Gunman with Message to Raj Thackrey Shot Dead in BEST Bus


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Mumbai, Oct 27: A gunman, hailing from Bihar, who had come to the city to pass on a message to Maharashtra Navnirman Sena president Raj Thackeray, was gunned down by police in an exchange of fire after he kept a conductor of Brihanmumbai Electric Supply and Transport (BEST) bus hostage near Bailbazaar area in the eastern suburb of Kurla.

BEST General Manager Uttam Khobragade said an unidentified man boarded the double-decker bus number 332, running from Kurla to Andheri station, at Sakinaka area. When the bus conductor asked for a ticket or monthly pass, he tied the conductor's hands and allegedly fired few rounds in the air.

The gunman has been identified as 23-year-old Rahul Raj.

"He was shouting Main Patna se aaya hu, mujhe kisi ko kuchh nahi karna hai, main MNS president Raj Thackeray ko massage dena chahata hun' (I have come from Patna. I do not want to harm anyone. I want to pass on a message to MNS president Raj Thackeray)," Khobragade said.

The officer further said at that time, another conductor from the same bus rushed to a nearby police station and informed them about the incident.

Police cordoned off the bus and asked him to surrender. Instead, he allegedly fired at a police team. In the retaliatory firing, he suffered head and chest injuries, and collapsed on the ground.

Meanwhile, a video shot by a news channel shows Raj sitting on the upper level of a double-decker bus and carrying a weapon.

The youth was seen first threatening policemen nearby and running up and down the bus before being shot by police personnel.

The injured gunman was admitted to civic-run Rajawadi Hospital at Ghatkopar, where he was declared dead on admission.

Some youths from Bihar and Uttar Pradesh had come down to the city to appear for Railway Board examination on October 19. They were assaulted by MNS activists. Thereafter, Raj was arrested from Ratnagiri. His arrest had led to state-wide protests by his activists who resorted to stone pelting and arson for his release.

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  • Raymond P. D'souza, Mumbai, Kalina / Dubai.

    Wed, Oct 29 2008

    Well done Mumbai Poilce, don't give a shit to Laloo & co's comments,keep the hard work going on. God Bless Mumbai Poilce

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  • subhash, jharkhand

    Wed, Oct 29 2008

    I agree with u but the way police killed is not at all right

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  • Hemant, Pune

    Wed, Oct 29 2008

    Actually I am a Maharastrian.It was too sad,what happened to the young men.If the young man came here only to give message not to harm no one .& he was shot down .Mumbai police thinks he was dangerous enough to kill him.SHAME ON CURRUPT MUMBAI Police.

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  • Joseph, Ullal

    Wed, Oct 29 2008

    Root cause is Lalu Prasad Yadav,who in order to get Bihari votes complicated this issue in India.It is true that Biharis are targetted elsewhere like Assam,Delhi etc.What is the reason behind this?Most of the Biharis are behind misdeeds.

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  • Aklesh, Mumbai/Oman

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Vijay, are you o.k. or not ? This youth who came from Bihar was poor. The way he did things was not correct. If he had to give any message to Raj this was not the way to give by terrorising innocent people who were travelling in a BEST bus. Vijay why you did not comment when two poor Biharis were beaten to their death last week.

    You felt sorry for Mumbai Police & not for those 2 killed. You did not comment when whole Kalyan was burning last week, Bikes, buses, Autos & Trucks were burned. MNS workers went on rampage burning anything they saw on their way without even seing whose it is. One Bihar boy with a Pistol in his hand was a big crime for you. Now I think outsiders live in Mumbai has to carry a Pistol in his pocket for self defence as Mumbai Police will do nothing if he or she is not a Maharahtrians. Mumbai Police will take care of Marathi Manoos as they are also Marathi Manoos.

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  • Kittu Dhanaraj, Patna/Delhi

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    When 100 of people were beating innocent taxiwala,khomchawala and students who had come in to take exams,there was no law and order problem for Mumbai Police but if because of ONLY ONE YOUTH WHO WANTED TO CONVEY HIS MESSAGE without Hurting innocent People MUMBAI POLICE Got Threatened by Him and THEY Found him Dangerous Enough to KILL....then I AM PROUD OF BEING A FELLOW BIHARI TO SHAHEED RAHUL RAJ.

    MUMBAI POLICE SHOULD THINK,WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF MORE YOUTH IS MOBILSED TAKING INSPIRATION FROM RAHUL RAJ AGAINST RAJ THAKEREY"S GUNDAGARDI !!! Then they will have to OPEN FIRE on PUBLIC...what they should have done During MNS GOONDAGARDI !!! SHAME MUMBAI POLICE !

