Christian priests raise concern over security


Mathura, April 17 (IANS): Christian priests in Mathura on Friday raised security concern after an attack on the 95-year-old St. Mary's Church in Agra on Thursday.

The priests fear that they, too, could be attacked by anti-social elements.

"The desperate elements could easily target any. Under the new government at the Centre, the attacks have become more frequent," said Father Saji, a priest at a church in Jait village in Mathura district.

Father Saji said the district administration made no security arrangements even after the recent spate of churches being attacked.

Mathura district has around a dozen churches and educational institutions run by different denominations, but their security is lax.

In Agra, Christians marched with candles on Thursday evening to protest administrative indifference. Protests will continue till the culprits are nabbed, community leaders said.

Rajesh Modak, senior superintendent of Agra police, said investigations were on with four teams on the job and that the suspects would be arrested soon.

Father Moon Lazarus, parish priest, demanded arrest of the attackers who, he said, were "mentally diseased."

A group has threatened to close down Christian missionary schools in Agra, if the culprits were not booked soon.

  

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  • sam, world

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    @Suman, Mangalore
    "Good comment for hypocrites like sam,world"
    - What exactly was good in Mr. vinayak prabhu, mangalore comment?
    - If the Government of India can give security to politicians, why not give security to churches, temples, mosques? Are politicians Gods?

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  • sam, world

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    @nagesh nayak, bangalore
    Answers to your questions

    1. WHY THERE IS A FORCIBLE CONVERSION OF POOR, DALITS AND DOWNTRODDEN.
    - Force and conversion do not go together in the same sentence. Conversion is a willing act. Force is a coercive act.

    2. WHY CONVERSION IN THE NAME OF CHARITY .
    - The reason why RSS, VHP, BD brigade only sees money, is because money is one of the deities in Hinduism (Lakshmi). Christians do not worship a God of money.

    3. CHRISTAINS ARE NOT BOTHERED ABOUT INDIA .
    - By this logic, Hindus are also not bothered about India.

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  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
    DEAR CITIZENS AND NETIZENS WE NEED TOTAL BHARATH BUNDH FOR CONVERSION ACTIVITES AND ANTI NATIONAL ACTIVITIES OF ANTI INDIAN ATTITUDE OF THIS CONVERTOR CLASS

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    DEar nagesh nayak, Bangalore,

    Draconian amendments to Land bill,

    THE BACK BONE OF THE FARMERS WANTED TO BREAK BY THIS MONKEY BAATH.

    Conversions bill.

    Cattle class government's cow slaughter bill.

    Is this government belong to humans or cattle's.

    COW GOVERNMENTS CATTLE CLASS GOVERNANCE SUITS WELL TO THIS BHARATIYA JAANUVAAR PARTY.

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  • praveen, kulshekar

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Naga, call all the Hindu converters from the western countries then you bark here

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  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    THIS IS BIG DRAMA BY CHRISTAINS TO GET ATTENTION FROM WORLD FOR MORE FUNDS AND SYMPATHY.

    MY QUETION TO CHRISTAIN PRIESTS:

    1. WHY THERE IS A FORCIBLE CONVERSION OF POOR, DALITS AND DOWNTRODDEN.

    2. WHY CONVERSION IN THE NAME OF CHARITY .

    3. CHRISTAINS ARE NOT BOTHERED ABOUT INDIA .

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Dear nagesh nayak, Bangalore,

    My questions to you:

    Why the BJP where ever it is ruling is lawless, chaos, turmoil and hatred towards Christians.

    What is the problems in Christian identity, Christian names, Christian name of places and Christian churches. Why do you allow such kind to your fundoos. Are they Hindus.

    File the case against Christians about forcible conversions you have the full right.

    Now we are watching false cases against Christians just like in Karnataka your paai laagu Yeddy slapped cases against Christians.

    Why the dhaliths are not allowed to enter and eat with shivalli Brahmins and why they are not allowed to enter into their temples.

    Is not dung and urine are cattle waste???!!!

    Now it is enough for you to digest. Rest will be after your answer.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
    DEAR CITIZENS AND NETIZENS WE NEED TOTAL BHARATH BUNDH FOR DRACONIAN AMENDMENTS OF ANTI FARMERS BILL AND ANTI CHRISTIAN ATTITUDE OF THIS COW GOVERNMENT'S CATTLE CLASS GOVERNANCE.

