Udupi: 5,000 Dalits to embrace Buddhism on October 30


Udupi: 5,000 Dalits to embrace Buddhism on October 30
The Hindu

Udupi, Oct 12: Convener of the State unit of Karnataka Dalit Sangharsha Samiti (Ambedkar Vada) Mavalli Shankar said on Sunday that nearly 5,000 Dalits will participate in the “Buddha Dharma Deeksha Samarambha” and embrace Buddhism at the Ambedkar Bhavan in Bangalore on October 30.

Addressing presspersons here, Shankar said that similar samarambhas would be held in other districts of the State later on. The samiti would take the message of the Buddha to the villages under its “Buddhanedege, marali manege” programme. “Religious conversion is a Constitutional right and Pejawar swamiji cannot stop people from embracing the religions of their choice,” he said.

Shankar said that instead of protecting the churches and prayer halls from attacks, Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa was keen to take action against forced conversions in the State. He should first stop the attacks. He said that some Hindu seers had recently staged a protest in Bangalore against the alleged threat to Hindu religion owing to conversions. These seers should realise that Dalits were still the targets of atrocities by other castes. “Untouchability is still prevalent in the Hindu society,” he said. 

Shankar said that some Hindu seers were alleging that inducements, including financial assistance, were being offered for conversion. It was no secret that some maths had a following in foreign countries and received donations from there. Nobody prevented the seers from converting people to Hinduism. Conversion was not as simplistic as the seers were presenting it to be.The seers should introspect themselves on why people are getting converted,” he said. Yeddyurappa had failed to deliver what he promised.

The Bharatiya Janata Party Government had given a 700-acre plot to the Ramachandrapur Math, but it did not have any land for landless Dalits in the State. The Government had waived the loans of farmers but not the Rs. 400-crore worth loans availed by poor Dalits from Ambedkar Corporation. The condition of Dalit hostels was pathetic but Yeddyurappa had not provided more funds for their improvement, he said.

  

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  • Charles D'Mello, Pangala

    Tue, Nov 04 2008

    Dear Yashoda Bangalore/ USA Eating Cow and Pork is not a sin. For that reason eating anything for hunger will not create any sin. Sin is in what think and speak about others. Being in USA do not act like " COOPA MANDUKA" if you see or atleast read in the whole world anything and everything palatable is eaten as food. For e.g Most of Chinese and Korean food indians will not like ( E.g Snakes). Open up.

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  • Charles D'Mello, Pangala

    Tue, Nov 04 2008

    Where are the people who were opposing conversion ?? Sleeping ??? Why cant you stop conversion now ??? My dear instead of making a big hue and cry regarding the conversion, find out the reasons for conversion and try to correct the difference of opinion among yourselves. If not others will get benifitted.

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  • krishna, Puttur

    Fri, Oct 17 2008

    hi all, Actually the term 'Convertion' does not suit here as Jains,Buddhists and Sikhs are Hindus. We may be still following the Maccaley system(I wonder why people still didnt change it) which says above 3 are different from Hindusism, but simple example is , followers of all above sects visit Hindu temples , celebrate deepavali and the cow is sacred for all of them There are cases where sikhs have died for protection of cow. In facts Sikh sect was formed by Guru govind singh for the protection of Hindus from the oppression of Muslim.

    Do not fall into prey to Maccaley's 'Divide and rule ' policy that Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs are not Hindus.Thus just stop making big noice about this so called 'conversion'.It is just change of belief

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  • Prakash Pinto, Derebail, Dubai

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Dear Mahesh you are running out of Knowledge.Take some tuitions in INDIAN HISTORY.This will tell you whether CHRISTANITY is a alien Or a true Religion.In History it is Saying,AD and BC. Dear friend you'll know the meaning of this only after passing History.

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  • Prashant, Dubai/mangalore

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Folks do u think your comments make situation peaceful.....? Being a Hindhu Inever felt any harm about other religion....after started reading comments in Daijiworld  I realy feel may be somewhere bajaranngis are right!!!

