Bangalore: Can Corruption be Eliminated? No, Not by 'Inhuman Beings'!


Bangalore: Can Corruption be Eliminated? No, Not by 'Inhuman Beings'!

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Daijiworld Media Network - Bangalore

Bangalore, Aug 31: Can corruption be eliminated? Well, not exactly as many people were born as ''inhuman beings" who thrive on corruption and looting public funds unmindful of the miseries and sufferings it causes to the people, especially the poorer sections.

Implementation of several anti-poverty and welfare schemes being implemented by the Central and State Governments was very poor and the benefits did not reach the targeted beneficiaries, said Justice N Santhosh Hegde, the former Karnataka Lokayukta, lamenting that huge funds were siphoned off by persons who simply cannot be termed as ''human beings."

Justice Hegde, who was addressing the 9th V K R V Rao Memorial Lecture function at the Institute for Social and Economic Change (ISEC), said it was a tragedy that scams after scams involving huge sums of precious resources were draining the country.

In sharp contrast to the past, when scams and corruption scandals involving a few lakhs of rupees were considered a blot on the country and persons holding public offices were forced to quit, Justice Hegde said the present situation had come to such a sorry pass that thousands of crores of rupees and even lakhs of crores of rupees do not cause any political upheavals.

The 2G scam, Commonwealth Games and Coalgate scandals at the Centre are some of the most recent examples, the former Karnataka Lokayukta said and pointed out that the Jan Lokpal Bill demanded by the anti-corruption movement led by Anna Hajare was unlikely to make much of a big difference in rooting out the menace of corruption even if passed by parliament as long as ''inhuman beings" were at the helm of affairs.

Though the Jan Lokpal Bill might help in curbing corruption to some extent, Justice Hegde said it cannot be a super bureaucratic structure that can eradicate corruption altogether. The independent institution will surely help in putting breaks on corrupt elements, he said.

“All of us are not born as human beings. There are many inhuman beings in the society and therefore the corruption continues to exist at all levels," he said.

The level of corruption was rampant at all public institutions, Justice Hegde said and wryly remarked that many patients who went to the hospitals in vertical position  had to be brought out horizontally. ''It is really a tragic and unfortunate situation and sad commentary on the state of affairs," he added.

Professor of Graduate school, Department of Economic, University of California, Berkeley, Prof Pranab Bardhan said corruption has increased in India in the post-reform period due to increased value of public resources such as land and minerals in the market and mounting election expenses.

Delivering the V K R V Rao Memorial Lecture, Prof Bardhan said the level of corruption has increased in the post-reform era in India due to sharp increase in the prices of public resources such as coal and other minerals in the market due to higher economic growth.

Speaking on “Corruption: When Preaching Piety is not Enough," Prof Bardhan, author of about two dozen of books, said corruption occurred due to under-pricing and diversion of public goods such as foodgrains, diesel, kerosene and LPG meant for domestic purposes.

Caste politics, which has dominated the political scene in recent years, he said led to increased corruption and felt that “corruption may increase when everybody believes that most people are corrupt."

Noting loopholes in the proposed Jan Lokpal Bill advocated by the anti-corruption crusader Anna Hazare and other activists, he said “Jan Lokpal will become another super bureaucratic institution."

The country needed independent agencies and the CBI has been used to serve political ends of the ruling party at the Centre, he argued.

C T Kurien, member, Board of Governors, ISEC, presided. R S Deshpande, director, ISEC, welcomed. Infosys Founder NR Narayana Murthy attended the function.

  

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  • Ashok Bhat, Mangalore

    Sun, Sep 02 2012

    Yes,corruption can not be stopped. But the theory is as the efficiency increases the rate of corruption will be coming down. At the initial stage corruption will be eliminated at lower level and it will be there at TOP level. This you can observe in any developed countries.

    One thing that Anna team should not have backed out from the decision they took - Formation of Political Party and contesting elections. Once the decision taken you must see end of this decision. Main problem in this ion of candidate and election expenditure. In this direction I would like to suggest simple solution that you need not any money and right candidate for contesting election. Gram Panchayth / Taluk / District/State / National level committees. The committee must have the capabilities / experience of Hunger Strikes - minimum for 3 to 5 days. Among these members one of can nominate for contesting elections.

