L K Advani, Murli Manohar Joshi raise banner of revolt against Modi


New Delhi, Nov 10 (IANS): Two days after the BJP was routed in Bihar, the party's old guard including L.K. Advani on Tuesday took on Prime Minister Narendra Modi and BJP president Amit Shah, demanding "a thorough review" of the debacle but said it can't be done by those who were responsible.

In a virtual challenge to Modi's leadership who became the prime minister in May 2014, former party presidents Advani and Murli Manohar Joshi, former union minister Yashwant Sinha and former Himachal Pradesh chief minister Shanta Kumar said the Bihar defeat showed that the BJP had learnt nothing from its crushing defeat by the AAP in Delhi in February.

"To say that everyone is responsible for the defeat in Bihar is to ensure that no one is held responsible," said the brief hard-hitting statement signed by Sinha on behalf of the four leaders.

"It shows that those who would have appropriated credit if the party had won are bent on shrugging off responsibility for the disastrous showing in Bihar," it said, in a clear reference to Modi and Shah who were the BJP's faces vis-a-vis the Grand Alliance of Chief Minister Nitish Kumar.

The statement followed a meeting of the leaders at Advani's residence and then at Joshi's where former central minister Arun Shourie, who has blamed Modi, Shah and Finance Minister Arun Jaitley for the Bihar defeat, was also present along with former BJP ideologue K.N. Govindacharya.

"The result of the Bihar election shows that no lesson was learnt from the fiasco in Delhi," the statement said.

Advani and the others said that a review of the Bihar rout -- where the Bharatiya Janata Party won just 53 of the 243 assembly seats -- "must not be done by the very persons who have managed and who have been responsible for the campaigning in Bihar".

In an obvious reference to Modi and his confidant Shah, it said "a thorough review must be done of the reasons for the defeat as well as the way the party is being forced to kowtow to a handful and how its consensual character has been destroyed".

The statement said the principal reason for the party's defeat in Bihar "is how the party has been emasculated in the last year".

The statement came hours after Home Minister Rajnath Singh -- a la Jaitley on Monday -- said that Modi and RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat were not to blame for the disaster in Bihar where the JD-U, RJD and Congress won a whopping 178 seats.

"The prime minister can't be blamed for the defeat in Bihar," Rajnath Singh said. "It is the BJP's and NDA's electoral loss, not the PM's as a leader."

Jaitley had expressed similar views a day earlier, adding that there was no question of removing Shah as the BJP president because he had led the party to victories in other states after the Lok Sabha battle.

But voices of discontent have been steadily mounting in the BJP since the Bihar results came out on Sunday.

On Tuesday, Bhola Singh became the fifth BJP MP to blame Modi for the defeat. 

The Begusarai MP said the rampant use of "unparliamentary language" by Modi and other party leaders during the election campaign harmed the BJP, leading to its defeat.

"There was no logic to raise issues such as beef and that firecrackers would be burst in Pakistan if the BJP loses," he said. "All these resulted in our defeat."

The other four MPs who have found fault with Modi and Shah, directly or indicrectly, for the Bihar rout are Shatrughan Sinha (Patna Saheb), Hukum Deo Narain Yadav (Madhubani), R.K. Singh (Ara) and Ashwani Kumar Choubey (Buxar).

Advani, credited with building the BJP since it was left with just two Lok Sabha seats in 1984, has been mostly sidelined since Modi took charge of the party's campaign committee and, later, the government.

But those affected by Modi's style of functioning continue to look upon him as their mentor. 

There was no formal reaction from the party to the old guard, who enjoyed senior posts before Modi took the national stage. 

But BJP spokesman Nalin Kohli told CNN-IBN that a review of the Bihar result was already on and the party would respond to Advani and others if needed.

  

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  • tony sequeira, mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    The Gujarat Model that was touted from roof tops for the parliamentary elections and raised nation wide expectations is summarised as follows
    1. Love Jihad.
    2. Attack Churches and burn some of them.No more Babri Masjids.
    3. Those against the BJP and RSS must go to Pakistan.
    4. Those eating Beef must go to Pakistan.
    5. Birth Control for Minorities.
    7. This can be summed up as the development agenda promised by MODI.