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  • Practical thinker, Udupi

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    If there is a rule that whole India should follow one religion which one would that be? I think atheists like me would become more in number then.

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  • Indiafirst, Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    And please Hindu was never a religion. It was just a way of life or just people livng in India.(Indu is sanskrit word for Indian people and Hindu derived from persia).There was never a concept of religion here before the invasion of Mughal rulers or any of british. People living in India were termed as Hindus. It was this innocent Indians gave shelter to those who came to India for shelter. So please stop it.
    I believe if all of us stop evaluating one another on the basis of religion and start appreciating what we find good in each other all the misconceptions would die.
    I feel we can keep this blog with some healthy discussions rather than some hate comments. You find good in all right.
    I feel if of a biginning is made in the right direction and we decide to live unitedly even politicians can do nothing to ruin them.
    There is a great safety in unity and that units as a nation. India First.

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    You are again speaking as if no people fought between ideologies before mughals or british....read history you will find inter rivalry between shaivites,vaishnavites,jains and buddhist...They used to fight each other on ideology and even loot each other....RSS doesnt want to here this story......By saying that I am not giving character certificate to mughals or british they too have equal share and continued same legacy.... India was never one united nation as RSS proclaims it is collection of different ideas,languages,culture and belief...there was nothing like akhand bharat in history as RSS proclaims...check the facts...all kings used to fight eachother....India is land of migrants...the original indians are those adivasis probably..
    A punjabi is not like a tamilian ...a tamilian is not like a manipuri...a manipuri is not like a munda...this is because of difference in gene probably due to different ancestry.....But now we are united to be in India so we are Indians...It doesnt mean we have to follow sentiments of particular religion or culture to be a Indian...
    European countries have same type of ancestry,language ,culture and religion to define patriotism....is it case with India...??

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  • ANP, Blore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Wonder why the religious want protection when they claim their lord is there to protect them.Protection is for those who dont have any lord for protection like us ATHIESTS.

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  • Practical thinker, Udupi

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Agree with you, all namesake believers for money.may be gods also have become old to perform.

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  • Yashwanth, Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    ANP & Practical Thinker,

    If money could be made in not believing in god, you'd see millions and millions of born-again atheists.

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  • Anp, Blore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Yashwant,
    If you want to engage in a debate dont quote or drag my name into another persons answer or another territory.
    ANSWER MY SIMPLE QUESTION .
    Looks like you .wANT SOMETHING .

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  • Yashwanth, Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    ANP,

    You simply didn't get my point, I too am an atheist. My point of view is the way money is made in the name of religion, if at all there was a chance in making money by not believing in god, we would have had people taking up atheism.

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  • Anp, Blore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Sorry Yash,
    I Get carried away when someone questions my non belief.

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  • sam, world

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    @ANP, Blore
    - There is a bigger harm than loss of earthly life i.e. the loss of the soul!
    - God has already warned people not to live in sin. It is not God's responsibility to stop humans if they choose to live in sin.
    - It is our responsibility to protect our own brothers and sisters from people who want to do harm e.g. 6 men gangraping Nirbhaya. Since Nirbhaya many more cases of gangraping has occurred - Is this God's responsibility or ours?
    - If non-Atheists are not to be protected, then why give special protection to Atheists? Is the blood of an Atheist more purer and refined than that of a non-Atheist?

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  • Hitchens Fan, DXB

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    People stop cribbing like a bunch of kids. First of all there is no no god, period. Secondly why do religious places need protection aint GOD supposed to be all powerful and stuff. The world is divided only for the sake of a imaginary person in the sky. Think is it worth to kill each other for someone whose existence is only faith based and not scientific. am not saying become atheists but once a while think beyond religion.

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  • IndiaFirst, Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Shame on them who feel ill about Indian culture and its civilization. This glorious civilization has sheltered persecuted people of all faiths throughout history, only because of the inborn tolerance and belief, in the unity of all mankind.

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  • ANP, Blore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Irony of like.......
    Parents Worldwide raised concern on Christian Priests in regard to the security/ safety of their children....now the ball is in their court.

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Instead of pushing millions on conversion get gunned security gaurds for chruches and pay them well. And secure yourself.government cant gaurd every chruch or temple.remember to pay gaurds well

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  • sam, world

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    @vinayak prabhu, mangalore
    "Instead of pushing millions on conversion get gunned security gaurds for chruches and pay them well"
    - We didn't need security guards before PM Modi, so why this request?
    - Are you supplying security guards?

