Beltangady: MLA lending shoulder to temple palanquin - Youth seek forgiveness


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Beltangady, Nov 25: The fact that local MLA Harish Poonja lent his shoulder when the palanquin carrying the Utsava Murthy of Lord Venkataramana temple, Layila was going in a procession, has given rise to dispute as some believe that it was a violation of laid out customs and traditions. The young men who invited the legislator to carry the palanquin have paid a token penalty at the temple and sought forgiveness for the mistake they committed inadvertently.

There had been objections about the fact that the MLA was allowed to bear the palanquin and also the managing committee of the temple. The committee therefore called for an emergency meeting and then approached the Swamiji of Kashi Math, Sri Samyamendra Theertha, along with the young men who were at the centre of the controversy, and sought his advice in the matter. The Swamiji advised them to offer coconut and money in token of penalty for the wrong committed the Lord's presence, and seek an apology for the mistake. On Wednesday, the two young men involved with the incident complied with these conditions, it is learnt.

On the day of the festival of lights (Deepotsava) organized annually as per customs on the full moon day of Katika month as per Hindu calendar, the Lord's idol was taken in a procession through the streets of the town at night. When the procession was on its way, Beltangady MLA Harish Poonja who was on his way home, got down from his car and accepted the Prasadam. Some youngsters suggested to him to shoulder the palanquin for a short distance to earn the grace of the Lord, which he did.

There were objections among some members of a community who questioned whether people other than those belonging to the GSB community are allowed to carry the palanquin. In social websites, some have questioned whether Hindus other than GSBs are not allowed to carry the palanquin of the Lord. There are also people who have wondered whether the youth were asked to seek an apology for allowing a non-Brahmin to carry the palanquin. It has to be seen whether the dispute will continue to be the subject for prolonged discussions or whether it will die down as the matter appears to have been closed as far as the temple management is concerned.

 

 

 

  

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  • Uttam, Bengaluru/Bangalore

    Wed, Dec 01 2021

    Just the way St Aloysious college road renaming issue was used by Vedavyas Kamath to win over bunt votes from congress this pallaki issue may be used to win back the bunt votes for congress in next mla elections.

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  • Raman, Mangalore

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    FOR KANIKA DABBA - HUNDI - receiving money - donations - there is no caste -- religion - dirt - impure etc etc -- MAN_ WOMAN - HIJIRA - ETC Cash is KING - moral of the story - money opens mouth even of dead body -- loose translation --

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  • Preetham, Farangipet

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    We all have heard of the legend of Kanakadasa who was denied entry to Udupi temple on low caste basis, but he camped outside the temple and continued his devotion to Lord Krishna chanting keertananas for weeks and the deity pleased with his devotion, turned to face west. Things don't seem to have changed much since Kanakadasa's time, ie, 5th century!

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  • Preetham, Farangipet

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    *16th century (1509 - 1609 to be exact).

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  • prem, moodbidri

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    If Respected MLA is treated like this, just assume plight of backward & poor section of the society !!!

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  • Shivraj, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    It is like divine rights of medieval times kings ... Important is humbleness As mentioned ..scripture etc .. all religions .. Bhakthi Purity in thought and action. .... If one does sevas But without consciousness Not sincere Corruption Lecherous etc etc ..what is the use .. condemnable..merely having ritual bath etc not enough... We can consider Then a hardworking farmer Looking after his family as better and superior..

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  • H. Siddhanti, Udupi/Washington DC

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    At least now, will the shudras wake up?

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  • Moshu, Mangaluru

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Post mortem of the slogan ' Hindu Navella Vandu'

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  • Roshan, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    MLA might have thought "NAVELLA HINDU NAVELLA BANDU" slogan of Hindutva group as true.

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  • Manohar, Udupi

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    GSB is from original vedic Saraswat River from Southern Afghanistan. Then they migrated east to border of Rajasthan and Punjab Renaming a river as Saraswati, which is dry now. Most of the major north Indian rivers are named by them.. Then they went to Goud in Bengal and most of them migrated to Goa. Most of the Catholics and Muslims from Bhatkal and Mysore are from GSB community originated in southern Afghanistan.....