    The nominated members has to sit for Anshan at the Gram/Taluk/District/State/Nation head quarters from the date of election d and till the election process over. If the candidate win after contesting election he has to perform One day for Anshan in every week. This should be election Manifesto. According to me this is only way to win elections by Principals and win the heart of people at large. Let us start debate on this ground.

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  • Santhosh, Udupi

    Sun, Sep 02 2012

    Ravi Bhaskar Shenava, MANGALORE
    You have been totally misguided or misunderstood the moral of Mahabharatha, Ramayana and Puranas.

    Its clearly mentioned in the Gita,(infact Krishna explaining to Arjuna) Enemy when they become unbearable & it's become necessary to eradicate them from the society to make the society pure & peacefull for their people to live peacefully they are allowed to adopt any means of solution whether it is killing or bribing which is not at all against to the human's KARMA.
    Same thing even in Ramayana also explained...there Vibhishana he himself comes to Rama b'cos he found Ravana quilty so he convinced Rama that he will help Rama in killing Ravana with no intension of the throne of Kingdome, but Rama made him king of Lanka.

    The same thing even our police department does, they give money to their informers for keep informing them about anti social elements....DO YOU CALL IT A BRIBE???
    Our SC given death sentence to KASAB...since killing is a crime...DO YOU CALL IT A CRIME???

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  • Santhosh, Udupi

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Ravi Bhaskar Shenava, MANGALORE
    You have been totally misguided or misunderstood the moral of Mahabharatha, Ramayana and Puranas.

    Its clearly mentioned in the Gita,(infact Krishna explaining to Arjuna) Enemy when they become unbearable & it's become necessary to eradicate them from the society to make the society pure & peacefull for their people to live peacefully they are allowed to adopt any means of solution whether it is killing or bribing which is not at all against to the human's KARMA.
    Same thing even in Ramayana also explained...there Vibhishana he himself comes to Rama b'cos he found Ravana quilty so he convinced Rama to help him in killing Ravana with no intension of the throne of Kingdome, but Rama made him king of Lanka.

    The same thing even our police department does, they give money to their informers for keep informing them about anti social elements....DO YOU CALL IT A BRIBE???
    Our SC given death sentence to KASAB...since killing is a crime...DO YOU CALL IT A CRIME???

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  • Ravi Bhaskar Shenava, MANGALORE

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    If we read Mahabharatha, Ramayana and Puranas Properly we will find many instances where the God himself tried to bribe Human beings. Example: Krishna tried to bribe Karna for defecting to Pandava side before Kurukshetra War, but failed as Karna was honest to the core. However, Rama was successful in bribing Vibhishana for defecting from Ravana's side and rewarded vibhishana with entire kingdom of Lanka after Ravana's death.
    This proves that the corruption is in the blood of Indians. No dialysis can remove it from our blood stream, unless we have a honest Dictatorship. Justice Santhosh Hegde is a truly presidential material. Only Yaddy's sympathizers hate Hegde for exposing the corruption of Yaddy's gang.

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  • Santhosh, Udupi

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Valerian Dalmaida, Mangalore/Abu Dhabi
    I accept your thoughts, but it'll be effective up to certain extent only...may be till bureaucrats by increasing their salaries provided good fecilities. What about these CORRUPT POLITICIANS which most of them from all the parties wants to swallow in BILIIONS....any solutions???
    At present condition i can't see any solution other than passing a strong LOKPAL BILL in which even PM should aslo come under it. Ofcos in the initial stage practising will be tough but gradually it'll take our country in prosperous way since we all believe in "PRACTISE MAKES A MAN PERFECT".

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  • mark, udyavara

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Anitha writes that "corruption can be eliminated only when Gandiji is reborn...".

    Isn't it enough looting in the name of congress & Gandhism that we are awaiting for another episode?

    As Jossey rightly said, ELIMINATE corrupt politicians.

    To achieve this a greater revolution is needed.

    And please do not nominate Hegde for president ...don't make a rubber stamp out of him. Rather change the constitution to empower presidential rights & electoral process for President and prime minister's post.

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  • Valerian Dalmaida, Mangalore/Abu Dhabi

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Increase the salaries, benefits, allowances and facilities for the people working in police, customs, excise duty, sales tax and income tax departments. Improve their living conditions, recognise and honor them for honesty, pay them good bonus. I am sure, most of them will be strict and apply penalties. People should pay the penalties and not pay them bribes. Discipline is required on both sides.