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Hatred brigades necessitated the requirement of security guards.

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Good comment for hypocrites like sam,world..he started to show his true color now.

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  • ad, mangaluru

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    be an Indian not a christian. hindu or muslim.

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  • Indian , Dxb

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    well said

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  • Praveen, Kulshekar

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Why not preach the same to the chaddi gang, ask them to be Indian first and not even think of ghar wapsi, ayodhya temple, Rama sethu, let them fight the terrorists and the anti social elements then I support your comment

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  • shankar, mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Be a Christian, be a Muslim, be a Hindu, be whatever you want mann.
    But do not forget that you are an Indian.

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  • ethan , mangalore/mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    @chandrahas shetty
    All rich n famous temples are under government... All earnings from temple goes to corrupt politicians and for so called minority Bhagyas... nothing is used to uplift poor n backwards Hindus...

    Missionaries receive lot of foreign funds... which is used to uplift poor Christians and misused for conversions.

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  • Mie, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    You mean Hindu temples and their seers are encouraging Christians to promote conversion activities at the expense of poor Hinhus. So, now who is doing these conversion activities???. Thank you very much for coming out and telling the truth.

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  • Mohammed, Bajpe/Riyadh

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    My dear Christian Brothers. Why are all not taking the CM of the STATE to task. Why do we call for the centre always,You think they will listen? Its the duty of the State Govt. Whats the CM doing? Also stupidly why are all the readers here equating themselves to westerners ? like US, UK will or should punish India. Stop this sermon. How much did they punish the ISIS for atrocacies on Christians? How much did they punish the Nigerian Christian College attackers? How did they punish the Daesh militants in Syria who burnt alive 110 christian hostages? Start thinking out of the box brothers.

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  • Shashi shetty, Santhoor

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    This is one big game of Sonia congress. Throw stone in church and blame centre govt. very easy. These chruch leaders are working on behest of vaticans to spoil the good work of Modi sarkar.

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  • KRPrabhu, B'luru

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Shashi Shettre,There are only few good chiristains who understand who and why churches are being attacked after Modi became PM.Majority of them who are convent educated do not understand the reality.They are just like 'gaadi kaa ghoda' which means they cant beyond that. Colonial slavery life is another contributory factor for their blocked knowledge/wisdom.

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  • Rupesh, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Dear Eric, Tell your Indian Christians association for to write letter to all the christians nations but one thing you need understand here that
    1) Why people going to attack and what is the reason ?
    * If any problem like conversion doing by some of people from your community then can you people try to resolve that issue.
    * You can find many cases of conversions

    2) Put CCTV in all Churches or make 24*7 security and findout actual culprits!
    * It also posible that oposition party people doing those works for defame ruling party.
    * If a hindu guy caught then media headline is RSS involved in this... Try to findout actual root...

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  • Mie, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    If you see genuine case of conversion why don't you file a police complain???. Have you done so far or you have just heard about conversion!!!. Can you name any church doing it, if so take those people and that church for task instead of vandalizing and attacking our church.

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  • Rupesh, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Dear Mie, Do you find in my comment that "Churches are involved in the Conversion issue" ? I told some of people not churches. Even I am going my local place church and Attur church annually for to pray with god. Many missionaries are making conversion.
    Am also against for vandalizing and attacking our church or any religious places. In my previous comment i told that find out full root means all culprits involved those cases (it is also possible that opposition parties will try to defame ruling party).

    http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=98450

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  • chandrahas shetty, udupi

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    I really agree with you. These mutts and temples earn so much in the name of god. Yet they havent learnt how to share wealthto uplift the so called hindu religion. Still have to learn from the selfless work of missionaries and from common xian brothers.


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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Thank you, at least some open-minded people like you see the positive contribution and reforms made by the missionaries.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Mr. Shetty: Please don't misunderstand me that I am fully agreeing with the high rise Churches spending millions of dollars while people are hungry and sick in the same city.

    Some of the Temples in India have billions of Rs. worth of wealth in gold and other deposits, protected by security guards. The believers of all religions must have comfortable place of worship, and it takes money to run the places of worship.

    But, if the religious institutions are turning like the hoarding houses of gold and other highly valuable assets while the believers of the same religions are suffering with hunger, sickness, leaking roof, lacking education etc then the wealth hoarding in the religious institution will be a challenging issue.

