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Bengaluru: VVPAT boxes found in Managuli do not belong to EC, says Sanjiv Kumar

  •   Mon, May 21 2018 06:14:17 PM

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Daijiworld Media Network - Bengaluru

Bangalore, May 21: The VVPAT carrying boxes found in Managuli village of Basavana Bagewadi taluk do not belong to Vijayapura district nor to Karnataka Election Commission, clarified Karnataka Chief Electoral Officer Sanjiv Kumar in Bengaluru on Monday.

As many as 8 VVPAT carrying cases found in a temporary shed near Managuli village is without machine and paper and without unique Electronic tracking number.

Speaking to reporters, he said: "The Election Commission will initiate strict action against those who are trying to create confusion."

Based on the news aired in a news channel on May 20, the District Commissioner and District Superintendent of Police have personally visited the site and conducted inspection.

The Chief Electoral officer further clarified that no VVPAT machines were found at the spot.

"These boxes found in the shed do not belong to Vijayapura district and 2744 VVPATs allotted to the district are safely kept in the strong room,’’ he clarified.

A FIR is registered at Managuli Police Station and investigation is on.

 

 
  

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  • Honnappa, Byadagi

    Tue, May 22 2018

    This man is desperate to hush up the things without proper investigations. Yesterday there were media reports about how thousands of voter identity cards found in an apartment at Raja Rajeshwari Nagar, Bengaluru are being returned based on declaration that the person had lost his voter id. Fishy. He is trying to cover up many illegal things that have happened.

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  • Indian Kannadiga, Coastal Karnataka

    Tue, May 22 2018

    Fantastic arguement by EC. A well thought statement! So if some vehicle is carrying bundles of currency and if someone informs the Police about it, can the Police say, it does not belong to any Bank and leave the vehicle?? What are we talking??

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  • Dr. Haneef Shabab, Bhatkal

    Tue, May 22 2018

    By the way whose child is this???!!!!

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  • M Shetty, Mangalore

    Tue, May 22 2018

    Re-introduce Ballot Paper - everything will be trance parent

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  • Vincent Rodrigues, Bengaluru/Katapadi

    Tue, May 22 2018

    Election Commission need to be alert and safe guard the authenticity of EVM working since the people are loosing confidence on voting machines

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  • Indian Kannadiga, Coastal Karnataka

    Tue, May 22 2018

    This is India, just reject the statement and dishown the articles. Finished!
    What an Election Commission we have.! If that does not belong to EC, then how did those land there? from where?? and who else use these??

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Tue, May 22 2018

    We are convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that EVM rigging still happens. There is too much of circumstantial evidence which the EC time and again passes off as technical fault but now what will they say about these VVPATs.

    However, the biggest joke is that Cheddyurappa is going complaining to EC about it. This is either a drama or a trick to throw investigators off the scent/mislead the investigators. This is a common trick used by thieves, criminals etc.. Kidnap someone and then pretend to help the police search for the person. Most likely this a drama to confuse the public.

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  • JOHN, MANGALORE

    Mon, May 21 2018

    THE QUESTION IS HOW THE MACHINES LANDED THERE IN THE HANDS OF LABOURERS!!!THE NEWS STATES THAT THE MACHINE CONTAINS ONLY THE OUTER STRUCTURE. THAT MEANS THE INSIDE HARD DISC MUST HAVE CHANGED TO SOME OTHER MACHINES BY OFFERING CRORES!!!FOOLING PEOPLE OF KARNATAKA
    THIS PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED ONLY IF THE EVM ARE CONNECTED TO THE STELLITE JUST AS ATM CASH CARRYING VEHCLES,

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  • Roshan, Mangaluru

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Modi led BJP has put up one thing right for themselves, i.e. they have got people in right places to sing the tune what RSS wants. Take media there are TV chnls like TOI, Republic, ZEE, whose only job is tweak, twist and present the news in such a way that suits BJP. Then you have CBI, IT, ED, to target the opponents and shut them down. Cops are there to save mafia. There is penetration within judiciary too, where all criminality get washed away. Governors who sit and dance as they are asked to do. Now to add to that gang, election commission.

    Now, it goes the full circle. There is no escape.

    People think all it happens for the good of nation. Give it a break. If any one knows the history, it is the start of decimation, where the weak and innocent gets ridden first. Importantly, there is no partisan in that.

    There is still time and hope that people realize before they jump along with piped piper.

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  • El En Tea, Mumbai

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Paid lier.

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  • RIL, Blore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    ED certification itself certifies the facts behind this gimmick

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  • Narendra Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    The real game is open for 2019 general elections.

    All United opposition combine should gather momentum now after KAR-NATAKA election results ...still "ONE FULL YEAR" is there in hand for you....

