want to terminate Pakistan issue then you should attack Pakistan and finish which is not possible.So dont make it a agenda to talk about Pak. we have lot of important issues. If you want stop Dawood then take action against black money. Stop all the currencies of denomination 1000 and 500 which will encourage cheque and online transfer. Dawood and his chelas in India will suffer. if you act swiftly

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