'Can't be present in everyone's bedroom': Centre to SC on banning porn sites


New Delhi, Aug 10 (NDTV): On a petition asking for a ban on porn sites in India, the government today told the Supreme Court that while child pornography must be banned, "we cannot be present in everyone's bedroom."

Attorney General Mukul Rohtagi said that a larger debate was required in the society or in Parliament on banning porn sites altogether.

"Child pornography has to be banned. However we cannot become a totalitarian state," the government's top lawyer argued.

Last week, the government blocked over 850 portals with adult content on grounds of morality and decency, but partially revoked the order after an angry backlash on social media and amid a raging debate on censorship in a democracy.

The government ordered Internet service providers to shut down sites that promote child pornography.

Many service providers say the order is ambiguous and not practical.

In 2011, India urged social network companies to screen content and remove offensive material.

Indore-based lawyer Kamlesh Vaswani filed the petition seeking a ban on porn websites in India. His lawyer Vijay Punjwani told NDTV: "The activity of pornography, from the first shot to the viewing is completely criminal. It should be banned like using drugs is banned."

During a hearing last month, Chief Justice of India HL Dattu declined to pass an interim order to block porn websites and said the court could not stop an adult from exercising his fundamental right to personal liberty to watch porn within the privacy of his room.

As the debate continues, the government is considering, among other options, setting up an ombudsman to track online content. It could be headed by a retired Supreme Court judge or somebody from the civil society.

  

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  • kokerir, Indian/Abudhabi

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Dear Zeitgeist, As you say it is easy to access PORN site even if the site is banned than "WHY CRY" let the government ban who still has the idea to access let them..... Why all are making noise on Govt???

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  • Ashraf, Dammam

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Whatever it is. The banning and then lifting the ban has provided the porn viewers the list of the 800 odd porn websites that they might have never known before.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    I believe that crimes like murder, kidnapping are increasing. So should govt or SC ban all the depiction of violence in the movies? will such ban reduce the violence in the real world?

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Please watch this John Oliver`s take on porn being banned and later unbanned in india, in youtube

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  • abdul samad, mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    GOOD NEWS FOR KARNATAKA EX BJP MLA'S

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  • Michael noronha, Mysore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    If watching Porn in the bedroom is fundamental right then illicit sex within the four walls of the bedroom will also be considered fundamental right under the guise of consenting adults. If the legislature bans Porn Sites through a law then automatically the judiciary should strictly abide by the law of the land. Watching Porn gives rise to perverted acts like Rape. Few years ago the media reported that after watching a "Rape Scene" at a village drama a spectator on his way home raped a child. We have instances of MLAs watching PORN in the assembly too. Such is the temptation and disastrous effects. The Judiciary and the legislature should support the society by prohibiting obscene films being available for viewing by the citizens.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Michael,

    ''Few years ago the media reported that after watching a "Rape Scene" at a village drama a spectator on his way home raped a child.''

    You mean to say that there was a rape scene in a village drama??? Wow...

    and.... for haven`s sake please provide me with the link to study that shows connection between porn and rape.

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Gangaram, Moodabidr
    quote
    “but i say porn is like an energetic tablet for oldies!!! dekne ke baad kuch tho try kar sakthe hai woh log bi :)”
    unquote
    Kya boloon !
    I had earlier also expressed that your comments always have some sincerity in them.
    In my opinion parents cannot fully control their growing up children. May be in front of their eyes they are sober but when being in the company of friends they may be different. All the friends (friend circle) are not a bunch of flowers picked from the garden.
    As Zeitgeist said
    "A normal guy watches porn almost every day" ......
    That is true but not necessarily with each and every one.
    Only the Agree/Disagree will determine on this point.

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  • Rajiv Suvarna, Udupi

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    If porn is banned then our MLA's will sleep in the State Assembly.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Feku & Deku have experience in Snooping ...

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  • Ratnakar Shetty, Mumbai

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Jossey, Are you trained under Kejriwal to speak crap all the time?

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  • Aubb, Kuwait

    Tue, Aug 11 2015


    Ban Chor party, Ban Corruption first, for a better India,

    Jai Hind !!

