Bangalore: Demand for Konkani in Liturgy, Separate Konkani Archdiocese


Bangalore: Demand for Konkani in Liturgy, Separate Konkani Archdiocese
 
From Our Special Correspondent
Daijiworld Media Network - Bangalore

Bangalore, Jul 20: Allowing space for Konkani in the Liturgy and Holy Eucharistic celebrations in the Archdiocese of Bangalore and other dioceses in Karnataka like Chikmagalur, which has predominant Konkani speaking faithful, as also in other Catholic dioceses of the Latin rite churches in the State and a strong plea for taking steps for the creation of a Konkani Archdiocese comprising all the dioceses in the Konkani speaking areas were some of the main demands put forth before a three-level panel headed by Dr Thomas Menaparampil, Archbishop Emeritus of Guwahati in the Bangalore.

The panel headed by the highly respected Archbishop Menaparampil, comprising Dr Agnelo, Bishop of Mumbai and Dr Thomas Dabre, Bishop of Pune, which has been constituted by the Apostolic Nuncio to India, Archbishop Salvatore Pennacchio, has been in Bangalore four days since July 16 to study the implementation of the three-language formula in the Archdiocese of Bangalore and the establishment of a Regional Seminary for Karnataka in Bangalore.

The grievances of Konkani speaking Catholics in Bangalore were taken up under the banner of the Federation of Konkani Catholic Associations, which has as many as 16 associations of Konkani Catholics in different parts of Bangalore alone and another 11 associations of Konkani Catholics in other districts of Karnataka and several foreign countries in the Middle East, US, UK and Canada. The FKCA team led by its newly elected chairperson Aida D’Cunha and past chairmen Valerian Fernandes and Charles Gomes along with the office-bearers also took up the case of Konkani Catholics of Chikmagalur, Mysore, Shimoga dioceses as also explained the situation in other Catholic dioceses like Mangalore, Karwar, Bellary, Gulbarga and Belgaum as well.

However, the Konkani Prachar Sanchalan President Ronlad (Roy) Castelino and Eric Ozario, Gurkar of Mandd Sobhann, represented the concerns of Konkani Catholics from Mangalore with Chikmagalur district’s Catholic Konkani Rakan Sanchalan Secretary Edward Pinto took up the problems of Konkani Catholics in Chikmagalur diocese and Mysore’s Konkani Christian Association Secretary John William D’Souza took up the case of Konkani Catholics of Mysore diocese as the Konkani speaking faithful in the their respective dioceses had similar concerns as those of the Konkani Catholics in Bangalore.
 

Greetings with Flowers

The Archbishop Menaparampil’s team, which received written respresentations from the three delegations and gave a patient hearing for 20 minutes against the allotted time of 10 minutes and took meticulous notes, even expressed their pleasant surprise when the FKCA chairperson Aida D’Cunha presented flower bouquets. ''Yours is the first delegation to greet us with flowers," the highly learned Archbishop Emeritus Menaparampil remarked.

Speaking to the Apostolic Nunico’s three-member team on behalf of FKCA, Gabriel Vaz, journalist, made it clear Karnataka accounted for the largest number of Konkani speaking people and the State had more than half the nearly 30 lakh Konkani speaking people spread among different castes and religions like Roman Catholics, Christians belonging to Protestants and other denominations, Hindus, Gowd Saraswat Brahmins, Navayats or Muslims, Kudumbis and even Siddis of African origin.

While Konkani speaking people were predominant in Mangalore and the newly created Udupi dioceses as well Karwar and Chikmagalur dioceses, Mysore, Shimoga, Bangalore and even Belgaum dioceses had substantial numbers of Konkani Catholics. However, Konkani was used in the Liturgy and Eucharistic celebrations in Mangalore, Udupi and Karwar dioceses, all other dioceses had denied any space for Konkani while according primacy to the State’s official language of Kannada.
 

Discard 3-Language Formula; Allow Other Languages
 
''Though we are Konkani speaking and love our mother-tongue very much, we have no problems in using Kannada in our day-to-day life. However, we feel happy to use our mother-tongue in our daily prayers and in Liturgy as well as in all Eucharistic celebrations," he said and pointed out that the 3-language formula that was hammered out by the then Archbishop Dr Alphonsus Mathias some 25 years ago, when Kannada protagonists were up in arms against Tamil speaking people, especially after the flaring up of Kannada versus Tamil language row between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, was totally unfair to Konkani speaking people as also faithful belonging to other languages like Malayalam or Telugu as it dictated that only Kannada, Tamil and English be used in the parishes.

''Roughly 30 per cent of the Catholics in Bangalore Archdiocese are Konkani speaking from coastal Karnataka or other parts of the State, who had come to Bangalore in search of jobs, for education or business after the trend of migration to Bombay or the Gulf countries was ersed. When the Kannada Catholics were agitating against Tamil, the Konkani speaking people being multi-lingual and not keen to add to the problems of the Konkani speaking Mangalorean Archbishop, backed the former against the Tamilians, who were considered as outsiders little realizing that it will prove detrimental to them in the long run," Gabriel Vaz explained.

''Konkani speaking Catholics are denied the opportunity to have at least the Sunday obligatory mass in their mother-tongue in parishes in places like Yeshwanthpur, Rajajinagar, Jalahalli, R T Nagar, Viveknagar, Koramangala, Jayanagar etc which had 30 to 50 per cent or even more Konkani speaking people while Kannada speaking Catholics were hardly 20 to 30 per cent with people belonging to Malayalam, Tamil or Telugu accounting for the rest," he said pointing out that the situation had become so much worse as to see the Konkani speaking people being p ented to have Eucharistic celebrations in their mother-tongue during funerals, nuptials and other sacraments and even during the traditional and most important Nativity Feast of Mother Mary. Though some churches allowed Konkani liturgy and masses for the Nativity Feast, there was always resistance from the Kannada speaking people.
 

Hold Referendum to Ascertain Views of Faithful
 
He explained that the resistance to Konkani or other languages was confined to a small section of Kannada faithful while majority of the Catholics had no objection as long as they were allowed to use their mother-tongue. The Kannada agitationists were mostly outsiders and even politically affiliated outfits and anti-minority elements with active support and cooperation from some of the Kannada priests, who had ulterior motives of capturing key positions and power within the diocese.

