Two more judges recuse from hearing seer's case


Bengaluru, Jan 23: (DHNS) Two more judges of the High Court recused from hearing the case related to Ramachandrapura Mutt’s seer Raghaveshwara Bharthi, booked on the charge of raping a Ramakatha singer.

On Thursday, when the matter came for hearing before a division bench comprising Justice H G Ramesh and Justice Pawan Kumar Bhajantri, both the judges recused to hear the matter.

Justice H G Ramesh said that when he was an advocate, he had practised under the guidance of senior counsel B V Acharya and it would not be right to hear the matter as the latter was appearing for the seer. Justice Ramesh even asked Advocate General Ravivarma Kumar if it was right on his part to continue the case knowing that Acharya had been his senior. Justice Bhajantri too said that he will not hear the matter and recused himself.

However, the AG said that it was upto the discretion of the judge. Justice Ramesh is the fourth judge to have recused to hear the writ appeal filed by the seer seeking quashing of FIR against him. Previously, Justice K N Phaneendra, Justice Ram Mohan Reddy and Justice N Kumar had recused.

  

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  • Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    The successive Judges resigning from the Bench is the best proof that our Swami is 100% innocent, despite all the fabricated or false evidences.
    Also, in recognition, of the extraordinary social work done by the Swami and the Mutt, this Govt should have actually awarded him a Padma Award on this Republic Day.

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  • Ananth Sharma, Bengaluru

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    @ Kapikad

    You are so correct!

    Also the judges resigning from the honourable Bench has nothing to do with corruption as many allege or are misinformed. It is their privilege.
    Even at the final stage of any case, however high profile it maybe, a judge can always recuse without assigning any reason in public.

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    Why don’t people understand that even at the final stage of any case, however high profile it maybe, a judge on the High Court Bench can always recuse himself, without assigning any reason whatsoever.

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  • suresh sharma, Bangalore

    Mon, Jan 26 2015

    great.....and in India....blr etc
    Really?

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  • Subbayya Varmudi, Mangalore

    Mon, Jan 26 2015

    @ Mohandas Kapikad

    Of course, the Swami deserves the Padma Bushan!

    Meanwhile, the over-crowded convicts in the Parappana Agrahara Jail have been eagerly waiting their new colleague for so long.

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  • Ramachandra Pailoor, Mumbai

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    Not only was Shama Shastry threatened and later died controversially (all evidences hushed-up including crucial mobile call records) but the Godman and his goons successfully continue to torture his widowed, jobless wife and two young, innocent kids!

    It may be shocking to hear but the powerful cartel of affluent supporters has ensured that even milk is not supplied or available to the grieving family! Ironically, once upon a time, the Godman was himself promoting cows, Indian milk..etc. I wonder if the members of the bench are aware of this?

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  • Ajith Hegde, Bangalore

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    @ Pailoor

    Very sad to note. It is tragic indeed, especially from the so-called saviour of cows.
    They say “vinash kale viprit buddhi!”

    Unlike all his predecessors, this careless Swami (who claims to be a reincarnation of Lord Rama, although a Ravana going by his actions) has never done any good deed to a single member of the community except a privileged few.

    Look at any TV channel having a discussion on the controversial Swami and his now proven adventures with materialistic bliss, women and society. Every single person supporting him is a thug who is ruthlessly determined to shout and silence anyone else, attempting to humbly put forth a sincere and honest view point!

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  • Dattatreya Hegde, Sirsi

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    Unlike the most respected Shringeri seer and mutt that never indulges in non–religious or non-spiritual activities or money laundering, leave alone real-estate projects, dance & music programmes, personal relationships with bollywood film stars and sexy dancers, endless phantom scholarships, liaison with crooked politicians & mafia dons...et al, the devotees of this most controversial Swami will all agree that the mutt has been successfully transformed into a thriving business establishment with huge financial resources. Considering all this, what is wrong if the Swami follows normal business tactics which obviously includes bribes, threats and corruption!

