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UAE expats want CAA revoked

  •   Tue, Dec 31 2019 01:25:06 PM

Abu Dhabi, Dec 31 (IANS): United Arab Emirates (UAE)-based Indian expats have submitted a memorandum to the Indian Embassy here expressing concerns over the controversial Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), saying that it "propagates a divisive society", it was reported.

As many as 30 people from the Indian community met officials at the Eembassy on Sunday to voice their opposition against the CAA.

Speaking to Gulf News after handing over the "Letter Of Opposition To CAA", Abdullah Khan, an Abu Dhabi resident, said: "I am worried about my family in India. I tried to call them in Azamgarh in Uttar Pradesh but couldn't get through as the communication lines and Internet were shut down after protests over CAA.

"The Indian community here decided to register its humble request to abolish the law which divides society where people of all religions otherwise live together peacefully."

The letter also requests the Indian authorities to strike down the "discriminatory, divisive and unconstitutional" Act.

Sanjay Manohar Pancha, an Abu Dhabi resident who also turned up at the embassy, said: "I would like that all people be given their equal due as per the Constitution of India, whether they are Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs or Christians."

Another resident said that the CAA was "against our constitution and we demand it is scrapped immediately".

The CAA, which was enacted on December 12, provides citizenship to non-Muslim minorities from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan who arrived in India on or before December 31, 2014.

Violent protests have erupted all across India against the controversial Act.
  

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    I am not an expert, please read CAA & NRC carefully, get all information before jumping into conclusion that its against one religion. Political parties like CONgress used minorities for their vote bank & now they cannot compete with Modis popularity with dumb Pappu that's why they use this as their weapon. People should understand this, once upon time CONGis wanted the same Law but now they oppose by fuelling religious touch into this.

    Did anyone question CONgis why they supported then & why oppose now? We need competition in the election but do not need religious fights in an election by propagating the lie.

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  • Rishi, Thane/ Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 01 2020

    If you are not an expert, then dont try to be expert

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    What's wrong with CAA;
    1. No Indians will lose their citizenship ( any religion)
    2. Persecuted minorities from Pakistan, Bangladesh & Afghanistan will get citizenship.
    3. Only Muslims from 3 countries will not get citizenship because all are belongs to the majority in their country.
    4. If 3 Conutires Muslims need Indian citizenship, they can apply & they will get if they are eligible as Adnan Samy got Indian Citizenship.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Manvit,

    1. You said No Indian will loose their Citizenship

    Answer: Yes, no Indian will loose their Citizenship as of now.

    But in the next stage after the NRC is over, the CAA acts like a Parachute (life jacket) distributed selectively to Indian citizens. You may ask how? NRC is everyone (all religion people) being pushed out of the plane as they have to prove their nationality all over again. But Muslims don’t get the life jacket of CAA (as CAA doesn’t give nationality to Muslims only who fail in NRC).

    Distributing life jacket is not the problem. Giving them only to a few and pushing everyone off the plane is the problem.

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    First of all, I really appreciate your kind reply. We need to discuss & debate it not arguing in the street.

    You are wrong again, how Hindus get life jacket when NRC comes into existence? For those who get citizenship from CAA will only get a life jacket as per you.
    If tomorrow I could not get NRC documents as a Hindu, then I cannot apply for CAA because I need to prove that I come from other countries which is not possible. So I have get any certificates for me & my parents or get any 3 localities who knew my parents with an affidavit. This applies to every citizen irrespective of being Hindu, Muslim or Christian. Please remove that from your mind that life jacket will get except Muslims. Every India has to prove & there will difficulties only those who are girijanas, aadivasis & daily laborers who has not even studied in any school.

    Even NRC guidelines are not framed as which documents would be accepted which is still under negotiation.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    i will reply in sha Allah. It is prayer time now.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Manvit,

    You siad: If tomorrow I could not get NRC documents as a Hindu, then I cannot apply for CAA because I need to prove that I come from other countries which is not possible.

    Any person staying in India is either Indian or Illegal Immigrant (apart form other tourists and so on.) So, if some Non Muslim is not proven as Indian by NRC; what else he can be? He has to come under Illegal Immigrant. Now, if he is a Non Muslim, he has to get the Nationality as Mr. Amit Shah has said in Parliament that there wont be any documents asked from Illegal Non Muslim Immigrants. So on what authority you can say that these illegal Immigrants have to prove their Nationality?.