Keeping all these factors into consideration, he said the team should recommend scapping of the impractical, cumbersome and anti-people three-language formula and allow the people to have a say in the choice of the language for the liturgy by holding a parish-wise referendum to assess the views of the people based on the family records maintained in each of the parishes and allow the use of the language if a substantial number of people like 10 or 15 per cent of the total number of families prefer a particular language.

''Let Kannada enjoy the primary place and let the Kannada speaking faithful select the most suitable prime time either in the morning and allow the other linguistic people to mutually decide the timings most convenient to them through dialogue. We want Konkani only in parishes with substantial number of Konkani speaking faithful and have no objection to Kannada, Tamil or Telugu languages being used if substantial number of people were in favour of it," he said.
 

Regional Seminary Welcome, But Not Linguistic
 
He also suggested that the Apostolic Team should recommend similar policy to be adopted in all the dioceses across the State rather imposing any rigid single or two or three language formula. This will take care of the problems in Chikmagalur, with 90 per cent of Konkani speaking people but following pro-Kannada single language policy, and Msyore, Shimoga or Belgaum dioceses.

On the issue of setting up of a regional seminary for Karnataka, he said the Konkani speaking people had no objection for a separate seminary as long as it was broad-based and not confined to any one language as the priests being trained were meant to serve all sections of people belonging to different languages. ''The Catholic church need not follow the medium of instruction policy," he said suggesting that it should be governed by the Karnataka Bishops through the Karnataka Region Bishops Council comprising 19 Bishops and the Bishops of Tamil Nadu must not have any say in the seminary in the State just as Bishops from other states were not allowed a say in Tamil Nadu.
 

Create Konkani Archdiocese
 
He also advocated the need for a separate Konkani Archdiocese comprising Mangalore, Udupi, Karwar, Chikmagalur, Shimoga and even from parts of Mysore and Belgaum. If the undivided Dakshina Kannada district can have four dioceses of Mangalore, Udupi, Puttur and Belthangady (the last two belonging to the Syro-Malabar and Syro-Malankara rites), and states like Kerala, Tamil Nadu or Maharashtra can have two Archdioceses, it was high time that the predominantly Konkani speaking dioceses be brought under a single Archdiocese rather than being under the control of Bangalore Archdiocese.

Another suggestion made by FKCA was for splitting the Bangalore Archdiocese for administrative convenience and better pastoral care as the present Archdiocese comprising six civil districts from Bangalore urban and rural, Ramanagaram, Chikballapur, Tumkur and Kolar was too large and unwieldy. ''If the diocese is split, it will also partially satisfy the objectives of some of the Kannada priests for grabbing positions of power by fomenting trouble in the Archdiocse by raking up the language issue," he said evoking mild smiles from the three Bishops.
 

''Don’t Let Konkani Die"
 
Roy Castelino of the Konkani Prachar Sanchalan and Eric Ozario speaking on behalf of the Catholic Konkan Rakan Sanchalan of Chikmagalur said the rigid application of the 3-language formula in Bangalore Archdiocese had its repercussions in Chikmagalur, Mysore, Shimoga and other dioceses with the adoption of the single language formula or at best use of English language but never Konkani. There were several parishes in these dioceses which had an overwhelming majority of Konkani speaking people, who had to put up with use of Kannada in the Liturgy.

''If a language is blocked out of the liturgy, it may soon fade away from the hearts and minds of people and may eventually die," Eric Ozario said pointing out that Latin was a classic example with even Sanskrit was almost a similar case as it was sought to be restricted only to the Brahminical class.

''Frustrated at the total disregard for their mother-tongue in liturgy, many of the Konkani speaking people were going out of the fold and even embracing breakaway sects or denominations like New Life or Pentecost or even joining Jehovah’s Witnesses," Ozario said and urged the team to be mindful of the larger interest of the church and keeping all its flock together.

''If the State Government gives recognition to Konkani and sets up a separate Academy for the development of Konkani and promotion of its literature and culture, the church should also play a similar pro-active role like the early Christian missionaries who studied the local languages," he added.
 

Support Konkani, Pray in Konkani
 
Later, all the leaders of the different Konkani organizations held a meeting at Ashirwad to discuss the future course of action in which Mandd Sonhann President Stany Alvares, leading advocate M P Noronha and Ronald Colaco, President of International Federation of Christian Associations and an ardent well-wisher of Konkani participated.

After discussing various issues, the meeting felt the need for greater interaction to ensure that the momentum generated for developing and promoting Konkani in liturgy should be continued.

''I am second to none in espousing the cause of Konkani and am willing to extend full support. However, we should take care to ensure that we carry all sections of the people with us and should not take steps that might prove detrimental to our religion," Ronald Colaco said and emphasized that all the Konkani Catholics must be exhibit their seriousness and commitment to their mother-tongue by having their personal and family prayers in Konkani besides supporting the efforts of all Konkani activists and organizations.

  

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  • V.Baretto, Bantwal Rajajinagar Bangaloe

    Sat, Jul 18 2020

    After a struggle we were able to get regular konkani mass on sundays in Rajajinagar

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  • Felix Raj Micheal, Bangalore

    Mon, Oct 01 2012

    I just read the Memorandum, its a good proposal, but the way it is said is very much wrong and false, the % stats which you have given about about Konkani, Kannada and Tamil Catholics are false, if true can you share the info. When you don't have correct info please don't make false statement, which will spoil your name and your community.Please refer the directory of Bangalore arch dioceses you will find the % of people residing in Bangalore and their language.3.As per the survey 2001 In this state 70%of the Catholics are Tamilians and combination of other linguistics people are 30%, please refer to this and change your statement, hope you will do this

    Thanks in advance
    Felix

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  • mnrod, Mangalore

    Tue, Jul 24 2012

    Great idea. Why cant there be a strong plea for creation of a Konkani Bible study center in the Konkani speaking areas. Majority of Konkani speaking persons are very poor in knowing the Holy Book. So more focus must be put on Bible study as there are liturgies and Eucharistic celebrations in every place or country which has a majority of the same language speaking persons. So focus on Bible study centers in Konkani as every home, person, old or young need to know throughly this Great Book for tremendous blessings.

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  • antony arun d'souza, dubai

    Tue, Jul 24 2012

    All the best FKCA. your work is great.Our Konkani language will flourish very soon because of yours effort.Real and utmost appreciation goes to ERIC OZARIO BAB who is worthy of becoming a great leader in konkany society.