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  • Edurkala Ishwar Bhat, Puttur

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    The 7th Std pass Swami who apparently is still attempting to hoist his own family member as his successor (along with fake jataka and such) has consistently and shamelessly crossed the line from the spiritual to the temporal to the material, by his many shocking acts and careless misdeeds all these years, in total defiance to the traditions and rules, the community and its reputed history.

    The rape case is just a tip of the iceberg. The authorities ought to investigate the highly corrupt math administration, money-laundering activities, woman’s programmes, personal audiences, real estate projects, pseudo goodwill initiatives and so many more. The Math really needs to be open to public scrutiny under the Right to Information Act.

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  • Suresh Kav, Manipal

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    One has to be downright wet behind the ears not to guess that the shameless Swami, and corrupt supporters have bribed all the key people. Having got all the circumstantial, documented and material evidences including DNA (although not needed under section 375 of IPC), the bench was due to deliver final judgment and relevant punishment in Dec, but for shocking reasons that stinks of corruption and a total mockery of justice, the case has been dragging on and on.

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  • Manohar Bhat, Mangaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    @ TTS
    Court observes circumstantial & stringent evidence, evidence beyond any suspicion, material facts, enquiry details, statements of all parties relating to episode, etc. & not anyones muscle or money power.

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  • Langoolacharya., Belman/Washington,DC.

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Middle East mai,

    I think Swamiji is brahmachari as he is supposed to be and hence innocent....

    Any way, what you want?

    Do you have anybody in middle east who can take over peeta if Swaimiji vacaates it in disgust???

    What can be done if later on if he is found innocent???

    Do you know withhin 10 minutes of a judge delivering judgement even before it was typed and signed by registrar of the court Police were at swamiji's mutt to arrest him,,, what you call this??? POlice State?, Banana republic?? Perhaps Judges know about this and don't want to have anything to do with this....

    By the by where is Rajiv now???

    ...JH...

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  • Clifford Fernandes, Toronto

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    The swami as per the rules, has under an oath, promised to be a celibate till he remains the swami in that math. Now according to press report, the question is whether it was a rape or consensual sex. It is proved by DNA test that he has not kept his oath of remaining celibate. Is it not that he has cheated the math and his innumerable followers ? Is it okay for the math and for his followers to still respect him as swami ?

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  • Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    @ Cliff
    Where is it proved that he had done it ? It's just your imagination as result of hype created by some media. Leaked Lab Report reveal that DNA of either of parties is absent. Means if DNA of Male is found, no DNA of female or vice a versa. In one cloth DNA of 2 male is found without any female trace. Note that DNA tallies with hair only & nothing else, & this is simply easy to do. Does it mean any activity has occured ? Either if it was by force or consent, DNA of both should have been found in Mixed form. Isn't it ? Anydoubts ask this with any Doctor you know. Even AG was intelligent in mentioning that it was positive, & kept silent with other aspects. Even it was true as per his own words, he would have filed Chargesheet by now. Isn't it ? Would he have kept buying time indefinetly ?.... Just have patience till all this details are brought in Court, & we can know the real truth. Devotees know that this is nothing but pure conspiracy, & they are waiting for Court to complete its proceedings & verdict is received.

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  • SB, Kpur

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Few press and few people including AG says DNA testis positive. Then why they have failed to furnish the detailed test report in front of the court? The court hasnt said DNA test is positive. If just a few set of people partial to one party tells the test is positive then why there is a requirement of Court? If he has cheated Mutt he wouldnt have got the support of lakhs and lakhs of disciples.

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  • Pavithra Bhat, Mangalore

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    @ Cliff

    It is not just a case of being celibate, the shameless youngster has shockingly broken every single sacrosanct rule and historic traditions of the Mutt and community.
    Today, the Swami does not have an iota of support among the Havayaka community any more, both in South and North Kanara, except pockets of diminishing cronyism from those corrupt followers who have over the years gained and accumulated massive wealth! Having initially split the community, finally all the key members of the inner-circle are exclusively from the Sharma & Sharma clan!