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  • Valerian Dalmaida, Mangalore/Abu Dhabi

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    It is ten years now. My application for ration card is still pending. It is a different matter that I dont need the ration. But, other government agencies and departments need it. Now, after 10 years they say we have to apply on line. May be if we had greased the palms of babus we could have got it ten years back. Sorry, we did not do that.

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  • Noor Ashfaq, Karkala/Sharjah

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Every humanbeing is born into this world in a pure state but unfortunately after reaching to adolescence, surrounding influences his/her personality. Except for the ones who are honest and determined, rest will succumb to evil desires. We need to promote such people who are God-fearing with a urge for serving the humanity. By this way, project of getting rid of so called Inhumanbeings will attain success.

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  • Vishal, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    corruption can not be eliminated but we can build in some checks and balances in the ruling, governing and implementing machinery and apply brakes to the rampant corruption. At least let us make an attempt and not let it loose.

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  • stan, dubai

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    We are making always surveys i.e. No of people increased/salary increased from 1947-2012. Please make survey of
    how much percentage of corrupt politicians increased since 1947.
    I think there were may be 10% politicians were corrupt in 1948 and now we have about 90% politicians are corrupt

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  • RR, Mangalore

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Many people in Udupi like Dr.Kiran did not utter a single word against the Kar natak team when Late Dr.VS Acharya was at the helm of affairs in the government but thrived on his position in the admn.
    Now after his demise these people have woken up and commenting against Kar natak team where earlier they were integral part of it.

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  • Ramesh, mangalore

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    like i have said earlier its in our Indians blood when we travel abroad its a open secret that we are known to offer money to get our work done in any wy possible a way other than straight , just because we want to go abroad for work, there are so many people here saying things aginst one party the congress , but the expose about coal has been out n the scam was there even during DeveGowda's time n Vajpayee 's time too so its a collective effort we fight supporting one party but this expose says the congreess was hand in glove with BJP to do this scam. so the politicians acrooss party lines are friends n make a fool out of us. Just read in report in Times just now InUK Indian s build illegal rooms n give rent them for a much higher rent to illegal Indian Immigrants. GoOd God at least dont be corrupt when u are abroad but so like i said its in our DNA , n its congenital, children c their parents n so on... so many officilas working for GOVT of India 95% are corrupt are all supporting a particular political party NO they are not then how can we root out the corruption?? is there a way? everything in India is adultrated is there a way???

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  • Uppan.K., Uppinangady/B'lore

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Madam Anitha D Souza
    I don't much about big Hegde and all but I am laughing because people now also confused which Gandhiji?The man with loin cloth
    who gotten us freedom? I also think now that he does not wish to be reborn. Who wants to be reborn now in this situation again and be killed? Tell me please. People only want his Cap now that's all to put Topi on others. Thank you.

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  • Christine, Mangalore

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    I do agree with Justice Hegde that corruption cannot be totally eliminated as long as greedy, inhuman,persons with obsession for material gain, power and prestige are the rulers of India. But certainly we need to keep our hopes high and act to promote persons who value personal honesty, with delicate conscience and compassion for the welfare of others. Why not create awareness. Media is doing a commendable job by exposing corrupt politicians.Let us also support them by writing to the news papers our won experiences of being looted, cheated and lured by the so called 'babus' in Govt. as well as private offices who do not lift a finger to move a file without greasing their hands. We need to blame ourselves often times. Due to our selfishness to get the job done we grease their hands and keep blaming them. There is power in united action. Can we honestly say no to bribe giving and receiving and become trend setters? Off course we will have make sacrifices, pay for our honesty and sincierity. Are we ready??????

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  • Charles D'Mello, Pangala

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Whatever Mr. Santhosh Hegde Speaks is true.He speaks from his heart and and from his past experience. Truely a presidential candidate.

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  • Dr Kiran VSA, Udupi

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Honesty and Sincerity are the casualties of today. Justice Hegde did unmask the corruption in Mining and brought about a change But still Yeddy and gang are free n roamimg. High command has no daring Advani has become silent. its truly Kar Natak.

    Yes Corruption can be kept low but cant be eliminated. Better Salaries and Reasonable Fees are a must to reduce the corruption at lower levels.

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  • SUJITH NAYAK, Kudla / auh

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    Hegdere...president aapuna aase ponda ..nanala unda?