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  • Santosh Dcunha, Mangalore/ Bangalore

    Tue, Jul 24 2012

    Congrats Team . Please go ahead ..I will get more support from people I knw. Donot get distracted by what Pojari has to say coz he has no clue about what he says...Go ahead with the mission . All the best and God bless

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  • Jason Castelino, Bangalore/Mangalore

    Tue, Jul 24 2012

    Yes, we need Konkani mass. It makes the liturgy more meaningful and also acts as a medium to preserve our mother tongue...

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  • nirmal, mangalore

    Mon, Jul 23 2012

    Seminaries and convents are the Holy places for students to teach them to walk in the foot steps of our Divine Lord Jesus Christ. If the the problems starts from the seminaries, and other training places it it is not correct, and it is the sad episoid.When the studnets build up with the good qualities and selish motives at the end, love never remains. If Love never exists everything is waste. I remember in the past in one of the parish in Bangalore, there were three readings in three languages and sermon in three languages. It is not people don't understand the language. Just people insist their own mother tongue.The purpose of gathering in the Holy church, to worship the Lord or participation in His holy Eucharisitic celebration. For mass in Konkani speaking people had struggled lot. In the past struggle between Kannada and tamil, During that time konkani speaking people, Kannada speaking, and mostly Telugu speaking people fought to-gather. Now rift between Kananda and Konkani speaking people. It is the sad part. Is this language not from Karnataka? Entire Konkan belt is the culture of Konkani, then why should someone says go to Goa? In the past oneof prominent leaders has told "all the Christians go to Europe".

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  • Alban D'souza, Kunthalnagar/moodubelle

    Sun, Jul 22 2012

    Good initiative by FKCA to support Konkani mass..i hope we Konkani speaking people are in large number in Bangalore so at least one mass for a Sunday is need for us.We are with you FKCA.

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  • William Dmello, Mudigere/Bangalore

    Sun, Jul 22 2012

    I completely agree with the genuine desire of the Konkani People asking for their right to workship inthe languanges they prefer. After all religious prayers and workship teaches peace,love and harmony.. Every person wants to understand the preaching better, and its possible only if he understands the language spoken. When he understnds he follows thereby adapting it in his day to day life. In todays modern world commnets opposing such demands can only expose a persons narrow minded thinking. This reminds me of the story of the Typical Indian Crabs who does not want others to look at a wider perspective just for thier mean mottos..

    Friend..Try to see the world with a wider vision.. and you would change your views.

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  • Noeal J Fernandes, Udupi /Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    We really deserve to have mass in KONKANI. b'cous v r born &brought up in this state. We demand only mass in KONKANI, not separate state. KONKANI is one of the main language used to speak by all communities and religious.

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  • Zeela, Mangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Its a good initiative from FKCA.Yes we need konkani mass in bangalore. It will be more devotional to have our mother tongue mass in church.

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  • Anthony Lobo, Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    It is our birth right to pray and have liturgy in any language we wish, and specially in our mother tongue. If not obliged, we will be forced to have konkani churches separately.

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  • Vivan, bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Congrats FKCA, yes we need Konkani Mass in Bangalore on Sundays

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  • nirmal, mangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Mumbai is the captial of Mahrastra, yet there is a Konkany mass, because of more Konkany speaking people. So do in Bangalore and other parts of the state. It is our own state language. In Bangalore Tamilians are more and permitted the mass in tamil and it is fine. Holy mass is for the congregation. When we have more numbers of Konkany speaking people why there is problem in giving permission for Konkany language. We know tamiliaan love thier language very much.And so we too do. Show us a single place in Tamil Nadu holy mass in Konkany or in Kananda. In the past we experianced enough difficulties. I hope church authorities of Bangalore will decide and consider that Konkani is also a main language in our liturgy.

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  • Arun Fernandes, Mangalore/ Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Thanks to FKCA for their timely initiative....We have made our stand properly and hope justice prevails....
    @ Dinesh Poojari : This is one stupid guy who is so jobless that he is found commenting on every other article whther or not it concerns him....So fellow Konkanites - The true sons of the soil of Karnataka, please dont waste your time on responding to a fool.....He is from a different level and it does not give us grace to stoop down to his level....So leave this Dinesh Poojari & his slogan "Jai ho" alone....

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  • Sohan Castelino, Udupi/Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Good initiative by FKCA to support Konkani. Keep up the spirit and we will support you.

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  • GV, Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    RUPERT REGO, MANGALORE/ MUSCAT, don't be snobbish. What Eric Ozario said is 100% correct and the imposition of other languages and total neglect of mother-tongue in Liturgy is definitely ONE OF THE REASONS for many Konkani speaking people going out of the fold. There might be other valid reasons as well. It is for the Church to analyse and take corrective measures. We, the laity, must also ponder over these issues if we are genuinely interested in our religion.

    And, please don't ridicule somebody like Eric Ozario as ``self-appointed crusader." Do you know the service and contribution that he does for the cause of Konkani, its culture and even encouraging literary personalities, not to speak of reviving and strengthening music. Sitting in Muscat it is easy to pass quick comments. While one may not agree with all that Eric Ozario does and ardently/passionately supports, I and many others like me are strong admirers of Eric Ozario. I only wish that Konkani has many such ``self appointed crusaders" rather than armchair critics writing meaningless and silly comments.

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  • Fr. Adrian Mascarenhas, Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    The following article from Vatican II may be relevant:

    "SC 36.3 These norms [on liturgy] being observed, it is for the competent territorial ecclesiastical authority mentioned in Art. 22, 2 (i.e. "competent territorial bodies of bishops legitimately established."), to decide whether, and to what extent, the vernacular language is to be used their decrees are to be approved, that is, confirmed, by the Apostolic See. And, whenever it seems to be called for, this authority is to consult with bishops of neighboring regions which have the same language."

    According to this, it is the bishops who decide on the language of the liturgy. No doubt, they are to take into consideration the spiritual needs of the people. Yet, it is clear that undue pressure should not be exerted on the bishops by any group, whether majority or minority. Let us rather state our case and let us together condemn the use of force, violence, media pressure, demonstrations and strikes which are tools to serve the vested interests of a few priests and laity and even a few non-Christians who want to divide our community.