    I have questioned some of the Churches in the U.S., spending millions simply on rock-cement and metal, while thousands of people are suffering in the same city, that is too hard for me to tolerate. Since I have visited some of the poorest places in the U.S., India and Mexico, that pictures of suffering is creating very irritating questions in my mind.

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  • Yashwanth, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    A recent survey on IIT students showed that more than half of the passing IITians do not believe in the existence of god. During my days it used to be nearly 95% of the students believing in the existence of god. Good to see this developement in the right direction in the last three decades. When the number comes down to zero, then only we can have progress, development, peace and harmony.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Great progress that now only 50% of the IIT graduates, the smartest brains in the world is believing in GOD. Let them read about the world's top scientists, how they believed in
    GOD.

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  • shivaramakrishna, chennai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    My dear fellow countrymen,
    It is really painful when religion takes a centrestage in our country. Any adult can profess any religion of his choice. No force can change2093 anybody's mindset. Conversion is a myth.Our people unnecessarililywaste money on gods than on people welfare. They never allow others to do it. We have gained so much from these missionaries and are in this driving seat today in the world. Imagine we are one of the few civilised countries several thousand years yet we are far behind these developed countries. God give us the wisdom to get our country first than other non sense thingsGuide us how to keep ourcities clean. Give the courage to keep these hooligans in their cells.


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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    In any democratic country where different religious people are living, especially where there is less literacy level, when the politicians using the very sensitive religious spade card for their vested interest can create great fraction and friction in the whole nation. Now, India is caught up in that hot bed of religious vicious cycle.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    dont worry much! ...your Christian government in USA, asked communal INDIA to rescue their christian citizen living in muslim country of Yemen! so, India is on right track of winning over hearts! .. this friction/faction politics of secular paadris, secular christian judges, secular media's christain boys and oped writers like mihir sharma, john dayal, arundhati suzannne roy, prannoy james roy, pritish nandy, ashish nandy, ashsish khetans and those who are married to one secular - let them go and have a gala time!

    all this news will die down soon. they try to show their weights around, when Modi is travelling abroad or a dignitary visits India!...

    is desh ko progress ke path se koi nahi rok sakta! world has awakened... and soon India will get a "permanenet seat in security council too"! just wait and watch... mirchi ready rakho.. vhe vhe vhe

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  • Manu, mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Vellano....
    If India rescued U.S.A citizens...we all Indians will be happy...it is not because of hindutva goons, get your facts right...In past during earlier govt India too rescued people in Iraq ,libya and syria but then govt didnot boast it like yours.....Even pakis claim they rescued some Indians in yemen crisis leave it aside....
    Nobody is hindering progress of the country ...if it ever happens it is because of modis own hindutvawadis...Now some industrialist has started to request govt...if India has to grow modi has to control hindutvawadis...Does modi have guts to control and speak directly against hindutvawadis....If he has done then you can shout Vhe vhe vhe...but reality is he is scared to do it....vhe vhe vhe

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  • Amigo, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Manju, at the same time you and your family members also don't seek a job in Foreign or Gulf or Multinational countries and tell your PM not to go to Europe, USA and Canada with begging bowl. If you are so concern of your religion don't stand on 'Q' at 3 AM to get the admission of your child.80% population scared of 18% 2%. It’s really a disgusting mentality. 29% who voted to Bharatiya Jokers Party are really mentally sick people and try to get support from other sick people calling the Priest as Mallu-will you call a Pujari of the Temple as Mallu Pujari??

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Amigo: Manju is indeed a very strong patriot which I admire greatly. He doesn't like any western things, so he won't fly in a plane-won't ride in a car or train, because all of them were invented by the western world the worst sinners of the world.

    He won't be going to the hospital for surgery even if he has broken bones because modern medicines came to India from the Western world, the killers.

    He is writing in good English, is he writing or somebody writing for him? How he learned the western language, the language of the looters of the world? The colleges and schools were started by the Christian Missionaries the wild cannibals.

    He has to take the lead of his party that they don't need any foreign investment in India, from the former looters of the world which will bring curse on the country, but only deal with holy countries.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    America is occupied country. It was belong to Red Indians and it is now immigrant country.

