Mangalore: Love Triumphs over Barriers as Couple Tie Knot


Mangalore: Love Triumphs over Barriers as Couple Tie Knot

Prof Narendra Nayak
President, Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations

Mangalore, Dec 21: This is the story of two young people in love, who refused to be bound by restrictions imposed by society, caste system and everything else, and listened only to their love-filled hearts.

Sandesh is a Pambada, a caste of dalits who are untouchables except when they perform in Bhootha Kolas dressed in costumes and carry out the associated rituals! The moment the costume is removed they become untouchables.

Deepti belongs to a caste called Kottaris and is studying for her masters in commerce while working at a mall. The rationalist assocation has performed many intercaste, interreligious marriages but the maximum opposition has been when one of the couples is a dalit! As expected, Deepti's family was very much opposed to this match and three days ago she fled home and started staying as a paying guest.

On Wednesday December 21, it was a tearful shivering young woman who came to meet me, worried about her fate and that of her beloved. That was because her family had arranged a match for her from her own caste, a young man who was a relative of the head of a most feared moral police of the Hindutva right wing. She was scared that his goons were searching for her. In fact, all the documents needed for her marriage were kept at the place where she used to work and she was scared when the former colleagues told her that a close watch was being kept on her locker by the minions of this man.

She had come to us for help with a middle aged lady whom we assumed was her relative - but it was not! She was Sandesh's mother who had come with her, out of love for her would-be daughter-in-law. By that time a number of progressive organisations had been intimated and also some very progressive minded journalists.

While we tried to get her documents from the place where she used to work, some goons from there tried to follow her and then it was a ride straight to the office of the commissioner of police, Seemanth Singh who had instructed his office to give all help to the couple. By the time we reached the office, ony Deepti's brothers were there and they informed the police that they had absolutely no objection to her marrying anyone of her choice.
 
So, in the evening one progressive minded priest Jayaram Bhat performed their marriage in the presence of journalists and progressive minded organisations like DYFI, Samudaya, AIDWA, Insurance employees union and the Dakshina Kannada rationalist association. For the last named, though religious marriages are not their cup of tea,under some circumstances, particularly when registration has to be done immediately this sort of ritual becomes necessary. We are very happy that Jayaram Bhat has been co-operating with us from the past two decades when there has been a need.

  

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  • Bulsam, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    The Prophet (sin Islam gave this directive not because dogs are unclean but because some dogs in his times had become infected with rabies, which is a fatal disease.

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  • Shyam, Kasaragod

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    God only knows when this caste sytem is going to end. The UPA & Cong at center has proposed reservation in Lokpal bill also!! They want reservation in committee of Lokpal to be of so called backward classes and minorties. Caste system is getting stronger with politicians of this kind. Down down caste system.Jai Anna..I am with Anna

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  • SUJITH.POLALI, polali.mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    DEPTHI SHOULD THINK ABOUT HERE MOTHER . SHE IS SUFFERING FOR THIS REASON ,I AM TEELING ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW HER PERSONALY ,ONLY WISH IS LET THAT AGAIN NOT CAHNGE HIS MIND LIKE WHAT BEFORE HE DID .FINALLY ALL THE BEST ...
    SAREVE JANASUKINOBAVANTHU ....

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  • Avil Dalmeida, Moddubelle/Dubai

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Dear Amith , Bangalore,

    Ennala onji anchene.............
    Why we simply here fighting about religion.The couples might be went for honeymoon.Congrats Sandesh & Deepti.God bless you.

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  • Walter, Bajpe/USA

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Congratulations newly weds! When God created Adam, and then Eve, He commissioned and blessed them into the covenant of marriage. The covenant of marriage is God’s command. God did not ask neither Adam's nor Eve's caste or religion before He blessed them and commanded them saying “Go forth and multiply and fill this earth”. From God's covenant of marriage, we must learn that marriage is between a male and female of human race. That is the only requirement for marriage all others are man-made and no basis. Be happy the newly weds and thank God for His Blessings on you through His Covenant of Marriage. You have complied with God's command and that shall prevail in your lives. We wish you all the happiness throughout your lives.

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  • Amith , Bangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Dear all Brothers & Sister

    Please let us STOP fighting regarding Religions!!! every Religion as their own way to performs.
    Life is Short Make it Sweet, whole WORLD is Completely Controlled by super sprit GOD, nothing can be changed without his Orders
    Let us all lead a good friendly & smiley Life.

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  • Rahul Pujary, Manglore - Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Sandesh & Deepti wishing you a happy married life you both don't have any problem in marriage but media and some sick units have the same media to make some news and no work just write ill comments...GROW UP

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    They ran,eloped , forgetting caste, religion or whatever,married, wanting to live happily ever after and some of you quarelled using this occassion to spread bitterness allowing it to linger and linger.... Moral of the story is
    ..... Get admitted to L.K.G. once again and unlearn all that you have learnt and be 'innocent' once again!!