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  • Aloka Nath, Bengaluru

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    How many so called KONKANIs speak konkani at home? They have adopted English as mother tongue, medium of instruction at school. To talk to GOD need konkani?

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  • william pinto , kulshekar,BLORE

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Hey,poojari,donot test our patience.v konkans born n brought up in mlore better mind it.finally what our demand is for our mother tongue to save for next jeneration,

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  • RUPERT REGO, MANGALORE/ MUSCAT

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    "Frustrated at the total disregard for their mother-tongue in liturgy, many of the Konkani speaking people were going out of the fold and even embracing breakaway sects or denominations like New Life or Pentecost or even joining Jehovah’s Witnesses," Ozario said and urged the team to be mindful of the larger interest of the church and keeping all its flock together." Quote/ Unquote

    In an age of Global citizenship,
    looks like the so called Mangalorean Roman Catholics ("Porbus") are, as usual, looking at things from their jaundiced selfish perspective. As if speaking/preaching/praying in the konkani vernacular brings to closer to being a better Christian, let alone a better person as opposed to those congregations mentioned above by the self appointed Konkani crusader.

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  • Alwyn Mendonca, Muchure/Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    It is important for the Konkani speaking people to have the liturgy in our mother tongue. Further this celebration of the liturgy becomes more meaningful. I am sure many of our senior citizens will enjoy the liturgy services also it will help the children to learn our culture and language.

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  • Gerald Pinto - President, St. Anne's Konkan Kutaam (SAKK) Marathahalli., Mangalore/ Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    The konkani speaking people have been part of Karnataka for ages. Our dedication and service to the society is a living testimony. We have witnessed Kannada service so long and we have loved it. We are pleading to conduct mass in konkani is to preserve the culture of konkani and honor the language and pass it on to the next generation. We support the initiatives driven by FKCA and stand by it to have mass in konkani.

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  • Nancy Menezes, Milar, Mangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Congratulations Aida, Yes God has no language, but we are bound to proclam Jesus specially to ourselves & to our children atlest for which we need language and mother tounge is the best to use to give the best to the best people which will last with them, all the best aida.

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  • Lionel dsouza, Bangalore

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    DINESH POOJARYYOU DNT KNW THEN PLEASE DONT COMMENT...WE ARE NOT ASKING ANYTHING FROM THE GOVT....WE ARE ASKING FOR KONKANI IN LITURGY IN BANGALORE IN SPECIFIC...NO NEED TO COMMENT AND PROVE U R FOOLISH...WE KNOW THAT ALREADY...

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  • Lancelot N Tauro, Manglore - Doha Qatar

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    I doubt Dinesh Poojary from Kundapura speak in Proper Kannada, or Tulu or Konkany, The locality where he was brought up speak only Arekannada, aretulu mix and arekonkany. Everything is ARRE thats why he pokes his dirty nose here n there.

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  • Lancy Henry Moras, Bendur - Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    When I went through all comments one by one, I remembered golden words written by a Konkani poet read somewhere years ago:

    "Dhuli Thavn ayillin Dhulik Patin". Agmentache chaar thembe muskaraak podtana,
    "La Hilahi Illalla" thode udgartana,
    poishilyan thavn ek bolaadik bobat kanar amcha podath asli,
    "Ami jiklyavn, ami jiklyavn!" Konkni bashecha mornanth hangaser zagden korun ascha kona konachi jeek ?.
    Falyan kongi kitengi ?
    Somzana, hi kasli Jeek ?.


    True religious mother tongue comes by right from the birth from Mothers's womb. Are we not doing injustice to our own mother tongue ? The very first comment from Dinesh Poojary is so abusing as if Karnataka is found and ruled by his ancestors. Mr. Poojary, let you have a 'Kanishmar Lekka'in your own kundapura and let me/us know how many there of you speak Tulu language.

    My own saying "Pateruni malla malla, tinpuni sajjige" suites you very well. Keep this safe in your own skull's safe deposit locker and grow up my dearest brother.


    Yet with great respect I say "It is my Tulunadu and not Karunadu" though we are in Karnataka.


    Jai ho Kannada-Tulu-Konkani.

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  • John Pinto, Chickmagalur/ Doha

    Sat, Jul 21 2012

    Congratulations Mr Ronald Colaco, Konkani Prachar Sanchalan President Mr Ronlad (Roy) Castelino , Mr Eric Ozario Gurkar of Mandd Sobhann, representatives , with Chikmagalur district’s Catholic Konkani Rakan Sanchalan Secretary, Mr Edward Pinto and all the supporters of Konkani, for making an effort for Konkani in Liturgy , We are waiting for our Childhood memories to come true , where our Sunday masses were heard in Konkani .

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  • Frank, tulu nadu/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    kannadiga, Kudla.
    Dear Mr. who ever you are as are afraid of expressing your name. Although you are a tuluva, you are ashamed of claiming to be a tuluva like your good friend Mr. Pujari and you call yourself a kannadiga. You tell us do you want us konkanas to be like you who do not respect your own mother tongue. We konkanas are proud of our language and we are konkanas and not kannadigas or anybody else. You may be afraid of claiming to be a tuluva. We konkanas are not.

    As far as jobs in konkani companies are concerned, all over India people give jobs to their own people based on region, caste language etc. What is wrong if konkanas give jobs to their own people? if konkanas do not give jobs to their own people, Who else will give jobs to our konkanas?
    Do we have to be afraid of claiming to be a konkana like you are afraid of claiming to be a tuluva?

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  • Robert D'cunha, Bajpe/ Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Thanks to FKCA and other Members who have taken up the grievances of Konkani speaking Catholics in Bangalore and other parts of karnataka. We are proud of you.

    If we attend Mass in Konkani (mother tongue)during any occasions in Bangalore it brings us the feeling of Hometown and urge us to have Konkani Mass on every Sundays. Some of our Parents and aged relatives came from Mangalore and stay here for the rest of their life will be very happy, also the celebration of Liturgy becomes more devotional and meaningful for them.

    All the Best Wishes for FKCA for your future steps..

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  • Frank, Tulu Nadu/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    We Konkanas not only need konkani prayer services but also Konkani administration services as we do not understand kannada. Konkani should be made one of the official languages in karnataka. Unlike tamilnadu, kerala,Goa, Maharastra and andhra pradesh where most of the people are speakers of the respective languages of those states, karnataka is made up of multiple languages such as tulu kannada, kodava, telugu, tamil marati. Therefore Konkani, tulu kannada and kodava should have equal rights in karnataka. why should kannada enjoy special status?

