Bangalore: Miffed Christian community to reconsider support to Congress


Special Correspondent
Daijiworld Media Network - Bangalore

Bangalore, Mar 26: Various denominations of Christian community in Karnataka are miffed by the indifferent and callous attitude shown by the Congress party towards the Christian community. The Congress party has already announced a list of 26 candidates out of the 28 seats for the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in Karnataka and there is not a single Christian figure in the list. Miffed by the Congress attitude to treat them merely as vote bank, Christians have now come out in the open threatening to re-consider their support for the Congress. Bharatiya Christa Okkoota even held a press conference to this effect today in Bangalore, threatening that Christians would weigh other options including joining hands with other secular parties or even exercising the option of voting for “None of the above”.

It may be for the first time Christians have come out in the open challenging the Congress party’s ‘chalta hai‘attitude of the party. Though there are several causes for the collective anger of Christians against the Congress, not giving even a single seat to the Community in the forthcoming elections has come as a rude shock, which has prompted them to rethink their loyalty to the Congress party. In every previous election Christians were given at least two seats and this time too Christians were betting on getting Bangalore central seat to H T Sangliana and North Kanara seat to Margaret Alva’s son Nivedith Alva. There is no possibility of Christian candidates getting tickets in the remaining two constituencies and hence for the first time in 31 years none of the Christian candidates have been given Lok Sabha tickets in the state.


Not to be taken lightly

Christians traditionally have been Congress supporters and naturally this latest outburst against the Congress assumes great political significance. After speaking to some of the leaders of the Okkoota and also to some leaders of the community it is evident that the rebellion from the Christians stems from the nonchalant attitude of the Congress towards Christians. The party is under the impression that Christians will vote only for the Congress, come what may. But in the changed political equations all over the country, Christians are sending a strong message to the Congress that they are open to other political parties with secular credentials. They may even consider fielding independent candidates in some constituencies where Christians are in majority. Apart from that if the Congress loses the goodwill of the community that might considerably alter the winning prospects of the Congress in many assembly constituencies and a few Lok Sabha seats also.

Ronald Colaco, Chairman of IFKCA opines that the community has been forced to come out in the open against the injustice meted out to the community by the party. He points out “Christians of various denominations have been part of different political parties in the state. But Congress party was fair enough to allot at least two seats to us in all general elections till now. For the first time the community goes unrepresented in the state in the coming elections and that has really angered the community. Many people wanted to come out in the open and make a public protest against the indifferent mind-set of the Congress party. However, good sense prevailed and by holding a press conference our feelings known to the party”.

Valerian Fernandes, Chairman of the Federation of Konkani Catholic Association says “the trend in the last Assembly elections in the state Congress has clearly shown that the Congress was able to win many of the seats by a thin margin of 5000 to 6000 votes. We want to make it clear to the Congress leadership that it is the Christian votes which were decisive in the Congress winning many assembly seats. Having attained victory with our votes they cannot afford to dump us or take our support for granted. It is unfortunate that our community which has been in the forefront in contributing to education, health, social service etc., is left in the lurch by the Congress”.

The Congress is well aware that it might lose the goodwill of the Congress and a division of Christian votes would benefit their opponents. It called H T Sangliana to Delhi to placate him after he threatened to contest from Bangalore Central on JD (S) ticket. The party might succeed in pacifying by promising an important post in lieu of his giving up claim for Lok Sabha seat. But that move alone is not enough to assuage the ruffled feelings of Christians, who are now in no mood to consider the Congress attitude as venial.


Right Move?

Valerian further says the community has been taken for a royal ride by the Congress all these years. “It is a year since the Congress came back to power in Karnataka. In fact the BJP government started the Christian Development Council and allocated suitable funds for it. The NDA government also brought amendments to the Succession Act that benefitted the community. But the Congress is refusing to consider even our basic and genuine demands and it is hurting”, he declared.

