kiran, mumbai

supriya shud hv thought bfor running away as her marriage ws fixed n everything ws arranged. Taking a drastic step of runing away without their parents giving any idea of their love is improper n doesnt makes any sense....true love is to sacrifice not to achieve. True love teaches us the other persons happiness and nt selfishness....

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Abu syed Umar, Dammam,

I have no problem how you get your women dressed. My point is, do not befriend women who do not dress like your women for the reasons I explained to Roshan. Adjustment problems is not with us - did I (or our men) complain about your women's dress code ?

We are not living in the 15th century this is 21st century. We must either ride carts of the age of scriptures or ride cars of the modern world. Option is yours alone do not pull others along - all are free to choose their own lifestyle. In other words, when a man knows that he can't resist a certain phenomenon, he must not go to places like Jumeirah Beach than blaming the phenomenon for his misdeeds. A man's command is limited to only his house not the entire neighbourhood. Neighbouring people live as it pleases them - not you.

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Abu syed Umar, Dammam

Reading most of the comments which are mostly fired at each other I view the cause for this problem in this way, Humans are following their own whims and fancies and not the Laws defined by our Creator.

Sister Lydia Lobo comments’ in her reply to Ashraf Habibi that “why should our girls' dressing style bother you?”, Minds like her should understand that all those living in the communities are Humans and they have commonalities in their basic nature so they all behave similarly. If an infant is running towards a busy road any human being from any region or community will run towards the baby to stop her.

Our Creator Who Created us knows us and our requirements best, He knows how we react and to what etc. etc., therefore He (Creator) kept sending His Books, Messengers & Prophets to guide we Humans to lead a peaceful life in this world.

In the Bible, Women are ordered

“… women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.” 1 Timothy 2 : 9 – 10

And also in

Isaiah 3 : 16 – 24, Deuteronomy Chapter 22 : 5 Etc. Etc.

in Quran Chapter 24 Verse 31 Women are ordered to observe Modesty

If the Humans (from all communities) turn towards their Creator God and follows His Commandment instead of following their own whims and fancies then Peace will prevail and Man will be out of Satan’s (Evil) clutches God willingly.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Ashraf Habibi, DAMMAM,Mangalore,

Aren't your comments exactly opposite that of (1) Mohd Basheruddin, Kaup, UAE and (2)ILYAS MOMIN KOLA, SHIRUR-ALJUBAIL-K S A ? At the same time, the girls who you said married men from community different from yours and live in Saudi Arabia you did not mention the present religion of those men ?

If, as you said, you are supposed to lower the gaze, why should our girls' dressing style bother you ? It would be nice if some one from Jumeirah area in Dubai (an Islamic state) points out here how men lower their gaze on the this beach, a place that OUR Girls seldom frequent. And, try to establish how many of OUR community men are among those who line up here.

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Ashraf Habibi, DAMMAM,Mangalore

Ms.Lydia Lobo,Kadri.

No parents wants their sons & daughters to marry girls/boys of other community..here in this case also definitely it was not the wish of the Muslim parents.

It is wrong to argue that it is always Muslim community boys who shops from other community.Atleast in my friend circle 2 muslims married doctors were shopped (your words) by christians nurses.Now both the doctors have accepted them as their wives & one is living in Saudi Arabia.

I can give you many examples from my Panchayat town good educated muslim boys were shopped by Christian girls...it is definitely a loss to the Muslim community...we are concerned about this development....Our elders/scholars do advise us/give sermon not to fall prey to the temptations...

Still boys/girls do mistakes in their youth.It is not restricted to Mulim community only...

Can you not advise your community girls to wear modestly as ordered by your religion also...

Agree that Muslim boys should be in Hermit till the marriage...then your community girls should also wear modestly like nuns...

We are ordered to lower our gaze, so also you are ordered to wear a modest dress..

Why pointing fingers at muslim boys? Now a days girls are more choosy than boys...

Here who is the loser & who is the winner as per you.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

ILYAS MOMIN KOLA, SHIRUR-ALJUBAIL-K S A

Would you have said the same thing if Pooja Hegde was your daughter or if your daughter was seeking blessing from you in similar situation ?

