KRCE Demands Withdrawal of Std V, VIII Social Science Text Books

Fri, Jan 11 2013 09:22:26 PM

KRCE Demands Withdrawal of Std V, VIII Social Science Text Books

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Bangalore, Jan 11: The Karnataka Regional Commission for Education (KRCE), which represents all the Catholic Schools and Colleges in the State, has demanded withdrawal of current text books introduced during academic year 2012 for Std V for Social Science and Std VIII for Hindi as well as Social Science subjects for the alleged ''saffron taint and insertion of Hindutva ideology” by the BJP Government in the State.

''The Social Science text books of Classes V and VIII, which were introduced during the academic year 2012 are embroiled in controversy,” said Sr M Genevieve, KREC Secretary and the former principal of Mount Carmel College, Bangalore, and claimed that ''already different groups, including prominent scholars, raised concern over some deliberate omissions and additions, use of words, using matter out of context and tweeting of facts.”

She demanded that ''due importance has to be given for systematizing the non-Vedic knowledge and contributions of Dalits, Muslims and Christians and other marginalized sections of society in the field of history, culture, literature, art and science so that the Vedic knowledge system can be avoided and dominance of the ideology of the Hindutva groups can be curtailed to an extent in the syllabus of the texts.”

Sr Geneview advised the State Government to post the draft copy of the textbooks for Std I to IV, VI, VII, IX and X, which are being prepared for the academic year 2013 and onwards, to the interested groups prior to passing and printing to avoid ''anything objectionable” so that it would not inconvenience the Government.

The KRCE, Sr Geneview said, will be organizing a day-long State-level seminar on ''Combating saffronisation of education and suppression of the subaltern voice” at the St Joseph’s Girls High School at Frazer Town in Bangalore on January 12, Saturday, from 9 am.

Karnataka State Minorities Educational Institutions Managements Federations, Karnataka Dalit Christian Federation, Karnataka United Christian Forum, Karnataka State National Christian Council Institutions and Karnataka Unaided Minorities Schools Management Association are the co-sponsors of the seminar, which will be inaugurated by Archbishop of Bangalore Dr Bernard Moras and will have have several prominent scholars and educationists as the key speakers.

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Judith L, Mumbai
Tue, Jan 15 2013
I have never heard any blacks referring to Lord has Laud besides while writing you can always spell correct if you know the spelling. fail to understand if black children refer to the Lord has Laud what is harm for priest to write the correct spelling of Lord. I will like to see the priest if he is for real to refer the Lord has Lord and not Laud

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ajs, saudi
Tue, Jan 15 2013
Santhosh udupi.
With emotion or without emotion truth is truth.Black sheep is there in every community. we cant portrait whole community by picking of some wrong doers.No one need to justify for wrong thing done by someone else XYZ. Modi killed thousands of muslim and he is telling it is in retaliation. osama killed many americans and he was telling it is in retaliation. Hitler killed millions of jews and he was telling it is in retalliation. U know, all committed sin.. In retalliation how can one kill others who has nothing to do with this bull$#!t.
and word kafir means unbeliver of islam.its a arabic word for the term non muslim.what is wrong in that? why you are calling others as non hindu?
similarly cristians call others as non cristians. I dint understood what you want to say. I am sorry

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Molly, M'lore
Mon, Jan 14 2013
Jessie, Mulky
It's a wolf in a sheep's clothing!! seriously...

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Santhosh, Udupi
Mon, Jan 14 2013
ajs, saudi

I think you are becoming emotional here, come on....be practical, you cannot justify the terror activities by muslims just by telling 'those indulging in terrorism are not at all muslims' & it will not change the ground reality of terrorism & opinion of the people all over the world about terrorism, unless you should have genuine interpreter of Quran to your younger generation, in fact most of your people has been misinterpreted the word 'Kafir' as 'unbeliever of islam','infidel','polytheist',(same has described in Islamic Dictionary also)which is the main reason for the terrorism and disharmony in the society.