Shanthappa Anagalapura President of Karnataka Christa Alpasankhyatara Jagruthi Vedike also echoes similar views and justifies that decision of the community to rethink on its support to Congress. “The slipshod behavior of the Congress is surprising and we will not tolerate it any more. It is a matter of shame that we have to go on representations to the party regularly on various issues with zero- end results. We have asked the government to appoint Christians as heads of some of the Boards and Corporations. But the government has not been showing any interest to accede to our requests. Why should we go on imploring the government to get something which we are entitled for? We have decided not to accept this humiliation and will decide on our next political move in the days to come”.

The religious leaders of the community are also aware of the latest move by the Christian leaders and are of the opinion that it is time the Congress realizes it cannot take our support blindly. Bishop of Gulbarga Dr Robert Michael Miranda believes that for long the Congress has been treating our community merely as vote bank, to be remembered only during elections. He opines that Christians should make an appeal to the Congress to reconsider their decision after identifying suitable candidates to fight the elections. “If the Congress does not relent to the appeal then the community has every right to rethink its support for the Congress”, Bishop Robert Miranda asserted.

Bishop of Belgaum Peter Antony Machado asserts that as a religious head he has always advised people to vote for candidate who has integrity, value and secular credentials irrespective of the party he belongs to. As for Congress he says “it is not just the issue of not giving tickets for the forthcoming elections and humiliating us. When it comes to Christian Dalits the government has failed to accord the facilities provided to other Dalits thus depriving Dalit Christians the facilities. It is time the Congress comes clear on these issues”. At the same time he cautions that any further step should be taken by due consultations and not create any confusion among people.

It is true that Christian leaders have given in plentiful representations to the government asking for appointing Christians as heads of some of the important bodies. Except for including one minister in the state cabinet Christians are sidelined in every aspect of administration. Even its representation to consider Presidentship of the State Minority Commission on rotation basis, has fallen on deaf ears of the government. State Secretary IFKCA Michael Baptist argues that “the Congress exploited the community and it is time we reconsider our decision. We have seen the world around and are aware of the developments around us. We believe no party is untouchable in the changing political equations in the country. Unless the Congress changes its attitude we have no other option but to explore other possibilities”.


Options open

Possibilities are aplenty for the Christian community which is quite upset and contrite having supported the Congress all these years and for getting nothing despite beseeching it with representations and delegations of leaders. All it has been doing is only giving assurances and forgetting them then and there. Therefore now the community is keeping its options open. The Congress may argue that Sangliana had lost from Bangalore Central against P C Mohan and Margaret Alva had lost from North Kanara against Hindutva poster boy Anant Kumar Hegde in 2009 elections. That should not be the reason for the Congress not to give them tickets because the Congress is expected to win just about 100 seats according to opinion polls in the 2014 general elections, which means the failure ratio is quite high.

State Congress President Dr Parameshwara has defended the Congress action arguing that Christian leaders like Oscar Fernandes has been made a Rajya Sabha MP and Margaret Alva has been appointed as the Governor. It is indeed comical for Dr Parameshwara to take credit for their appointment. One may even ask whether their respective positions were in lieu of them giving up the claim to fight Lok Sabha elections.

Ronald Colaco asserts that in the present situation the only option left for the Congress is to make genuine assurances to the community and give representation in the form of Rajya Sabha or MLC seats and by appointing them to some of the Boards or Corporations so that fair representation is given to all communities in the government. “This is the only way left for the Congress to prevent Christians from taking any drastic steps at the crucial juncture when the general elections are scheduled”, he states.

The Christian community has woken up to the reality and its move will put the Congress on the defensive at a time when it cannot afford to lose the support of the community. It all depends on what move the community is going to make in the coming days. Whether the Congress will be able to pacify them once again by giving assurances and succeed in getting their votes, remains to be seen.