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  • Gunman with Message, Bombay / UAe

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Fatima Fernandes This young lad should be saluted. His policy was simple "threaten those who threaten him and his state" He died as a martyr for Love of his people in Bihar.

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  • Alfred J. Rebello, Kundapur/Dubai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Though I do not know the truth behind this incident, I have a feeling somebody wants to save the skin of Raj Thakeray and made this man as scapegoat. Otherwise there is no point this man goes to city bus with a gun just to say that he wants to give a message to Raj Thakeray. I am sorry for this man.

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  • Rauf, mangalore/dubai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    ITS VERY SHAMEFUL THEY COULDNT ARREST RAHUL ALIVE THEY WANTED TO GET NAME BY TELLING MEDIA THEY HAVE KILLED TERRORIST WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACT,VERY SHAMEFUL....

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  • Jerome, Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    People against MNS propaganda,please think once again.Many of you felt that MSEZ will employ outsiders if it comes.When Raj Thakrey (for whatever reasons or for political gains) takes such stand we feel bitter.Are we right?

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  • Vijay, Udupi

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    I am surprised. Mostly all viewers have branded the Bihari youth, …….’Innocent, poor , teenager boy’ etc..etc. If he was so called innocent, poor then how he was carrying a 9mm weapon with live cartridges? And he was firing everywhere! Remember that he was just arrived from Bihar, i.e. 5 days ago.

    So, what was his intention? As all of our viewer’s say he came to search for a Radiologist job, carrying a gun? Also some viewers expressed that Mumbai Police should have caught him. Mumbai Police are also human beings, how can they catch him since he was firing everywhere? Vijay, Udupi

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  • Stany Lobo, nekkilagudde-DEREBAIL

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Mr. Rahul Raj, hats off to you. You have made everyone proud.you are a ONE MAN SHOW. not like Raj thackery who is ordering his activists or hiding behind them and sitting and sleeping in bungalows, if Raj thackrey has some daring or guts let him do to all the people of other states ALONE. HATS OFF To RAHUL RAJ

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  • Anil SOANS, UDUPI

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Mumbai police proved themselves, they are not the real police, they are impotent.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves , Bannur Puttur/Mangalore

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    I condemn the shooting/killing of a person who was trying hostage taking of BEST bus passengers and terrorizing them. I want to ask a question to Police of Mumbai does they took right decision? If they are unable to cope with such a small matter how will they manage with big matters? When MNS activists vandalized and terrorizing randomly in Mumbai they didn’t shoot anyone and arrested.

    How they restrained with MNS can’t the police have restrained in this small incident? This act of the police was rude and they have just killed A RAT VERY BRAVELY. I also condemn the act of the person which was senseless and unwanted. This person was threatening with a pistol. How many bullets will be there?

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  • Rizwan Ahmed, Bangalore/Jeddah

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Raj Thakere is solely responsible for the untimely death of this young man. Boy's parents should file a murder case against MNS leader, Raj.

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  • Deepak, Pune

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    What people surrounding the area were doing??? if they were so scared why didn't they run away?? and why they were not stopping the man... They were watching everything like "Tamasha". These incidents happen because we don't raise our voice against people like Raj and Mumbai Police.... I hate those cowards. I agree with Aditya, I see hate everywhere!!

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  • J D S NAVUNDA, padukone

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    RAJ BABA PLEASE STOP ALL   THE. INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED AND YOU ARE NOT A GOOD LEADER. AND NEVER WILL BE ONE.  .MUMBAI POLICE SHAME ON YOU.

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  • Noel Frank, Mangalore/KSA

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Dear Vijay going through the heartfelt comments expressed by the readers in this column in favour of the Indian youth coming from Bihar (Not Bihari ) to Mumbai for a cause, at a time in the words of Mascarenhas Goa Mumbai leaders like Lallu Prasad, Amar singh, Mulayam Singh and likes are shit scared now to come to Mumbai .

    As against the action taken by the Mumbai police , in the words of Ganesh Mumbai “–they shot him down with a pride”, coupled with the prior inaction by the Govt., many of the readers and myself would surely have appreciated your views – No FIR, no custody and no political interference, straightway encounter, if your Mumbai police had the guts to deal the same way the Raj Thackeray and his band of MNS activists, When - T0 Quote Ganesh Mumbai further -what the hell they were doing when common & innocent people were getting beaten by this MNS guys. Have a good day vijay

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  • Anil, Bangalore

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Mumbai Police who were so far idling when the city was burning , courtesy MNS goondagiri, have suddenly become gung-ho and go on a shooting spree, when the Bihari youth could easily have been taken alive. The recent events in Mumbai must've driven this youth to such adventurism.