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Fr Ramesh Alviro Steamin Thappo, Puttur /London
Mon, Jan 14 2013
Jessie

Praise be upon the Laud

Thanks for attempting to correct my spelling. For your kind information, black kids in London call the 'Lord' 'Laud' with love and affection.
Anyway, since you wanted to be a grammar Nazi you should look up the correct usage of 'embarrassed' and 'embarrassing', elementary stuff really if you ask me.
As to why people are not going to church, I think a little bit of soul searching will help, for example, the mind numbing ignorance displayed by you here on this very page by assuming that your Xian name gives you moral superiority is one of the reasons people dont go to Church. Go back to the basics please, if not for yourself, for the Laud

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Prabhachandra, Udupi
Mon, Jan 14 2013
In India, Secularism means (for most of the Secular political parties) – Support (?) the minority at the cost of majority (only for vote bank). This will never lead to a secular India and is the root cause of the communalism. The religious books like Geeta, Bible or Quran can never propagate hatred in the society. It’s done by few perverted human minds. Just neglect them. Let them try all means to destroy our culture, remember “No one could destroy the INDIAN CULTURE in the past and No One can do it in future” because it is our soul.

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ajs, saudi
Mon, Jan 14 2013
Mr.Santosh.
Not only you even I respect swami Vivekananda.I selute that great man who came to earth with spiritual power.
What U said the ardent follower of Quran, they are not at all muslims and as the quran has no link to terrorism how can we say that they are ardent follower of Quran?Only those will say who dint read quran.
Quran says If anyone kill any human being as if he has killed whole of mankind. If someone killed mankind then he is saitan irrespective of his name abdul or ahmad. Quran tells to look equally those who are following othr religion and if our neighbour has nothing to eat and we dint helped him then we are not muslims.Then how you r linking quran with terrorism? Unfortunately many muslims also dont know quran as many hindus/cristians dont know about their scriptures and all divide people by their name not by his deeds. This is ignorance.
Eachone has his choise of worship provided he will not hurt others.

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Jessie, Mulky
Sun, Jan 13 2013
Fr Ramesh Alviro
U have asked me r u real? It is so embarrased to call you a priest u have used such a strong words, u cant even spell the world 'Lord'. No wonder in this 20th centuary no one intrested in priest's sermon and we are just happy in believe/following the Bible without any priest. hope this is the basic reason christians stop going regularly to church !!

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Santhosh, Udupi
Sun, Jan 13 2013
ajs, saudi

I did'nt get you what's the point you want to prove by saying most of the hindus don't follow Swamy vivekananda!!!, is there any violence/harm in the society by doing Idol/image worship or not following Swamy Vivekananda??? We respect his views, but way of worshiping the god it's our wish unless there is no harm to the society.
Don't you think you should be more concerned about those who are inspite of ardent follower of Quran plays major role in todays Voilence/Terrorism activities in the society????

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Fr Ramesh Alviro Steamin Thappo, Puttur /London
Sun, Jan 13 2013
Jessie

Praise be upon the laud

Are you for real? is that even an argument that you have presented?. What you are basically saying is that the negative things that happen in India is to be termed as 'Indian culture', you bring up straw man arguments and dish out randomly memorized google buzzwords like 'bride burning' 'untouchability' etc. These practices are not inspired by the vedas, just like burning witches isnt inspired by the Holy Bible( peace be upon it)or for that matter walking into a school and firing indiscriminately (is that part of western culture)Get some balance in your statements instead of frothing in the mouth kind of responses. I think you are so deracinated that there is little hope for you unless you follow the instructions in the holy book word for word. Finally, just having a 'westernized' name doesnt qualify you to be morally superior to the indigenous people, it is quite the opposite actually, the indigenous people have the genes of those who chose to fight, those with westernized names are off- springs of those who laid down their arms. Respect and be respected as it is said in the Bible,verse no 34 psalm no 66 . Dont live in a fool's paradise thinking that you are somehow superior to those following the indigenous culture. I can only LOL at you as you are the type of people who make spreading God's word more difficult

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ajs, saudi
Sun, Jan 13 2013
Santhosh udupi,
What u r quoted is out of context. That verse for war. You read earlier verse of it then you will understand.
In mahabharata Lord Krishna told Arjuna to Kill their cousins in battlefield. that is war aginst falshood. It will be out of context if I tell that Bhagvadgeeta tells to kill our cousins!!
LOGIC!!
I have no problem in your worship. Thats your intrest. As per swami vivekananda hindu should follow veda and he should be called as Vedantist. Only some of hindus following swami vivekananda and not all..

