PM, Ministers Decided Against 2G Auction, Says Kanimozhi


New Delhi, Aug 23 (IANS): The prime minister and the then finance minister P. Chidambaram were fully aware of the 2G license allocations and had decided with the now jailed telecom minister A. Raja not to auction these, DMK MP Kanimozhi, who has been named co-conspirator in the scam, Tuesday told a Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) special court here.

Senior counsel Sushil Kumar, appearing for Kanomozhi, told special Judge O.P. Saini that they were presenting the minutes of a meeting in which Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, P. Chidambaram and Raja had decided that licences for 2G spectrum were not to be auctioned.

"The (three) are good enough as witnesses to prove that there was no loss," counsel said. "They are on record in parliament that the government did not incur any loss."

Pleading that the case against Kanimozhi be discharged, the defending counsel said: "The CBI case is based on the premise that the accused caused huge loss to the state exchequer by not auctioning licences for the 2G spectrum. The moment the loss factor goes out, how can the investigative agency impose charges of cheating on my client?"

Sushil Kumar also trashed the computation of the loss by the CBI and the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG), claiming these to be "just notional losses", something that could not be the basis for prosecution.

"The CAG report (putting the losses at Rs 1.76 lakh crore to the state exchequer) was laid before the Lok Sabha Nov 16, 2010," Sushil Kumar argued. "It had not been adopted by the house. It is still in limbo as the house is yet to adopt the report." In the absence of parliamentary acceptance, the report lacked evidence value, he said.

"Both the charge sheets of the CBI show losses of Rs.22,000 crore and Rs.30,000 crore. I cannot understand the actual loss caused by my client," Sushil Kumar told the court.

"No offence is committed as far as 2G is concerned, as the rate of application money was already fixed at Rs.1,600," counsel said. He added that there was no question of conspiracy when this rate was already fixed.

The first set of charge sheets, filed in the case April 2, had named Raja, the now jailed telecom minister, eight others and the three telecom companies as co-conspirators.

The supplementary charge sheets, filed April 25, named Kanimozhi, Kalaignar TV chief Sharad Kumar, Cineyug Films founder Karim Morani and two others as the accused.

  

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  • prakash, mumbai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Please read "Black Money in Swiss banks mainly from India" by Wikileaks published on 02/08/2011 time 11:59:00 pm. Name of the people with Amount in INR Cr and Name of the Bank, Number of Accounts. Few names - Neera Radiya 289900 Cr,Rajeev Gandhi 198000 Cr, Naresh Goyal 145600 Cr, Stalin 10500 Cr, A Raja 7800 Cr, Kumarswamy 14500 Cr, Lalu Prasad Yadav 29800 Cr, Jyotiraditya Scindia Cr 9000, Kalanidi Maran 15000 Cr, karunanidhi 35000 Cr, Sarath (Sharad) Pawar 28000 Cr, Suresh Kalamadi 5900 Cr, Chitham baran 32000 Cr.

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  • Arunendra, bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    India needs strong Lokpal Bill to tackle corrution.
    India needs special courts which will listen only corruption related cases and that court should run daily 24 hours.
    We need Lokpal type of post in each state of India so that anyone asking for bribe should be immediately informed to Lokpal of that state.
    India should get freedom from the so called Gandhi family which is just exploiting India.
    I think Soniya Gandhi has shown that she is not an Indian that why she is making joke of the country (India) in the form of this level of corruption.

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  • Gian Singh, Gurgaon

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    CBI can take any action against the three main ministers of india (Manmohan, Chidambaram and Sibbal) just because CBI has to take the permission from them to arrest them. and Our great President is sleeping sumwhere or might be on sum official tour to sum other country.

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  • Jiten Maurya, USA

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Can not beleive so many Indians still support Kanimozli. if we let one corrupt go because others are too, we will never stop corruption.

    She should prove the legitmet way she and her companies massing that huge chunk of money so quick.

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  • Shashank Reddy, Secunderabad

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    haha....look who's talking...

    one criminal testifying for other fellow criminals.

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  • gb, chennai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    PM, Ministers Decided 2G scam, Says Kanimozhi, but how safely she says there is no loss to the exchequer

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  • Brijesh, Delhi

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    I think whole central government Involved in Corruption, so due to this reason they are not want Jonlokpal bill, if janlokpal will come then all ministers got open through it.

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  • sampath, Salem

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    The people who are looting poor people money are enjoying like any thing.