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  • Mike, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    These losers learnt little English by the British rule and then followed by elite Christian institutes. Even the country's initial infra structure was built by foreigners. What these idiots are crying about. These only know to talk like rocket and computer was invented by ancient Indians and taking credit for invention of Zero. Height of fekugiri. What next, Mars was already visited by Shankeranarayana from his Parna Kutira??? LOL.

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  • Eric Coelho, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    It is time that the Indian Christians association writes a letter to the Vatican, the European, Australian, Canadian, North America and South America that it is time to be strict with Hindu Religious leaders. The PM of the country says during his recent trip to 3 countries that he values all religion and also their language but his Finance Minister says that attacks are criminal acts and not hate crimes. The majority of investors India from western and far east countries are catholics and it is time that BJP Leaders realise that the harassment and attack on minorities can no longer continue. It has to be end. The Foreign investors are not interested in Modi's speech but in his honest governance. The PM in India should act against his fanatics who says that Christians and Muslims should be sterlised. If he doesn't mark my words he is no more fit to be the PM of this country. We had one silent PM for 10 years and we don't want another PM who gives speeches abroad but in India he is totally silent to the hate acts of his leaders and fanatics.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Mr. Coelho: What happened to the Babel citadel after the flood? The language confusion took place, thus breaking the smart strategy of the people to overtake GOD's future punishments.

    The Home Minister was lamenting from day one to have a national non-conversion law along with the beef ban. Why he went to a total silence now? Indeed, quite surprising!

    The Finance Minister is the spokesperson for the Home Minister
    touching the religious persecution issues.

    The Minister of Aviation or Education will be turning as the spokesperson for the Finance Minister later because he is too deeply emerged into restless drudgery to make the Indian economy's GDP 10% in a year, thus to make 20 trillion dollar economy to take over both the U.S. and China at a stroke in the nearest future before our eyes.


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  • KRPrabhu, B'luru

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    BJP sarakarada mele aagade iddavaru/ghora visha kaaruvavaru maaduva kelasa idu!!!Avarige bere daari illa!!!

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  • Praveen, Kulshekar

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Nimma railu allige nillisi. Shanthiyutha christha samudayavannu target madiddiri, islam samja adakke takka Uttara nidiruthare, avarinda neevu solu kanddideeri

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, BAHRAIN

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Now it has become an habit of vandalism churches. Police needs to investigate this honestly, efficiently and need to know the root of this issue. I suspect this to be by anti-social elements. Media and political parties may be communal colour even before investigations have started. Why can't it be political parties itself, for political gains? Why can't it be by mischief mongers? Why can't it be motive of Politico-Anti-National-media nexus? We saw this kolkatta nun rape case. We need to be vigilant and those b...tards out the country. They should not be given place in our country and also their supporters should be thrown out.

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  • Oliver, Udupi

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    dear vellano vhe..vhe..
    bcoz of Christian countries you are safe today in India.
    otherwise, people like isis,alqaida,taliban,etc would have swallowed you guys already!!

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    lol... Yes our Nepali gurkha was also saying same thing! all christian countries are saving us and they are getting slaughtered by ISIS every week at the neck!

    but, why are you christians first to reach muslim country where there are so much of restrictions on your food/drinks? even before the muslims from mangaluru reached, you people used to go there!and took away all their jobs, saying this same "Americans helped arabs to find oil" vhe vhe vhe ..but Arabs controlled your missionary activity.. else there would have been wars even there!... kya history hum nahi jaante? if Hindus didnt wake up.. by now Sonia samrajya would have ruined the culture here!

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  • JK, Udupi

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Thank god, BJP came to power with full majority, think about otherwise.

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  • Tom Cat, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Minority attacks have increased ever since bjp has taken over in centre.Why are bjp and hindu mahasabha scared of 2% minority population.
    Swamis and bjp MP come out with negative statements which emboldens the criminals .

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  • HINDU, kUDLA/ Bharath

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    I can only imagine what our Hindu ancestors had to go thru when the Kings and Looters came and killed them and took over the temples and robbed them and converted them forcibly.

    There was no social media , courts or Justice then

    Now there are plenty of the dissendents of these atrosities crying wolf- Stop crying- this is just history.

    Kangress was fooling and kissing your butt - now join the real Hindustan and accept facts

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  • alwyn, Canadian

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Hey pandu india is not only belongs to hindus but belongs to all citizens. Just mind what you say. You ancestor were hindus and my ancestor were atheist and converted to Christianity which is one of the best beleif one can have on this globe. Experience and will never ever will leave it. Hope christ touch your heart and heal you from hatred.