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  • Praveen, Kulshekar

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    It will be mentioned as one of the developments of the NDA

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  • lukas, malpe

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    then why government should enter Kitchen rooms and dinning room about control of food habits of people.

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  • Vinod , Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Porn is morally wrong everyone knows it. Then how do we accept that porn should not be banned?
    Watching porn is clearly cheating in their spouse. If the couple is watching it, then they both are cheating.
    And child porn is crime. Child porn sites should not just be banned,they should be booked.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Vinod,

    Did you know what sites where banned? none of the sites in the list were sites of child pornography. How can i say that for sure? Cause if these sites were indeed of child pornography they would have been banned in the west.

    Did you know one of the sites they included in the ban was collegehumor com... really??? is it a child porn site?? no.... is it a porn site?? no.

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  • Daniel, Bristol

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    With people like these around, no wonder India is still referred to as a third world by the west ..

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    WATCHING PORN IS AS IF UR RAPING SOMEONE.

    GOVT ALSO SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IF SOMEONE RAPES.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Milan,

    Of many of your idiotic comments .... this ones gotta be on top.

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  • RAMESH, DXB

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    i never had any problem accessing it anywhere throughout the world lol...rok sako toh roklo

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  • Anees, KARKALA

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    AT Final....There is BAN FOR CHAHIWALAA GOVT AFTER 3yrs and 9 month....

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  • vivek, Hirebile/ Abu Dhabi

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Such an Arrogant answer to the Apex court.....Supreme court should BAN this government first!!...

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Alsoor Lake.
    Promises Fake.
    Eating eggs Cake.
    Radhe Maa to Make.
    Magic for peoples Sake.
    Bread of Wheat must Bake.
    Corruption BJP’s first to Take.
    NDA/BJP allowed plane to Hijack.
    Indian citizen’s minds, ears to Wake.
    To Cow govt., S. C., must make a Brake.
    Chaaiwaala silver beard seems to be Flake.
    In Solomon Island there was 6.7 earth Quake.

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  • Gangaram, Moodabidri

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    some says porn spoil the children
    some says porn spoil the younger generation
    some says porn spoil the youth

    but i say porn is like a energetic tablet for oldies!!! dekne ke baad kuch tho try kar sakthe hai woh log bi :)

    i agree ban on porn but just check in statebank bustand book stalls, you can find hundred type of porn story books!!! why no one is talking about this??

    if you guys never come across do not go to buy one pls!!

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    I am just wondering what is the IQ level of the people demanding ban on porn. First please understand that it cannot be banned. There are millions of porn sites. they cant block every one. next, porn can still be easily accessed through torrent downloads and you really dont need to visit any sites.

    Many of idiots give example of porn being main reason for sexual violence, if that`s the case all other types of violence in movies needs to be banned too because that will lead to violence.

    There is no study showing that watching porn leads to a women getting raped. In fact many studies have shown that there is no correlation between the two.

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  • Anti Porn, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    What will be your answer if your own kids start to watch porn at the tender age?
    What will be your answer if your own kids are obsessed with the porn and start to develop IMMORAL ACTIVITIES in the school itself ?

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Antiporn,

    Fist its your responsibilty that you keep your childs internet access restricted. It can be done.

    Next, second point wont arise if fist one taken care of.

    I think you are computer illiterate. Let me explain to you some things. Porn cannot be banned. ISP can block the sites but it cannot surely block all the sites. Even there are other ways to access porn. They cannot restrict Torrent sites. most of porn is available on torrent for free. So most of the agruements regarding banning and non banning of porn is pointless. The reason I am against banning of porn is only about the individual rights issue and not because i am scared that i may not be able to access porn. I dont wanna live in a nanny state, were govt interferes in private lives of an individual. Today they will ban porn tomorrow they will ban some book, next they will ban movie giving some stupid excuses. Govt cannot decide what i want to watch or read.

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  • Suzie Pinto, Udupi/Mumbai

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Zeitgeist, Mangalore
    Your talking about freedom that the government should not withhold? Freedom is to be used and not misused for wrong purposes. Watching pornography is a sin of lust.You can’t change the concept of evil - as good and good - as evil.

    Have you realized what women are going through these days. Do you know that even in offices they keep watching these sites.