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Shanthi, UAE
Sun, Jan 13 2013
Dayananda
First check indians if they know/remember/follow swami vivekananda and then u move to the West!Indians are only crazy abt shahrukh, amitab and the cricket. Westernerns got much better personalities to follow them

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Jessie, Mulky
Sun, Jan 13 2013
Fr Ramesh Alviro Steamin Thappo, Puttur /London Which indian culture Westerns are highly respecting ? The Man dominated indian culture? killing bride by pouring kerosine? Caste system ? untouchables? dowry....The hindu outfits like Rama sene, shiva sene which bullying people or our great corruption .........

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rishad, karkala
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Mr. Santhosh, Udupi,

Have u read the Great holy Book Quran....? if yes can you quote the line ("kill the kafir (non Muslims)" )from which part of the QURAN..? If No please don’t say or pass to someone else about Quran without correct evidence or knowledge . which the line your mentioned it is out of context. This line refer to battle field not for normal days.

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Reema Shetty, Mangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Dear Shail,

because our ancient scientists are hindu rishi muni's. That is the problem wit KRCE, they want to teach only about Greek scientists not about our own Indian scientists.

Its KRCE which is communal..disgusting !!

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Rizvan Ahamad Thoorankoya Aaduputtadil, Kasaragod/Dammam
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Alhamdulillah I totally agree with KRCE and demand withdrawal of these books.Islam and Christianity are religions of peace and we practice what we preach.Fr Steaminthappo's observations are very correct.The periods of Islamic conquest of India and Christian civilisation of India are marked by peace and progress and prosperity.The textbooks should give a total picture of Indian history and not only a single biased picture.Madrassa's are leading the way in providing wholesome,modern,peaceful education and our alumni are passing the divine message in places as far flung as Kashmir.Xinjiang,Israel,Bali,Nigeria and Morocco.We protest the painting of our religions in a bad light.

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munna, mangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Dear santhosh don't blame QURAAN. Please read properly than comment please.

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Santhosh, Udupi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumba

Exactly, since we did'nt find any bomb in the book we did'nt made it a issue at our time even the whole book was about a Chritianity, in that case now why these KRCE, & other catholic forums acting like found Bomb!! & making it a big issue just for the ion of few facts about Hindutva ideology????

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MKS, Udupi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Looks like we are in a Gulf/ countries where the rules of land is followed strictly. I studied in Catholic school (1973-1979) where morning & evening prayers are the part of Bible & we with Muslim classmates required to sing bible prayer. Evening after prayer Jana Gana Mana were chanted by every student. Other than bible songs nothing being prayed. Even we have been given red color Bible-a tiny book to take home and read. We student & catholic teachers till today like so much & respect like our parents. My parents /family/community around the school known about this those days and never made a communal. I d’t understand What is the problem in introducing or learning Vedas or any other religious subject for knowledge purpose . Why u guys communalizing this issue.

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Santhosh, Udupi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
ajs, saudi

Agree with you "Veda says "NA TASYA PRATIMA ASTI" meaning - of that god there is no images."
But you should know that Veda also says GOD IS EVERYWHERE like what we hindus worship IDOL/IMAGE we see god in it so we worship it, so 1st you need understand the Vedas properly then comment here, tell me one thing what's wrong in worshiping idol/image will it cause any violence or harm to the society? unlike you people following the quran which says "kill the kafir (non Muslims)" & what we witness it today in the form of Terrorism all over the world.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai
Sat, Jan 12 2013
@ Santhosh, Udupi,
We aslo learned about Ramayana and Mahabharata.
In School days I was also given a book of Swami Vivekananda.
We didn't take it as hidden agenda
and made a issue of it.
What could be there in a book other than wisdom and knowledge? There wasn't a Bomb ?
In open mind we read it and are very happy about it !

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ajs, saudi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Mr. Nayak..
sex or nun stories is nothing to do with whole community? it is individual nun not the cristianity? like terrorists in hidus/muslims..they dont represents hinduism or islam. isnt it?
Dont take example of blacksheep and portrait whole community.. daijiworld readers are literate

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ajs, saudi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Mr, Dayananda..
If Veda is foundation of Hinduism. Y dont majority of hindus following it. Veda says "NA TASYA PRATIMA ASTI" meaning - of that god there is no images. Why you are worshiping images of god??
Veda says God creates brahmins from his head,kshatriya from his chest and shoodra from his feet!!! Why god is unjust here? Why dint he created all from head or all from foot?and who created non hindus?