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  • Frank, tulu Nadu

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Dear mr. walter, every body knows that God does not have any particular language. But humans have.there fore humans have to use a language in communication including prayers. Humans like their language, culture including in prayer services. is it right to force ones language on others? is it right to force kannada on konkanas? Do ,konkanas force their language on others? that is the debate. It is not about what language god speaks. Dear Mr. please do not pose yourself to be an Einstein.

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  • Frank, Tulu Nadu/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Dear Mr. Pujari. I am talking about konkani christians and not about english christians. Christians belong to many languages including tulu. Konkani christians love their konkani more than any other language. But do u tuluvas love your language. just no. Just look at south india, every dravidian language has a language has a state except tulu. if you had any respect for your mother tongue tulu you would have fought for tulu nadu a separate state. You have no respect for your own mother tongue, How can u advice me on my mother tongue? If you had as much love for tulu as much as I have tulu would have been in a different league. The kannadigas have made sure that tulu does not get recognition from the constitution. fight for your mother tongue Mr. Pujari. We Konkanas love our language and it is the no 1 language for us. I know tulu is not your no.1 language for you. Mr. Pujari just look at the no. of daiji viewers who completely disagree with you and know how far from truth you are

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  • Ms vaz, bangalore/mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Congratulaions team for the initiative and all the best.
    Mr. Plz dont poke ur nose unnecessarily and if you cannot see people doing good things just keep quiet. You dont have any right to speak all rubbish. May god bless you

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  • John William D Souza, Mysore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Its our right to pray in our own mother tongue.Nobody has the right to object it.So i wish FKCA in their endaevor

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  • Jacobnelosn, Bejai

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Dinesh!!!
    You better understand?
    Tulu is good language!
    But has no literatutr(lipi)

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  • Joy, Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Mr. Dinesh poojary,
    Please note how many agrre and disagree with your comments everytime you post one in any of the forums. You should be ashamed of yourself to still continue posting useless comments. Quit when prople in majority are against you in any forum.

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  • N. Frank, India/Ksa

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Walter, Kinnigoli/Mumbai

    God speaks only one language- "Love one another like you love yourself, and help your neighbour in need."

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  • Wilson Monteiro, Bankal / Chikmagalur

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Good initative and a positive move by FKCA towards our mother tongue Konkani as we feel our children dont even speak konkani language in chikmagalur diocise even inside the church premises.Time has come to resurrect konkani in the region particularly in chikamgalur diocise.its not only for Ericbaa/Ronaldbaa and his team its we the parishioneer should come together and fight for the cause long live konkani!!!!!

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  • Walter, Kinnigoli/Mumbai

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    God..let us know which language you speak ?

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  • Richard D'souza, Chikamagalur

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Iam so glad that the family of konkani is building up.May God bless every one of you and your family.Let it be a beginning for all our children having their mother tongue as prioriteroy."Devborikaur"

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  • pradeep, bangaloer

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Any move to have the liturgy or worship in one's language is welcome as it makes the ritual more meaningful. the demand to create an archdiocese covering the so called konkani speaking dioceses need not directly and purely help the cause of helping the language.

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  • Dolfy D'Cunha, Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    We hail in Bangalore & we are Konkani Catholics shifted from Bombay. In Bombay there was Konkani mass in all the languages including Konkani but in Bangalore Rajajinagar there is no Konkani mass we are uncomfortable to take part in non- Konkani Litergy.We need Konkani mass in Bangalore.There will be full support from our end for the above cause.FKCA is doing extremely well & we congratulate the team.

    Our demand is Genune.

    With Regards
    General Secreatry
    Rajajinagar konkani Catholic
    Welfare Association Bangalore

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  • Peter, Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Lets speak first Konkani at home.

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  • Alwyn Mendonca, Muchure\ bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    It is important for the Konkani speeking people to have the liturgy in our mother tongue.Further the celebration of the liturgy becomes more meaningful.I am sure many of our Senior citizens will enjoy the liturgy also it will help our children to continue our konkani culture & language.

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  • Ramesh Prabhu, Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Here in Mangalore a Chritian family is my neighbour and they are of very good
    nature.Sometimes whenever I go to their house in the morning or evening during their prayer time all members go inside for prayers for few minutes.It is in Konkani and i listen to it attentively.Hearing the prayer is so blissful.Their prayer in mother tongue in Konkani given me strength to do my devotion with more commitment.Even when ever our Bhatmam prays for us during any pooja occasion it will be touching and serves the PURPOSE of such holy occasions.SO Konkani Christians persuing for Konkani Liturgy in Bangalore is a very good and happy thing.All Konkanis/organisations should extend their support for this cause.Initiative also will be a step towards enriching and spreading the fragrance of Konkani language.

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  • Naveen DSouza, Sakleshpur/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Wonderful initiative by the delegation. Thanks to all reps. Liturgy in our own mother tongue is the need of the hour. Let us unite and convince the superiors that we are peace loving people and our demand is genuine.

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  • Divya Dsouza, Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Mr. Dinesh Poojary
    U better keep out of this issue. And please keep your suggestions/advices to yourself. Do not poke your dirty nose everywhere!
    Live your Life! Let others live their Life!

    I would like to congratulate FKCA for initiating this. we look forward for more and more launches towards our konkani culture. All the Best!!! Cheers!!!!!

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Language is for communication. No language is called a bad language. The essence, goodness and sweetness of the language will be realized and evident only when a person converses in that particular language. I do not say speak only in one language, no, speak in almost all languages whichever you can converse. Learn and teach as much languages to children not by compulsion but by free will. This is beneficial for himself for his own benefit.
    We are in this world as a world community. In the faith of Jesus Christ there is no barrier for language. He knows all languages.
    I like to speak in Tulu. Tulu is also a sweet language.
    I am speaking Konkani at home and out side.
    (Some Shetty young girls whom I know their mother tongue was tulu, when I and my wife pass by they started to speak in English/ an outward display of proudness by speaking English. If your mother tongue is tulu and if you converse in tulu are you degraded. Never. Some Christian's mother tongue is Konkani they speak in English to show their proudness. Are you degraded if you speak in Konkani. Never).