    You haven't understood the intensity of the impact of the Delhi Rape Crime. Even if she was with a male companion, many more came and overpowered her to give vent to their lust feelings. These perverts don’t spare even an old women or little girls. Don’t women have the right to live a dignified and pure life. Should they fall prey to the lust of these perverts ? One only realizes its repercussions when it happens to one’s near one and dear one.

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  • peter, Brahmavar

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    First this should be banned in Vidhan soudha then speak about bed room.Dress in Hindi movies more provocative than porn sites. Difficult to find single movie we can watch freely with children and family.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Peter,

    Please check the certification of the movie, by which you will know whether its suitable for children or no.

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  • Hussain, dxb

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    All porn sites should be banned ..And with an advanced technology porn is available so easily..It spoils the youth and society and in turn the youth want to experience that by any means...

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    ..in recent days we can witness sexual offences by school going kids..this is surely because of easy availability of porn in mobile phones, social media like watsup,FB,youtube..Its pity that when Govt took action as per SC to ban such site for child por#, even this come under so called freedom of blah blah.. its very difficult or impossible to completely restrict these sites..even knowing this, NDTV like channels tried to give different angle to this whole issue and termed it like attack on freedom..sick

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Ramesh,

    You really dont get what freedom really is. Ok i will take your suggestion that the govt ban porn giving some excuse. but it will use similar excuse to ban other things that will restrict our freedom. Do you want to live in a nanny state? by your comments i feel you do.

    Internet is a symbol of freedom today. thats the only one left.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Zeietgist..first you should know that Govt didnt acted its own on banning porn site..its from SC..now its very difficult to Govt search which has child porn content, which dont..they have identified some & ban..there are thousands of site, its impossible to ban all..so there is no question of attack on freedom, one who want to watch still can watch..If individual freedom threatens the society, then Govt has all the right to use its power..thats why controversial films/books are banned by every successive Govts just on public perception..thats why champion of freedom the USA has installed CCTV cameras in every corner of the country..doesnt this voilate individual privacy,freedom..

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  • kokerir, Indian/Abudhabi

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Dear Zeitgeist,
    I have read your comments and reply,s could you please list benefits of watching PORN? keeping in mind your beloved ones will be impacted as well.
    My view is allowing easy access to PORN is effecting the teenagers as they will not be in state of mind what is right and wrong and there are so called rapes takes place, by restricting it damage can be reduced.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    kokerir,

    So you want to make access to porn difficult???? how? please tell me.

    The ISP were ordered to block 800 or so sites. what what about millions of other porn sites out there?

    Most of the kids out there say 14 and over tend to be good in computers these days. They will figure out a way to access those sites if they really want to.

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Shankar,

    Thanks for your frank opinion.
    We talk about adult sites on Net.
    Is there any control how these smart phones are misused?
    During our days no such gadgets were available but that does not mean to say that people were that innocent.

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  • Hussain, dxb

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Even small kids use Smart phones and they can access anything..I mean ANYTHING !! Dangerous generation ! High school students from 6th std also own mobiles nowadays and they get stuffs so easily ..Meanwhile spoiling the minds of these students and there career will have an drastic dip

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    INDIAN, Mangalorean,
    Forget about Modi & politics.
    Give some frank opinion on the captioned article.
    Just a debate on the subject.

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Ban adult porn sites and also ban smart phones and the applications WhatsApp, Viber, Hangouts etc.............

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    In India the availability of porn content on net should be restricted. As long as you don’t feel comfortable sending your daughter with her boyfriend on dinner dates, ie as long as casual consendual sex is not acceptable in our society, porn should be banned. As long as the brothels are not legalized and become acceptable, porn should be banned.
    The easy availability of porn content, provokes a man for forcible sex when there are no other options. There is direct link between porn and rapes. Most of the rapists interrogated reveal that they had watched porn on the day of the crime.
    For people who defend availability of porn content over the internet by saying that ‘bed room should not be controlled’ I have a question.
    Can I defend myself possessing and consuming cocaine in my bedroom?

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  • Hussain, dxb

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Sensible comments :) Cheers

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Shankar,

    You think you are too clever by equating watching porn with snorting cocaine. But i think you are a fool.

    Where did you hear or read that watching porn will make a person rape somebody? Does it make you an urge to rape somebody? then there is something wrong with you.