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, KINGDOM OF BAHRAIN

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Lydia and Ismail, I do agree with your comments.
    Sudheer is pouring salt on people's wound, you are a looser, sick, grow up.......sudheer.

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  • ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Sudheer Mangalore, I am convinced that"Artificial intelligence is no match to natural stupidity"by the by I am of the opinion of M/S Lydia Lobo Kadri -yes waste of time to convince..........

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  • Sudheer, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Ismell, This(dog issue) is also one type of discrimination. Why did you take up Made snana here, you too stick to points. Your higenic point whill not disturn when the same dog sniff your luggage at airport???

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  • Anwar Ali, Mangalore/Hatha Oman

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Sudheer, Mangalore

    "Same way why you hate dogs whcih is an animal (also your Quran says too)"

    Dear sudheer you got some wrong information No where in Quran it says about prohibition of dogs. Please do not say which you have no knowledge

    Cheers

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  • ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Sudheer Mangalore,We or Islam or Muslims not @ all against animals and that also for dog.We kept it @ bay because of hygienic point of view and science also endorse that point.On the other hand how that issue equates and raked here for Human untouchability is a million dollar question.However, that comparison goes against human values.

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Forget about the aisles,seating arrangements, conversions and let us see at the lighter things in life for a change- for starters Is it a 'croaking cock' or a 'crowing cock'at dawn?

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Praveen,

    No need to beg these hypocrites. They come on road and shout 'Love Jihad' while their own man is abducting/raping their women.

    Their women run away from home or commit suicide because the parents curtail them marrying outside caste (I say caste - not religion) and they blame the society again as 'Love Jihad'

    There is no truth in what he said you don't have to worry about it. We have had enough pleading them to prove one conversion, this hoopla is one similar.

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  • Sudheer, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Lydia, Do you agree that in church too there discrimination. As per your reply it says YES, because even a hen will alays say dawn happens only because she croaks.

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  • Sudheer, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Ismail, Same way why you hate dogs whcih is an animal(also your Quran says too), but holy place like Saudi where sniffer dogs used to check your luggage in airport.

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  • Sudheer, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Praveen, Just reply is it true or not, if you it is not true then I will give you proof. My point is when you have so many problems in your religion dont send comments on other religion, First correct yourself before pointing out fingures others.

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  • Praveen, Kavoor / Muscat

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Sudheer, after reading your comments i am humbly requesting you to tell all of us which parish/ cemetry/ chapel you are referring. Pls...

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Lancelot/ Joboy

    You have taken commenting to another level....Hee Hee Heeee....

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  • Amin Bhoja, Patte / Riyadh

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    We are in 21 century,still we argue for untouchables and Dalits, is not acceptable at all.We all 'GOD'S creation need to live together with harmony,is what my opinion.A wishful married life for both.

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  • ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Aravind Prakash Mangalore, well said perhaps need of the hour.
    In the name tradition some of us following these barbaric practices.What about 'MADEY SNANA"which was a controversial issue in undivided DK , finally went to sine die with out any concrete decision.Those intellectuals and progressive thinkers need to come @ fore to revolutionize bad elements in the civilized society.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Sudheer,

    I did not say anything - I just quoted what Aravind Prakash wrote. Reply to his questions and justify what happened with Deepti before she was helped by these men in getting her married to Sandesh.

    Waste of time to convince you about discrimination in prayer services as was about alleged conversions. Because a cock will always say dawn happens only because he croaks.

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  • GERALD, Modankap-Bantwal

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    SUDEER CHRISTANITY NEVER TEACHES DESCRIMINATION AMONG THE PEOPLE AS WE ARE ALL GODS CHILDREN WITOUT CAST OR CREED. PLEASE KEEP YOUR IMAGINATIONS AND MISCONCEPTIONS WITH YOURSEF.

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  • florine, mumbai

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    May heaven's choicest blessings showered on the newly wedded couple best wishes

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  • Sudheer, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Lydai Lobo, Pls coment with your quotes & unquotes
    Construction of two chapels, one for non-dalits and the other for the dalits. In some parishes liturgical services are conducted separately.

    Separate seating arrangements within the same chapel. Dalits are usually seated at the two aisles. Even if there are benches or chairs, dalits are required only to be seated on the floor.

    The existence of two separate cemeteries and two separate hearses to carry the dead.

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  • Devadas, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Happy ending !!I appreciate all the progressive like minded people who played their part in uniting the young couple.However, to my knowledge , pambadas do not belong to the caste catogorised as untouchables.they They do perform bootha kolas ,but defferent from Nalike caste who also perform Kolas and were considered as untouchables in olden days. Those days are gone,now no one is untouchable!!therefore let us not unnecessarily glorify the facts posing as some one has helped an untouchabe to get married a touchable!I wish all the best to the newly married couple.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Mr. Aravind Prakash,

    "As far as we do not come out of this old consrvative mindset we will not be able to progress as a civilized humane society. We should all work towards eradicating this barbaric tradition(?) of Untouchability!"