    If people do speak with me in Hindi I do speak,
    If people do speak with me in Tulu I do speak,
    If people do speak with me in Arabic I do speak chillare/shuve/shuve Arabic
    If people do speak in Tamil I do speak Konjum, Konjum
    If people do speak with me in Malayalam I do speak Korchu, Korchu,
    If people do speak in English I do speak English/ my favorite
    I like even Marathi language which is a mixture of Konkani, Kannada and Hindi. This is also a sweet language.
    DO SPEAK, IF KONGLISH NEVER MIND
    SPEAK IN ANY LANGUAGE.
    PLEASE DO NOT MAKE COMPULSION IN LANGUAGE.

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  • Wilfred Tauro, Madanthyar,Dubai

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Congratulations to all the members of FKCA AND OTHER KONKANI LEADERS like Ericbab, Ronaldbab, Gabrielbab are taking an initiative to include Konkani Liturgy in Bangalore. I was very much surprised to know that in our own land Bangalore Konkani Mass is not available to our own Konkani speaking people. In Dubai we have a mass in English,Malayalam,Tagalog(Philippines)Konkani,Tamil,Urdu, Sinhalese,Arabic, French, Italian languages. It is a high time to include Konkani Mass on sundays in Bangalore, espcially for elderly people who miss their own language.I am sure our Archbishop will grant permission for this. May God bless you all

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  • Adarsh Raj, Sullia/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Hi my friend dinesh poojary,Dont come up with baseless arguments.We konkani people have more respect towards kannada,tulu and kodava than what u have.Our motivation is to save konkani which is our mother tongue.After all who told you that karnataka is only for kannadigas and tulu speking people?Do you know which is the second largest language in karnataka after kannada? Do you why karnataka is called"Many worlds,one state"??? Are you aware of the konkani peole around the world fighting to save kannada?Dont argue like a small child fighting for "girgitti"...Jai karnataka,

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Frank, Tulu Nadu/Bangalore

    Tulu will be there as long as SUN continues to exist in this universe. Tulu is an academic subject now in schools. People of tulunadu use Tulu for conversation.

    But some of you openly said ENGLISH is Christians language. English is allowed in churches of Bangalore. Where does Konkani comes into picture? What is your problem now?

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  • kannadiga, Kudla

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Good comments by Dinesh Poojary. Konkanis does discrimination everywhere nowadays. They give jobs only to konkanis. Go to Manipal Group, Canara Bank, Canara College, Syndicate bank etc, Konkanis dominate. Even if others are well qualified and eligible, they prefer Konkani speaking people. They are language fanatic.

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  • Charles Menezes, Loretto/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Thanks for your iniatives FKCA we extend our full co-operation to implement this noble cause to worship in our mother tongue, a mass in Konkani on Sunday in all parishes in and around Bangalore which comes under Archdiocese Bangalore. We at Bangalore Konkani Catholic Sangh fully support your iniative
    Secretary, BKCS Koramangala

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  • Charles Menezes, Loretto/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Good iniative: we at Bangalore Konkani catholic sang, Koramangala requested the Papal
    deligation to have one mass in Konkani in our Parish St. Anotay's Friary Church Koramangala on sunday as we have around 1200 konkani speaking faithful families in our parish so that we can worship our Lord in our mother tongue Thanks for your support all konkani speaking people
    Secretary BKCS Koramangala

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  • Greaton Fernandes, Kundapur

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    No offense to any other languages, but we need Konkani mass in Bangalore, thanks to FKCA

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  • Judith D'Cunha, Kulshekar/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Congrats FKCA and all other delegates. We want Konkani and also no bias from the Priests of the Parishes towards Konkani people. All the best. Well done.

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  • V.Baretto, Bantwal-Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Congratulation FKCA.We members of the Rajajinagar Konkani Catholic Welfare Assn.too met the delegation at NBCLC on 17th July.We do agree, our State language is kannada but our demand of konkani is for liturgy and not for State Administration.

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  • R.Bhandarkar., M

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    'Konkaniche'Purai Sabeet. Jan, Bhasha, Pradesh, Saglai. Amche belt-'Konkan Belt'. Pishan Bari comment kartlyank 'don sodaje', thedala kalta 'Konkani Belt'
    kaale manoon- Yettat kahin thoron mon gothna-Pisshe sagle!

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  • Ramesh Prabhu, Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    @Dinesh Poojary,
    Try to know about Constitutionally recognised languagess.Your doubts about facts on various Indian languages will be dispelled.

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  • Frank, Tulu Nadu/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Dear Mr. Pujari, please note Konkanas never deny others right whether in Goa or anywhere else. It is the other way round. We Konakanas are not earnigh our daily bread free of cost whether in karnataka or in any other place. Just think of our contribution to India and karnataka and Tulu Nadu.Every body must be proud of their mother tongue. As far as your mother tongue is concerned Mr. Pujari, Tulu Language the language of Tulu Nadu has been side lined by none other than the tulu speaking people in Tulu Nadu. We tulu nadu people do not even have a separate state and gradually kannada is swallowing tulu. Why dont you fight for your mother tongue Mr. Pujari?

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  • Concerned Indian , Mangalore/ Rome

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Dinesh Poojary, Don't talk like an ignorant fool. If Konkanni does not have a place in Karnataka, neither will Tulu have. I find in YOU a language fanatic. Stop building walls as you have already been doing. Build bridges by accepting and accommodating people of all castes, creeds and languages. Just learn to be more tolerant. Just because someone wants Konkanni, it does not mean they hate or dislike Tulu or Kannada. Don't say go to Goa go here or there. Karnataka belongs to all human beings who want to live here.. If you are not a human being, its time for you to leave this world.

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  • jolvin, mumbai

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru, you forgot to put telugu. BSY and team is supporting Telugu in Bangalore & Around. you come to mumbai, in Muncipal schools are giving Kannada education to kannada speaking children. and there are at least you will find minimum 15 schools in mumbai. grow up man.

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  • Reshmi Salian, Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Go To Goa for Konkani. Karnaraka is for Kannada, Tulu and Kodava-Dinesh Poojary. Kundapura/Bengaluru.

    Very immatured and rubbish comment by Dinesh..You are Poojary so go to South Kanara. What you are doing in Bengaluru? Can I say that? Because of you people, the narrow minded, India won't develop. What is wrong if Konkani speaking people demand priority to konkani in their religious activities? They didn't ask priority to konkani in temples. So you better keep quiet and don't poke nose into other's activities.