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  • Bollu, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Before election BJP said development but after election only went after cows and buffaloes that is why people decided to confine the party to cow shed.

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  • Praveen, Udupi

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    I cant even find one comments from Cheddis...Already hiding in rat holes.

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  • Pedro Sam, Mulky

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    These sort of discussions can only happen in a democratic party. I do not think congress leaders will tolerate such situation. Glad read some sane comments from women readers in particular. No doubt BJP is in a bad shape but I see the readers too indulging in unnecessary name calling. Some one said illiterate HRD minister. She has come up from a humble beginning. She is an excellent artist. Please respect women.As for as possible let us indulge in taking sides. Let us post bipartisan comments. Let us be watch dogs for both BJP as well as Congress and post positive suggestions

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Set an example by criticizing the Chhadis too who indulge in name calling Sonia Italian waitress. Respect women huh ? Bipartisan huh ?
    When one wishes to preach first practice. Preaching is easy.

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  • Ahmed, DOH / IXE

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    If defeat entire BJP to be blamed, if win only Modi / Shah to be blamed. What rubbish logic is this. This shows the dictatorship

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  • Ajith, mlr

    Thu, Nov 12 2015

    What was congress fate in last election......did they blame Sonia or Rahul

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  • Stan, Udupi/ Dubai

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Time to retire and not to give margdarshan to gennext.

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  • VG, Bengaluru

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Ha Ha, they are giving Margadarshan!

    But will Modi-Shah-Jaitely learn?

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  • Ahmed, DOH / IXE

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    BJP has only 1 darshan...RSS darshan.

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    People say Cong is bad, but when BJP rules for 18 months, Cong starts to look like a SAINT...courtesy RSS, Sadhvi, Swami, Babas, Sanghis, BD's Cow DUNG.

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  • santhosh, mangaluru

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    This is similar to Janardhan Poojary giving statements against Siddhu. No impact , no value

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  • Premnath K., Bangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    It is not only shameful to have a illiterate HRD minister in a country which proved as world's intellectual
    store house !

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  • Amith, udupi

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    one communal hero finding fault in 2 communal heros..advaniji first tell us temple kab aur kahan banayenge? what happened to 1500 crores collected during your rath yatra ?? all u bunch of jokers came to power with lies ..

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  • Amin Bhoja, Patte / Riyadh

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Before the Bihar election the revolt was within the BJP camp but now the revolt is within the open ground itself !!!

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  • Anti Corrupt, Mangalore, Kuwait

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Do not be surprised if Amit Shah will be expelled from the party soon. The senior stalwarts are hell bent on doing this as they have been sidelined. Eventually Jaitley and There could be a divide between Advani and Modi factions.

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  • JANARDHANA ACHARYA, BANGALORE/UDUPI/GURUGUNDI

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    No Doubt that Modi is own and became PM by Modi Wave. That Wave length was a like a Sunami and had high expectations. These high expectation are not having the answers at raise nations bcs they want to sell some products at high margins and make money in contrary those products can be done by Indian Majors. We need to create value additions and ensure the proper role within the country and not stunken drainage and potholed city and diry India Image. The best of best areas in India can not match some east asian cities.

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  • John R Lobo, Kaikamba

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Central BJP's fate will be same like Karnataka BJP.....

    In Karnataka, there is only one Eashwarappa....In central it is more than Ten....who all done MA Phd in " Non sense Talk"....

    During the time Vajapayee Govt, MM Joshi headed HRD ministry...who handled without any issue and controversy....Now US educated Saas kI Bahu running one way or another Controversy....

    This Bahu now targeting ICSE Board, bcoz majority Christian owned school affiliated into ICSE.....

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  • rony, bahrain

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    its shame to have a serial actor to have HRD Minister.