    A few suggestions for 2019 general elections:

    1. Link Aadhaar to Voter Id Card.

    2. Without digital Aadhar authentication, don't allow to after authenticity send SMS to their mobile phones.

    3. If any problem arises during Aadhar authentication for farm labourers etc only in those cases(exceptional), allow passport or Bank documents only for verification and allow them to vote.

    4.Go only 100% Ballot Paper voting though it's a gross expenditure to the government eschequer and we are going backwards to conventional methods...What's a big deal about it?.
    Even countries like U.S. & Japanese and many more are using the same methods as of date.......

    Are we more advanced digitally developed than these two countries???????.

    Defeat FEKHU & DAAKHU from these frauds from disguising and emotional blackmail voters in the name Hindu .....blah...blah..& and using institutions as their personal property!!!

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    As an E&C engineer of 30 years I don't trust dgitisation anymore. It can be hacked any time. Government websites have been hacked. What is the security except hype from third party (anti virus provider) whom I am supposed to trust?
    In any other business we in kudla call this mannde bechcha

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  • NITIN, MANGALORE

    Mon, May 21 2018

    if the Governor has been sold out to BJP for how come you say that Election commission is not sold out to BJP???

    there is 100% manupulation in Election voting machines which are manufactured in Nagpur Head Quarter.

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  • sri_elder, Karkala

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Karnataka using evm from 1999 state election onwards... When Krishna become cm...

    Pretty stable evms

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Car can be same model. Depends on driver.

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  • Anil, Udupi

    Mon, May 21 2018

    May be. But Congress Government did not play with EVM's. The game started only after Modi became the PM.

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  • sri_elder, Karkala

    Tue, May 22 2018

    EVMs are fine when congress gets selected!
    hahaha...
    If BJP plays same music just like you when congress gets gets majority then what will you do?

    Now bjp can say Panjab, congress manipulated EVMs... hahaha

    Congress got 78 seats due to evm... Actually they are eligible for 44!

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  • Eric Coelho, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    If that is so then VVPAT boxes can be duplicated and faked like the EVMs. Can they atleast find out from where they got this. Was it used for election purposes recently.

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  • SURESH, MUMBAI

    Mon, May 21 2018

    For those who don't want EVM, Let India have military rule. We don't want ballot

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    What kind of logic is that? Can you explain please Suresh?

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  • Rolf, Dubai

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Full of cowdung .

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  • Shammi, Karnataka

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Suresh Mamu,

    If you are saying so blatantly No Ballots ,only EVM,then that means you also agree BJP is utter failure without EVM.

    EVM means Every Vote for Modi.ITS A NERVE OF BJPEES.

    DON'T WORRY WE TOO HAVE BEST NEUROLOGIST IN KARNATAKA FOR THAT.THEY WILL CUT THAT NERVE SOON..WHOLE INDIA KNOWS KARNATAKA HAS ONE OF THE BEST and FEROCIOUS CONGRESS LEADERS.

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  • Ramesh S, MANGALORE

    Mon, May 21 2018

    ..it was big plan by Congress..they faked everything even EVM box to use it if BJP gets full majority..since now they are forming Govt, they keeping quite..

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  • anthony, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Ever since the General Elections in 2014, Complaints have been received from all political parties about the EVM's either being faulty or being tampered/hacked to favour a political party or individual. High time we discard the EVM's and reintroduce the Ballot Papers for free and fair elections in the future

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  • sri_elder, Karkala

    Mon, May 21 2018

    After 2014 people have started rejecting congress...
    Need courage to accept the defeat!

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  • JD, Karkala

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Ok ... no issue,
    May be belongs to Modi v/s Shah Co. .!!!

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  • Mark Dcruz, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Those are not of EC but personal property of BjP

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  • Dev, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Time to switch back to ballot papers & boxes which are transparent letting party booth workers or representatives to see that boxes are not stuffed with many votes even before first vote is cast like in some European Countries.
    Questions EC needs to clarify-
    Does the EVM controlling officer know how many votes are cast while voting is going on, if not what guarantee is there that they might not contain previous votes in another election or were pre-stuffed with additional votes,
    Does it show the final figures of votes cast & that they match list of voters who had voted in that booth?
    Do they show the VVPATs don't contain any votes in printed form before voting starts to match EVMs?
    Why no cross verification of VVPATs with EVMs selected randomly by poll agents for minimum 25%, if found any discrepancy, then all VVPATs to be cross verified with EVMs? If they are not done then what is the use of having them? Only as a SHOW PIECE?
    Why no provision to submit them to the courts if any candidate challenges the election declared is wrong & has any doubts? If the commission can't afford the expenses then collect the same from candidates Deposit with them.
    Is EC supreme than people who vote in a Democracy, if not then why people shouldn't be given a choice to select their mode of voting to ballots or EVMs?