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  • Bobby, Mangalore

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    Correct. It is mentioned well in the book "Konkanastha Brahmins" by Kudva. He has also mentioned that GSBs are vegetarians and avoid even garlic and onion , this is followed in most religious functions even today,as food habbits are similar to many in Gujarat, And before Goa , GSBs were at Bet Dwarka before it got submerged, many people ask "Tu Dorko" for "are you GSB". Now things have changed and many GSBs eat non- vegetarian at home and outside, many priests also smoke, so much so for customs and traditions. Mr KvKamath , Mangalore, you are talking about preserving customs and traditions,are you still abstaining from non- veg, fish, smoking and alcohol.

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    Mr KvKamath , Mangalore, you are talking about preserving customs and traditions,are you still abstaining from non- veg, fish, smoking and alcohol. @ Bobby, Sorry, Forget non-veg,smoking and alcohol, You can't even find Onions, Asafoetida, boiled rice etc. even in my home. I eat food cooked from raw rice only. Even my breakfast is only after bath and all the anushtanams. If there is eclipse, I don't even sip water. Strictly glued to customs. If a death happens at home, all food only after cremation, bath etc.etc.

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  • JWalter, Mangalore/KSA

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Shudras are not allowed touch God directly !!! They are untouchable !!!! Only high class cast's are very close to God and they can also direct God as they want, as they wish !!!! What he (God) wants and what not !!!!!! Who can touch him and who cannot !!!!!! Who he can Bless and who not to bless !!! It looks like lower class hindu's are in more danger from High class Hindu's than from other relegions !!!

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    JWalter, Mangalore/KSA No sir. Other religions are in danger.That is why they convert other religion people to their religion. There is no invitation for a person to join Hinduism. But other religions give money, terrorise people, mass convert them etc. If their religion was superior, is an advertisement required to pull people to their side. Traps laid for hindus, encash their personal weakness and convert them.

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  • Vinod T, Valencia,Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Dear KV Kamath, thanks for your comments, i do respect your culture and tradition. Here sanctity is one thing and you must have kept for a long time with your own tradition, but we are living in 21st century ! If one other Hindu personal carries Palanquin with the great respect to you and your Venkatramana Swamy's belief, then there is not need to make big noise. Your own Amchigele Samaj people went and settled in different parts of the world and adopted western culture, married to westerner's, and settled there with the new countries system and culture, then what is the outcome ? what is your comments on that ?

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    @Vinod T, Valencia,Mangalore As said earlier by another person here, The person who has done interfaith marriage is not engaged/involved/clubbed in my space.

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    @ Vinod T, Valencia,Mangalore Even If in case I become so rich and I build a big palace,I keep doors and windows of my home open on north /south side, Sun is sure to rise in East only,though it is 21st Century. Here no noise was made. Youths and Mr. Poonja did penitence for their and their own progeny's goodness. We welcome it. We will cast our ballots for him in future too. But in Spiritual sphere, we wish to stick to the manuals only.

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  • Manohar, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    No bakwaas poems and shayarees today?

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  • Preetham, Farangipet

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    ಇಲಿಯಾ must be busy with his usual useless research on ಹುಲಿಯಾ.

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  • Kiran, USA

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    The Indian system of Varna and Jaati were never hierarchical or discriminatory. Varna is purely a model of societal functional role, while jaati is professional communities, who help each other professionally, monetarily and anything else, especially in times of need. Caste is a word of Portuguese/Spanish origin, which has hierarchical and feudal class system inherrent in it. It was imported and imposed during colonial times, fused into the Indian society forcibly and made rigid for political and administrative purposes. Missionaries use it as a stick or stigma stuck on India, as though it is an Indian system, for purposes of conversion. Political parties in India, use it to divide and rule, just as the colonists had done before. Caste has nothing to do with the original Sanatana Dharma or Hinduism. The VarNa vyavastha is not a division of the society into professors, but merely a model for understanding the roles/duties/responsibilities and preferences (karma and guNa) in every society. It is not based on birth. You can find references to VarNa in the Shastras. Jaati is birth based, we will not find references in the Shruti (Vedas), but you may find references elsewhere. However, it is not the same as caste which is of Spanish and Portuguese origin. Caste is a corruption of the concept of jaati. Jaati is never hierarchical as the western scholars would like us to believe and never discriminatory. It is a set up of communities of people belonging to similar professions to help each other out and to grow the professions for the good of the society. It is a non-competitive, cooperative arrangement. Conversions in India did not work because of strong bond with the jaati. Hinduism survived to a large extent due to the strong bonds within each jaati and community helping each other with loans and physical help when the other person in the same community had problems. People who converted missed that and it discouraged others from converting, although others are trying to copy the strong community helping each other concept.