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  • Ronald, barkur

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Even if the Mumbai Police thought the Bihari man was a threat to people, why did they not overpower him or disarm him one way or another, rather than shoot to kill ? Pray, how did the Mumbai Police become so efficient in target practice using a single mentally disturbed or disoriented man, after having turned a blind eye to the large scale, wanton burning, looting and destruction of Public and Private property by the Senas of Maharashtra over the past four decades or so ?

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  • Abdul Khader Kukkaje, mangalore/u.a.e.

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    This all the causes failure of the democracy.  when the citizen of india is not able to get or enjoy the indian constitutional right, then their expression comes in this illegal way.  So the govt should be aware to protect  each and every individual citizens right.

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  • Jennifer Fernandes, Bahrain

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    I fully agree with Noel Franks words "I salute this brave lad, he was not a coward to plant bombs, nor did he take anyone's life, but his own, he identified himself and his purpose and gave Raj a clear message which even the police and Govts were scared to give." Its so true. People call this guy crazy, but what is our govt doing about this, if this continues and there is no law to curb this its sad to see our young generation getting frustrated to this extent. God save us.

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  • Antony T. D' Souza, Karkala, Doha-Qatar

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    In such incidents Mumbai police could have reacted with little patience to take Rahul Raj alive with minimum respect to life. Did they lacked will ? One more body reaching Bihar would unleash another spell of mindless action causing violence after violence. Congress,Siva Sena and MNS must come the above political differences, conflicts and regionalism to maintain peace and harmony at all cost.

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  • Ronnie, Mangalore/Qatar

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Are we in the brink of Civil war? God save our India.. do not divide us.

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  • ronald, barkur

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    I think the Mumbai Police have over-reacted. The Bihari youth does not seem to be a terrorist of any sort and emotionally a bit unstable-if not, he would not have been so indiscreet to have verbalized his mission. Even if the Police thought he was a threat, why did they not overpower him or disable him in some way, and if they had no choice except to shoot they need not have shot to kill.

    The point is, where were these peacekeepers when the outlaws of the MNS ransacked and burned public and private property in the City ? Did not they look the ‘other way’, just as they did in the 1970s when the parent Sena, with wanton barbarism, nonchalantly destroyed South Indian and other private property along with Government Property ?

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  • KS zahoorAhmed, karkal/KSA

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Our police again showed its ircapability to handle the Situation, Shame! Mumbai Police

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  • victor noronha, Belman-Udupi-Karnataka

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    The state goverment fully responsibility for this case.

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  • Julian D'Mello, mangalore,India

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Now no one is here to blame this poor guy as terrorist...

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  • Vijay, Udupi

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Dear Frank, It’s very easy to criticize Government and Police for every petty matters ! Whatever Police did was right. No FIR, no custody and no political interference, straightway encounter. I feel this is the best way to deal with. Jai Mumbai Police & Jai Maharashtra ! Vijay, Udupi

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  • Julian D'Mello, mangalore,India

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    These things happens when their is no justice from government.

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  • mukund, chandigarh

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Dirty politics of these local leader is spoiling the integrity and unity of our country,RAJ should have caught alive ,but police deliberately gunned him down...why don't the maharashtra police opened fire when MNS workers were beating the north indians.This shows that maharashtra govt is equally responsible for all these happening as much as MNS

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  • Prakash, India/Dubai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    It is very sad a young youth has been killed and another injured for no reason. If the youth really wanted to terrorise the people in the bus,good he was killed.If he wanted to convey the massage and was no harm to the passangers,than there were ways to negotiate and confiscate the weapon and arrest him,and know the truth what made him to take such this extreme steps,thats what is called effective policing.

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  • Lawrence, Mangalore / Dubai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    I agree with noel, and it’s very shameful to Mumbai police that they gunned down a person who could have been caught by them. The investigation on living person would have given more value than now. Think the man is a terrorist, but he had released every person from his abduction, police are there to protect each & every citizen & they have been paid by citizens for their good job.

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  • Ganesh, Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Coward Mumbai Police!!! Prooving this yung brave guy to be "terrorist". they shot him down with a pride saying whoever try to break laws & create violent act in public..they will treat him like this.  what the hell they were doing when common & innocent people were getting beaten by this MNS guys ! MNS are itself a terror & coz of them u`ll see normal guy like rahul raj & many others will raise thier voice against them. Please also shoot raj thackeray!!! to stop more crime. I am ashamed of being a Mumbaikar when people like raj thackrey has ruined this city.

