Mangalore: Court of Inquiry - 'Co-pilot Asked Captain to Turn Around Ill-fated Flight'


Mangalore: Court of Inquiry - 'Co-pilot Asked Captain to Turn Around Ill-fated Flight'

Daijiworld Media Network—Mangalore (CN)

Mangalore, Aug 19: The proceedings on the second day of the public hearing at the Court of Inquiry (COI), instituted by the civil aviation ministry following the Air India Express air crash, on Wednesday August 18, saw the transcripts of the cockpit conversation being presented.

It came to light that the co-pilot had probably asked the captain to ‘go around’ at 06:04:38 am on that fateful day. This was followed by the co-pilot’s voice again saying ‘control’ in a  panicky voice at 06:05:21 am, which was the last communication received from the cockpit on the morning of Saturday May 22.

The COI into the Air India Express crash incident had directed the Mangalore airport to conduct an obstacles survey immediately.

The court headed by Air Marshal (retired) B N Gokale took up the issue of various obstacles to air-traffic around Mangalore air port and directed the airport authorities to conduct the survey immediately.

Thomas K Thomas, senior ATC at the airport, who was in-charge on the day of the air crash, was asked about the matter of obstacles by the assessors consisting of Babu Peter, Capt Ron Nagar, Group Captain Deepak Gaur, Gurucharan Batura, and S S Nath.

They questioned Thomas asked about the recent incident wherein a peacock hit the wheels of an aircraft.

“The airport has deployed four persons to chase the birds and provided a sound gun to them”, said Thomas. He added that a water tank belonging to the local gram panchayat and some trees are hurdles to the air traffic around the airport.
“We have requested the local panchayat to paint the tank”, he said.

The court directed the airport to conduct the survey without any delay when airport director M R Vasudeva clarified that the survey is being conducted every five years. He added that the latest survey was in 2006 and is valid till 2011. 
The court directed that there was no need to wait till the completion of five years, and since it was nearing the end of its validity, the survey should be conducted.

No Alcohol Content

Dr K R Nagesh, associate professor, forensic department, Fr Muller Hospital, said that there was no alcohol intoxication or reaction found during the autopsy of the pilot Captain Z Glusica. He opined that the death of the pilot was due to injury to the forehead and multiple injuries on the body.  Dr Nagesh added that the body was identified through some photographs in his burnt uniform and foreign currency.

Basanth Pandey and Vishal Sharma from Gateway Hotel who served the pilot in his room said that there was nothing unusual found there. Pandey said that he had not served him alcohol and Sharma said that after the incident, when they checked his room, no alcohol was found.

S G Amin, group captain with Air India, said that in Glusica’s room there was a baggage, laptop and some medicine. “We had contacted our office in Frankfurt to contact the pilot’s family to get details about the medicines”, he added.   
Time Inconsistency

Regional fire officer Basavanna, said that the time mentioned by him was confused the air traffic control (ATC) staff at the airport.
He said that they had received a call from the airport at 6.15 am about the crash. But the ATC staff said that they had received a reply from the fire department at 6.11 am saying their fire tenders were headed towards the crash site. One of the participants in the court asked about the procedure of time-check at the fire department to which he received a negative answer.
Surviors Abdulla Puttur Ismail, Pradeep G K, and Umer Farooq also gave their statements before the court.  The COI will register 50 witnesses in three days and 39 witnesses have been registered in two days.

Transcript of Cockpit Conversation:

This is the conversation between Air India flight IX 812 and Mangalore Tower at the airport before the crash.