 

  

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  • PRINCE, KUWAIT

    Mon, Mar 31 2014

    DEAR CRISTIAN BROTHERS DONT FIGHT EACH OTHER DO VOTE FOR SDPI( SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC OF INDIA ) IT IS ONLY ONE PARTY TO HELP ALL PEOPLE.. FREEDOM FROM HUNGER FREEDOM FOR FIRE

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  • ROY , PATRAO

    Sun, Mar 30 2014

    some seats as Rajya sabha & MLC SHOULD BE ALLOTED TO CHRISTIANS

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  • rego, udupi

    Sat, Mar 29 2014

    Christians should start voting for AAP... Its the only solution...

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  • v dsouza, mangalore

    Thu, Mar 27 2014

    what does it matter feilding christian candidates, some of dem are corrupt anyways whoever you feild, the thing i hate the most about democracy is that come election time, all minority are looking for freebees and special favours..,no wonder all competitive ppl have left the country and are shining in other countries..,given the reservation based politics being played...my vote goes to modi is vision is sound and development oriented unlike other parties playing caste based politics

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  • L F D'Souza, Mumbai

    Thu, Mar 27 2014

    I request Daijiworld to adopt to 'ONE PERSON, ONE COMMENT ONLY' POLICY. These days we are seeing multiple comments (arguments and counter arguments) and sometimes derogatory, which is bad for the Soeiety and channel as well.

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  • captainjohann samuhanand, Bangalore

    Thu, Mar 27 2014

    This is because we Christians tend to believe in propaganda. Now when the whole of India is supporting BJP and Modi, we tend to go against the mood of the nation due to the fear of the unknown and also prefer staus quo. Christians must vote as per the quality of candidates ,

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  • NS, Mlore

    Thu, Mar 27 2014

    Christians leaders(not all) blame BJP as communal and say Congress as Secular. Now the same people wants ticket distribution on communal lines :-) Isn't this hypocrisy? Leaders in every religion are same...only serving self interest by misleading their community.

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  • I <3 Gyaan, Mangalore

    Thu, Mar 27 2014

    I second your comment , Very true Congress is a secular party and it is not necessary that their leaders from other religion.

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  • Edwin Nazareth., Shankerpura. Udipi

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Surely, all christian community should think twice, other side BJP solgan about hinduthwa, Modi dead against with Christianity, so now Congress whom we trusted ignoring us, this is the correct time to decide.

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  • J DSOUZA, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dear Christian Brothers and sisters,we all have seen enough of Congress Govt. What did we gain ,but pain.Honestly, we are doomed by Congress.This time be wise and support someone who is strong to lead us !Personally, I like the BJP and the way they run things.They really helped Christians. So be wise and cast your vote prayerfully !

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  • Thomas, Mumbai/Muscat

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dear Abdul Majid,Bangalore. Whether it is 2% or 12% it always counts. For a candidate just few votes more than his opponent are enough to win. Don't under estimate Christians. If we can make, then we know how to break also. But we Christians for sure will not vote for any communal parties.

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    The leaders of the Congress party like Mahatma Gandhiji and Pundit Nehru had special respect for the minority Christians of India and the blind loyalty of the minority Christian community towards the Congress party was properly counted by Pundit Nehru. When some of the anti-Christian Congress leaders tried their best to disregard the minority Christian
    Community of India, Pundit Nehru stood very firmly for his solid conviction.

    But, now the game plan is going in another direction. The percentage of the Christian population is far higher than the national data of 2.5%.

    If the Congress party is deliberately trying to ignore the Christian community which runs about 30% of the private healthcare and educational institution in India, then they are making a very serious political blunder.

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  • kodialda muthu, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    My question to Christian leaders. September 14 2008, I cant forget nor anyone in mangalore. Who planned the church attacks? congress give us the answers.

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  • kodialda muthu, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dear Christian organizations heads, you are not to tell us Christians to reconsider. This time, enough of congress!

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  • Ad, Indi

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    The Christian community must go for a change by joining AAP and must support it. AAP is going to be the future ruling party of India. Go for a change!!!!!!!!!