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  • Manohar, Udupi

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    I don't blame you, even if you go to Mars from USA it's pity mindset doesn't change. History and blame game doesn't match the reality at hand. Avoid GODI media. Analyze why are you in USA rather serving motherland? You will find answers.

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  • Ajay Rebello, Kallianpur

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Is the MLA so brainless that he doesn't know the religious customs of his constituents.

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  • Ranjan, Bangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Million mutinies in India Naipaul A travelogue One can understand various divisions Caste system Brahmin hierarchy etc Root of all problems Needless polarised politics Hindu Muslim But there are deep embedded other issues Finally Brahmin Bania nexus ..

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  • Prashanth, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    What is wrong in this deed of public representative? Cast system already vanished, then why some community thinking they are supreme?? Why this community leaders, pundits and scholars allowed seeking of forgiveness from youths? For what mistakes?

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    @ Prashanth, Mangalore Don't the Government demand caste certificate still? Ask a Tahsildar whether it is there or not? Pious deeds are supreme. God weighs it. Not you, me or someone. community leaders, pundits and scholars allowed seeking of forgiveness from youths as penitence for their own well being. No hidden agenda there. Go through Spiritual Manuals.Honour of Smrithis upheld.

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  • Subramany, USA

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    The devotees of Vishnu should be acknowledged for their bhakthi alone not for their caste creed or native Bhagvad puranam

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  • krishna shenoy, mumbai/ moodbidri

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    It is the golden opportunity to ask gsb MLA From twin district who he says about this and being a GSB it is the the right to give shoulders to palanquin .

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  • pili, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    hindu katre me hai? ruled by GSB? whos on top?

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  • aithappa moolya, manglaore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    GSB community in hindus is worse than the Brahmins when it comes to customs and their tradition...they dont allow any other hindu caste to enter their temples...it is quite evident during the vodther in kodial...likewise other hindus also dont like them..they are called as kokke..

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    @aithappa moolya, Customs and traditions cannot be thrown in wind and that is the reason to bar others .But I equally respect anyone including MLA Poonja on other issues.

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    What about Devadasi, Sati, Narbali and other such traditions?

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Fri, Nov 26 2021

    Rudolf Rodrigues, Mumbai Those customs are not in GSB.

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  • Dinesh, Dubai

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Who will protect Hindu religion from the evil of Cast and Race system?? Why the protectors of religion and the people who speak about anti conversion not talking about it? Hindu religion is in danger by Hindus...???? Why fractions in Hindu ? Why brahmins superior and dalits inferior ? Upper caste Hindus are trying to keep lower cast in their slavery ? blind bkakts do you have answer...???

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    @ Dinesh, Hindu religion is like University. University offer courses like Arts, Science, Commerce, Engineering etc. Don't you keep quiet if you were not able to pursue Engineering ? There is nothing like Slavery,Inferior and Superior. How many slaves did you find in GSB Denominations? GSB's never visit any temples when they are impure.Purity is not achieved by mere bath. A person is impure when he is in mourning period. He is pure only after finishing the related rituals prescribed in the spiritual texts. Don't scribble as per your wish. Had you ever fought with Technical Education Department without passing exams prescribed by them. Though a person has won Rank, he has to still qualify in the Entrance Exam . A person scoring in Entrance Exam alone cannot enter courses in Technical Education Without a pass in Board Exams. Each and Every details needs to be looked into before entering Temples unlike a Mosque or Church.

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  • Bobby, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    This happened on the road, not inside a temple, so entrance test not required....

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    @Bobby, Mangalore You,me and other laymen cannot change the customs and rituals that has been practiced since ages.

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  • Varun, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Mr kamath, even non gsb hindus are not comfortable to visit gsb managed temples.. so much alienation your community has done over centuries.

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  • SM, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Can you elaborate on whats makes you uncomfortable from visiting temples of GSB?

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  • SM, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Also, you were talking from centuries, how many centuries you know us, and about our temples and our community.

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  • Rakesh Dsouza, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 1:9)

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  • Bobby, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    When Vinayak Baliga was murdered were rules not broken....

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  • Amith, udupi

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    And we take a knee to support against racism ..when we have such rules in india ..soch badlo ..desh badlega

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  • SAN, Mangaluru

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Majority of the so called Brahmins do all types of illegal activities and act pure in temple/in front of their guru😄.