Time- (to- from) - text

05:54:51-IX 812 to Mangalore Tower-  Good morning
05:54: 59- Mangalore Tower to IX812-  Good morning, report established 10 DME arc runway 24
05:55:00- IX 812 to Mangalore Tower--  Call you established 12 DME Arc runway 24
05:55:04- MT to IX 812-  10DME arc
05:55:08-  IX 812 to Mangalore Tower-10DME arc
05:57:44-  Established on 10DME arc Runway 24
05: 57:52--IX 812 to Mangalore Tower- Report established on ILS
06:04:15 Mangalore Tower to IX812------Confirm established
06: 04:17 IX 812 to Mangalore Tower-----Affirmative
06:04:19 Mangalore Tower to IX812-----Wind calm, runway 24, clear to land
06:04:22 --IX 812 to Mangalore Tower-Clear to land
06:04:38( IX 812) - ------Go around captain (Probably from cockpit)
06:05:04--Mangalore Tower to IX812 ------Back track runway 24, vacate via Delta
06:05:21(IX812)  Control (Panicky voice from cockpit)
06:09:29 Mangalore tower to IX812-----Express India 812, Mangalore control correction Express India Mangalore Tower
06:09:39 Mangalore tower to IX812---- Express India 812, Mangalore Tower
Though the crash of Air India Express IX 812 was reported as having occurred at 06.02 am, the conversation between Mangalore Airport tower and from cockpit of IX812 reveals that co-pilot of the aircraft suggested the captain to ‘go around’  at 06:04:33 am (IST). The voice is believed to be of the co-pilot, suggesting that the pilot go around despite landing.

The captain contacted Mangalore Tower at 05:54: 51 and the conversation was on till 06:09:39 after which there was no reply from the aircraft.

Flight IX 812 had contacted Mangalore Control at 05:32:48 am and had a conversation till 05:54:47 am, and later came under Mangalore Tower.

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  • zx, Udupi

    Sat, Aug 21 2010

    There is no point in showing finger on pilot or co-pilot . Mistake happens from all people in this earth.It was destiny what has to happen should happen no one can stop.Today all want money not love affection....which they got from their beloved one nw all members of the deceased start fighting for money. Money will not rule the world.As per information i got from victims fly AI has nt done injustice to them.Who really love their beloved one will nt go behind money. My dear ones r victim of air crash

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  • Felix F.,, Indai/Ksa

    Sat, Aug 21 2010

    HENRY MISQUITH, M'LORE\BAHRAIN
    Good thinking. It makes sense, the capatain at the final moments may have been incapacitated and the co, just could not take charge.

    That is called a accident (Act of Nature) and not human error.

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  • Hemanth, India

    Sat, Aug 21 2010

    Alex, Kuwait...one should not comment if you don't have facts & figures. There is a saying, don't throw stone in the dark.

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  • Jerome, Mangalore

    Sat, Aug 21 2010

    Less comments are seen on pilot as the pilot was a white man.If it would have an Indian, people would have just kept commenting on him.

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  • Rajesh, Dubai

    Fri, Aug 20 2010

    Wether it is the pilot fault or the runway fault, the airport authorities should extend the runway after all its an international airport now.To avoid such tragic accidents in the future, let us learn from this mistake. I believe the cost of extending the runway is not much compared to the cost of loosing the dear ones, in some cases full families.WAKE UP AIRPORT AUTHORITIES....

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  • Philip D'Souza, Kumata

    Fri, Aug 20 2010

    We all human beings and do not praise co-pliot because he is an Indian. The fate was stored in their destiny and it occured. We Indians always thing we are the best in the world, but in reality not. Co-pilot was not an Alighty God. Whole world's people work in each other countries only for the purpose of liveliwood! We Indians are going to learn techonology in Europe and Western countries, etc., as of know the techonology that we Indians are using is from Europe, Western and from other parts of the world and in particular from UK because UK ruled for many years in India, that is why some part of Indians are purely civilized.

    Philip

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  • Sujith Nayak, Mangalore/Abu Dhabi

    Fri, Aug 20 2010

    And the westener is repected again..what the hell is this????

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  • Prakash Costa, Dubai / Mabukala

    Fri, Aug 20 2010

    Agreed the IX812 was on the ILL-FATED list and it has been a debated topic - till date. Thinking logically, Accidents happen on a regular basis(air,land & water). Yet'Does this stop an individual from opting for the desired means of transport?'. We humans are of different callibre and opinions cannot change history, but we can think positively and make things better for all mankind - the present and the future.

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  • ganesh narayana, katipalla/dubai

    Fri, Aug 20 2010

    i have little confusion with hotel servent statement .plane left from dubai,to mangalore not from mangalore to dubai..then there is no question of serving anything from gate way servents...