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Santhosh, Udupi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
I would like to share a fact here which i experienced in my school days. I have studied in a catholic school in udupi where once whole of our class had given with a book which was realated to christianity contains some 400-500 pages having red colored cover page & we had been told to complete the study of the book in 15 days.
Here we as students did'nt know the agenda behind it or worried about the book, but worried about reading it along with our syllabus. I have that book still with me even today.

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Fr Ramesh Alviro Steamin Thappo, Puttur /London
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Dear Monica

I dont think you have the god given right to speak on behalf of the people of the west. Your opinion is perhaps formed on the basis of the people you interact with. Now I will not doubt what you have said if your interactions are limited to chicken and chips shop crowd, or those standing in a queue for handouts, to put it in a better way, people like yourself. IF you broaden your horizons and interact with more civilized people then you will be surprised by the amount of respect that people have for Indian culture. This coming from a priest should be an eye opener for you

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JR,
Sat, Jan 12 2013
THIS SHOWS NO BODY WANT PEACE BUT AT THE BEHEST OF MINORITY RAISE ISSUES IRRELEVENT AND SPLIT THE SOCIETY AND RULE, PARTICULARLY MISGUIDING THE STUDENT COMMUNITY THRU SOME ISSUES AND THAT IS WHY OUR SOCIETY IS HEADING TO SUICIDE, HARRASMENTS, MURDER AND SO ON.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai
Sat, Jan 12 2013
@ C K DAYANANDA, MANGALURU,
Righteous persons will never speak against VEDAS.
Righteous persons will never speak against Swami Vivekananda or Gandhiji! or someone like them.
They were great unifying forces they gave high esteem to Hinduism in the whole world!
Analyze, there are MANY righteous, But sadly some are not, they really speak hatred, speak utter lies, harm the peaceful, and do all acts against the teaching of Vedas & Swami Vivekananda.
But they call themselves his stanch followers!
In fact,these radicals bring more disgrace to their religion than other communities!

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Reema Shetty, Mangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Very well said Nagesh Nayakji

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Shail, Mangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Is it including chapaters about, our ancient scientists is communal..?

Is it changing name from Indus valley civiliasation to to Sindhu civilisation is communal(only coz it is the real name as per rig veda !)?

They should feel proud of this instead of taking it in communal way.

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PRASHANT, MANGALORE/DUBAI
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Dear Readers Vedas / Upanishads we are all studied in high school time education. Vedas like Yajur /Sama / Rig and Atharvana. These are the Indian Culture,Tredition and History.Why now some peoples / groups demand for withdrawal and make big issue.

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Venkat, Kaikamba, MANGALORE.
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Ajith Mangalore, our children are taught now that, moghuls never attacked india and tried convert the people here poor people on their own embraced the other faith voluntareely thousands of temples were not destroyed by the invaders to build their place of worships and catholics never converted poor peope into their faith Now what next - I think one day our children will read in their text books that Hindus migrated from other parts of the world to India!!!

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Santhosh, Udupi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Look at the Sponsors of the seminars!!!! which clearly shows all are backed by KOMU SAUHARDA to create 'KOMU GALABE'.

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Monica, M'lore, Canada
Sat, Jan 12 2013
C K DAYANANDA, MANGALURU
No one knows Swami Vivekananda here. Here in the West, they just dont accept anything fm third world countries like India/Pak/Bangladesh,, these 3 countries...they all same for them. sorry but true!!

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nagesh nayak, bangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
THERE IS A INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY TO DESTORY HINDUISM IN A PHASED MANNER.

ON EVERYDAY , EVERYBODY COMMENTS, SPEAKS AGAINST HINDUISM UNNECESSARILY.

THERE ARE " N " NUMBER OF PROBLEMS WITHIN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

RECENTLY OUTLOOK MAGAZINE COME OUT IN DETAIL WITH HEADING " SEX, CURCHES & NUN STORIES OF KERALA"

LET THEM READ FIRST OUTLOOK MAGAZINE & COMMENT ON COMMUNALISATION.

HINDUISM IS THE MOTHER OF ALL RELIGION.

SANSKRITH IS THE MOTHER OF ALL LANGUAGES.