    That is too brave of you to say. Here, the moment a non-Hindu speaks one word about social discrimination or superstition, voices rise to shout 'don't comment about others' religion'. Your lone voice is not enough - at the same time, the society comprises of all religions who do feel bad when humans are subjected to such heinous treatment.

    We do have a long way to go before changes preached by social reformers come into full practice.

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  • ALI, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Wishing u happy married life.

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  • shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    I wish this so called "UNTOUCHABLE" should have loved and married a boy from so called "UPPER" caste and become a part and member of upper class family ... A best approach to eradicate untouchability.. integration of society and equality in creations and marriages.....What an idea Sirji.....

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  • Jessie, Mulky

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    what upper caste will say now? Christian missionaries involved in this?

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  • Aravind Prakash, Managalore/Dubai

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    In this age of high speed internet it is surprising to see the rigid mindset of the people of Managlore! Whereas Managlore boasts of some of the best educational institutions in the country and Mangloreans have a very high level of education, it is sad to see this dogmatic approach towards the lower strata of socitey. As far as we do not come out of this old consrvative minset we will not be able to progress as a civilzed humane society. We should all work towards eradicating this barbaric tradition(?) of Untouchability!

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  • joboy, mlore/dubai

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    life is short...grab everything you want :-)

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  • Sulaiman K, Mangalore/KSA

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Made for each other.
    Wishing u a Happy married life.

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  • Rajesh Kutthar, Dubai/mangalroe

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Dear Sandesh hearty Congrats yaar..... wish you happy married life ... god bless both of you....

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  • shiny jackline soans , Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Deepti...am shiny jackline your high school classmate. WISHING YOU A HAPPY MARRIED LIFE. God bless...u.

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  • SAYED KALEEM, Udupi/Dubai

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Is this also a LOVE JIHAAD.

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  • vinay, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Why media itself highlighting that, Dalits are untouchables? Now-a-days nobody is bother about the caste. The priest himself is sitting besides the groom. Then why media has a problem? Dont ink such a bullshit sentence.

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  • Dr Kusuma Kumari G DGO DNB, Nellore/Kundapur

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Very Good Dr Narendra Nayak. You should conduct more of these in future and rip aprat the customs regarding cast in our society, Becuase there should be no caste discrimination in our great society

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  • Jacob Pais, Allipade, Korea

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Something great has happened for Sandesh and Deepti. No human being can destroy this due to human made barrier of caste. Sandesh and Deepti are bound by love which is divine. Let love and divinity prevail, not human made caste and rules. Congratulations Sandesh and Deepti, take courage and let your love for each other prevail not only on this earth but also after life on the other world.
    Fr.Jacob Pais SVD

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  • Bulsam, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Is this our true democracy????? Is Indai a true secular country?????

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  • Gireesh Shetty, Sharjah

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Please excuse..Pambadhas are never considered untouchables. People who perform Bootha Kola rituals belong to NALIKE & Pambadha sects. They are never considered untouchables at some place they dont enter the other house thts it.Please dont spread wrong message.

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  • Lancelot N Tauro, Manglore - Doha Qatar

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    Who has created this UNTOUCHABLE.... then what is touchable according to them.

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  • M.SHAMEEM ANSARI, BAHRAIN

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    WISH U HAPPY MARRIED LIFE

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  • Gerald, modankap-bantval

    Thu, Dec 22 2011

    "A caste of dalits who are untouchables except when they perform in Bhootha Kolas dressed in costumes and carry out the associated rituals! The moment the costume is removed they become untouchables" - IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND CAST /COMMUNITY WHAT A HYPOCRISY - ANYWAYS "LOVE JINDABAD" WISHING YOU A HAPPY MARRIED LIFE.

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Wed, Dec 21 2011

    Very HIT....FIT....HOT pair(jodi)
    You both look so 'made for each other'. God bless you as you enter this new phase of your life.
    Regards
    Henry M./Bahrain

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Dec 21 2011

    Uh... Its nothing less than a movie.. Such a brilliant girl ! If it wasn't for support from all you involved, we would have heard of another suicide !

    Keep up your efforts girl ! Complete your studies and find a job that your qualification commands !

    Happy married life to you both !

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  • ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

    Wed, Dec 21 2011

    Really this couple made for each other.Their love was genuine and divine power helped them in getting married with out any untoward incident!The courage and willpower of this young learned lady need to be appreciated even being in odd circumstances.Happy married life to both Mr Sandesh and Deepti and god bless them.

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  • Langoolacharya., Belman/USA.

    Wed, Dec 21 2011

    People,

    All ruling party members are "Pambada"s when power ends their show ends.....

    This is very true in case of our "Three Vidhvans" of undivided DK......

    Jai Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Jai Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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