Has any court heard a case on origin of gods, asks SC


New Delhi, Aug 7 (IANS): Has the question on origin or birth of religious figures or gods been raised in any court in the world? The Supreme Court posed this to the counsel of Ram Lalla Virajman during the second day of hearing in the Ayodhya dispute on Wednesday.

While the hearing traversed through the various aspects of the Hindu faith and philosophy, K. Parasaran, counsel representing Ram Lalla, proclaimed: "Faith itself is evidence". Worshipers believed in Lord Ram, and his birthplace, he said.

"The unshakeable faith in Lord Ram in itself is the evidence that the asthan is the birthplace of Ram", Parasaran submitted before the Constitution Bench, headed by Chief Justice of India (CJI) Ranjan Gogoi.

While Parasaran drew a large canvas of philosophical aspect, citing Ramayana and Mahabharat to buttress his arguments, the court asked, "Whether Jesus Christ was born at Bethlehem? Has the question on origin/birthplace of any other religious figure been raised before any court in the world."

Parasaran replied that he would have to check this.

Drawing the court's attention to the deeper significance of faith, Parasaran argued the believers' faith was not misplaced in attributing the brithplace

To this, Justice S.A. Bobde queried, "have the idols placed in Babri mosque on December 22-23, 1949, been carbon-dated?"

Parasaran will continue his arguments on Thursday.

The title suit in the matter has been pending before the Supreme Court Since 2010. Two sides have moved the apex court against the Allahabad High Court verdict dividing the disputed land into three equal parts -- one-third each for the Hindus, the Muslims and the Nirmohi Akhara.

The apex court has initiated the hearing on 14 appeals, including the suits filed by the Ram Lalla Virajman, the Nirmohi Akhara and the Sunni Wakf board and four others.

  

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  • Dan M, Dubai / Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    Jesus explains origin of God

    Message to Joseph of Jesus and Mary.

    Who do the people say that I am?

    Luke 9:18-24

    Inspiration of the Holy Spirit - From the Sacred Heart of Jesus

    "I still ask the same question to you now. Who do you think that I am? Who do people say that I am?

    Enlightened by the knowledge of the Holy Scriptures, by the tradition of the Church, and aided by the faith in your heart you must allow the Holy Spirit to reveal to you Who I am.

    I am who I am, the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega, the One who was, the One is and will be forever. I am the source of life for all living things; I am the Light of the world, the truth and the hope of everyone.

    I am the vine and you are one of the branches, so you may see that cut off from me you are nothing; you must understand that you need to be in me so that I may be in you and you may live on and on.

    Without me there would not be existence, since I am the source of existence. I am existence itself. I am the Master of time, space and Eternity. Matter and Spirit are in my hands. I am the Supreme Architect of the Universe, the mind that controls reality.

    It is very complex for the mind of man to understand the holy mysteries that explain me, and yet with the help of the Holy Spirit you come a step closer every time you come to me in prayer and every time you do something to please me.

    While I was in the world, I loved humanity without limits; I became the victim that expiates the sins of the whole world by my sacrifice in Calvary.

    Since I am sharing all my possessions with you and am offering the gift of immortality and eternal joy; it is only fair that I make you partaker of my cross for a little while, so that by contemplating my afflictions and sharing in my sufferings you purify yourself to be worthy to be with me forever.

    Do not oppose my Will but accept all my providential gifts, including the cross. By living a life of imitation of my virtues, you will be preparing solid grounds for your future life. I will be the Good Shepherd leading you through green pastures, protecting you from the storms of life and taking you by the hand to the promised Holy Land.

    Follow me!"

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  • NN, NN

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    Faith and logic are different. If you believe that there are apples growing on Mango tree, it is your faith. Atheist also have equal say in their belief but court cannot rule whether or not there is God.

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  • Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    You are the temple of God What kind of temple you would build for me.
    - says the Lord God.
    My birth place should be in your heart and your heart must be contrite, humble and soft not like a stony heart .
    - says the Lord God.

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  • Sunil Pinto, Dubai/ Udupi

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    In other words the supreme court is asking whether anybody has questioned in any court the exact location of the birth address of any god be it hindu, muslim or christian..

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  • Khabib, Manglore

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    Exclude muslim..

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  • David Pais, Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    y do u claim jerusalem which belongs 1st 2 jews?????????

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Nashville

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    I like Valmiki's Stories ...

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  • Sampath, India

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    Yes...it was real life senerios...which gave inspiration to many to write bedtime stories....hope you understood...

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  • Shankar, Mangaluru

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    I like Bible!

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  • Alphonse Rodrigues, Udupi

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

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  • Dan M, Dubai / Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    Bible = Book Indeed Book of Love Eternal.
    Bible = Book Indeed Book of Life Eternal.
    Bible = Book Indeed Book of Law Eternal.
    Bible = Book Indeed Book of Light (knowledge) Eternal.