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  • Mogh, mangalore

    Sat, Apr 18 2015

    Alwyn, You are wrong, atheism is not a religion, so your ancestor did not embrace atheism along with others before taking the next step to Christianity. Your ancestor was converted as he must have been a 'poor soul'.
    India is a Hindustan, we don't discriminate, we only protect from those institutions that have a mission. You are a Hindustani christian and thus a citizen, you are not a Portuguese who was born in India are you?. Did your ancestor row the boat from Portugal?

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  • Nishanth D'Souza, Kasaragod

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Kasaragod is the safest place for any religion. By the way, North India is just a piece of crap with plenty of hatred for minorities. Conversion? Religiously upper caste Hinduism is intolerant to conversion. Most importantly Forced conversion is a myth propagated by radical right wing parties who cannot define certain problems of the country but rather steal others freedom like banning beef etc and etc. Forced conversion doesn't even benefit us Christians and Muslims bcoz what's the point of accepting the conversion when the converted person can't follow our religious practices! If those conversions are real it might be through his own will not forced.

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  • Denis, Kuwait

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    BJP supporters doing all evil things they are thinking we finish minorities but this type of attacks for minorities not good for India minorities never finish,evil persons end is near wait and see.

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  • Willie Menda, Bangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Victims of hatred and jealousy!

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
    DEAR CITIZENS AND NETIZENS WE NEED TOTAL BHARATH BUNDH FOR DRACONIAN AMENDMENTS OF ANTI FARMERS BILL AND ANTI CHRISTIAN ATTITUDE OF THIS COW GOVERNMENT'S CATTLE CLASS GOVERNANCE.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Mr. Manju: The Home Minster and another person from AP along with Amith Shaw were crying loud to enact a national anti-conversion law to make the BJP and her sister party electorate too happy also the wonderful "beef ban" as introduced in your great State.

    Now, they are telling that the Indian constitution won't permit to enact a national anti-conversion law. So, every state has the legal right to enact one. Already 6 States have anti-conversion law.
    Is it written in the constitution that it is upto the States to enact an anti-conversion law?

    Finally, in a so called democratic country, some people have the freedom to convert and some other people have no freedom to convert.
    How, the citizens of the same country have two different fundamental choice?

    You are a great influential person, you must file a suite in the Supreme court to enact a national anti-conversion law, along with the beef ban thus pass a law soon.

    Then Mr. Modi's visit to the democratic, especially to the western world he loves to land repeatedly for attracting the business enterprises to make India as the next China of the world would be faced with nothing but
    wrapped up with questions to define the Indian secular-democracy.

    Go ahead in a hurry. Attacking the Churches and other religious institution is not the right measure to stop conversion, that act is called street hooliganism.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Mathew. Understand the meaning of "Organised institution" like the Missionaries. These Missionaries are not invited by government of India or poor Hindus. They came by their own for Service to God but now they are doing business of religion "Service to Religion " not to God. Service to God doesn't need religion just like "service to poor is like service to God ". Jesus Christ will never accept such ugly religious services because he himself was against religion or prejudice. He was Jew and he died as Jew only.
    Beef ban is different story and even in bible there were Animals looking at baby Jesus - And she gave birth to her firstborn son and. "And she gave birth to her firstborn son .......

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    MR. MANJU: You are an educated person with knowledge, though we are standing apart in our views, please remember that I respect people like you.

    If the missionary work of any missionary or Christian Church is done deviating from the real focus, I am not supporting that at all.

    One person whom I greatly admire and read about is Swami Vivekananda. But many other Swami's and other religious business people hoarding wealth under the bed using religion is causing me peptic ulcer. His practical life of total dedication and humility is very inspiring.

    My friend, if I meet you anywhere in the world, I will be very friendly with you and will do anything which I can to make the meeting pleasant.

    I am glad that you mentioned the person born in a manger. If you look to the many so called Christians, you will not find the person born in the manger in their personal life, which is very sad. Please learn more about HIM, and write comments as you feel about HIM.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    if you really feel insecure and threatened one among them!... look at Yezidis they are all safe once they agreed to accept islam!... many in UP are converting to islam, like Valmiki's for safety of their house! once they become muslims, government gives them enough facicility and also can threaten govt because of the vote bank!... I feel christians in UP should also convert to islam and incrase their number and then they can bargain and govt can guarantee them safety!... rather than blaimng Modi, praise the ONLY GOD< the creator! vhe vhe vhe

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Vellano1, you have explained very nicely.Full marks to you. Saanp Bhi Mare aur Laati Bhi na toote.