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  • Arun CK, Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Dear Navin
    There is no doubt that MMS is honest. His mail problem is sailence when all these black sheeps were grazing under him. Am sure he has not taken any kickbacks from these chors, but I deffinitly feel he knows to whom and where did the kickbacks reach, how much to swiss banks, how much in the banks of Italy etc. Congress should be really blessed to have such a PM leading them. He will not involve in your activities nor will he interfere. You can graze howmcuh ever you want. I think this answers the question when they call him Remote controlled PM as I feel the Mute button is always pressed.

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  • Prof.R.Krishnamurthy, Bangaluru

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    ..Will the police and the cort will allow a culprit to escape since the culprit is a old ?// The FATHER OF SCIENTIFIC CORRUPTION [ Sarkaria Commission Report],KARUNA ,NEEDS TO BE TRIED AND PUNISHED IF FOUND GUILTY .

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  • ranodeb, kolkata

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    the answer is very clear my dear, every 5 yrs in alteration you n ur state people elect iether corrupt congress or banrupt facist cpim, so they dare to play with us

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  • uttam chand jain, bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    SHOP WILL LOOTED BY THIEF AND OWNER WILL SILENT
    I think the manmohan singh is owner of this country.he should pay all loss occur to india.he may collect from sonia gandhi as she has give him post to loot by her servant(a.raja,suresh kalmadi,kanimozhi,cvc thomas and many more)if someone loot man mohan house then he will silent to looted his house by thief.no,he will make ho hall on the road to rescue his house looted by thief then why he is silent as they looted our country.he has power as owner of this shop he must called police and arrested by them,but he has silent until supreme court has intervened.so,he is most responsible thief of our country.he is not honest as we called him.if he is honest then he must stopped them from looting our country.

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  • Mankuttan Pillai, Kollam-Kerala

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    As per the statement of Miss Kanimozhi, the PM and Chidambaram should be prosicuted the CBI should make an enquiry with SONIA,CHIDAMBARAM & PM . If they are involved they should be arested why CBI not asking the question to them, We the public are not fool, we know the UPA & its PM office is involved the case so that the ANNAJI is in RAMLILA Ground for fight against corruption.

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  • Amit,

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Is it a joke ??

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  • Raghunath, Mumbai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Now this is the right time for UPA Govt, to revel the culprits of 2G scam.
    On his moral ground, Mr PC should step down with immidiate effect & revel the Truth behind the scam to People of India. And CBI should now fill FIR against him & sent to TIHAR jail for intorogaration.

    And finally PM also tell the truth why they took such decision to sell common man's weath, they are elected member for Parilliamnt, not the Broker to sell the country's resources for their personnal benifit.

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  • harish, bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    yes. Selvi daughter of Karunanidhi floated fake companies to loot money.

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  • VK, GAZIABAD

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Everybody knows in the governmnet circle that Raja acted in full confidence of PM/HM. Kanimozi is right. She and raja are responsible only for making PM agree to his proposals, which PM under coalition constraints agreed to. So PMO has faulted on due diligence and should be hauled up including PM and Chidambaram. That is why there is resistence for inclusion of PM in Lokpal bill. Kanimozi has strong case. Legally speaking, Raja etc did after getting approval from the competent authority or after following the prescribed procedure. Scam lies in giving wrong approval or letting wrong proposal just pass by with deliberate carelessness.

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  • Yuvraj, Noida

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    So its is clear why govt. is not pass janlokpal bill cause everybody id included in scam from so called saint and Sonia Gandhi

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  • Sundari, Chennai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    I still do not any reason why our PM still sticking to the PM chair. Atleast now he must disclose everything and come out as honest man and not afraid of Italy

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  • Kanimozhi, Tutu

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Kanimozhi , Raja & others should not get bail as they are trying to pass the buck now to PM now but once out on bail they will put pressure to hush up the matter. So safe for nation is that they remain behind bar.

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  • sashikant, Mount Abu

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Everyone knows that whole cabinet is involved. It's our history that No scamster in India is being punished. Let's think about how 1.6lakh crore to be seized from them. Why don't CBI don't seize the bank accounts of the convicts. Why should not court order for a seizure. Even courts also support these culprits. Bhagwan Bachaye bharat ko!!!