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

ILYAS MOMIN KOLA, SHIRUR-ALJUBAIL-K S A,

Are those men male-prostitutes to give pleasrue ? Don't they have principles, culture, traditions that apply to the women of your own community ?

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Jacob, Bijai,

Have you or any of your relatives lost a daughter to this community ? If no, then you won't understand the pain hence your comment is equal to a blind man explaining how an elephant looks. We women do go through very testing times of resisting these tempting elements. Please allow us women to deal with our ordeals save your preaching for a better cause.

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ILYAS MOMIN KOLA, SHIRUR-ALJUBAIL-K S A

MiSS LYDIA LOBO,,,
Its those girls choose other community boys to get pleasure.
Its utterly a false statement that our community girls are not beautiful.
Be aware of your answer while commenting.
MIss pooja Hegde,,,,,,go ahead.
Wish you a happy married life

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Roshan, here is how OUR men are saintly :

Your women are restricted to four walls (none of my business - do whatever you want with your women) but the men while studying or working/doing business befriend women of other communities. You bestow all luxuries on them in order to avail all services from them. Who doesn't give-in to money ? Check the militants - they kill anybody (including their family members) - as such, you can't just blame the girls.

My point is when you don't allow your women to come out, how can you flirt around with women of other communities ? Are you not supposed to live like a hermit till you get married ? I NEED AN ANZWER TO THIS.

Mohd Basheruddin, Kaup, UAE, you are wrong you men are not handsome & smart but your method of viewing at us and your women is wrong. When you don't allow your women to have fun, you should't think other women as toys too. It hurts us the family members of the girls who lost to you men. You entice them with money and offer to marry with a pre-condition of conversion. After an affair of certain length what do you think they will do except for submitting to your black-mailing ?

For the reasons explained above Muslim women hereafter must make culture and tradition compulsory to their men too. Dowry isn't the problem for Muslim women's present state - men's behaviour is.

And, our men are saints because they don't moral police nor woman-hunt outside the community like you.

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pais, mangalore

God, are these kids or minors that we continue worrying about them. Arent they old enough to decide thier life ahead..

if they were abducted, then yes look into the matter.. But circumstances prove otherwise..

For heavens sake Stop looking at it from a communal angle..

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Jacob, Bijai,Mangalore

Lydia Lobo, Kadrishahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupiLavin Noronha, Paladka/BahrainLancelot N Tauro, Mangalore/Doha QatarAND ALL READERS
'LOVE IS BLIND'
AFTER MATURITY
BOYS 21,GIRLS 18
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE THEIR LIFE PARTNER!
WE ARE NOTHING TO OBJECT!
IN FRONT OF LOVE
WE ARE 'panee cum chaah'
why you all BREAK YOUR HEAD
WHEN TWO HEARTS MEETS TOGETHR
WHICH GOD! BINDS TOGETHER!
NO ONE CAN SEPARATE

'JEN DEVAN JODILAN
TEN MONSIAN MODINAHAI'

only we humanbeing created these all religion,cast & creed.
therer is only two religion MEN & WOMEN (Male & Fmale)
come on come out of the shel man.

"After all Love is Blind"

CHEERS!

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naser, mohd

When few weeks back hindu activist from kaup kidnaped married women from ullal it is not a big issue for you people

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arun D'souza, Karkala/kuwait

Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Right answer for Mohd Basheruddin, Kaup, UAE im waiting for his reply

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SAADU, Udupi

Lydia Lobo, Kadri
You are a genius.

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vishwajith, udupi

Ms Lydia, Mind blowing reply... specially to Mohd Basheruddin, Kaup, UAE.

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Arshad Kadli, Bhatkal / Al Khobar

Another incident of communal color to a societal problem.
The basic issue is not the religious beliefs of the girls or boys. Imagine the pain of parents if their daughter elopes with somebody from even their own caste. The effect of this will ruin the normal life in the family many a times affecting marriage of their other daughters.
The actions by these girls is against our culture and action by the boys is against spirit of Islam. One converts to Islam not by merely signing an affidavit for change of religion with sole intention of fufilling their lust. It requires wholehearted acceptance its beliefs with full understanding.
The flower and bee Natural phenomenon theorey of anamika suits only western world wherein a large percenatge of childern are not aware who is their father.

