Mangaluru: BJP indulging in hate politics; beef is a personal choice: MLC Ivan


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Daijiworld Media Network - Mangaluru (MD)

Mangaluru, Nov 4: "The BJP is the ruling party in India, and the opposition in Karnataka. It should know that as opposition, it is as powerful as the ruling party. But if we ponder on some of its recent activities, it looks like BJP is trying to disturb peace in the society and indulging in hate politics," said MLC Ivan D'Souza.

Addressing a press meet on Wednesday October 4 at Mangaluru City Corporation office here, Ivan referred to chief minister (CM) Siddaramaiah's recent statement on beef and said, "Eating or not eating beef is left to the individual to decide. It is a personal matter. The CM has expressed his own personal opinion, but for this BJP has decided to protest against him. In Karnataka Prevention of Cow Slaughter and Cattle Preservation Act of 1964 is still in force. We are not encouraging anyone to kill cows. Beef does not mean cow meat alone, it can be ox or buffalo meat also."

"BJP leader S N Channabasappa, a former president of the erstwhile Shivamogga city municipal council and former CM Jagadish Shettar have openly said a few things which are not right and it will violate peace in the society. BJP should not bring caste and religion into politics and instead work for the development of the country. Today India is the second largest exporter of beef, and that too it is exported from Gujarat. Those exporting beef are not minorities, they are just doing their work," he said.

Speaking about the Kasturirangan report, Ivan siad, "As many as 11 districts and 40 taluks are going to get affected as per the report. Houses and land which come under the Kasturirangan report are marked as sensitive areas and people will have to leave everything behind and move. Regarding this issue, extensive discussions have been done and many protests have been held. This has come to the notice of the government and the government has promised it will not allow the implementation of the Kasturirangan report. M Madan Gopal, additional chief secretary to the government, forest ecology and environment department has submitted the objection copy to the centre on behalf of the state government on October 20 and on October 26, the centre has acknowledged the receipt of the copy."

Regarding the recent claims by MP Shobha Karandlaje about Congress not doing anything about the Kasturirangan report, MLC Ivan said that the documents are with him and said that he will send a copy to Shobha Karandlaje through speedpost without delay to read and review the objections.

Condemning the recent gang war Mangaluru jail that resulted in two murders, Ivan said, "Months before this incident and similar other these incidents took place in the jail, I had already informed the state government in the Legislative Council about the lack of safety and security of the jail inmates. In February this year, I had requested to install mobile jammer in the jail and the home ministry had said it would request the government for sanction. But so far mobile jammers have not been installed, even though the instruments to install mobile jammers have already come from Chennai and kept in a corner in the jail. This is the biggest lapse from the staff who are working in the jail. In the Legislative Council I had requested the home ministry to shift the jail from the city to Chelur and Kurnad village in Bantwal, but the matter is still not sorted out.

"There are CCTVs in the jail which are not in working condition. CCTVs are installed in the new jail building, but there is no camera in the old jail. Tomorrow itself the CCTVs must be installed. If the jail authorities do not have funds or are not getting the grant, then I am ready to install the CCTVs with the help of my MLC fund. There are no handheld metal detectors, door frame metal detectors and baggage scanners, nor proper inspection in the jail. I have already informed the authorities about all this and I do not know why there is lapse in fulfilling responsibilities," he said.

When a reporter questioned whether it was a failure of the former home minister K J George, he said, "There are men working under the home minister and officers who were working under him and not doing their work properly. We cannot blame the home minister for it. I would have blamed the government if it had failed to provide the things requested for. But here it is the mistake of the people who were working in the home ministry and people who are working in the jail."

Chairman of Mangaluru Urban Development Authority, Haji Ibrahim Kodijal and others were also present on this occaison.

On this occasion Ivan also revealed that he has been awarded with honourary doctorate in "People's Development" and "Upliftment of the marginalised" by the Indian Virtual University for Peace and Education.

  

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  • Ravi, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    ಅನ್ಯ ಧರ್ಮಿಯರು ಹಿಂದೂಗಳ ಸಿದ್ಧಾಂತವನ್ನು ತಪ್ಪಾಗಿ ಅರ್ಥೈಸಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ನಾವು ಪೂಜಿಸುವ ಪ್ರಾಣಿ "ಗೋವು" ಅಂದರೆ ಅದು ದನ ಮತ್ತು ಎತ್ತು ಮಾತ್ರ. ಶುದ್ಧ ಹಾಲನ್ನು ಪಡೆಯಲು ದನವನ್ನು ಸಾಕುತ್ತೇವೆ, ಅದೇ ವ್ಯವಸಾಯಕ್ಕೆ ಸಹಾಯ ಮಾಡಲು ಎತ್ತನ್ನು ಬಳಸುತ್ತೇವೆ. ಕಟುಕರಿಗೆ ಇವೆಲ್ಲಾ ಮಾಮುಲಿ. ಹಣದ ಆಸೆಗೆ ಏನನ್ನು ಬೇಕಾದರೂ ಮಾಡಬಲ್ಲರು/ಮಾರಬಲ್ಲರು. ಹಿಂದೂ ಧರ್ಮಿಯರು ಅಧಿಕ ಸಂಖ್ಯೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಇರುವ ನಮ್ಮ ಭಾರತ ದೇಶದಲ್ಲಿ, ಹಿಂದೂಗಳಿಗೆ ಅನೂಕೂಲವಾಗುವ ಹಾಗು ಅವರಿಗೆ ಹಿತವೆನಿಸುವ ಪದ್ದತಿ ಜಾರಿಗೆ ತರುವುದರಲ್ಲಿ ಯಾವುದೇ ಸಂಕೋಚ ಬೇಡ. ಹಾಗೆನೆ, ಅನ್ಯ ಧರ್ಮಿಯರು ಮಾಂಸ ತಿನ್ನುವುದಾದಲ್ಲಿ ಗೋವು ಬಿಟ್ಟು ಉಳಿದ ಯಾವುದೆ ಪ