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    What illegal activity did you find? We want more proofs.

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  • Varun, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    No wonder some prefer to leave their religion.. caste superiority will make sure of it

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  • Mangalorean, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Politicians go to any extent for the sake of …… no, let me stop here.

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  • Anand, Surathkal

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    What is wrong in the MLA carrying the palanquin of God. God do not discriminate anybody by cast or religion. It is the devotion of a person which brings him towards God. In what way Poonja and GSB are different ?

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  • KvKamath, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    @ Anand, Surathkal It is not an individual's asset to give it to anyone like this. So the people who shared palanquin prayed for forgiveness. True God does not discriminate anybody by caste or religion. In Mahabharatha, each one from all the four varnas together kill a person. Case comes for hearing in the Court of Hasthinapura. Duryodhana orders to kill all the four wrong doers. Yudhistra changes the order and gives the order as follows. All the four get a common punishment along with a month of Imprisonment for Shudra because there is no access for him on spiritual field, 6 months Imprisonment for Vaishya because he was seduced to money,one year Imprisonment for Kshatriya for misusing his might and the Brahmana gets 4 years because he has access to all the knowledge. Hinduism prescribes 4 times more punishment in Lord's space for a Brahmana. That is why a Brahmin must be very fearful, careful,analyse all the matters in depth before taking a step .

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  • Lambert, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Upper castes are predominant in UP. Hope they get enlightened or maybe will come up with id card coastwise.

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  • sri_elder, Karkala

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    In Hindus, there is no single temple for all Hindu castes and sub castes. We have community or caste based temples everywhere. Probably upcoming Ram temple in ayodhya becomes temple for every Hindus. Jai sri ram..

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  • Akil, Udupi/Bengaluru

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    I am sure the British Rule tried their best to eliminate the Cast System, Untouchability, Blind Beliefs, etc through the Uniform Education System to All. These century old blind beliefs can never unite people but just divide them!!! Sadly, even today instead of progressing forward with scientific temper, we are going back to the the same century old traditions/customs!!! Belief or Trust in God or Super Natural Power is good, but Blind Belief in the name of God is not at all acceptable!!!

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  • David Pais, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    ಪೂಂಜೆ ಇತ್ತ್ಂಡ ಪೆರಡೆಲಾ ಇಪ್ಪೊಡ್. ಇಜ್ಜ್ಯಾಂಡ ಮಾಫಿ ಕೇನ್ತ್ ಫೈನ್ ಕೊರೊಡ್.

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  • Sachin Shetty, mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Venkatramana temple is like personal property for GSB's

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  • SM, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    It's a partly yes and you better understand it's a community temple. No one is restricted to offer sevas to the lord and take prasadam , be it GSB or non-GSB., it's you who have built such mindset and resistance. I cannot explain to you each and everything about communities, because all sanghas like bantara sangha, billavara sangha etc, bhavans and all trusts, in that case, would come under questioning. In that case, you will have to question many things and with your assumptions of answers, you will be a fool. GSB's didn't do any harm or in the way of any other communities and are as sensible as they can be. Let's live with harmony and brotherhood. Simply commenting on whatever comes to your brain without thinking twice doesn't make you a gentleman. Matter of the news is concerned, there are certain rules and rituals to be followed as it is a temple, and the same thing is been done. In the end, we are all united when it comes to dharma.

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  • SachiN, MangalorE

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Still cast system is there in Digital India?

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  • vishwadeepak, mangalore/dxb

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    jana marulo jatre marulo!!?

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  • Sense_Shetty, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Is god property of brahmins alone? . can gods purity be impurified by a so called impure person .If yes why is god so vulnerable ? If there was an election around this would have been great act by the MLA ... Now since there are no elections .. The so called Shudhras will remain shudras ..And the so called Brahmins will remain as brahmins . There is something neurotic about the whole thing and the human race itself.We divide ourselves as this or that .. some kind of false perception spread across all humans as nations ,religions ,race etc .. We fail to see collective failure of mankind itself.

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  • Alwyn Sudhakar, Mangalore

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    You are right Sir

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  • vishwadeepak, mangalore/dxb

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    korle kai...

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  • Kumar, Al Khor, Qatar

    Thu, Nov 25 2021

    Sense_Shetty, Mangalore.. The news says, only GSB can take part. Other brahmins also can not take part. Means this is not the case of Brahmins versus Shudras..

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