    Bible =elbib= Eternal life bought in book
    Bible =elbib= Ever lasting book in books

    Bible = Body Indeed Body of Lamb Eternal.
    Bible = Blood Indeed Blood of Lamb Eternal.

    Please read Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke in sequence and find Eternal Life in Gospel of John.

    Rosary itself is a Bible we contemplate Divine Redemption Mysteries through it.

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  • vivia pinto, Bijai/Calgary

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    Peace be upon you

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  • SmR, Karkala

    Thu, Aug 08 2019

    The Supreme Court of India judiciary standard is falling each day. The Babri Masjid-RamJanmaboombi dispute is for the title suit and it is not for the origin God.

    The court should give a ruling considering the below fact;

    1. How on the night of December 22-23, 1949, Lord Ram's idols miraculously appeared inside the Babri mosque in Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh's?
    2.1528 Babar’s commander, Mir Baqi, builds the mosque. If the entire region under the Mughal ruling why the presently disputed land chosen demolishing the most sacred religious place of Hindus?
    3. How did the Supreme Court of India come to the conclusion and not going by the sacred book of Valmiki Ramayana to find the exact place of birth?
    4. Why the carbon dating of the archeological evidence is not put in the national archive to investigate more about the real fact?

    The -Babri Masjid-Ayodhya dispute has been an emotive issue for decades and mired in a slew of legal suits involving Hindu and Muslim religious groups. The Muslim has already given assurance that they will go by the verdict of the court. But it is the duty of the highest Court of India provides justice on the real fact, not on emotive issues.

    Our nation can't afford more bloodbath in the name of religion. The nation needs jobs, security, peace, a stronger economy, good foreign relations, health care, green basket, technologically advance and so on.

    Jai Hind

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  • Dan M, Dubai / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 07 2019

    Jesus explains about creation.

    Our Lord's message to John Leary

    Saturday, December 17, 2016:
    Jesus said: “My people, you believe that I created the earth and the rest of the universe according to the Book of Genesis. There are some people who believe in the big bang theory, but it does not explain where all the hydrogen came from to make up the stars. I am the First Cause of everything. In today’s Gospel reading you are seeing My genealogy from Abraham down to St. Joseph according to St. Matthew. In St. Luke’s Gospel you see all the generations from St. Joseph down to Adam, the first man, who I created. You have also seen Darwin’s theory of evolution, but there is no way that mutations can change the chromosome counts. If evolution was true, you would still be seeing changes in the animals. But there are no leaps in chromosome counts, because I created everything from the beginning. Scientists, who promote these theories, are mostly atheists who do not believe in My existence. I am still providing miracles for you every day in your births, where I create the life spirit in the soul of every baby at conception. There are so many things that man does not know about life, and when you cannot explain something in reality, you develop strange theories that have no proof. This is why you call the big bang and evolution theories because there is no proof. My believers understand that I am their Creator, and I am worthy of their thanks and their love for creating them. I love all of mankind and all of My creations, because you are My sons and daughters that I love enough to die for on My cross.”

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  • Dan M, Dubai / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 07 2019

    The Epiphany of the Lord

    As revealed to Joseph of Jesus and Mary

    Falling down they adored him; and opening their treasures, they offered him gifts; gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

    Matthew 2:1-12

    The Jewish people were expecting the Messiah for thousands of years.
    However, my coming into the world was a humble event very obscure to them,
    but for the light given off by a star.

    I am the light of the world that came to give light to those in darkness. The people who had the light of God through the Holy Scriptures were living in darkness just as the rest of the world.

    Only the humble servants of God and a few shepherds received the knowledge of my coming and participated in the coming of the great light that would overcome darkness.

    In the same way three very special humble men were chosen from different cultures to perceive in wisdom the great event that was taking place, the coming of the Saviour of the world.

    Just as the rain comes for the good and the bad, and the sun shines to virtuous and sinners alike, I have come for everyone. Every human being has been made in the image of God, but sin has destroyed that image. I am the Lord who forgives sins and restores the image of God in every person.

    The enemy has always been around trying to destroy the work of God, Herod was preparing to destroy the New King, but the plan of God has always been superior to the plan of the wicked.

    The three wise men represent all the peoples of the world, who live in darkness and need my light to survive spiritually. I accepted the homage of these three humble men who went out of their ways to give glory to God by accepting the coming of His Son into the world.

    The offering of the incense represents faith in me, Jesus, the Son of the Living God.
    This is the greatest gift any one can offer me. This I accept through your prayers and your acceptance of my Word and the Church I left to represent me.

    The offering of myrrh represents the suffering that I endured and the sufferings that all those who believe in me must suffer for my sake. It is the cross, which is given to everyone of my followers and requires the acceptance of the Will of God.

    The offering of gold represents the treasure of praise, adoration, honour and thanksgiving offered to me, your Lord, God and Saviour. It is the gift that I receive from every soul who appreciates that I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.

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