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Manohar Veigas, UDUPI

Our social concern should be as to whether the two women gone missing will be treated by their lovers as their wives or simply be abondoned thereafter.

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BEN, Mangalore/Bahrain

In this case of running a way with the lover, I respect the courage these girls showed.In todays society we see many extra marital relations due to the parents denial for the girls choice.They live with their husband phiscally but mentally they are with their loved ones and in some cases both ways phisically too.Here we torture the poor guy who got married to these type of girls.
So I believe Ms Lidia should not take these issue to any sinle community.There are examples the muslim girls decapmed with hindu/christian boys.And I do have living proof next to my door happily living.Its modern society.

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Manohar Veigas, UDUPI

What should be our social concern is whether these two women gone missing will be looked after by their lovers as their husbands or simply be abondoned.

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jeevan, mangalore

It is common in udupi people use sur name...when the girl elop with some one why they dont use sur name(caste name)??????.

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Imran Kaup, Dubai

Hello!!! What Anamika write is 110% correct , while on the other hand Lydiya Lobo u have same two eyes, two hand , two leg, One mouth at the end you are normal human being rite only caste/community differentiate us ,,,In current scenario only celebrities or stars can marry intercaste whyn’t these guys ... live and let others to live ... if anybody oppose or create any problem for these kind of poor couple they will commiitt suicide as we have many example , so at the end of the day result will be zero . Everybody will be upset, so their family member has to agree and arrange the marriage so everybody will be happy? Isn’t it Lydiya..?
Short life makes it sweet

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Mohd Basheruddin, Kaup, UAE

Would you agree if I say that the girls of your community are ugly and stupid thats why the men seek women for other community who are pretty & Smart ?

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Anamika,

You definitely are not a woman else, you would not have compared a fellow human being of your gender to a flower that blooms and fades in a day's time. Men, in your perspective are bees nibbling on every flower which I am sure you would not expect of your father, brother and of-course husband.

Come out of your disguise if you want any sensible reply.

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P.A.Shanu, Mangalore

Both the girls are matured and they knew what they are doing.Good . It is their wish to live together so they chose to do this way knowing they may not get any support from their family. Good Luck to them... BUT

The parents who bought up them till here may be disguised and worried. Just think about their mental condition now. How to console them .It is not easy as we comment.

Matured and unamrried girls who are reading this must know..... falling in love with any able person of any caste is not at all a sin. discuss your feelings with your parents and make them to agree to accept the spouce you choose. Dont run away if they wont agree. Be in front of them and take legal protection . Register your marriage in the court of law which will be safer for the future.

Parents are the seen GODS in this world . Dont ever try to give them sorrows. They are the best friend and supporters . Keep them happy always

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Jerome, Mangalore

As per many incidents, the boys of community just want to use the gals for some time and then they ditch them. Still girls dont understand and run behind them.These boys often dont have proper jobs and education.

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anamika, Mangalore

Mr. Krishna Raja What is in the religion? If 2 souls want to be together why we should oppose it. As I mentioned in the comment, they are not minors. They are well educated and matured. If I were the parents of those girls, definitely I would have appreciated them for choosing their loved ones.Ms. Lidya lobo..don't draw a communal line that our women their woman. In love there is no religion no caste or any boundary. Flowers attracts different types of bees. Neither it is neither the mistake of flower nor the bees. It's a natural phenomenon. After all we are in 21st century and such religion wise classification out dated one. Think of IPAD, nano Technology, apples iPhone 4..

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rauf, mangalore/dubai

dear lydia plz dont mention about community, mention them in person and not community got it!

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Gangadhar, Mangalore

You are right Ms Lydia,their shopping for women in other community is because we (the other community) people are peace loving.Few men started fighting against such cases (BD etc) are termed as communal forces by the so called seculars (i think you are also one among the secular).

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M.Bhat, Mumbai

Ms.Lydia Lobo, Kadri

I fully agree with you. The members from this community jealously gaurd their women folk with all kinds of religious taboos like dress code of 14th century, fatwas etc but there is no code for these people for fliriting with girls of other community.

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Mohd Basheruddin, Kaup, UAE

Muslim boys are smart and handsome so other communities girls want Muslim guys

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Roshan,

I do have a reason for blaming this particular community's men. Their shopping for women from other communities has created moral policing by BD/SRS in our city as well as their women remaining unmarried though the blame is on dowry system. Nevertheless, why my pointing it out bothered you ?