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Dear Readers. Read this below news which happened on 11th OCT.08 Dalit killed for offering at temple PATNA: A Dalit was shot dead in Nalanda district of Bihar as he tried to make offerings to goddess Durga ahead of upper caste people. Nine people wer e injured in clashes between Dalits and upper caste men at Jiyar village on Friday. The clashes began when devotees were getting ready for the idol immersion procession.

    A critically injured Karu Paswan died on the way to the Patna Medical College and Hospital. Nalanda SP Vineet Vinayak said an argument between Dalits and upper caste people of the village over who will offer 'prasad' to goddess Durga first started the clashes. "After a heated argument, there were clashes and brickbatting. During the melee, someone fired injuring Paswan and others," Vinayak told TOI on Sunday.

    Police registered a case against seven people and arrested one of them. The man, who fired at the Dalits, has been identified as Ratan Singh. Police said the Dalits and upper caste families had a long dispute over a plot of land the village had donated for installation of a durga idol several years ago.

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  • Krishna Yeddyurappa, Udupi/Mumbai/Baroda

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Dear Friends whatever is happening is happening for their good this is their belief so please do not try to ignite, or else it want be any difference between you and those people who are creating trouble for nothing. They too like to live in diginity. We just have to say to them Good Luck God Bless.

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  • M.Bhat, Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    I agree with both Rajesh, M'lore, Dubai & Rajesh Barbodos, that when it comes to religion this board attracts lot of peoples all over the world. This makes me feel that there fanatics in every religion. For these narrow minded people religion is much more greater than their motherland & they only identify themselves with their religion.

    I too feel shame about this tendency and trait. when people do not think in the way you think and donot accept your views you start making accusations. This is a form of frustration. By spewing venom on Hindus, BJP etc., you cannot be called secular.

    I have observed here that in the rat race of critising BD some people are hurting the sentiments of secular Hindus like us. Further embracement of Dalits to buddhism is thete choice and I feel there has been no fraud, coercision & misrepresentation in that. Some people have welcomed the conversion by thumping their chests, forgetting their own ancestory.

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  • ISHA, Bangalore

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Bajarang dal and VHP Where are you? try to stop this conversion and dont try to burn Buddhist temples.

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  • mahesh, mangalore

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Buddhisim is an offshoot of hindusim and follows most of the tenants of hindusim. It is orgin of hindustan unlike christanity which is a alien religion.All religions have caste system, hence dalits belonging to hindus,sikhs, buddhisim,islam and christans have reservation. Kudroli temple is for billivas, by billavas and of billivas.. they don't allows sc/st's to enter the temple.

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  • Sanjeev, Patla/Kuwait

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Even Dr Ambedkar, Father of our Constitution, embraced Buddhism during the later part of his life because he was distressed by the continuing discrimination against the schedule caste, especially the untouchability tradition.

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  • Roshan Pais, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    I want to repsond to Yashodha's comments. the question here is not whether its harder to accept or not. The question is conversion without force is accepted or not. By stating that its harder to accept for hindu's you Let the cat out of the bag! That is you dont want hindu to convert even without force!

    SO USING THE WORD 'FORCED CONVERSION" IS JUST A TACTIC THEN!!! THE REAL REASON WAS NEVER FORCED CONVERSION RATHER THE BEEF EATING OR PORK EATING... RIGHT... FOLKS?

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  • Ronald , mumbai

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Now why is not the BD/VHP and the Matts not saying any thing about religion conversion as about 5000 hindus are being converted and even a date has been d and y is the so called Honorable CM of the state not giving a single statement about hindus converting to Buddhism has the wind come out of the bloated balloon , and where is the so called leaders who have been given the right to protect the hindu religion not heard a statement from any one

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  • Ronald, barkur

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Mohan Poojary has said it all. Yes, go ahead and treat the Dalits well. Then, perhaps many Dalits may want to become or remain Hindu. Gandhiji called the so-called "untouchables" as God's People or "Harijans". So then merely pointing out to the pilgrim where the peep-hole of Kanakadasa "used to be" is no big deal, but loving your brethren, the Dalits,as you love yourself ... that's when they would not want to adopt or change to any religion other than Hinduism.