ALL THE TODAYS SCINTIFIC , ASTRONOMY, MEDICAL ,SURGERIES WERE EXIST IN INDIA LONG LONG BACK.

HINDUISM BELEIVES IN " VASUDAIVA KUTAMBAKKAM" & " ATHITHI DAIVOBHAVA" .

BUT ATHITHIS ARE UNFORTUNATELY BECOME " DEVVAAS"

JAI HO HINDUISM.

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Prashanth, Mangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
@ Ajith, Dont link two things here. VEDA NEVER TEACHING TO HURT SOMEONE it preaches only PEACE

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Prashanth, Mangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
This is just HATE propaganda and disrespecting Hindu values by some missionaries educational institutions. Do they accept or protest if those text book included lesson about Jesus Christ?.....

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Tom Cat , Mangalore
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Third class party coming out with third class elements. Just because they like the monkey everyone should accept.

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C K DAYANANDA, MANGALURU
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Swami Vivekananda spread our Vedic knowledge to the West and the same is being recoginsed all over the world.

It is unforturnate that on the 150th birth aniversary of Swami Vivekananda we are reading this news item.

When Vedas have preached universal brotherhood by saying "Vasudhaiva Kutumabakam", why these people are against Vedas?

Immediately on the back of Owaisi calling for destruction of Hindus, these missioneries are demanding removal of Vedas from our text books.

Vedas are foundations of Hinduism and without Vedas only skeleton of Hinduism will remain.

All these days, these people were trying to stab Hindus from the back and now they are striking at the very base of our Dharma.

All of us should understand the hidden agenda of these people and vote the BJP in the coming elections with huge majorities to save and strenghthen Hinduism in our motherland.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai
Sat, Jan 12 2013
@civilized Ape, Earth
Vedic education is NOT communal!
Indian culture, yoga, music is in fact VERY GOOD! Whole universe accepts it.
Problem is with radical elements,
using matter out of context and tweeting of facts !

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S.M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, udupi
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Very well said Ajith, Mangalore.

Good Job done by KRCE.

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civilized Ape, Earth
Sat, Jan 12 2013
what losers. Vedic education is communal? guys, Indian culture is the one which gave the world many things - yoga, music, cultured civilization & teaching our own culture is communal? remember for, someday you'll be searching for it & it will be gone.

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Fr Ramesh Alviro Steamin Thappo, Puttur /London
Sat, Jan 12 2013
Praise be upon the Lord!
This is a serious issue that needs further investigation. Children should be shielded from this poison being propagated by the Sangh Parivar stooges posing as academics. Here in London, there was a similar hue and cry about the syllabus in Saudi sponsored schools, all that was hushed up however after a fat bribe was paid. Anyway it is okay when the conflict is between the people of the book. In India, however, it is prudent that the natives be discouraged from cultural nationalism. It goes without saying that cultural nationalism is antagonistic to doing God's work.
Peace be upon you and yours
I would welcome further feedback

Fr Ramesh Alviro Steamin Thappo
Church of Mother Mary
Horeditch London SE1 2PE
447913675890
frthappo@mmevangelist.co.uk

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Ajith, Mangalore
Fri, Jan 11 2013
Good move.If we dont fight these safron elements one day our children will be taught that Nathuram Godse is Father of Nation and Mahatma Gandhi killed him.

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jeevan, mangalore
Fri, Jan 11 2013
All stupidity... Punya koti is also communal story.. then what else we can expect from this group ??? I am sure today to tomarrow Swami Vivekananda might become aggresive hinduvatha leader in eyes of this pseduo secularist...

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Vivek, Udupi
Fri, Jan 11 2013
Good job. We do not need madarasa style education in India. we acknowledge and honour the smallest contribution made by the smallest community to the development of India

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Charles D'Mello, Pangala
Fri, Jan 11 2013
What we can expect from this BJP government...The main reason they came to power by communal agenda and it will not last long as people of India has already understood this gimmick.....!!!!????? It is just a matter of time to bite dust...!!!???

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai
Fri, Jan 11 2013
Deliberate omissions and additions, use of words, using matter out of context and tweeting of facts should be STRONGLY protested!
It is like Mr. Anil Ambani (Reliance) including Shri. Narendra Modi in the league of Mahatma Gandhi!
TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL !

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