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B.M.ZAFFER, thonse, Dubai UAE

This is totally a social issue rather than religious. One hand the young girl not get support from her own family to express her feelings or to have her right. Another end the young man ( if it is real, we have many incident of such later find different story) looking for modern girl rather than the traditional bride in his own community. We are in 21st century & we boast equal right for women. We got the reservation of 30% for women to decide the ruler’s of the country.

But an educated women has no right to chose her life partner. Unless we support our sister /daughter with her right to leave we can’t blame anyone on this particular subject. It’s shame on modern, civilized, democratic & independent country where a young couple considered as criminals for love. We must see every incident with unbiased mindset. For V.I.P’s we have one rule and for common people another. If a politician, industrialist, cricketer or film hero can marry their own love, why not a common men/women. Hope instead of making trouble between religion ( for this incident the couple only responsible not any religion ) look for solution to overcome such problem in a multi cultural, multirelgious society.

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Roshan, Mangalore

You should not generalize the issue and blame the boys of - community Ms Lobo.The boys in other community including (y)ours are not saints too.

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Roshan, Mangalore

You should not generalize the issue and blame the boys of - community Ms Lobo.The boys in other community including (y)ours are not saints too.

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Krishnaraja Y T, Katapady / Libya

Mr. Shahnawaz... As u requested both girls to return home, see one of girl already comitted to some one and suppose to marry in july, will he marry her? or her parents will accept her? they have to think before run, sangeetha she is from very poor family, and well respected family, if she came back society will stope blaming family and both girl got muslims only to run?

Mr. / Mrs. Anamika who ever it may be dont think from house, jst come out of room and see wats going on...... if u r thr in her parents place will u wish them same?

The boys will teach them in near futre, then u guys come back so that other girls will not repeat tha same mistake.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

I second to what Jerome said. Why do men of this community meddle with women of other communities ? Always the blame is on the girls. Why can't these men too taught certain culture/principles ?

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Lancelot N Tauro, Mangalore/Doha Qatar

I hate LOVE Stories, a good movie to be watched.

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Imran, UAE

Mr. Shanwaz thy knw wat to do and nt ? pls keep quite

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Vijay Udupi, Udupi

So, the end of 'Kaliyug' nearing !!!

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Arun, Mangalore

My dear Lavin Noronha for your information even Christains are victim of love jihad, check with your couterparts in Kerala

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sheikjafer, mangalore

From Centuries till today Love has 'NO BARRICADE'.
Hey.. you Footbathi Senas look at these courageous Lovers!
Now do not start your dirty game
and disturb the peace in the Society.

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Jerome, Mangalore

Both fled with boys of one community.Leaders in that community should ensure their boys are well educated and not involved in anti social activity so that there is no room for BD,SRS etc to play the role of social guards.

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anamika, Mangalore

Why Mr. Shanawaz you are requesting those girls to return back if they are happy with their lover?? They are not school going kids. Both are matured and very well know whats happening around them. Now Major General of The Rama Sene Mr. Muthalik got a topic to be in limelight for few days. For both from my side " Deerga Sumangalee Bhavo"....

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Pooja Hegde, Mangalore

my lover is also muslim, we gonna marry soon. is there any place in karnataka where we can marry without any fear?

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ILYAS MOMIN SHIRURI KOLA, SHIRUR-ALJUBAIL-K S A

lOVE JIHAD STRIKES AGAIN......... MUTHALIK GETS ONE MORE ISSUE TO SIGN IN FRONT OF CHADDI GOONS. MUTHALIK JAAGOOOOOOOOOOOOO...............

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navneet, manglore/muscat

hope its not love jihad .....

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Lavin Noronha, Paladka/Bahrain

Wow..! there goes again LOVE jihad ..is it?...RAMA SENA, BHIMA SENA, MUTHALIK SENA buckle up... pride is it stake..

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shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

Now its going to be a communual issue and Sangh Parivar will paint it as "love jehad". What has happend is sad and I request both girls to return to their parents and I request the boys to keep themselves off the girls just to maintain peace and harmony in the society. Oppoertunists will fish in the toubled waters to defame one community and seek political mileage.

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