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  • M. Ekambaram, Nagarasampatty

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    On going through Ms. Kanimozhi's open statement, I understand, CBI has not conducted proper enquiry about the 2G spectrum case. Mr. Raja and Ms. Kanimozhi can be arrested on one or the other pretext and the ruling party's Ministers should be left out with out any enquiry and punishment. Justice should be to everybody and not to any individual / party or so. First a case should be filed against CBI for not giving correct scene of 2G spectrum, leaving the other part without enquiry and giving wrong information to the general public. Why don't you bring all concerned to the scene ?

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  • vishram dhanji, mombasa

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    india is belong to congress, so dont argue on congress, we as a indan had lot of hope on our higher educated prime minister but now we are totaly hopless with prime minister, because has important is congress not our contry, and also congress is diverting citizan by blaming oposition allways, can we think how long congress has rull india and congress is playing game with indian as all the time defurunt persion is giving statement to media, and the persion is hiding if statement are it self wrong and cotravarsial

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  • R.D.GOYAL, AGRA

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Now it is the time that CBi should investigate both pm & chidambram for their role in 2G auction.

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  • Ekalabya Talukdar, CALCUTTA

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    RAMDEV TALKED ABOUT BLACK MONEY, HIS PANDEL WAS BURNT OUT. ANNA TALKED FOR CORRUPTION, HE WAS JAILED. Ekalabya Talukdar.

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  • R.Venkateshan, Bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    When the booty is shared between Congress and DMK (may be the proportion to be decided upon the final verdict of the Court case) how can you expect anyone from Congress to own up? Am sure, there is still more hidden and can't say whose cupboards will have more skeletons !!

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  • Donjuan, London

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    CBI is a government stooge. All are hands in glove to the crimes.
    They should be kicked out. This is why Lokpal is required.

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  • navin, Gokak

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    ManMohan Singh was known as Honest person who avoided his wife using office vehicle for personal work,now why he is mum on such large scale loot happening around him! is he so attached to PM post?

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  • rajith, Moothakunnam,Kerala

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    As per me, Chidambaram,PM and supreme PM Sonia are the parts of the scan. All of them arrested and put behind the bars. Why CBI is not doing that?

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  • vishwas H.P, b'lore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    simply she s shouting.she s thinking tat by including their(pm &fm) names in d scam i can come out.but d people of india r not so fool.she should be given proper punishmnt immdtly.

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  • POONGUNRAN, COIMBATORE

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    cHIDAMBARAM SHOULD GO VOLOUNTEERLY AND PROVE HIS INNOCENCE IN THE COURT . iT IS NOT PROPER ON HIS PART JUST GIVING STATEMENTS IN THE MEDIA

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  • R/K/ESWARANr, BANGALORE

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    kANIMOZHI IS A BACCHI IN FRONT OF PC AND MMS. ONE CONCEALS HIS MISDEEDS BY TALKING VERY LOUD AND THEN OTHER BY HIS DECEIVING SMILE. AND THAT BEING DAUGHTER OF KK IS A PREVILEGE TO LOOT PUBLIC MONEY.ALL ARE ROTTEN EGGS OF THE SAME BASKET WE NEED MORE ANNAS AND SANTOSH HEGDES TO CLEAR THE MESS.

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  • Sai, Hyderabad

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Most of the scam amount is in Italy

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  • ds mahar, delhi

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    It is the fact that every bad thing start from the top.

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  • r.krishnamachari, salem

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    She only knows this statement after spending hundred days in Thihar.It is only her wisdom not knowledge.Whether P.M or H.M involved inthis scam it is not the time to tell.At the time her arrest if she made this one,it was appreciable .Timepassed comments has no value

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  • krishna, tiruchy

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Prime...beneficiary...is..Sonia..
    Dr.Swamy..has..already..allocated
    the...share..

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  • POONGUNRAN, COIMBATORE

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    This is a joint conspiracy and PM ,FM , AND HM ARE ALL INVOLVED .
    sO kANIMOZHI IS RIGHT .

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  • vivek vijayakumar, chennai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    i agree with your opinion

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  • Curatorin, Bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    The Govt can be lenient about K. Nidhi considering his age. Let others face the music. No use threatening the PM. The accused are losing. So they want to do everything possible. Nidhi is not a person to sit quite if there is no substance in the case. Let all the Dravidans unite and fight for the upliftment of the common man. Ask those idiots that bhramins also should be given some space to sleep. Let the citizens of India equal. No reservation or favours. Poverty has to be addressed of course. I would like to be just like a Mayavati who can skirt her misdeeds under the backward class category inspite of the fact that she is well educaed, has crores of money. I would like to be a backward though I am not a forward.