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  • Fayaz , Dxb

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    very nice suggestion by Vellano1...

    Christians can convert to Islam under certain condition ...
    - now Churches are getting attacked frequently, but if you convert to Islam , only difference is they will destroy the Masjid and collapse into pieces .....
    - they will upload fake video in Facebook and create riot and rape your women and pull unborn baby from mother....
    Simple if you can bare all these you can convert ....

    or anyway modi raj is running , you convert to Hinduism... Full protection for 3 more years .....

    But only prob is which caste to convert ??
    Vhe vhe vhe ... Full confusion ....
    Can we become Brahmins ??? Can we become Poojary???

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    dumb.. if one has to remain "MINORITY" then he has to join only islam! rest dont count in that loop! ..and yes, you can be a brahmin, and do a Ghante pandavuna poojary..but what is the use? you will have to struggle to get a job and have to pass with merit to find even a simple educational seat.. avvu aapundanda, nikulu ini reservation-g bobbe paaduavara?

    and u can be just a muslim! and get married to 4 woemn, divorce at will ..but dont think u can be a Mufti of hazrat bal darga or sultan of brunie or king of saudi arabia to shit in a golden pot! you have easy access to find a odd job in Gulf with your name thats it! bade khab mat dekhna! ... middleastern Arab will still consider u as a Hindu! vhe vhe vhe

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  • Fayaz , Dxb

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    vhe vhe vhe ...

    Somebody is expert in twisting and using situation and changing words for their advantage ...

    Vellano1 ... Below is your statement

    " if brahmins can live without nonveg, government job, or excelling in every field all by merit and not living on shaadi bhagya to shraaddha bhagya... "

    Kya huva mere dost ???? Bolthi band....??

    As per ur words it's better to be Brahmin,
    And you can be Nithyananda ..... Ashram Bapu....

    No1 question you .... Not marrying 4 ... You can show raasleela with 1000 females..... And get free Godly respect ... Live a king life my frend .....

    Fayida bhaaaaaai....

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  • Rajesh bhandary, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Which is your cast before converting to Islam?

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  • Fayaz, DXB

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    which is your blood colour Bhandaryle????

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Vellanoji: You will be getting an immediate invitation from Mr. Modi as the new Minister of the "Minority people" rather be called "the refugees of India".

    Your advice is fantastic.

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  • Master, mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Fayaz bhai...great reply..chaddis should be replied in their own twisting tongue manner

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  • Valerian D Souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Everyone is minority somewhere or the other.
    If third world war is going to be fought on religious lines then, destiny /provocation is inevitable.
    Hyper/Fake religious consciousness is on the rise day by day.
    Quality of human values and ethics are decreasing!
    May be end time is nearing. All the wars are fought on humans mischief!

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Enough is enough... make your own security 24 X 7...

    STOP THE BLAME GAME & DONT JOIN WITH KHANGRESS TO DAMAGE IMAGE OF INDIA AND BJP...

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  • Rajesh, Mangalore

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    you belong to which country??? so now US/Canada are religion based countries?? so who is communal now.. india or rest of the world according to you???

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul ...

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, BAHRAIN

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Don't forget it, modi is busy doing business with christian countries and begging the USA/Europe to support them against the might of China.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    These so called christian countries, are not born rich! they looted else of the "communal countries" for years together in the name of colonising! nobody invited them then either! they came here in the name of trade.. conned innocent civilains, agressed upon them, took away their freedom, made them convert in inquisition, raped and showed atrocities, destoryed their temples, made them run away from place to pillar to post! Today they are acting civil/cultured and telling us, "we are beggars and we have to stay secular"! hell with such ideas! hum bhi trade ke liye jaayenge.. aur ek din tentwa daba denge..dekhte jaayiye!

    all these western countires deal with China, which cares two hoots for ur religion, deals with Middleeast for oil, which reduces churches to ash, which deals and aids pakistan, where being a christian is a crime! ...so, kindly spare us the horror of your evangelism! we are here to stay and they need us!