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  • Frank, Tulu Nadu/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    This is a welcome move by the Konkani associations. Konkanas are not allowed to have konkani mass in most of the churches in karnataka. While people all over the world are free to use their mother tongue in liturgy, in Karnataka alone Konkani is not allowed. konkanas must have the opportunity to have separate dioceses all over karnataka and We should be free to have Konkani prayer services.

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  • Nithin, Udyawar/Muscat

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    @ Dinesh Poojary

    Your zero knowledge on local languages proves that u have no credibility to speak in this forum. Also you are proving to the daiji readers as to what kind of a fool you really are. Konkani is the language Of Mangalore Soil and is not evolved from Goa or abroad, nor it is a language of christians also. There is a large sect of Hindus who speak konkani including GSB, Chitrapur Saraswaths, Rajapuri and so on. Our own Hero Mr. Daya Nayak is from Konkani background. Famous Singer Mr. Puttur Narsimha Nayak's mother tongue is konkani, and ur brother Mr. Nagesh maam Nayak's mother tongue is also konkani. In your one statement you have abused not only konkani but also your konkani speaking hindu brothers. Lokks like you dont want them also to stay in mangalore. First of all do something good for society than puke out your retardation here.

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  • Victor Alvares, Mangalore/Muscat

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Wonderful initiative by the delegation. Thanks to all reps. We are all indebted to you forever. Liturgy in our own mother tongue is the need of the hour. Let us unite and convince the superiors that we are peace loving people and our demand is genuine.

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  • John D'Souza, Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    @Dinesh Poojary.First learn about languages.Take away all hatred from your heart.You will live longer.

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  • Vinod Monteiro, Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Appreciate the efforts .

    However this should start from Home …speak in Konkani with your children.… Say daily family prayers in Konkani …. And at the end ask blessings in Konkani. Konkani will surely survive with little efforts at home.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Melwyn, Mangalore/Dubai

    If you are drunk and read comments, it sounds different way.

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  • Gabriel, Sagar

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    The Second Vatican Council gave a clarion call to celebrate the Holy Eucharist and other liturgical celebrations in the language of the faithful. But it is an irony in the diocese of Shimoga and Chikmagalur the language of the majority of the faithful was sacrificed by introducing an another language. Now is the right time not to suppress the language of the majority of the faithful but to respect their religious sentiments and to celebrate in their own language.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Ramesh Prabhu, Mangalore

    Konkani is spoken by 7 lakh goans, 6 lakh people form Karnataka, 6 lakhs from MH, 2 lakh from Kerala and another 5 lakh from rest of the India/world.

    So in total 25 Lakhs. Out of that 30% of them are using it as second language, they accepted ENGLISH as first language.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    There are lakhs of kannadigas in Goa. Will Goans allow Kannada in churches, temples, academics etc?

    Konkani is vanishing. Goans adapted English, Hindi more. People can not protect their language in their own state, but they want their Language in other state. It is ridiculous.

    You have two rich languages Tulu and Kannada here. You are making your livelihood here. Use the language of the soil.

    You could not make livelihood in your state and migrated to Karnataka and Maharashtra to earn your bread and butter. Now you say, you want Konkani in churches. Tomorrow you will sing a different tune.

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  • Richard Crastha, Kasargod

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Kasargod can be a separate new Diocese, because in Kasargod District there are more than Seventeen thousand Konkani speaking Catholics . This New Kasargod Diocese can be added to Konkani Archdiocese.All round development of our people can be achieved if it becomes a new Diocese.

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  • Lancelot N Tauro, Manglore - Doha Qatar

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    DINESH POOJARY YOU dont POKE YOUR dirty NOSE IN THIS FORUM.
    Kalee pari lekka atth. Better mind your own business.

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  • Lawrence Saldanha, Shirva / Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    I am very much in agreement with the article presented by Mr.Gabriel Vas and other Christian leaders.Well done.It is the time to teach our new generation the importance of Konkani in all walks of life.We need konkani Liturgy on Sundays in our Parishes because many people who come to Bangalore from Mangalore and other Konkani Liturgical places are not able to reply in Kannada or English Liturgical Celebrations.Even some people are not able to Confess in Kannada or English.This is depriving them their fundamental rite.We had initiated mass in Konkani in our Parish in Bangalore on Sundays with the Consent of our Parish Priest and adjusting the time in between other Language Masses without disturbing the regular masses in Kannada, Tamil & English.In our Parish we have 60% people attending English Mass & 50% people attending Kannada mass are Konkani speaking.We had also arranged a Priest to Celebrate mass in Konkani. But it was foiled at the last moment because of the three language formula adopted by the Archdiocese of Bangalore. I have heard that in the Canon Law it is mentioned that if the particular language peoples presence is more than 20 or 30 percent than other language people , then there should be a Sunday mass in their Mother tongue. We are eagerly waiting to have Sunday Mass in our Mother tongue Konkani. As Mr.Ronald Colaco said we have to say our personal & daily family prayers in Konkani so that no body will forget their prayers & by this we should teach the prayers to our children & grand children.We appreciate the contributions of Mr. Ronald Colaco in Supporting the efforts of Konkani Organisations.Well done FKCA. All the best.

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  • N. Frank, India/Ksa

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    A loaf of bread may not last for ever, but would make life possible. but a piece of rock would last for ever, but has no life giving property.

    Our thinking should be based on facts, as to what is good and useful and be of benifit to people in the future.

    Your emotional outbust Tulu/Kannada will last for ever is as good as saying a skeleton lasts for ever.

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  • Melwyn, Mangalore/Dubai

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    @ Dinesh Poojary, Are you into TODDY business??? The reason i am asking you is below your comments sounds that way.

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  • JerryMoras.com, Canada

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Language is just means to reach end, Jesus. Jesus is the centre of the church and not language. Our worship should not be restricted to particular language but leave options faithful and clergy to decide. Frankly speaking, I don’t mind to attend any language religious service because my heartt works and not mind what I say or how I say is I don’t care. My expression in mind could be in Konglish but my relationship with God understood without any language Jesus came to the world for everyone.

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  • Edwin D'souza, Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Congratulation Team FKCA, we need Konkani Mass in Bangalore, we support for this cause and we have to make sure that our children will attend Konkani Mass in our parish one day... thats our dream and we will work for it.... Konkani people please support for this cause.....