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  • ಪ್ರೇಮಿಗಳು ಸಾರ್, ಪ್ರೇಮಿಗಳು

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    ಚಡ್ಡಿ-ಭಾಗವತ್-ಢಾಕು-ಫೇಕು ನೆ ಸಾರೆ ಕಾ ಸಾರೆ ಭಾಜಪಾ ಕಾ ಸತ್ಯನಾಸ್ ಕಿಯಾ ಹೈ ರೆ ಭಾಯಾ! ಅಪ್ನಾ ಗಡ್ಡಾ ಖುದ್ ಕೋದ್ ರಹೆ೦ ಹೈ೦. ಆಗೆ ಆಗೆ ದೆಖೋ ಹೊತಾ ಹೈ ಕ್ಯಾ? ಇನ್ ಕೆ ಬುರೆ ದಿನ್ ಆಗಯೆ ಹೈ ಭಾಯಾ... ಅಬ್ ಜೋರ್ ಸೆ ಅ೦ದರ್ ಹೀ ಅ೦ದರ್ ಶುರು ಹೋಗಯಾ ಡಿಶೂ೦...ಡಿಶೂ೦..

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    After this dishoom dishoom by veterans - Some of the top leaders face who lead BJP in Bihar election become HANUMAN face.
    lol

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    DEAR CHAAIWAALA P.M., TO A.M.:

    KINDLY STOP SUIT-BOOT INDIA LOOT AND WORLD TOUR.

    WHERE IS MY 15 LAKHS PROMISED BY YOU.

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  • AB, K.S.A

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    All is not well

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  • Danish, Udupi/dubai

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Now here commenting only real Citizens of India. The fake communal chelas disappear. We people support every body those who able to give good government irrespective of party.

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  • Lily Grace, Mangalore/Mumbai/Dubai

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Glad to hear voices from these seniors of BJP. Its time to clear up the mess and remove the responsible leaders from the post, if at all want to serve the people of this country with peace and harmony.

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  • Rohan, Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Lilyji ask this BJP seniors to enjoy as much as they can with the fly and grand children's.

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  • Praveen, Udupi

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    This is just the small beginning. Wait for another 2 months for the real show. Rajastan Madhya Pradesh Haryana and a large number of MP from UP and Karnataka will form one camp and challenge the Modi Govt. Real Khel jaldi shuru honevala hei...Ab sirf stage setting. Full entertainment guaranteed till 2019. 31% people who voted for BJP full Paise Vasool for this grand entertainment.

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  • ilyas, qatar

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Domabarata kab chalu hoga?

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  • Ahmed, DOH / IXE

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Chalu hogaya bhai. 17 months hogaya. Iss dombarata mein bandar hai Modi / Shah / Jetley aur unko khilaane wala Mohan Bhagawat hai.

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  • V V Gladys Noronha , Kuwait

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Great to hear these voices from the BJP. For the past 18 months after BJP came into power at centre , basic human rights were denied to the BJP's own by 56 inches of pain.
    V V Gladys Noronha
    Kuwait - Bajpe - Bahrain

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    The bihar verdict is not the defeat of Namo lead BJP,

    ....it is the defeat of Parivar ideology. Sanghi is a den of unelected & the unelectible working in the name of religion to enjoy the political lust.

    Poor & gullible Hindu's blindly follow the hatred diktat's of this parivar think tank.

    Parivar ideology is to unite Hindu's by promoting hate mongering against a section of fellow Hindustani's..., may be they are successful in the short run but in the long run i doubt..., Not a good thing to happen to the Secular credentials of Hindustan.

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  • Harry DSOUZA, KODAGU / MANGALORE

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    STILL YOU PEOPLE ARE UNLIKELY TO GET ANY EXECUTIVE / GOVERNING POSTS. R.I.P.!!

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  • Orton, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Bandar ka haat mein khilona diya toh aise hi hota hai.

    I think Mr. Yediyurappa is better than Mr. Shah.

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  • G Ravikiran Rai, Kotekar

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Fake encounter specialist Amit Shah is actually out on Bail in Shohrabuddin Case. So, all BJP elders should be careful about him, and if possible try to cancel his bail and send him back where he actually belongs. Otherwise the life of these BJP elders is not safe.
    Why Lalu Prasad Yadav is silent on this Amit Shah Bail. Why he is not putting pressure on Central Govt to see that CBI Prosecution continues and till then Amit Shah is put behind bar so that he cannot influence the CBI which has investigated the case and charge-sheeted Amit Shah & Banjara.