    However, it is then that one also automatically "becomes" a Christian for all practical purposes ! Think about it !!

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  • Clement , Bantwal / Doha- Qatar

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Dalits you have done a good job, dosent matter religion, faith is importent. this is lesson from dalits to the un-educate bajrang people.

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  • Ava, Bangalore

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Why do we need religions. If all religions preach godliness then why the differences. Doesnt God forgive those who ask for forgiveness. God loves everyone equally all you have to do is overcome the evil in you, Buddha tried to emphise this, Christ tried to simplify it, Love, Forgivness, Un-Selfishness and Equality should be the four pillars of your life. Prayers, donations, Fasting etc are things we if not done sincerely have no value. likewise voilence in the name of religion has no place in a civilized society.

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  • Priya Das, Karkala / Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Now where are those Bhagrangis, VHPs, and such fanatics? Are they preparing for any fresh attacks on the Buddhists who support the Dalits getting converted into Buddhism?

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  • Rajesh, M'lore, Dubai

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    I am completely agree with Mr. Rajesh, Barbados when it comes to religion this board attracts lot of peoples from all over the world, I think these people are very fanatics, they thinks their religion is much more greater than their motherland they only recognize themselves with their religion, I feel shame on this communalists.

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  • Francis, Kuwait

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    BD and VHP are you listening or sleeping.

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  • raju, kaup

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Arun Manipal, wants to cover his face, you wont see these 5000 in the temple and they wont follow you teachings, its better you make a hole in the ground and hide your face till Oct 30, then come out this is just the begining, every one wants to live in dignity, What happened in Bihar yesterday are you aware ' A DALIT WAS KILLED FOR ENTERING A TEMPLE BY UPPER CASTE, who gave them the authority, these people who say they are upper caste their forefather may have been worse then Dalit's, and some of their grandfather or father may have converted to Bhramin, only people who convert are fundamentlist, they try to protect the religion that they are in now, that is what happening with this Bajrang Dal etc. so dont try to fool people by saying Buddhism is hindu, then why all this publicity and this grand functions going on to convert, please try to attend the function and give your greetings my friend, why all this jealousy, let them live in peace and dignity.

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  • Leslie, kadri

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Well done dalits I think bajrangdal/rss/vhp also will do the same thing in near future wait and see

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  • Yoshada, bangalore/usa

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Buddhism and Jainism is an offshoot of hinduism. The Hindu's do not have a problem with it. There is a historic evidence regarding this. However, converting to christianity of a family breaks it off completely as it introduces the eating of cow that is sacred to the hindus and pork that the muslims do not eat.

    So if a hindu or muslim family member converts it is that much hard for us to accept. Also, these days there are a lot of people into buddhism classes that have sprung up. These classed do not put down hindu gods or belief's as what the "new life" and you christians do. Buddhism does not say that buddha is the only way to achieve salvation or that buddha is a close relative (such as a son ) to god.

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  • clifford, dubai

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    it seems BAJRANGI's lost their tail this time!!!! happy jumping

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  • oliver, mangalore/canada

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Rajesh comment about an aussie- did you do a market survey of entire Australia or just a biased comment ?? I do agree with you , your so called your " AN AUSSIE" or many Australians may not be proud to say they are catholics same as many hindus in India and the immigrant lot to western world looking for better life are proud to say there are hindus.

    Being lived in UNITED ARAB EMIRATES for 10 years I strongly disagree with you, all arabs appreciate Indian muslims , i did witness an incident at naif road mosque an arab (emarathi)refused to stand close to a malbari muslim while offering prayers. at the end budhism, jainism and sikhism- is not another way of living within hindus, they are all different religions, dont console your self

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  • Wiliam, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 14 2008

    Propogating a religion is the fundmental right of any individul.Nobody can stop it. To accept what is good is left to an individual's conscience. No child is born with a religion on its forehead.Every one has the right to choose what is best as per his or her belief.