    In AAP there is some hope of corruption free India.

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  • TRaghu Pai, Bangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    SECULAR votebank of SECULAR Congress is miffed! Some of them for NOTA, some for AAP which means split in the votebank and less hurdle towards MISSION 272.
    Ab ki baar, Modi sarkar.

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    And now you tell me who is communal, who is moral, who is dividing Nation and who is supporting whom? Why don’t we allocate other business activities and religious properties based on the percentage of communities?

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  • VIN, Mumbai/Kuwait

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    We should vote as Indians and not as religion based.

    We all are Indians and we do have fundamental rights to vote. Before voting please read the constitution of India. It will give and more light on being an Indian.
    Christians should contest, but for which party? All parties are corrupted.
    My advice is to join AAP.

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  • David , Udupi

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    congress once again woke up now as usual. We know to whom vote for...

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  • abdul majid, bangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Christians are only 2% in india does their vote really matter, muslims are 12% at current so all political parties want muslims on their side.

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  • Roshan Braganza, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    @ J DAL , BVR. Only christian leader died 2000 years ago , and also only one person to self resurrect in the history of mankind. Coming to point , why only christian leader , why not a good leader ?. Lets keep religion personal , and on a social level lets support good leaders.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    And the only one who will come again !

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  • NCM PRBHU, KIREM

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Someone has forgotten to highlight tho the Karnataka congress that among all the communities in india it is the Christians who take it as an obligation to vote.the voting %among Christian is above 90 %.Almost every Christian I know takes it as his religious duty to vote.We should all decide now and move our votes for another party who has the right candidates.Or use NOTA

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  • RICH, M'LORE

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Our system for forming the government is that the leader should have minimum 50% of total elected legislators or MPs with him, whereas for the elected legislator or MP there is no need of securing 50# of polled votes for him of the constituency belonging to him.The requirement is,that the elected member should get minimum one vote more than the other contested members .So what it matters whether the candidate is christian or from other religion ,when our present voting system itself is not correct. It should have been that the member gets elected only if he gets 50% of polled votes for him, as this matches with the formation of govt system also. Only if AAP comes to power all these type of anomalies will be removed,but congress & BJP will never do this.So vote for AAP for a better future.

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  • naveen devadiga, udupi

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    MAY BE CONGIS GIVEN HUGE MONEY FOR THEM.

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  • sampath,

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    They are Dalit christians and they dont come under Christians catagary

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dalit Christians are 'Christians' too. The word Dalit only refers to their origins before conversion. The word Dalit has no relevance to Christianity in the context of the faith.

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  • RAJESH PINTO, MANGALORE

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Declan
    I do agree with you they are also Christians, but they cannot marry RC girl Y

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  • JOY CASTELINO, MOODUBELLE/DUBAI

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    RAJESH PINTO, MANGALORE, who told you Dalit Christians cannot marry RC girls?, in our area so many Dalit Christians married RC girl/boys.....

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    First of all you are wrong. I feel sorry for your lack of knowledge, but I will not educate you as I feel your comments are with the intent to malign. Go and educate yourself if you wish to.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Get educated on the subject before making such comments. You could misguide other readers.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    You say you are Rajesh Pinto but I don't know why I get the feeling your question feels like from a Rajesh Shetty or a Rajesh Kumar etc.

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  • I Kullu, Maloreang

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Where the question arises of marriage for a Dalit christian he/she can marry anybody in the world(Eropiens, Africans,Americans, Asians ) in current scenario.