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  • KRPrabhu, Bluru

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Modi Shah duo did not learn lesson from Delhi debacle.Went on hijacking BJP party ignoring veterans like Advaniji,Murali Manohar Joshiji who are responsible for building the party from scratch.Shah is a bachcha in front of Advaniji.People are pained when Advaniji was sidelined from main stream by Modi Shah duo.Modi atleast was making pranamas to his Guru Advaniji where ever one to one meet but the daku faced Amit Shah never showing respect to the great leader.We have seen Shah was directing Advaniji to occupy the last chair on the dias in one of the functions.What a painful act! At least god has shown the way now...Bihar debacle was the direct result of Shah and Modi's arrogance and dictatorship.When Modi met Advaniji yesterday offering flowers I expected Modi will touch the feet of Advaniji as a atonement of his sins to the veteran.Never happened.Now I wish that Modi should and must fall at the feet of Advaniji and seek his pardon for all nonsense he and Shah has done in last 17 months.
    BJP was formed by Advaniji and Vajpayeeji for the betterment of people.But RSS a bunch of few uneducated leaders at the top level intruded the admn matteres of BJP and brought all ill fame for the party.RSS has record it damaged the BJP rule....Morarjee Desai govt was brought to down RSS,Vajpaee's NDA govt which the best was made to end without completing full term of 5 years.Karnataka's BJP govt headed by Yeddy was made unpopulor by these uneducated RSS leaders by making crores by corrupt manners using Yeddy.Let RSS do its functions on its own without entering politics and let the Gvot functions as per peoples mandate/agenda.Ultimately govt is for the people and by the people..this is the need of the hour.When govt targets common man and favours corporates and bid people debacle in the election is certain....

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  • John R Lobo, Kaikamba

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Hats off Prabhu Maam,

    Last year I went to India, I met GSB Shop owner to whom I know last 42 years....he told me that these paadaries ( BD's ) don't know what is their future....look at us, we Cant do Biz on Religion...we should not mix Religion with Biz and Politics....How true it is...

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  • For Justice, Abu Dhabi / Ubar

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    After all this old boy L K A is not a saint but the the founder father of communal disharmony in India who is now barking against his students especially two bright students FEKU & DAKU.

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  • Ramakrishna A k, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    ಮೋದಿಗೊಂದು ಕಾಲ, ಮುದಿಯರಿಗೊಂದು ಕಾಲ.
    ಈಗ ಮೋದಿಯ ಮುರಿದ ಕಾಲು, ಮುದಿಯರ ಕೈ ಮೇಲು.
    ಗೆದ್ದಲು ಕಟ್ಟಿದ ಹುತ್ತದಲ್ಲಿ ವಿಶಕಾರಿ ಹಾವಿನ ವಾಸ.
    ಮುದಿಯರು ಬೆವರು ಸುರಿಸಿ ಕಟ್ಟಿದ ಪಕ್ಷದಲ್ಲಿ ಫೇಕು-ಡಾಕು ವಾಸ.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    Ye To Hona Hi Tha ...

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  • Well wisher, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    After a big loss they still not discuss or reform on their main communal mind hatred speech n attacking on other religion.Now the Christmas is nearing. All have to wait and see what tactic they will play. We all still remember TV serial actors role.
    Majority Indians citizens never support any communal minded party. For all these rss is the only one main reason.
    Jai Hind.

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  • Jafer, Ullal

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    All Modi Bhakts very soon will start ChaddiWapsi protest because they don't have anything other than RSS chaddi

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    No option .., ultimately they have to throw the cheddi's also, .. coz it is stinking so much all around.

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  • Ummar, Udupi/Dubai

    Tue, Nov 10 2015


    Conflict already started within BJP. So it seems "ache din" starts for Indians. Well done keep going.

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  • Rosario Fernandes, Kallianpur

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    Ye tho honahi tha. this is the beginning of an end of Modi/Amit show. They think India is in Gujarat. Sorry sirs, Gujarat is in India. Please understand the difference.

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    All these veteran biggies with the exception of Shourie chose to remain mum when those dumb things such as beef ban, crackers in pak were meted out. None of these morons could foresee the implications either. Now after the horse has bolted they are engaged in the futile activity of closing the stable door.

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  • For Justice, Abu Dhabi / Ubar

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    Ye tho shuruvath hain sirjee, aage dekho kya honewala hain....

    These guys were waiting for these moments....Even these are not at all SAINTS especially Advani who is the father of communal disharmony in this country...

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