    I don't think any one shall change religion just because one would get some promises. If that was the case let them start converting Budhist to Hindus. I am sure the B.Dals are also not working freely to carry out goondaism in the society. They are also paid heavily for their foolish acts.

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  • Lancelot N. Tauro, Manglore - Doha qatar

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Mr. Mohan Poojary what a wonderful comments you have narrated, its true these community people during their wedding function, we have seen how they treat worst than animal, feed the tribes with left over food thrown out near their entrance.

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  • MOHAN POOJARY, Kankanady,Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Conversion of Hindus to other religion we have to blame Brahmins, this caste even today they are thinking they are superior among Hindus. for e.g. sri. Kukke Subraminiiya temple there is seperate meals(spl.) section for brahmins. Even Carstreet Konkanis also having same attitude.

    Brahmins and Konkani locals of Sri Gogarnath temple, Kuduroli, they are hesitant to visit this temple, because they are thinking ARCHAKAS of this temple do not belong to brahmins community. There is thousands of acres land belongs to Pejawar or udipi Matas. This land government should distribute to landless Dalit hindus.

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  • N. Mundo, Udupi/KSA

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Interesting, Buddists are not hindus, please visit below links http://www.religionfacts.com/buddhism/fastfacts.htm http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_buddhism.asp Is there any buddist temple in udupi/mangalore? please give it bajrang-dal. Let them burn it.

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  • Rajesh, Barbados

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Anything which relates to religion attracts a lot more readers! I feel its more fun, after all converting to Buddhism perhaps been accepted by more fanatic groups and same with seers knowing Buddhism is another way of living with in the Hindus just like Jainism and Sikhism!

    Apparently the same happens in international level where Muslims, goes more religious in Gulf States and is been well appreciated by Arabs .Doesn’t it an added value to India? As they feel happy with Indians traditionally accurate and very much ethical! But sad when a Christian gets a reply when he says am a catholic to an Aussie.

    Reply from Aussie comes in a warring style and it is "you said it once and do not repeat it " that’s where appreciation comes when you have no religion and to believe there is no god exists! All this happens in one world and between human beings! Govt can definitely play a major role creating unique style, best example is the old USSR! There may be other disadvantageous but clearly a good practice on religion and its belief. It’s a great deal to pray before you start eating food. I have practiced it only with Christian who follows it with lots of meaning!

    I would love to follow the same. It’s good to take the best from any religion. After all to have the best, you and I should have best friends from every community. Good luck to all who will be Buddhist from tomorrow, hope all you have peace in life! Having converted doesn’t help but you need to know the life style which Siddhartha advised to all who wish to live as Buddhist. Best wishes from the Island! Infact, its just the time which makes it a big news else it would have been gone unnoticed!

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  • Parvez, Mlore/Muscat

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Dear Arun, going to your point, as you said "Buddhisum is a part of the Hindu religion", THEN WHY YOU DO THESE PEOPLE NEED CONVERSION? CANT THEY FOLLOW BEING IN THE SAME RELIGION? This proves Buddism is not Hinduism, we always see these MASS CONVERSION like last year more than 50,000 Hindus converted to Buddism in a single day.

    Hindu Organizations should work hard to know the reason behind these conversions, and for peacefull enviornement with other religions. Else a Day will come when HINDUSTAN will become BUDDISTAN. Jai Hindh!

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  • Vish, mangalore\usa

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    What is hindu, one first understand. Hindu is the term used by muslims to tell people who are living and practicing indian culture( mainly living east side of sindhu). SO Budha is a part of hindu culture. they wear hindu dress.they have hindu philosophy and name, which has been part of puranas. Jain and budhism has evolved from "sramana" philosophy.

    go from one place to another place for food, also says dont be jealous, take pain of the body,they support vegeitariniwm, not drinking and follow Indian guru and visit indian sacred places not foreign. Because of this only RSS/VHP/Bajarangadal is not against this. They infact support this. So instead of calling them self dalit and living budhist life is better. .