    Now take the Classic Case of NAGA SADHUS that explains the flaws of NRC & CAA: We definitely know about Naga Sadhus who reach at Kumbh Mela gatherings. We also know it very well that these Sadhus are completely detached / disassociated from the worldly matters/connections and spend their entire life in the Mountains or so. Can we really expect any document from them?. So, are they also considered as Illegal Immigrants?. Can you accept that they are from Pakistan/ Bangladesh/ Afghanistan? Still they will be given Citizenship? If so, On what basis?.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    You siad 2 things:

    (1) One has to get any certificates for me & my parents or get any 3 localities who knew my parents with an affidavit.
    (2)Even NRC guidelines are not framed as which documents would be accepted which is still under negotiation.

    My answer to (1): Who told you about these things (rules about affidavit or certificates) when you youself told in (2) that NRC guidelines are not yet framed?
    Also, you said in (1) that you need affidavit from 3 localities who knew your Parents; my question is how can they have the right to give affidavit when they themselves are not considered as Citizens until complete NRC list is finalized.
    My other question is why are you favourig NRC when the guidelines are not yey finalized according to you? Every citizen fears about NRC because we see the NRC guidelines of Assam as the basis.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    You said :No Indians will lose their citizenship ( any religion)


    Answer: It is not about loosing Nationality. It is about showing selective compassion based on religion and Nationality of Refugees, selected arbitrarily. You may say that they are not selected arbitrarily; they are selected on the basis of Persecution on the minorities. Then, if the nationality is given only on the basis of persecution, then why Rohingya Muslims are left out from Nationality? Even the UN says that the Rohingya genocide is the worst in the recent history.
    When 2 persons are sinking in the boat, can anyone save a person after asking his religion?. It is very cruel and against the Basic Human right of equality.

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Why you need to provide Nationality for those who are in an Islamic state & not facing any religious persecution??

    If they want to shift to India for getter life then they should apply for Indian citizenship under normal rules & regulations. We cannot open for every Pakistani or Bangladeshi to come to India & acquire our resources.

    If CAA only for Hindus by neglecting other minorities in Pakistan, Bangladesh & Afghanistan then even I would have objected to that.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Why not Rohingya minorities selected my friend? Are they not persecuted? Are they not in Minority in their country?
    Why Tamil Hindus staying in India are not selected? Are they not in persecuted Minority in Sri Lanka?
    Why existing law of Assam Accord is being overridden?
    When the government contradicts its own reason for allowing nationality, can we believe them?
    What is the need Law when the current laws can provide Nationality to even Pakistani Muslim Adnan Sami? Is he persecuted in Pakistan?

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  • Sayeed, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Ok fine we are not opposing it.let them get the citizenship. But why we should submit our documents and all to prove we are Indians.. is there any sense in it?

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Sayeed, every country need to have their citizens register. It is applicable to every citizen irrespective of their religion, caste, creed. No should worry because when you are born here you should have any document. Only those will have issues who are coming from outside, getting forged documents like Passport, Aadhar card & VoterID. Let every Indian citizen prove their documents & progress together by sending illegal migrants.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Manvit,

    You said: Persecuted minorities from Pakistan, Bangladesh & Afghanistan will get citizenship.

    Answer: What is the proof the all people awarded with the Nationality are Persecuted? Is there any investigation. Amit Shah said they don’t need any document at all to give citizenship.

    What if a terrorist from Pakistan manages to show himself as a Non Muslim (only criteria needed for Nationality; it is very easy in the current corrupt system). Even he will be given Nationality of India.

    It is very compassionate to show mercy on the persecuted. But, you know, even toady people are entering from Bangladesh in the morning as daily workers and return to Bnagladesh in the evening after their coolie work. Are all of them persecuted?

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Nawaz, Good question, how to prove themself as persecuted?? One cannot come to India now then apply for Citizenship under CAA. There is cut off date & to check whether you are muslim or Hindu, please check the movie Jolly LLB 2, this is an example & its government duty to check
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp7XvNoc0aw

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Manvit,

    I NEED GOOD ANSWER TO THE GOOD QUESTION.