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  • Bhaskar Acharya, Shirva

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    BJP indulging in hate politics and your party indulging in intolerance politics!

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    Oh…..It’s Ivan speaking correct???? What did CONGiss did for last several decades in allover India?

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    Henry Misquith,

    I have not come across 240 plus Agrees to any comments in this Forum for the last three years!

    Desh bachana hai tho
    sub milke BJP ko hatavo
    (next elections)

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  • Well wisher, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    To All Politicians Across India,
    Instead of passing so many communal comments against each religion use the same time in thinking over developing the nation.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    What is the wrong in killing FOREIGN PETTHA'S.

    WE ARE KILLING ONLY FOREIGN PETTHA'S NOT COUNTRY/NATIONAL PETTHA'S.

    BECAUSE OF FOREIGN PETTHA'S OUR CHILDREN HAVE PLENTY OF MILK.

    WHAT THESE COUNTRY PETTHA IS GIVING THE MILK.

    ONLY PISK/PISK. MOST MEANS AAJI KONDE PEIR THINKKUNDU. ONJI FAMILYKG YAARUJI.

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  • Antony Fernandes, Mangaluru/USA

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    The most shameful thing in India is, these Gujjus are claiming vegetarians, but highest beef is exported from Gujarat. The owner of these companies are all Hindus. Such a shame to you all BJPians why you all can not go to Gujarat with old chapples and catch these guys and beat them in public saying that "Kya Hamko ch##%^ya Banatha hey kya" that itself is an answer for your cows holiness!

    Even in US these veg claiming Gujjus selling Beef burgers, Chicken, Pork and other non veg stuff, what a joke to the whole world, I just can not stop my laugh........

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    Hate Politics?
    1. It's agenda of Sangh pariwar imposed on people of India.
    2. Those dislike Sanghi Agenda are termed as anti nationals.
    3. Gradually, our fundamental rights like choice of food, type of clothing, language, type of prayer, exercise, even the caste of spouse should be per their agenda.
    4. Hope they will not go to depth of water and Jungle to teach the living beings to live on vegetarian food.

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  • Albert D'Souza, San Francisco/India

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    Union of India is unique & made up with many former Independent princely states like Kerala, Tiruchenapali, Nizams Hyderabad, Muslim states of Northern India, Rajput states of north western India, Muslim majority State of Kashmir, French India, Portuguese India, Bombay State, Direct & indirect British controlled India. No one single ruler was able to unite India except England. Thanks to England for uniting India & introducing Civil service and Law. Hindu Princely states were unable to control much of territory in India due to infighting among themselves & division among themselves due to cast system. I am afraid that present hatred among people & politics and Holy cow may lead disintegration of India like former Soviet union & pre world war Europe. Please pray and work for one United Union of India.

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  • Adolf, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    Dear all readers,
    There are lot of issues in India and taking “Beef” as a weapon the politicians are creating lot of publicity to themselves. Instead of concentrating on population growth, poverty and working on development of the country people fight for silly things like Beef issues.
    Think out of the box… the leather belts, shoes, jackets and all other things are made out of what? Cow skin isn’t it? Those people who worship Cow as god shouldn’t ware it correct? Why there is no hesitation regarding the cow skin, but it’s only the meet which is creating issues?
    The farmers who have cattle, they sell milk and after a certain age they sell the cow for meet. This way they get some money. What should these poor families do?
    Hindu, Muslim, Christian and there are so many religions in India, why do people hate each other. The issues regarding religion is never ending story in India. I hope people try to grow up, think and stop fighting and for silly things like this.

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  • Francis (Joe) Martis, Barkur/USA

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Eating Beef is individual choice & also freedom of right. Banning any food stuff which are not harmful to health is unjustified. Politicians should do things that are needy, not make peoples choice their prohibition.

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  • Ullas, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    If BJP doing this kind Politics then the idea of Development is a big bluff. To No BJP leader is talking of Development. They are mouthful of COW and Only Cow. May be in Bihar election Holy Cow will curse them. If Nitish Wins BJP election that will be biggest game change in Indian current politics. Laloo is 100% better than intolerant leader like Yogi Adityanath & other. BJP is becoming private Enterprise of Amit Shah. Seems like encouraging this anti social elements.