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  • RIHAB, udupi

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    First of All we should educate the low classed Bajrangdal members.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    @ Arun, Manipal : By all means, Buddhism is a Hindu's property. I am glad that this conversion is inter-transfer only ! However, what do you have to say for the reason that they are converting for ? i.e. "These seers should realise that Dalits were still the targets of atrocities by other castes. “Untouchability is still prevalent in the Hindu society,” he said" There are cases coming up even today of a Dalit being beaten up for entering a temple.

    How do you explain that ?

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  • Arun Kumar, Bangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    The message of Convenor of the State unit of Karnataka Dalit Sangharsha Samiti (Ambedkar Vada) Mavalli Shankar for their religious hierarchy and for the BJP and its brigade is very loud and clear “ STOP US IF YOU CAN”, “CATCH US IF YOU CAN” or “EITHER SHUT UP OR PUT UP ! Anybody listening specially far away writer ‘induced conversion” article recently ?. Change your perception of mind and write a new article, “WHO INDUCES TO WHOM AND HOW ?”

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  • Anil Suvarna, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Congrats to all the Dalits who got coverted into Buddhism.Atleast now the RSS,VHP,Bhajrang Dal and Swamijis like Pejvar should ask themselves why Dalits are going away from Hinduism.

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  • Arun, manipal

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    oye just listen first here.Buddha is basicaly Hindu ok. He found a good way to live life peacefully. Buddhisum is a part of the Hindu religion.that you people want to know more about Buddha and his real peaceful living technic please check this linkhttp://www.vri.dhamma.org/general/vipintro.html

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  • Ganesh, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    I think today's need is education for all and not religion change.Just changing the religion may not fetch anything.

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  • ashok prabhu, mangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    “Religious conversion is a SHANKER STRESS THE POINT ,"CONVERSION IS A Constitutional right and Pejawar swamiji cannot stop people from embracing the religions of their choice,”

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  • Parvez, Mlore/Muscat

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Any bajrang dals getting converted too? at least Buddhist's mostly are peace loving people.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves , Bannur Puttur/Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    Does the Associates of Bjp need more shame than this??? The government doesn’t know which way it moves, which works to carryout and entirely naïve in running administration. Chief Minister Yeddurappa spoke in the media that missionaries get funds from foreign countries. What about mutts getting money from foreign countries???

    The Subramaniya temple, Car Street temple Mangalore and other temples in the district are getting enormous money from devotees. Can’t they divert money up-lifting the poor??? I cannot blame entirely on the government for the uplifting of poor people.

    Citizens also are responsible for their betterment. What the government can do for the highest dowry payments by citizens? Spending sources for illicit female relations for personal gratification? Citizen’s use excessive drugs especially alcohol? HELPLESS. But this (BJP) government wanted votes and power only in the name of religion.

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  • Ashok Prabhu, Mangalore

    Mon, Oct 13 2008

    UNDER WHAT CATEGORY DO THESE CONVERSIONS COME UNDER... INDUCED PAID FORCE INFLUENCE FAITH UPGRADING OR ? A RIGHT ANSWER IS AWAITED

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  • shankar, mangalore

    Sun, Oct 12 2008

    It is good people in large numbers are converting to buddhism.We shall see what bajrang dal will do now.People get converted to other religions because they see some future in that particular rligion.Jai BUDDHISM.

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  • Deepak D'Cunha, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Sun, Oct 12 2008

    Now, will our Bhjarnag Dal brothers oppose this conversion ?

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  • RIHAB, udupi

    Sun, Oct 12 2008

    hello dear dalits of udupi, its really the great news and the great step.

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  • Joel, Mangalore/Kulshekar

    Sun, Oct 12 2008

    Now where are thsese people who attacked the churches?

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Sun, Oct 12 2008

    Very enlightening article. I hope some reads (and translates) this to Mr. Mahendra Kumar and the brigade that followed him in destroying the Christians' places of worship !

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