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    With this attitude you have, how the western countries can invest in India? After investing money in India, India may try to loot them as a retaliation because you are an authority of the western world looting. You are giving some inside secret to the western world now which will discourage them to jump into the Indian soil in a hurry.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    haha..forget about it! you think about ur life.. suddenly hope u are not exported back to sae dingy kerala where u left from... it is still the same and worst than that! ... even bars are closed now! only eat beef on road kiss random women! vhe vhe vhe

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  • alwyn, Canada

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Beggars are visiting all over with fake talks to find a way to loot. Be aware my friend. Western nations has not looted but developed nations where many your brother are dreaming of coming here and many are already here.may be you are planed and failed to reach here. WhAt a sad life of yours. Loot in india accept minorities because we need money to educate the uneducated were has donever many years may be your grand father's also studied in one of our christian school for free that is how you learned English.

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  • Vellano1, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    lol... this is why you are a Pappu fan! one who converts will not be a Genetic one! ... brahmins have years of struggle, right from the days of mahabharata! they are "bada brahmana"... no one was a princely class!.... even today they have saved their religion and culture, without compromising and contaminating! ..just a convert cant live that pious selfless life! just Beef ban news kende nikalena mande haal aapundu.. nana khaali pulku sambar tinyare nikalerd aapunda? onji samottu kannada/english d rudd line barevare nikaleg bhanga aapundu.. nana avvu sanskrit shloka kalpare, surya namaskara malpare panderda nikaleg aava? artha maltonu! nikk brahmane avare yerla untavujer! jaatird brahmane att.. ninna life styled aavodu maaraya!

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  • Fayaz, Dxb

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    dont always crib about Christians looting Hindus blah blah ..... Try to admire what they given to india... Today Indian education level is so high , it's just because British .... Today Indians are able to interact with the world with strong language and skills it's because of British ..... Today any Indians are seen ahead of Chinese , Russians just because of our ability to speak English ..... It's not Sanskrit......today India is the no1 IT RESOURCE In the world is just because of our ability to interact with the world .....

    What's gone by has gone by .... Try not spread the venom ..... Try to live the moment now ... Rather than living in 100 year back ...

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, BAHRAIN

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    And Modi goes abroad and tells the French, Germans and Canadians, that things are sooo well in India! What lies. You can fool some people some time and NOT all people all the time Mr Modi!

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  • J. N. Lobo, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Mr.HENRY MISQUITH, I think you are right. As per today's news Chinese president Xi Jinping will be in Pakistan on Monday, 20th April, to deepen economic and strategic ties between the two allies and would sign infrastructure financing deals worth over $6 billion !.

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  • Secular Indian, Udupi

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    ಚರ್ಚ್ ದಾಳಿ ಖಂಡನೀಯ. ಇದರ ಹಿಂದೆ ಸಂಘ ಪರಿವಾರದ ಕೈವಾಡ ಇದೆ........ಪೋಲಿಸರು ನಿಜವಾದ ಅಪರಾಧಿಗಳನ್ನು ಕಂಡು ಹಿಡಿಯುತ್ತಾರೆ.

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  • shuba, mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Shame on this uncivilised people whoever have organised this shameful acts and the ruling govt should immediately intervene and nominate a team who should be good enough to make the media and the public known of the culprits modus operandi For whatever reason anyone disturbing peace should be punished irrespective of caste religion, myth.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Father Saji, what government will do when some miscreant broke a window at 3am. Use your own security guard to prevent it.
    This priest is mallu better to stay away in politics debate from mallus.
    I too concerned of poor Hindus converted by foreign funded ORGANISED Missionaries.
    I want a anti conversion law to be immediately passed in Loksabha and must punish all who are indulging in conversion business.

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  • Tridev, Maanchkal-Shirva

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Is it not fair if all the people support modiji for 'safety' instead of throwing 'mud' now and then.
    valmikis joined other religion for there safety..
    After all one's safety is much concerned..rest follows latter.
    Everybody will be happy even religious places.

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  • Tridev, Maanchkal-Shirva

    Fri, Apr 17 2015

    Don't panic..
    Nothing has happened..
    All are safe in the hands of Modiji Government..
    Will solve issue soon..
    More safety as from in Kenya or in Pakistan or in Iraq.
    Mischeivous Mongers will be handled severely in coming days.
    Don't jump into the conclusion directly..it will affect society in larger scale.

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