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  • Ramesh Prabhu, Mangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    @Dinesh Poojary,Kundapur/Bangalore
    I really pity for your poor knowledge on landuages.First Konkani is not a migrated language.It is a language spoken by people about 7.6 million around the word with more concetration in Karnataka,Kerala,Goa and Maharastra.For your knowledge I tell you that among 23 languages(inld English) recognised in our Constitution Konkani is one.Konkani has rich heritage and Konkanis have immensely contributed to all most all fileds starting from freedom fight and there is hardly any field untouched by them.For furthr information I tell you that for your attaining this position also Konkanis have contributed undoubtedly.Pl dont be me conservative and desist from hurting the sentiments of of the people in the name of language.I also tell you that I am a Konkani and love immensely the language of my most loved Tulunaadu(Tulu) and always feel and wish that this language should also be included in the 8th Schedule of the Constitution.

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  • Darryl Lobo, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    What is the problem if you use Kannada? Leave language fanaticism. Keep Konkani inside the house.

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  • alwin, bejai

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    The representatives of organisations advocating konkani arch dioces and Konkani in Liturgy must clarify whether children and grandchildren attend konkani mass and understand konkani.Using force method and way in worship of god is not justifiable.Diocese of mangalore have started english medium schols in ever parish.Majority of christian children go english medium school only.The liturgy should in a language understable to the majority of children and people.otherwise very purpose of liturgy will be defeated.The organistions must clarify what is their member strenth to the total konkani catholic people.
    why you people interested in disturbing peace of church. instread you work for strenthening faith in religion.Do not bring dirty poitics to church and create division among same faith and religion

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  • Joel D Silva, Trasi / Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    I am optimistic on this approach...

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  • Alphonse Mendonsa, Pangla/Abu Dhabi

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    I am glad finally some one is taken a great initiative to give justice to Konkani Speaking People. Thanks FKCA and great konkani leaders Ronald, Roy, Eric, Gabriel Vaz and FKCA members. Yes being a large konkani speaking community in the state due to political and vested interest of some Kannada and Tamil people, our language took a back seat esp. in Bangalore. As Gabriel rightly said it was purly a political issue that devided our Bangalore Diocese between Tamil and Kannada and Konkani was left out. However, now we are I mean konkani people in large numbers it is high time that Bangalore Diocese give equal opportunity to our people to practice liturgical services in Konkani where is the more Konkani speaking people. Currently most of our children are either studying or having jobs in Bangalore they will definitely would like to attend Konkani Mass and other liturgical services and this issue is very serious. I hope the team who have heard our grievances will follow up with the ideas and requests. FKCA also should keep the pressure on until this issue is resolved. Secondly I also agree with creation of separate arch-diocese for Konkani speaking region. Finally Yes the Seminary in Bangalore should work only Under Karnataka Bishops and not Tamil Nadu. Hats off to all leadrs for taking up this important issue and wishing and praying that justice be done to our Konkani speaking people. Let us all pray for the success.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    After all it is a migrated language to this land. Some of you were telling ENGLISH is your language. Then what is konkani for you?

    Tulu and Kannada will last forever. JAI HO

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  • fr. Praveen Dsouza ofm, Nakre/Jerusalem

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Wonderful effort from this delegation. Its is important for the Konkani speaking people to have the liturgy in their own language. The konkani speaking people have been always active in parishes and normally do not involve in language politics. Further the celebration of the liturgy becomes more meaningful and fulfilling in ones own language. I wish many more people from the clerical side also join this movement. Let Konkani live long. Let us love our liturgy in konkani!!!

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  • John Louis Cunha, Bondel / Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    In Assumption Parish,Rajajinagar, Bangalore all the Konkani Catholics have signed a petition requesting for a regular Sunday Mass in Konkani and submitted the same to our Parish Priest in January 2012. Copy of the same has been submitted to our Archbishop in February 2012.

    So far we have not received any positive response. We met the Papal Delegation on 17-July-2012 and their attention was drawn to ground realities in our Parish through another petition which is as follows. "Church attendance on Sundays is less than 50% because all Holy Masses are offered only in one language and that language is the mother tongue of less than 10% of Parishioners. This Parish is in the heart of the city and linguistic break up is as follows (Konkani – 40%, Tamil – 35%, Kannada – 10%, Malayalam – 10%, Others -5%).

    We requested several times for Holy Masses in English, Konkani, Tamil & Malayalam in addition to Kannada. But authorities are not applying their minds. As a result less than 50% of Parishioners go to Parish another 10% go to other Parishes and remaining 40% plus don’t attend Sunday Mass at all. Which means 40% of Parishioners are non practicing Catholics. We can change this if we can have regular Sunday Mass in English, Kannada, Konkani, Tamil and Malayalam. Otherwise,

    Today the Parish is half dead situation will further deteriorate. Parish population is 4000 capacity of the church is 400 which means we should have 10 Sunday masses to accommodate all Parishioners. There are many Religious Priests living in the Parish whose mother tongue is Konkani / Malayalam / Tamil. Kindly use your good offices and grant us regular Sunday Masses in all languages."

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  • Romel, Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    We are konkani catholics. We need regular konkani mass on sundays in banlore. plz organize. its uncomfortable to take part in nonkonkani liturgy. Thanks for FKCA, Bangalore for initiating this.

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  • Prathap Rodrigus, Sakaleshpur/Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Hi all,

    We need to carry over the culture of Konkani and the liturgy which should be in Konkani. Now a day all are forgeting the konkani and we are losing our existance. In addition to this i support also having communication in Konkani at home which will defenately increase konkani awareness and importance.

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  • N. Frank, India/Ksa

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    As feared above, Konkani will eventually die. And so will many other languages.

    The only language that will be a global language will be English.

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  • Leena Lobo, Loreto, SEZARI Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Congratulations Team. Yes Konkani language needs priority in liturgy specially in Bangalore and Chickmagalore. We need to speak Konkani at home, teach our children and pray in Konkani too.

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  • Leena Lobo, Loreto, Bangalore

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Congratulations Team. Yes Konkani language needs priority in liturgy specially in Bangalore and Chickmagalore. We need to speak Konkani at home, teach our children and pray in Konkani too.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Fri, Jul 20 2012

    Go To Goa for Konkani. Karnaraka is for Kannada, Tulu and Kodava.

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