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  • K.Raghava Mayya, Padil, M'lore

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    The partisan attitude of men in Government resulted in the present day happenings. As an example, for recruitment in Railways of Karnataka zone they publicised advt. in Bihar only and the advt. appearing in Rozgar did not reach all the intended candidates. Men in Karnataka had to agitate against the examination in which candidates were all Biharis. Thus the troubles were invented by men in Government.

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  • Prince, Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Job opportunities and development is required in every state. recruitment exams must be conducted in small cities. People from big cities must travel to small cities to attend the exams or tests. Here we can blame the concerned authorities not Raj Thackrey. Mumbai is more developed than other cities. Why govt offers more revenue to Mumbai only ? Pay attention to other cities. Feed the hungry people.

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  • Sanjeev, Hyderabad

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    These 'crazy creatures' are not you should be afraid of.They are an inevitable outcome of hate politics that is practiced by thackerays and their ilk.GOD save our country from such hate mongers

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  • Prashant, Pune

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    I perfectly agree with you. What ever is happening is very bad and as today people see a particular religion as terrorists the day will not be far when people from Maharashtra and Bihar will also join this....god save this country. Politicians, Police and Law is incapable of handling these issues i believe. By the way mistake is ours who elected such coward politicians, what to say about police they are again controlled by politicians.

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  • SK Nagesh, Jabalpur

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    "O" God ! What is this all happening ?

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  • Nitin, delhi/uk

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    "Police cordoned off the bus and asked him to surrender" I can't comment on the youth and his intentions, but the only thing i found hard to believe is, why was he shot "dead". As the news say, the bus and the surrounding area was secured, they could have captured him, or him his arms or legs. wahy was he KILLED? why was he shot on the head/chest?? this was not supposed to be an encounter!! Again, we are not aware of the exact situation, but i believe his death could have been avoided.

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  • Prankur, Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    This incident is very sad. This is only going to create some more unrest in the country. At this point of time I can only request our media people not to present it as a "breaking story", because that will surely implant some more seeds of hatred among the brothers of this nation.

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  • John Pereira , Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    Hats off to Rahul Raj he is a he man Shame to Raj T.

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  • kumar, bangalore

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    This is really absurd and a common man is becoming victim of circumstances and political game plans. Am sure every party is behind Mr Raj Thackrey and all he is doing is to fool people and create an vote bank, and I really wonder what the hell govt is doing to prevent him from speaking and doing such acts, he doesnt seems to care about even the court.

    The followers of his party, these are for sure useless youth just spending time with the political leaders just to make some quick bucks and influence which they used to get petty things done at govt offices and nothing else...if they are really educated no one need to support them for their employment..there are many oppurtunites..and on the other part, its a lesson for ministers like Lalu who use their political power just grab more votes by providing opportunities to his statee people and not caring about the rest of India...

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  • Francis, Mangalore, Dubai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    I totally agree with Noel Frank.What Raj is doing in Maharastra is done by BJP in Karnataka through its BJD wing.All BJD supporters please visualise the scinario after few months or years if you continue your policy of hatred.

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  • Aditya.P, Bhopal

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    What you reap is what you sow! Hate is what i see everywhere.. Whatsoever be the case police should not have killed him as he was not a terrorist, but he sure have had created enough terror in the mind of Raj.

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  • Mascarenhas, Goa - Borivali -Mumbai

    Tue, Oct 28 2008

    "There is difference between recklessness and courage" It was a foolhard step taken by this innocent and harmless teenager from Bihar. He has put his own fly. and close to him in utter grief and sorrow. If his leaders like Lallu Prasad, Amar singh, Mulayam Singh and likes are shit scared now to come to Mumbai n challenger Raj Thackerey what this young, energetic but emotional filled lad cud hv done to Raj Thackerey. Young life lost in vain.

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  • M.Bhat, Mumbai

    Mon, Oct 27 2008

    Whats happening in Mumbai. One of my christian collegue was travelling by the same bus saw the encounter and ran for the life from the spot. She was shuddering with fear till reached the office. GOD save ordinary people from these Crazy creatures.

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  • Noel Frank, Mangalore/KSA

    Mon, Oct 27 2008

    The Central and the State Govts should bear the full responsibility for this. The Maharastra police, better not to comment on them. They have lost their credibility. The Governaments and the courts have done nothing when Raj has been instigating and spreading hatred among the Indians and the states in front of their very eyes.

    If what the papers have reported is true, I salute this brave lad, he was not a coward to plant bombs, nor did he take anyone's life, but his own, he identified himself and his purpose and gave Raj a clear message which even the police and Govts were scared to give.

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