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  • rahul shetty, udupi

    Sat, Sep 01 2012

    i agree with Justice Hegde statement... but to eleminate people like him should be in the system n fight against the people who involve taking bribe in all sector of government jobs on behalf of indian people.. if you talk out side the system it doesnt work same as if you watch NDTV ...news... they never call and ask direct questions with politicians who we elected rather than spokes person of various party and make fun

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  • Sanjay Rao, Mangalore

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    Jossey Saldanha, you are correct it is high time we started to ELIMINATE corrupt politians

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  • Pradeep Shenoy, Mangalore/USA

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    It all starts with electing "clean" candidates for public office. What we have right now in Parliament is candidates with criminal background and history. Educating the masses and holding elected officials to task with "d" and new laws is the only salvation for Mother India. There has to be "checks" and "balances".

    Put the criminals behind bars AND recover ALL siphoned public wealth.

    What's happening right now is such a disgrace and a matter of shame in front of the world.

    SIMPLY PATHETIC!!

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  • Santosh Kumar, India

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    @Gananath B Shetty, Nandikur/ Mumbai,
    Gandhiji underestimated dividing power within. British rule 90% free of corruption in U.K.

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  • Bulsam, Mangalore

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    The Govt should come out with clear picture and allow a sitting Supreme Court judge to investigate the whole episodes since 2004. We the public should raise up against these giant Govt sharks and super giant Industrial cartels.
    Hey the people of India, you too should form a National Citizens Forum called ARISE BHARAT or "ArB" to check the corrupt Arb-pattis.
    Long live Santosh Hegde! Jai Hind!!

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    Yes, to eleminate corruption. The high profile politicians have to eliminate themselves first. Corruption and politicians are related in consanguinity. Therefore, one cannot survive in the absence of the other.

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    Public life is too busy!!!
    No one want to waste time in Govt offices for their requirements. Hence forcefully we have to pay bibe... to get your work done in shortest time.
    Person taking bribe is similar to a beggar. A beggar (non nonalcoholic) always keep on begging and will never count his earnings... and one day die on the road...

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  • KT, Mangalore

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    its the people / we are responsible for Corruption . every builder pay bribe to pass the license, tell me who is responsible?

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  • RAMALI PINTO, BANGALORE

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    OUR GOVT IS DOING VERY GOOD JOB. THEY ARE NOT CORRUPTED THEY ONLY USED THE CORRUPTED SYSTEM WHY BLAME THEM. MINING MONEY WAS MINE AND YOURS. LAND MONEY WAS YOU AND ME. MORAL POLICING IS CULTURE PROTECTING. THEN WHAT IS CORRUPTION FIRST DEFINE. A PLACE LIKE INDIA CORRUPTION IS RELIGION. WHY EVERY WORSHIPING HOUSE IS HAVING A OFFERING HUNDI.{ALL RELIGIONS} DOES GOD NEEDS THIS MONEY? IN OUR COUNTRY ALL BODIES WHICH MAKE A COUNTRY ARE CORRUPTED. WHY ONLY BLAME POLITICIANS? ALL OF THEIR NAMES START WITH WORD "P" POLITICIAN/POLICE/PRIEST AND FINALLY WE PEOPLE,FIRST THINK. LOOTING IS EFFECTING OUR COUNTRY THAT SHOULD BE STOPPED. A BRIBE IS NOT ENTERTAINED BUT IN A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA WE CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THAT. BUT THOUSANDS OF CRORES LOOTING SHOULD BE STOPPED. JAI HOO

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  • ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    The situation in Karnataka is that honest politician dare not aspire even party ticket of any political party for being defeated unless ill gotten money spent on election like flood water.In the past, we used to hear a small allegations of politicians be it in corruptions or any other reasons,he was forced to quit immediately.But what is the present situation?It is unprecedented and in Karnataka it is unbearable to contest honest politician.As an individual first I must correct myself and decide not to corrupt or corrupted by others.JANLOKPAL Bill will certainly bring down the speed of corruption for certain level by then corrupt people may find another way out to counter it.WE have EC which is for namesake and if it wills it can effectively contribute in doing corrupt free election like once Mr SHESHAN,Ex EC, showed to India.

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  • Anitha D'souza, Pangla/Shankerpura

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    Corruption can be eliminated only when Gandiji is reborn in INDIA & rule our country..

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  • Gananath B Shetty, Nandikur/ Mumbai

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    Honest people should be voted to the Parliament

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/Mumbai

    Fri, Aug 31 2012

    Corruption cannot be eliminated but we can eliminate corrupt politicians.
    Next time you vote just think.....

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