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  • Narayan Bhat M, Putturu

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    I wonder why some here tag withdrawal by Judges to Swamiji ?.. In fact, it is duty of State to see that Justice is maintained, speedy Trial & filing of Report, etc.. Swamiji has co-operated for 50 hrs enquiry on Record & present over 200 hours in total before IA. Question still persists as to why State never insists IA to finish enquiry, file report, etc. A similar situtation was occured during Kanchi Swamiji case, wherein it was felt that State was unnecessarily medling into investigation with malified interest, & so the case was transfered to Pondicherry. So do was the case of Jayalalitha which was transferred to Karnataka.
    Definetly, with these developments it has given rise to impression to public that State is going out way in harrassing him...& more interested in humaliting him than providing Justice. Something like a saying goes 'Justice delayed is Justice denied'...

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  • TTS, Kadri

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    At present he is a an accused.Indian judiciary system doesn't see seer or sanyasis.If proved guilty then punishment Kattitta Butti.

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  • Gopal, Mangalore

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    @ TTS
    If he is proved innocent & she is proved guilty, punishment for her is 'ಕಟ್ಟಿಟ್ತ ಬುತ್ತಿ'

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  • TTS, Kadri

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Gopal

    Yes if money and muscle power is used.

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    This clearly shows that judiciary in Karnataka is religiously biased and this lady won't get justice. I suggest this case should be moved to supreme court.

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  • JNB, Bejai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME KARNATAKA GOVERNMENT CAN APPOINT JUDGE FROM TAMIL-NADU.

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  • NS, Mlore

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Hmmm.....Whats happening. Something is very suspicious. So many judges reclusing???
    If Swamiji is innocent why dilly dalling. Something is not right.

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  • Suleman Byari, Udupi

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Karnataka is land of Hypocrites.....

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  • Rudolf, Mumbai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Making a mockery of the judicial system, there is some strong reason for such a thing to happen, think there is no such precedent in 5 judges wriggling out citing one reason or the other!! Jai Hind!!

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  • Alchemist, mangalore

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Better transfer it out of karnataka...Unseen hands are playing their wicked game...accused both have political sympathy and public sympathy which the poor victim lacks....
    I request my brothers in this forum dont save the accused until proved innocent...baba assaram too had poltical.sympathy and public sympathy recently one of the witness of the case was murdered this shows deadly tentacles and dark side of power in the name of spirituality....you need to think victim as your own sister ....

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  • G Z T Kunte, Udupi

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    ಧಾರ್ಮಿಕ ನೇತಾರರು ಎಷ್ಟೇ ದೊಡ್ಡ ತಪ್ಪು ಮಾಡಿದರೂ ಅದು ಅಪರಾಧ ಎನಿಸುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. ಅದು ಲೀಲೆ ಎನಿಸುತ್ತದೆ! ಉಜಿರೆ ಸೌಜನ್ಯ ಅತ್ಯಾಚಾರ-ಕೊಲೆ ಪ್ರಕರಣದಲ್ಲಿ ಸಿ‌ಬಿ‌ಐ ತನಿಖೆ ಸಹಾ ಪುಸ್ಕ ಆಗಲಿಲ್ಲವೇ!

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  • Gopal, Mangalore

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    ಆಪಾದನೆ ಮಾಡಿದ ಮಾತ್ರಕ್ಕೆ ಒಬ್ಬ ಆಪರಾಧಿಯಾಗುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. ಪೂಣ೯ ತನಿಖೆ ಆಗುವವರೆಗೆ ಕಾದರೆ ಸತ್ಯ ಹೊರಗೆ ಬರುತ್ತದೆ. ಅಷ್ಟೆ !

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    As your notion,

    Reddy is not an Corrupt/looter

    BSY..nonono!!!

    Robert vadra... yes?

    even murder and rapist accused also nononay?