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  • Alwyn, CANADA

    Mon, Mar 31 2014

    Why you think dalit girls can't marry Roman catholic? Did you made this rule. I married a girl you name them as dalit but I call them as Christian and have a great life partner. Please donot express your loose talks on this discussion board. Human are born with no religion. So do not be a racist in colour, religion, race

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  • George A. Borromeo, Angelore, Mangalore, India

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Prabhu, I totally agree with you. But the Problem lies with Sangh Parivar Leaders who preach Hate Minorities Religion, reasoning Conversion, Love Jehad, Terrorism, etc. etc. Let BJP openly assure Law abiding Minorities that they shall be protected from any harm afflicted by HJV, BD, RS, SS etc.,etc..Then Christians may think of siding with BJP, like Goa Christians. There is a difference between Shrimaan Vajapayeeji's BJP and Present BJP. Hardly we get Mr. Parricker like CM.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    George, your arguments says that what ever BD,SENE,HJV do BJP will responsible!!..can you hold responsible Congress for IM,SIMI bombing & killing innocents!! Congress always sympathise with these people..PFI,KDF,SDPI supported Congress all along..these fringe groups works their own..Home stay attack was happened during BJP rule, do you thing any help attackers got from Govt to release them..How many people are caught during Congress rule?..I never find BJP pushing RSS agenda, either in state or National level..But we can find Congress & all other parties appeasing pushing their agenda..

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    BJP haters should read Mr.Valerian's comment..unless you vote sensibly without relying on propaganda, politics(which party will benifit from damaging church!) you will succeed..BJP knows you are traditionally Congress voters, but still it didnt treated you as voting machine..hope sense prevail..moreover, please dont beg these political parties..look at the other minorities who clinging for so many year with Congress & where they are..you people are doing good in all sectors, we are indebted to you on many ways..forget politics it will not do anything good to you,instead teaching hate others..

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  • J Dal, BVR

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dear Christian brothers and sister you have only one leader who died 2000 years back. after that no leaders being created by christens. There was only one fool whom you have sent to parliament was Oscar fernandes.. Now, instead of looking for Christian leaders and the congress. look for the best candidates and vote for them..
    Congress has used Christians only for the votes and gave them zero.. Only the last times BJP govt sanctioned Rs 50 crores for Christian betterment and well being.. only because of that present gov has sanctioned 100 crores in this budget.. since the last 60 years, remembered Christian during elections...
    But it is true BS yediyurappa had said incostituency that If Christians doesn't vote also has no problem for him to win the election..
    NEVER DEPEND ON CONGRESS, BUT DEPEND ON THE BETTER CANDIDATE Or else go for NOTA... congress down down,,
    You will read it if daijiworld approves it.

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  • Rohan Dsouza, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Seat is not important for us, but we need secular party like Congress or AAP party,safron party comes in power means finish,monirity people will facing lot of problems

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  • ethan lobo, mangalore/mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Congress favours only one religion.... rest all taken for granted.

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  • Browny - Kuwait, Kuwait

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Whoever comes in power, Christians must struggle in the Gulf to have a better life in native otherwise the fate of Christians is worst than any SC or ST.

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  • Vincent Praveen Castelino, Pernal / Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014



    Only the Congress Central Leadership can understand these "Issues" because state leaders will not give the clear picture!!!.

    Christian Community Leaders....it is the right time to make aware the Central Congress Leadership about our blind support to the party for decades, only for peace and communal harmony and it has been taken for granted now by the State Leadership!!!!

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Vincent Praveen, I am fully with you on this. The Congress central leadership will be furious and will never tolerate such attitude from the Congress state unit.

    Therefore, it is high time the Christian community leaders bypass the Congress state unit and get directly in touch with the Congress central leadership regarding this neglect. I am sure that then this matter will be properly resolved.

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  • Godwin D'Souza, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Why should Christians be miffed if Congress does not give them a seat, after all what development did these Christian leaders do, other than line their own pockets? Just vote for AAP and let Congress be miffed. Most Christians forgot they serve a mighty GOD and it is GOD who is their provider not congress. Have Parsis not prospered in India? Have Jews not prospered in the USA? Forget these Christian groups for they cannot represent Christians nor can the priests and Bishops. We have brains, use it, and don’t be tube lights as R.Bhandarkar says.
    Congress would have provided Christians a seat or two if they had uplifted the society better than others, they should have been the salt of society or a light on hill. Instead MLA Mr. Lobo is raising property taxes and earning ire of common man. Mangalore does not have a footpath which is being occupied by roads. He has not done anything for it. What has Congress done with regard to Church attacks by the previous government? Did they hold an enquiry to find brain behind those attacks? Forget Congress & BJP as they are two sides of the same coin.