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  • R.Perumalsamy, Chennai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Totally Utter waste central Government.They had a problem in Every department of ministers.They are not improving out Country Status.They are improving their asset.

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  • brijesh, bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    dear counsel, kanni is a bribe taker, you are forgetting/misleading the court by talking about the loss caused. Loss caused is a different matter. I am sure the judge would understand these cheap tactics.

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  • ram, b'lore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    She thinks this whole nation is filled with idiots like her. Dont try to fool this nation get support for you to come out of jail. TN people must remove this weed quickly before they are sold by govt.

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  • Suresh, Gurgaon

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    02 MPs and jailed team giving enough evidnce to CBI that (PM & Chidambram) both are responsible for this national crime, why not CBI prosequate them and put behind bars. As whole country knew that Chidambram and his son, both are corrupt, why Govt is saving them. Voters pls teach Congress a lesson which they remember for 100 years.

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  • P.P. TALWAR, India

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Having charged fabulous amount as his professional charges, Defence Counsel for the accused Kanimozhi is trying t put cart before he horse to confuse the issue. Kanimozhi had pocketed 200 crores as bribe money paid to her Shaid Usman Balwa. Can she deny that.?

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  • piyush, kolkata

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    he is keeping mum and may be the home ministry has been assigned to him because of his suspected involvment in many such cases so that he can protect himself from the clutches of CBI and other invvstigating agencies.Charge him amd mr.PM with any number of allegations but they will remain there shamelessly and wait for the master's order. Seeing the present trend the best solution of all these ordeal will be that all ministeries should be dissolved and only one post should remain and that is supreme minister "sonia gandhi" .

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  • Nithin , Bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    Friends CBI ( Congress Bureau of Investigation) will never call Congress men just to eve wash people they are arresting from their allies no one from congress has been questioned in 2G , So lets support Anna so that we can have strong Anti- Corruption draft and avoid scams , so that People like Sonia cannot escape , see how she is playing drama health reason to get away from all political developments and get blame shifted to rubber stamp Manmohan Singh .
    So guys fight corruption its well known truth Gali Gali main shor hai Sari Neta Chor hai

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  • J R Sharma, Gurgaon

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    It appears , P Chidambram is the boss who has been armed with a hunter by congress and given unbridled authorization to thrash any body who dares to speak against the Govt , whether it is Ram Dev, Anna, Narender Modi, Jailalita . Manmohan Singh needs to prove homself worthy of his office by dispensing with such elements and also the barking dogs of congress like Manish Tiwari, Digvijay Singh,Kapil Sibal Abhisek Manu Singhvi , who always tend to bark against the wrong tree and put the Govt on defensive and cause unnecessary offence for the PM .

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  • DJ, Chennai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    PM Chidambaram, X, Y & Z not only silent in this issue. But on many issues. They are over confident because the next election is way too far and they can brush everything under carpet before that.

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  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    ITALIAN, MMS , CHIDU , HALF INDIAN & OTHER SHARKS ARE WALKING FREE BUT SMALL FISH CAUGHT BY CBI.

    JAI HO PSUEDOS.

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  • RAjan, Mumbai

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    This is the case of PM, Chidambaram et al. In AP MLA's have resigned as a protest against CBI raiding and finding mind bogging assets instead of being shocked at the find. No one is interested in straight ways. Even GOD cant save INDIA!

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  • PPS, Chandigarh

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    It's only time pass. Nothing will come out. What happened to Lalu's chara scam and various disproportionate asset cases filed against various politicians. To cool down people's anger these cases are filed. Even God does not know when will the hearing be completed

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  • niranjan, odisha

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    At first, i want to know why PM is silent about over this incident if he knows. Our country needs a strong and perfect leader.

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  • T.E.NEELAVANNAN, CHENNAI

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    The then finance minister Mr.P.Chidambaram should explain his position before the Court

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  • Praveen K Joshi, Hissar

    Tue, Aug 23 2011

    If Chidambaram knows the detail why he is keeping mum. Why CBI is not calling him for enquiry. He should also appear before CBi and Supreme Court alongwith A.Raja and Kanimozhi. Only then Raja and Kanimozhi will spill the real bean and Chidambaram's real role will come to be known. CBI should call Chidambaram now.

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