    With out prima facie evidence court will not accept. On other hand Police will file B-REPORT if there is no material or false allegation.This case scientifically prima facie established bu whether it is a rape or consensual is the question to be decoded.

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  • ramesh, moodabidri

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    swami, thaavu saujanya casenalli dharmika nethaararu tappu maadiddaare yendu hege helutheeri?Nyaya kodalu thaavu nyaayadishare? write with some sense,if you don't have that atleast have some proof to tell something!!

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    It happens only in INDIA?But why judges are excusing not hear the case?These Judges are looking like laughing stock.Either Court must absolve the seer or punish him based on materials placed by prosecution.Such recuse by judges for trivial reasons will certainly make this case more interesting.

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  • Gopal, Mangalore

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    @ Ismailji

    It looks like there isn't evidence to proove him guilty. AG had told in Court itself that he would go ahead & file a Chargesheet. But till today they haven't done it ! Why ?.. Also, besides repeated instructions a portion of Lab Report is not filed even today. Why ?.... Once it is done, the case will move out of hands of Agency ! In fact, the first Judge withdrew as she had given a letter to President stating her non-confidence in him. So as moral duty he withdraw. Now question arises on frequent withdrawal !... Question arises now on both Agency & Power People, especially HM & CM...

    Hope Justice Previals..that's all..

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  • Af, mangaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Impose huge penalty on judges those who are running everything will come alright.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Why cant they be slapped with "CONTEMPT OF COURT" ...

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  • Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Truth & Myth !......

    # Tracking the Reality & Truth, & making the Allegation a Reality are different issues. If Truth is to be tracked, no Power should interfere in Justice. But is it now a reality ?
    # Our AG has been present in every case since begining. Though it is not a must & he can just oversee it, why is he so much interested in this case ?
    # Are our Rulers interested or hellbend in defaming him ? Why our IA has so far not filed a B Report or Chargesheet after months of investigation ? neither in Blackmail case or in later on !...
    # AG had said DNA being positive, but never mentioned further !.. If it was true & as per his statements, he should have definetly filed Chargesheet by now, but still now no progress !.. In fact, Lab Report was not submitted untill repeated instructions was given, & even today a portion is not submitted. Why ? ? ?...
    # Perhaps its duty of HM or CM to protect our Judiciary system. Are they really serious here ? Why so far our People are feeling insecure ? Are some unseen hands still operating ?
    # Our strength of IA is beyond doubt a good one. Isn't it fair that it be out of control of HM, so that unbaised enquiry be done ?
    # Most here blame Swamiji for Judges retierment. In fact Judiciary system is different from religious belief & why should we link it to him ? Question should be asked to our CM & HM, & not other people...for their frequent withdrawals..
    # Everyone knows that one of close relative of our HM is in close terms with her daughter, as per photos shown in a kannada monthy magazine . Are there reasons to doubt that some influence is on to tarnish him ?
    # Do our IA lack grounds to prove reality ?... or Medical Tests have failed to prove guilty ?...... or under influence of some unseen hands ?.... or our Rulers going beyond limit in defaming him ?.... or he is really innocent & some Unseen hands are hellbent in overthrowing him, & have failed in all respects, & are still making efforts to keep the matter alive ?.....

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  • jacintha, middle east

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    If in any case, one party is able to threaten, buy, influence the judiciary, then they can withdraw? Isn't this a trend setter?

    I do not know who is wrong, but if the swamiji is innocent and there is sufficient proof to prove this, then what is the matter?

    Surely evidence can't be fabricated by one lady and her associates (whoever they are). They can't be bigger than the devotees and the swamiji

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    It looks like, only Ravivarma Kumar is sitting on his ego and out to malign someone!

    Anyway the lady wants "arrest and he should quit Peetha" and not justice!! serves her right...

    Recently National Herald case also went like this! Judge recused himself in the last minute and transferred it to new bench, when it was supposed to take up the case for daily basis till the finish!...