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  • rion, udupi

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Truly right.

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dalit Christian not enjoying reservesion and schemes? I think indian constitution dont recognise religious reservation. And christianity dont belive caste system. So term dalit christian doesnot exist..y reservation?

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    There is NO caste system in Christianity.

    Here the definition of 'Dalit Christians' refers to Dalit Hindus who were converted to Christianity. These persons include tribal, Adivasis, other backward classes, etc. who still face caste discrimination in Society inspite of being converts to Christianity. Reservation is granted to them only to address this inequality.
    However, this is applicable only to 2nd or 3rd generation (not too sure upto which generation) 'Dalit to Christian' converts.

    This is not relevant to most of the Christians or Catholics in DK, Udupi districts, Uttara Kannada, Goa, Kerala etc. as most of us are descendants of Christian converts decades/centuries ago that too from various classes of society.

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Most of the dalits converted to christianity to get rid of caste system.. so they want benifits..if they want they can come back to orginal religion and get dalit status. As there is no caste system in christianity its wrong to ask reservation. Should not have double stand..

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    To stay as Christians or to re-convert to Hindus is their free choice. The government cannot force them to re-convert to Hinduism. At the same time the government cannot neglect addressing the social discrimination they face even after having converted to Christianity. So what is wrong if they ask for reservation if they are facing social discrimination as Christians while choosing to remain as Christians ? Nothing 'double standard' in that.
    In fact the government will be indirectly forcing them into re-conversion into Hinduism by denying them reservation, which would be going against 'secular' principles laid down in our constitution.

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Its wrong to ask reservation for dalit christian. As once u convert u r no more dalit. If they want can ask for christian or minority reservation. even though not constitutional

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Wrong or right to ask for reservation is the decision of the Government of India, not yours or mine.
    Communities/Groups who have been socially discriminated for decades will understand better what I am saying. Others may or may not.

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  • vinayak prabhu, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    You dont want government funds?? Y do bishop meet chief minister requesting preferences and packages for minorities

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  • Naveen Mascarenhas , Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    My dear Christian Brothers & Sisters, when we are treated like 2nd class citizens of India by the so called dirty & corrupt political parties like Congress & BJP, and for a change let all of us Vote for AAP so that none of these parties UPA & NDA should come to power at the Centre.

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  • Vinson Vaz, Kadri, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    I am Christian, but before all I am an Indian. I would not say Congress party has done a lot too good neither blame the BJP for anything worse. But I wonder who has permitted people holding posts to decide for all Christians, whether they would render support to the Congress or whether they intend to reconsider?
    Am sure most of the Christians in this country are well educated and they can make their own choice. And in that case they may even reconsider voting for AAP. Why not try the newcomers when the existing parties have already digested their shares over the period of years!

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Christians probably trust Congress more than BJP the main reason for that being the 2008 church attacks and attacks on the Christian community with the tacit support of the State BJP government and Sangh parivar. All their equations and relation with BJP changed after that bitter experience in 2008.

    We remember how the BJP and its henchmen from Bajrang Dal attacked Christians all over the state in an orchestrated manner and in 2013, we saw the christian response when they voted en block for Congress to defeat BJP.

    The BJP and its fringe groups have always been hostile towards minorities and it is a proven fact. Ultra right wing radical groups like BD, Senas, HJV are highly intolerant towards them as a result Christian wont even consider BJP in 2014 or 2018 elections.

    Even if Christians move towards BJP then they will be treated as second class citizens, inline with Golwalkars teachings.

    As an alternative, they might swing towards AAP, incase they intend to teach Congi a lesson.