    I asked you that how the governemnt knows that all illegal immigrants are persecuted in those Countries? You are telling that it is the duty of the Government to check. I am again reminding you that Amit Shah has told in Parliament that no documents would be asked from the Illegal immigrants; so how can they conclude about the Persecution?. So the persecution criteria is just for namesake only. As i told people come from Bangladesh for Economical betterment to India. I have met people from Bangladesh, here in Kuwait, who, when asked about why you immigrate to India, they replied saying that Bangladesh Nationality is not allowed to work in Gulf countries, so they can come after getting Indian passpoert. He even told me that, many people have already got passports (Before CAA)

    Before everything else, did you find any word like "PERSECUTED" in the papers of CAA? Please let me know if you found that word. The word is used only in the Public to fool them and never used in the documents of CAA. Let me know if i am wrong here.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    You said: Only Muslims from 3 countries will not get citizenship because all are belongs to the majority in their country.

    Answer: Why only 3 countries are selected arbitrarily?
    PERSECUTED ARE PERSECUTED ; BE THEM PERSECUTED IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY OR IN A NON MUSLIM COUNTRY.
    Why not Burma is selected where Rohingya Muslims are Persecuted and are in Minority?
    Why not TAMIL Hindus STAYING IN india are selected who were persecuted in Sri LANKA and are in Minority?

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    You said: If 3 Conutires Muslims need Indian citizenship, they can apply & they will get if they are eligible as Adnan Samy got Indian Citizenship.

    ANSWER: As you said "One (from these 3 countries) can apply & they will get if they are eligible as Adnan Samy got Indian Citizenship.
    So, what is the need of new law? When Adnan Sami can get the Citizenship even after being a Muslim and also from Pakistan; it is for sure that any persecuted Non Muslim will get the Nationality very very easily. So the new law? there are alraedy current laws that provide citizenship to people from these countries. Only Politics is going on, nothing else.

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Adnan Samy was not religiously persecuted & his Indian nationality is not based on that. That was his wish to get Indian Citizenship and like him, many Hindus & Muslims got Passport by applying while they were in Pakistan. This CAA applies only those who have entered India illegally & staying here more than years. Also it is not applicable if some more persecuted Hindus wanted to shift now from Pakistan.

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  • Manvit, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Seems like lot of people attended as they too need Indian Passport.

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  • kumara, abu dhabi

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    only we are intolerants

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    That is too much.
    If at all such processions take place in Kuwait, the government may catch and deport all of them.
    I do not think the Home ministry would grant permission hold such morchas.

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  • El En Tea, Mumbai

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Flavian its morcha insdie the Indian Embassy office not on the public road.
    Now Secular Indians are fighting against the communal force.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Flavian,
    If it was against the law, then they would have been arrested by now. Why are you refereeing it as too much?

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  • AJ, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Picture ia for illustrative purpose only ..

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  • D.Shetty, Mangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    when its law now please abide to it and provide all necessary papers and update your records so NRC will be easy ... cheers for safe india

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    D Shetty,

    Assam Accord was also law formulated in 1985 which stipulates that no refugee will be given citizenship who entered into India after 1971. If found such person, would be deported according to that law. How the CAA could override existing law of Assam Accord? If it can override, there can be one more amendment that can override the CAA also.

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  • Krishna, Udupi

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    there are 2.6 -3 million (206-30 Lakh) indians in UAE and 30 people are submitted memorandum.

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  • naveen, Netakere

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    HaHaHa :)

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  • I wish I was There, Bahrain

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Krishna, Udupi
    30 people have submitted memorandum, and 29 of them are from Udupi.

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  • Nawaz, Udupi/ Kuwait

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Mr. I wish,

    Do you see the crowd that has strength of 30 people?

    For the sake of argument, Suppose, if some of you are discriminated by someone in India, how many persons do you think will join you if you want to go to the Embassy in your Country of Bahrain? May be you yourself will not go.

    By the way, it is Indian Embassy and not the Fish market. So, it is always advisable to limit the Crowd. And only Udupi people have that sharp thinking to understand that; not anybody sitting in Bahrain and doing nothing.

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  • I wish I was There, Bahrain

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    FYI,
    I am MISS.

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  • Ashwil, Mangalore

    Thu, Jan 02 2020

    No wonder Miss you MISSED everything that matters.

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  • Ahmed, Bangalore

    Tue, Dec 31 2019

    Do you expect 30 million to enter Embassy to submit memorandum?? It's foolish thinking.

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