    Porn has nothing to do with rape just as violence in the movies has nothing to do with the murders in reality.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Shankar,

    A normal guy watches porn almost everyday. By that sense the rapist is bound to watch porn before raping.

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Zeitgeist, Mangalore,
    Most of us want a ban on porn sites.
    If it is so uncomfortable to live without these as seen by your comments, you may please use some VPN to get through.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Shankar,

    How did you determine that majority want ban of porn sites?

    You have really not got the point what i am trying to make. Take a look at all the countries in the world were porn is not banned. Most , if not all are democratic nations. Now check were porn is banned. most likely they are not democratic countries. If you want to ban porn, please go ahead and ban it. But please remember that by doing so our country could be closer to some theocratic country than a democratic country.

    Please dont give excuse of porn as a reason for rapes. if that were the case then most men would have committed rapes. Do you remember delhi rape case. do you think they got idea to rape from watching porn?? no i dont think so. the youngest male was 17, so he might have known what sex is at that time. I did not hear in the documentary the driver saying ... we watched porn and then decided to rape. Do you know what is more responsible for rapes if you ask me.. its not porn but alcohol. All of the convicted in delhi rape case were drunk. why dont i hear anybody talking about banning alcohol. Some how that doesnt come to anybody`s mind. Next, did you really what that driver believed .. he believed that women who go out at night deserved to be raped. now were did that thinking come from? I am not gonna sit on high horse and tell you this but its the result of our society and how we persive women. Our society is the problem. we do not respect women. If a women wears western cloths then she is a slut. if she goes out at night she is a whore. who puts these things in our minds? These are the questions that we have to ask ourself and try to correct them and not not go on some wild goose chase banning some things that no study has shown increase violence against women.

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  • INDIAN, MANGALORE

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Is it possible to ban foreign tour so we can save lot of money on petrol....

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  • INDIAN, MANGALORE

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Whether u ban or lift the ban.....but cant divert the issue of Lalit gate scam and Vyapam Scam.....people are not foooool like u guys...

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  • Asif, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    WE CAN BE PRESENT IN VERY FEW'S BED ROOM ONLY..... HHAHAHAHA....

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  • Suresh, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Do you mean to say that the youngsters of yesteryears were saints/innocent? (without porn sites and other easy accessibility)

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  • william, mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    This Govt. is leading towards Fekuism day by day. Totally confused about what to do and what not to do. Only blind bhakts can accept this.

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Ban pornography and allow/open new Red light streets.

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  • Francis, Dubai

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Very absurd comment. I did not expect from you my friend.

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  • Shankar, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Flavian's comment is perfect. When you are ready to accept brothels next to your street, fine, then porn can be permitted.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Dear Supreme Court Judges:

    BANISH AND BAN THIS GOVERNMENT FROM RULING.

    THIS IS THE FATE US WHEN A NAIVE AND INEXPERIENCED MEN RULE THE COUNTRY.

    BESHARAM JHOOT PARTIES COW GOVERNMENT.

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  • vincent rodrigues, katapadi/b'lore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Porn sites are required to be banned in total because it does not give any good knowledge instead spoil the youth of our country.

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  • INDIAN, MANGALORE

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    This shows how qualified these people are?

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  • Anees, KARKALA

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Govt to release BAN LIST..in Time..not a every month or week to release media market...its not a good government structure...
    One BAN ,Feku plan immediate Foreign Tour..

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  • Indian, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    This Government is elected for BAN,
    and U turn after U turn, and all type of JUMLE bhaji. They are totally confused of their policies.
    God only Bless this country

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    I wonder if this Government is PERVERT ...

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  • India First, India

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    We need to Ban first 'Ban'. Ban is not solution for everything.

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  • j.anata, Mangaluru / Bengaluru

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Good you're in India and not in Saudi Arabia!

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  • INDIAN, MANGALORE

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Thats the only reason we are seeing 3 years old, 5 years old girl getting raped....shame....

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Mon, Aug 10 2015

    Indian,

    How did you come to the conclusion that watching porn will lead to pedophilia.

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  • Anonymous,

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    @Zeitgeist,

    Might be self confession lol.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 11 2015

    Anonymous,

    That was funny.... :)

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