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  • Ravi B Shenava, Mangaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    If in PSU Bank OR Govt Offices if an employee refuses to complete any work given to him and ask the Manager to relieve him from that unwilling work then immediately disciplinary action is initiated against him because as per service conditions no Govt employee can refuse to do the work entrusted to him by his superiors.
    Then how come the same rule is not applied to Judges even though they are also Govt Employees ?
    Why not deduct their Salary for this dereliction of duty OR initiate disciplinary action ?

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    No.. courts dont work like that!.. Judge should disclose his prior interaction/conflict of interest/friendship or if he knows any of the parties on personal level!>. not that, it is a must.. but its his discretion!! ... and here the lady herself wanted Phaneendra on flimsy ground! she wrote a letter wanting the judge out!! now it looks like all Judges have ganged up and want out of this case... she will understand how it feels if she points fingers at any one!!

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  • KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Shevanare....If a peon/clerk/officer found guilty of misapproriating even rupees Rs.100 and if proved he will be charged cheeted,suspended and dismissed from service.If a bank employee remains in police custody for over night he will be automatically suspended/charged sheeted and enquiry proceeedings will be conducted.I any accused emplyee of the bank proved of holding disproporationate vaue of assests to his emulments he will be subjected to vigilence enquiry for find out the source of income.If found guilty ..you know the fate.But why these rules are not applicable to politicians,Govt officers,RTOs,SROs,Police Officers,officers in PWD etc.,.Had is been so our Parliament house at Delhi and all Vidhaana Sabhas would havr remained emty and hall must have truned as choultries to day.In our country rules are not equal to all.Here might is right is the rule.......Pl expand your area of knowledge to else where also.

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  • simple, bengaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Good comments (that is what happening everywhere\facts) to @ Ravi B. Shenava, Mangaluru.

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, INDIA

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Swamiji, how can you expect JUSTICE, being the culprit?

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  • Suryanarayana Sharma, Sullia

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    @ Henry
    Please furnish if you have any detalils or evidence to our Agency, & it may be helpfull to them. Anyway now they are buying time as they are unable to prove anything. Simply don't judge yourself before obsereving any details.

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    henry misquitaa.. Father barthalomeo was acquitted from all cases! but vatican gave him punishment.. why? witnesses were threatened n turned hostile, i blv... this case is better, atleast Judges are not giving judgements without proper trial...

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    WHY THIS ISSUE IS BLEW OUT OF PROPORTION !!

    HOW MANY ISSUES ARE IMPENDING IN THE COURT HOW ABOUT THAT ?

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Transfer the case to Mumbai or Chennai ...

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  • KRPrabhu, Bengaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    Sathyameva Jayathe.....Truth always prevails.....
    Its a vidication of the fact that what Respectable Swamiji has reitered several times against the conspirecy to defame him/mutt.The developments are also prevailence of devine power of Guru Parampara of the holly Sree Ramachandrapur Mutt and the devine blessings of Gomaata.......

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  • Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    @ KR Prabhu,
    This is the realty Mr Prabhu, if one work for welfare of others in a broad scale, with growing time, some wested interested people will grow up to bring him down. Naturally, the Truth always Triumphs, & it may be a tough time to him, but defenitely his good deeds, good work, & Truth will bring him Justice, if not immediately but after some time. Lets have patience till then...
    Sathyameva Jayathe...

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  • shivaram, kasaragod

    Sun, Jan 25 2015

    Mohandas,
    I admire your spirit,i am reading your comments since begining of this issue. your comments make sense.good job.god bless you.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    When it comes to hearing or prosecution of political and religious heads, we are steadily marching closer and closer to Pakistan and Afghanistan!
    Get in to these and you will be immune, Great developments, Ache din aa rahen hai!

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  • raghavendra m k, mumbai maharashtra

    Fri, Jan 23 2015

    This is our judiciary system and our leaned judges think before justify their action . Due to their decision judgement/punishment to the culprit delayed.

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