Taking Extra Passengers on Mumbai - Mlore Flight: 9 AI Staff Derostered


Mumbai, Jul 10 (PTI) Air India has derostered nine employees, including two pilots, for taking on board three passengers in excess of the aircraft capacity on its flight two months ago and begun its own investigation to pin down others responsible for the violation of safety and security rules.

The incident occurred on May 5 when its Mumbai-Mangalore flight IC-179 took off with three passengers in addition to the 172 passenger capacity of the Airbus A-321 aircraft operating the service, an AI spokesperson said.

One of the three extra passengers was also seated inside the cockpit on the 'jump seat' (the third seat besides the two meant for pilot and co-pilot) in complete violation of security guidelines, while the other two were accommodated on seats meant for the cabin crew.

These additional passengers were issued manual boarding passes as the computerised ones cannot be generated after a flight is completely booked.

The incident came to light when Directorate General of Civil Aviation was carrying out a probe into an incident involving the same flight at Mumbai airport in which the aircraft was towed back even before the aircraft doors were closed, damaging the aerobridge attached to it.

Acknowledging the incident, the spokesman said the commander of the flight, the co-pilot, a ground engineer, a driver of the tow tractor and five commercial staff were derostered.

  

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  • George, Dubai

    Thu, Jul 16 2009

    I feel that the Pliot was hand in glove with the so called extra passengers, how could the pliot allow such thing in the cockpit where he is the boss and not the Airlines management or anybody else.

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  • Frederick Pinto, Shirva

    Sun, Jul 12 2009

    This is a shocking news that extra three passengers seated at the cock-pit. It is really a dangerours.Extra passengers can be allowed on "Jump Seat" either on the pantry area or in the cabin sidways. In the Cock-Pit only allowed Captain, Co-Pilots and flight engineer. Allowing extra passenger only permission of Captain and Station Manager.It is not a big problem that extra passenger on board.

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore /Doha

    Sun, Jul 12 2009

    Lol!!!!!! I wont be surprised when air-hostesses start shouting MANGALORE MANGALORE MANGALORE MANGALORE..POI RIGHTS POI!!! something similar to our city bus plights! :) :)

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  • mohan, usa

    Sun, Jul 12 2009

    Most irresponsible dangerous behavior. I am sure there are hundreds of these and only one percent comes out.  It is really funny some one commented it was like bus driver taking a passenger for half price other comment by one who had legitimate ticket and first denied because he was 76 minutes before flight time and after giving 500 rupees he was given a seat extra seat. No wonder Air Iindia is in such deep financial touble.

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  • Walter Lobo, Bajpe/Boston, US

    Sun, Jul 12 2009

    Finally, unlawful activities of Air India are being exposed by their own management. AI has stooped below the level of worst airline in the world, compromisng safety rules. Excess passengers could have caused the airline it''s airworthiness while flying. This type of activities shall NEVER be tolerated and the employees who engaged in such conduct shall be dismissed from the airline industry as they do not know the meaning of "Public Safety".

    They compromised public safety and degraded AI''s reputation, not that AI enjoyed any reputation in the world. Now he should question if AI maintains their equipment in flying order. The tire burst from Dubai is an exemple of poor maintenance now what else is not being done or being done in violation of the regulations? USA should investigage AI maintenance and airworthiness of international flights to USA.

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  • Prakash Rebello, Kundapur/ Dubai

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    even for me AI provided manual boarding pass as a extra passenger from BOM - DXB sector two years ago using cabin crew seat with extra 2 passengers.I was having conformed ticket and AI denied foR bording because i reached check in boarding counter just 75 minutes before and there were two flights to DXB 25 minutes gap and edjusting passengers in two flights.As usual passenger has a right to check in before 1hour sheduled departure, i argued with senior AI staff for rights to travelthen they provided manual Boarding pass to me and co passenger. Later we came to know that they issuied our boarding passes to AI staff who travels free or discount ticket.without conforming they d us as non show before 1 hour of departure.Favouring their staff and denying service to full paid customer. And without knowledge of rules & regulations of DGCA and depend on circumstances we cant comment on excess on board passengers are allowed or not.But its sure that these things are happen and only few are come in limelight.

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  • shihab, IXE/DMM

    Sun, Jul 12 2009

    I think pilot was a bus driver between mangalore-bangalore. passengers are used to catch the bus from pumpwell by paying half price( to drivers)

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Sun, Jul 12 2009

    Since we are all in a rush to catch the early plane to reach the destination, we may be forced to bend the rules of ethics, and and may try to grease the palm of some crooked officials. I had to face undue delays due to my hardcore conviction of not giving bribes to anybody.

    My brother in-law and myself made the trip to India with our families in AI (1988). We both lost, half of the bags while reached in Trivandrum. When we tried to file a complaint of " lost baggage", nobody wanted to do the job, but one gentleman Mr. Dennis took the job cheerfully. We got the bags after a few days.

    The pain at the customs for the lost bags, and the extra travel etc were too unbearable. The return tickets of both of our families were re-confirmed, but my brother in-law''s name was not in the list of Bombay-NY flight. We tried to reason with the AI employees but no friendly response, however, when my brother in-law gave Rs. 500 to an employee, he got the seat. What a miracle working employee while he got the money! AI was totally a government enterprise like any other government office of India.

    If all the the former AI passengers will start writing their bitter expereince with AI, it will take thousands of pages to cover the whole episode of corruption and inefficiency of our great national airlines.