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  • Alex, Kuwait

    Thu, Aug 19 2010

    Human errors do occur. No one is perfect. Human errors have possibility all the time. But in Mangalore airport there can be no human errors could occur as it would most likely result in disaster. If there was 300 metres spill over runway area at end of runway there was a chance to get the aircraft to a halt in that. But in Mangalore after 80 metres spill over run, it ends in steep ditch. Hence table top runways should be made to have atleast 300 metres spillover run with speed arresters in that, whether it is Mangalore, Calicut or Leh. Preventions are always better than cure.

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  • Vipin, Perne

    Thu, Aug 19 2010

    Is this official report? Will AI take accountability? or will they fabricate a new report...for sure pilot error...what was control tower doing were they watching the show or just figuring out whats happenning next? This is a split second decision..ABORT... is the word..I remember when the runway and ground lights when off in the night when there was a power cut. AIE is a very shaky flight especially on landings! Still dont know the right answer. But I have posted the question.

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, M'LORE\BAHRAIN

    Thu, Aug 19 2010

    IT SEEMS LIKE CAPTAIN FAINTED JUST BEFORE REACHING THE RUNWAY. CO-PILOT FAILED TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND AFRAID TO TAKE CONTROL OF FLIGHT IN THIS CRITICAL MOMENT.

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  • Grationdsouza, Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 19 2010

    Edward, again repeats about the table top airport, since the clear indication of pilot's error in this incident. The aircraft overshooted the runway and lost control, the co pilot clearly tells the pilot " contrl" during the final seconds of landing process. This shows that the senior pilot ignoring the suggetion of the co-pilot, lands the aircraft leads to a dissaster, if he obeys the co pilots instruction the ill fated aircraft and passengers life would have been saved. There is no significance in blaming the airport or runway, this shows clear human error.

    I dont know why? senior pilot did not obey the instructions of the junior pilot even if his action was not corrct. We feel doubt looking at them (Pilots ), look at their body language it clearly shows they are ultimate, and superiors to every one. This type of attitude makes them not to adjust with eachother too. provide them a good training, whre they can change their attitude and behaviour and refresh their heart and mind.

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  • Frederick Pinto, Shirva

    Thu, Aug 19 2010

    During takeoff or landing captain(pilot) of the aircraft are fully responsible for the safe and correctness of the aircraft, passengers and cabin crew. At the same time captain and co pilot always share flying and other duties till safe landing. Aircraft takeoff and landing are the most difficult part of the flight and require close co-ordinating between pilot and co pilot. Boeings statistical summary of worldwide commercial jet airplanes accidents shows that seventy percent of the accidents are human error.

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  • OSWALD VAZ, THOTTAM/BAHRAIN

    Thu, Aug 19 2010

    Don't Blame the AirPort. Table Top Airport good for Landing. There is a saying that those who can't dance blaming the Floor. Human error is the cause. If Table Top is the problem no airlines will take the risk to Land.no need to drag the issue to fool public.We are not STUPID OK.

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  • EDWARD, MANGALORE

    Wed, Aug 18 2010

     EVERYBODY KNOWS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT AFTER 1-2 DAYS OF ILL FATED FLIGHT CRASH THAT CO-PILOT LATE AHLUWALIA ASKED LATE COMMANDER Glusica TO TAKE THIS FLIGHT TURN AROUND & TRY TO LAND AGAIN. THIS WISE ADVISE WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED ALL PEOPLES INNOCENT LIVES. HERE AGAIN ALL FLIGHTS CAPTAINS (REGARDLESS OF DOMESTIC & INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS) SHOULD FOLLOW DGCA GUIDELNES AS WELL AS FOLLOW CORRECT PROCEEDURE WHILE LANDING. OVER-CONFIDENCE COULD RESULT SEVERE DAMAGE/CRASH.

    SINCE MANAGALORE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IS ONE OF TABLE-TOP AIRPORT, HERE WE ALL SUGGEST THAT EVERY LANDING/TAKE-OFF FLIGHTS MUST HAVE VERY EXPERIENCED PILOTS & CO-PILOTS LIKE LATE AHLUWALIA, HE WAS ONE OF VERY EXPERIENCED PILOT FROM JET-AIRWAYS. LET US ALL LEARN VALUABLE LESSON FROM MISTAKES & HAVE A SAFE JOURNEY & LANDING.

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  • Lawrence D'Souza, Kalmady

    Wed, Aug 18 2010

    This particular aircrash points a finger at human error

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