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    I say this again programming and electronics is a game. If there is no INTEGRITY in the programmer most anything can be achieved.
    If you don't believe me ask yourself why there is virus, antivirus, malware, antimalware,.....its like you create the problem....then ask people to pay for safeguarding against the problem. Sophisticated "HAFTHA" business.
    Apply same principles (I know most people won't get it....so I kept quiet for so long) to EVM which is a much simpler device than your laptop or smartphone. You still need antivirus on both these.
    So THINK!

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  • Navin, Kundapur

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Dear Mr. EC, please cancel this VVPAT, PAT, PAT paterrr system isme pura golmal hota hai sab...

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  • shenoy, mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Agree what you say EC.. Can you clarify how did Lobo from Mangalore And Bawa from Suratkal lose the election with huge margin. Voters aren"t that foolish to vote for new faces when the present MLA doing a fantastic jobs with a clear far vision for mangalore town....Dal Mein Kuch Kala HAi Saab..

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  • Jenifer, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Very much true. JRL, who did so much of developmental work in Mangalore was in no way expected to lose.

    Well, when a voter IDs are issued based on a person's mobile number, there should be a system to send SMS to the voter when his voter ID is used, indicating to which party his vote is given. Granted, it can be contained till the day of result to safeguard confidentiality, but this way there is an alternative method to come to an average votes a particular candidate received.

    Otherwise the golmaal that is going on is too deceiving to the voter.

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    As an E&C engineer with 30 years experience I'll tell you Jenifer that electronics and programming of it can be manipulated. Don't wish for it.

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  • sri_elder, Karkala

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Prior to voting they did some voter training sessions etc.. So they must have gone to wrong hands and gone to scrap shop!

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  • JD, Karkala

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Votrasi .....

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  • Jenifer, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Sri,

    The boxes may certainly not have come from Mars ? There has to be somebody who fabricated them - it must be found out to confirm the possibility you suggested.

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  • Ramesh S, MANGALORE

    Mon, May 21 2018

    ..OHHH..Congress planed this also!!..if they loose election, not able ally with JDS then they will show these dupicate boxes and cry election rigged..these people had all the arrangement handy..educated still in candle march, while others voted wisely..

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  • Jenifer, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Meaning ?? You seem to know the method how the EVMs work. I am thinking so because news about EVM hackers contacting candidates offering service is no secret anymore.

    If hackers can have access to EVMs, why not party itself to replace CCPAT boxes ??

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  • Ummar, Santhekatte

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Mr. EC we knew this is not belongs to you and it belongs to BJP. How much you get for this statement and how much for fixing the election. Shame shame......

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  • Peacelover, India

    Mon, May 21 2018

    I knew only today that Pakistan too is using similar VVPAT machines. We should give fitting reply to Pakistan for throwing their VVPAT machines in India, that too in Karnataka. Not acceptable.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Mon, May 21 2018

    How did boxes from Pakistan land in India ...

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  • Aravind Shetty, Mangalore/Riyadh

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Oh I see. I think it's belongs fisherman and may be they forgot when went to fishing. Oh sorry, Bangalore doesn't have ocean, so it's belong to some labors who digging the roads. Dear EC, just wondering is there another commission producing VVPAT in India other than you and if not then how can you say "it's not belong to you" and then belongs to who?????? or just wondering whether is these kind of VVPAT using in private companies election something board of directors selection:))))). When you lie, try to be genuine lie not fake lie. Looks like fekuism is everywhere.

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  • Mohan, Kudla kori

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Is it came from Uganda or Somalia... Gool ma'al jaruur Hay.... EC JUST WASHING ITS HAND... ND SHOWS CLEAN TO PUBLIC.

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  • 57"Chest, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    Mr EC, as per police report they have seized 8 VVPAT machines without batteries and filed FIR and search is on. You mean to say police report is wrong. Is your report dictated from Nagpur?. Your EVMs have targeted specifically the key leaders of congress and they have conceded defeat which is otherwise impossible.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Mon, May 21 2018

    So who do those VVPAT boxes belong to ? What is the reason for anyone to have VVPATs other than EC ? EC should thoroughly investigate. If there are VVPATs then are there some non EC owned Ballot Units and Control Units too (which are part of the EVM set up) linked to these VVPATs ?
    This is a very, very, very serious matter and until a full thorough probe is conducted and the complete truth is unearthed it will only reinforce suspicions of the misuse of EVMs by the Feku party.

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    All eyewash. If they offered 100crores to MLAs after the results the question comes begging how much were those conducting this eyewash offered?
    The calculations went wrong in that the people voted more than expected for Candidates other than BJP.
    Ballot paper polls are strictly the need of the hour for 2019 and with UN observers. It is upto the secular parties to make the requisite noise in the international media.

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangalore

    Mon, May 21 2018

    How many crores?

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