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  • Antony Crasta, Mangalore/Sydney-Australia

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    Referring to Jawar D`Souza`s comment, now that the matter under discussion has come to light, let us do something to rectify the situation, and not just ignore it. Also, I can see Jawar has a negative view on the subject of corruption. He thinks that just because everyone else give bribes to get their things done, it`s OK for him/us as well to do so. If everyone thinks like as he does, there won`t be any change at all. Make a small beginning yourself Jawar even at bit of a disadvantage, and then see if it had any effect. It`s like if we stop giving alms to beggars, they will ultimately stop begging!I would like to cite an example here: About two years ago I was flying from Singapore to Sydney and carrying two bottles of Duty Free Scotches which I was entitled to carry and the Singapore Customs allowed me to take them in. I had to change the Airline at Brunei and the authorities there, however, refused permission. The Officers on Duty told me that was the law there, but they would allow me provided I give them A$ 20, which was meant to be some sort of bribe. I simply refused to pay and left behind the bottles with them, much to my dismay and disappointment.

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  • Harin Prabhu, Mangalore

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    How can such incidents happen with an international carrier of this magnitude? Is there no repect for rules and regulations? Heads should roll.

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  • tanzeem , mangalore/romania

    Sun, Jul 12 2009

    Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! god damn what a funny news......I used to see this kind of thing happening in kSRTC buses on the way to bangalore..with people being taken in and offered seats next to the driver and now its the planes..wonderful!!! sau main se assi be-iman phir bhi mera bharat mahan

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  • SKM, Udupi/Dubai

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    Many of Daji readers recently commented that AirIndia is the Safe Airlines compared to other International airlines.( tyre burst of Air India Express in Sharjah) .I feel carrying passengers in this way is a MAJOR MAJOR violation and UNSAFE ACT by AirIndia personnels. Everyone involved in this violation should be punished and removed from the service.

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  • Jawar D''Souza, M''Lore/Doha

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    God Know''s how many such incident''s have gone un noticed, as this has come to light we know about it. We just write comment''s saying corruption should not be there, think sincerely if we want some thing to be get done, we will be the frist to pay the bribe and get the thing''s done or else we know it wiil be kept pending will any of you be able to help. Talk about the reality not about dreams.

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  • Prakash D''Souza, Mangalore

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    Though We say our india is growing..We will not grow completely until and unless Corruption is not rooted out from india. We indians are so selfish that we want to make money in the shortcut way. Our india is in the fourth ranking in corruption.

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  • Najeeb, Udupi/Dubai

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    There is no difference between KSRTC and Air india well civil Aviation has to take big action among this thats what there is always technical problem in flights.Indian Brothers this Flights are public property not a private flight.

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  • shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    Air India is national carrier and owned by govt of India. Normally the govt run enterprises dont bother about the public. Here the crew has acted so differently than their usual behaviour. Out of compassion and humane grounds they have decided to ferry these extra 3 passengers, its not a big deal. The pilot must have taken load and safety factor before making such decission. Dont go by law here, please go by the intentions.

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  • Antony Crasta, Mangalore/Sydney-Australia

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    Unfortunately, it`s been going on everywhere - in the long distance overnight buses, trains, etc., all the time - so, what`s the BIG DEAL if it has caught up now in the Airlines industry!? Things will not change until and unless we totally discard and reject our practice and culture of bribe taking and corruption, at all levels. In this regard, we, the Indians, can learn a great lesson from the Western Countries like Australia, UK and USA, where such things rarely happen!

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  • Ash,

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    Really interesting & Shocking new. May be The pilot was familiar with the Tourist bus Tactics .

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  • aadil, mangalore/kuwait

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    This is rediculous, we frinds were always joking about IA & AI is like bus good job they proved it right.we need AI BUS KUWAIT TO MANGALORE.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Sat, Jul 11 2009

    Many other stories will pop up later on about AI how AI was used as a mule by many people to get rich through the back door. Sometimes empty seats were kept in the NY sector in the old days, simply to get money by offering seats to those passengers who might have failed to re-confirm, or even to the confirmed passengers.

    In 1993, since I had to change a day to fly from Trivandrum to Bombay in business class, the re-comfirming agent put me in a waiting list with the intention of getting some money, but when I was boarded, I was the only passenger in the business class. This was AI''s modus operandi.

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  • Ramprakash, Mumbai

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    This is a Guinnes record by Air India. If possible they would try one more record in Dubai Mangalore route that''s acomodating some passengers in toilets and cargo hold? because this route is more attractive in lieu of high fare? Public sector Indian aviation is only a name to tarnish the image! Let us hope Mangalore airport will be served with all airlines.

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  • Anil Moras, Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    Oh yes, Mangalore / Bombay buses and sitting on the biscuit "boxes" in isles.... Air India smells again!

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  • prasad, yermal

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    this incident recallls my past memories...we used to come like that in banglore to udupi buses..we catch these buses at jallallicross..

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  • syed, Shivamoga

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    Such type of incidents should be dealt severly as this is directly realted to the safety of the passengers/crew members

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  • RAGHUVEER, MADANTHYAR/DUBAI

    Fri, Jul 10 2009

    NOW WHO IS THE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, MAY BE THESE PASSENGERS ARE RELATIVES OF THE CAPTAIN OR THE ANY HI FI POLITICAL LEADER, THIS THINGS REMIND ME THAT IN PEAK SEASON BOMBAY MANGALORE BUS DRIVERS DOING THE SAME THING, HERE BUS DRIVERS POCKETING THE MONEY, IN FLIGHT WHO POCKETING THE MONEY?

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