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    " BEEF " IS TAKING CENTER STAGE FOR THE VOTE BANKS !!

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  • clvie, Kuwait

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    Its also true that BJP promised development but now it only talks about "Holy cow".

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  • Valerian D Souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Saffron brigade is intruding in privacy of a person to the extent of:
    1. Choosing our food menu.
    2. Number of children, however
    their community is out of the
    clutch, they should produce more
    3. Cloths that we should wear
    4. Life partner whom we must choose
    5. Language that we should speak
    6. Way of Prayer
    7. Yoga should be the form of
    exercise
    8. Ayurvedic Medicines from Baba
    Ramdev
    9. Choice of Political party.
    Others are termed as anti
    nationals.

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  • Rezy, mlore/mct

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Beef, communal, protest, curfew, laticharge, stone pelting, damage,rowdism, gangwar,

    we can only see such words everywhere when we think of our districts.

    Welcome to smart peoples district.

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  • ABD, LOS ANGELES

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    NOBODY IS TAKING LOSER IVAN'S WORDS SERIOUSLY...!!!

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Ivan & Janna two faces of same coin...

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  • Roland,

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    stop blowing your trumpet.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    We don’t kill national / contry pettha for beef.
    WE ARE KILLING ONLY FOREIGN PETTHA’S FOR BEEF/MEAT.

    HERE ARE FEW FOREIGN BREED NAMES OF PETTHA’S

    1) Angus Pettha.
    2) Hereford Pettha.
    3) Holstein Friesian Pettha
    4) Charolais Pettha
    5) Jersey Pettha
    6) Brown Swiss Pettha
    7) Belted Galloway Pettha
    8) Chianian Pettha
    9) Santa Gertrudis Pettha
    10) Beefmaster Pettha,
    11) Galloway Pettha
    12) Milking Shorthom Pettha
    13) Pinzgauer Pettha
    14) British White Pettha
    15) Braunvieh Pettha
    16) Normande Pettha
    17) Montbeliarde Pettha
    18) American Milking Devon Pettha
    19) Austin Pettha
    20) Florida cracker pettha
    21) Swedish red Pettha
    22) Norwgian red Pettha


    MOREOVER, KILLING PETTHA IS NOT A CRIME AND A SIN.

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    👆Today's problems

    Beef Khana ho toh Pakistan Jao
    👆Yoga na karna ho toh Pakistan Jao
    👆Surya Namaskar Na karna ho toh Pakistan Jao
    👆Modi Na pasand ho toh Pakistan Jao
    👆Black Money Chaiyeh Ya 15 Lac chaiyeh toh Pakistan Jao
    👆BJP/Rss Pasand nahi toh Pakistan Jao
    👆Secular hona hai toh Pakistan Jao
    Desh Chala Rahe Hai Ya Pakistan Tourism Promote Kar Rahe Hai 😁😜

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  • Gangaram, Moodabidri

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    I really liked it!!

    by this way BJP is trying to finish human beings in INDIA.....

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  • Alwyn, Canadian

    Thu, Nov 05 2015

    Next generation of india will be only cows. Human race will be the food for cows.

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  • Raghavendra , Mangalore ,

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Dear Ivan

    It is really nice to read your comments which really make sense and is testimony to your Law background . We wish all leaders were of diverse nature such as yours . India is democratic country and this is what makes us stand out with proudness in entire world . By forcing on persons on their eating /other habits this does not send a good message to foreign nationals who want to invest in India .
    Each other food habits should be respected and all given a right to enjoy our democracy for which our great leaders like Gandhiji were ready to give their life rather than ending up like a talibanised mangalore.

    We are extremely happy with the way our honble CM Mr Siddaramahiahji is leading or state and mangalorean MLC /MLC Mr Ivan and Mr Lobo are leading mangalore .Hats off to your Sirs and Keep up the good work

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Only Voters can teach them a LESSON ...

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    RSS will bring civil war in this nation very soon...

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  • siddarth, mangalore

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Mr.Ivan you forgot beef ban was always there in india as was introduced by the Congress . Now ever since BJP is in power you are creating a scean as if for the firdt time Beef is banned . Doing Dongi is one thing and fooling public is another thing . You can continue the Nautanki anyways .

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  • Harold Dcunha, Mangalore, India

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    siddarth, mangalore
    If beef ban is there, why BJP creating issue for publicity and dividing society.

    Mr. Ivan clearly said, Congress will not encourage cow slaughter and it was Congress has enacted this law. But not beef ban, as beef is including baffallo and ox too.

    Very sensible comments by Ivan.

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  • nazeer, ullal/dubai

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Ayyo karma.oriyardori asal

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  • Nithesh, Mangalore

    Wed, Nov 04 2015

    Oriyardori asal maatre att kudla telipaale bokka bale telipaale. We politicians bai bududnaga telipaandinaklula teleper. Eer bale nama goli bajela cha parka..akulu thayyad

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