    Its a shame that Congi has not given them their due share of representation.Siddaramaiah, Parameshwar and 'Prince' Rahul will have a lot of answering to do.

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  • Tony Pinto, Manglore - Dubai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    This time Christian's should vote for AAP.....Congress is already out from RACE Only left is Kejriwal he has the guts to fight with modi so vote for AAP - 2014.

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  • jacintha, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    All those seeking truth and justice, should vote for AAP. Well, they have no experience, but every beginner has no experience. Congress or BJP or anyone else, did not have experience to begin with. When they have the insecurity while governing, they will be careful and will act on feedback. Congress and all others are thick skinned.

    We can't have a dictator for a PM right?

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  • Rosario Fernandes, Kallianpur

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    99% 0f the Christian community are educated. We can live with high esteem without government's grants. We do not beg or depend on reservations like other minorities.
    We don't care, we know how to live and not at the mercy of others like..........?

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  • Alok, Bengaluru

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    The Christian community should come out of the shadow of congress. They must be bold enough to get into the Indian political system on their own. The religious leaders of this community are not interested in the growth of layman leadership. There are plenty of opportunities in any other political parties. It is right time to give up all political parties that treat them as vote bank. The AAP party has shown that it is above caste, religious and anti-corruption. Go boldly and openly support them and expect any kind of natural justice.

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  • Roshan, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    The Christian community in general is one such community that expects very least from the Govt. All they want is peace, justice and rule of law. Many calling themselves community leaders need some political clout. Thatz all.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    The blame for this neglect goes exclusively to the Karnataka State unit of the Congress. This neglect must be brought to the notice of the Congress Central leadership and they must take corrective action asap and no repeat of this in the future must be ensured by the Congress Central leadership. Otherwise the state unit of the Congress will have a big price to pay in terms of Christian votes.
    Having said this if Christians from the state are looking for alternatives they must ENSURE supporting only SECULAR MINDED parties. AAP can be considered as an option.

    BJP or any RSS related party or candidate must be kept at a big, big distance away.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Very true Roshan the Christians expect very little from the government. It is only for this reason, i.e. 'peace, justice, rule of law' which I will modify to read as 'communal peace, communal-free justice and communal-free rule of law' that the Christians will still vote for the Congress because though they may not gain any favours from the Congress at least they can hope for a society free from communal tension or attacks.

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  • jeetendra hegde, mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Good decision and you too, learned to blackmail like others..keep away from voting and help a strong alternative party to come to power in.... centre

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  • JOY CASTELINO, MOODUBELLE/DUBAI

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Finally, at least some Christian leaders came to know that all these years, Congress party using Christians just for vote Bank!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Rajesh Shetty, Mlore Shj

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Valerian further says the community has been taken for a royal ride by the Congress all these years. “It is a year since the Congress came back to power in Karnataka. In fact the BJP government started the Christian Development Council and allocated suitable funds for it. The NDA government also brought amendments to the Succession Act that benefitted the community. But the Congress is refusing to consider even our basic and genuine demands and it is hurting”, he d.

    READ GUYS, ESPECIALLY SOME BLIND CORRUPT PARTY SUPPORTORS. BJP GOVT HAS BEEN DOING THE PROGRESSIVE WORKS SAILENTLY THAN GOIN TAMTAM ABOUT IT LIKE CONGRESS, WHO ONLY TALK ABOUT CASTE BASED RESERVATION DURING ELECTION TIME. ONCE GETTING ELECTED, THEY DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT THEM UNTILL NEXT ELECTIONS. I HOPE YOU GUYS WAKE UP THIS TIME THAN PRETENDING TO BE SLEEPING AND FALLING FOR CONGRESS VOTEBANK POLITICS.ATLEAST YOU ARE A LITTERATE AND WELL QUALIFIED SOCIETY THAN SOME OTHERS AND YOU KNOW AND SEE WHATS HAPPENING IN AND AROUND. ITS ONLY CONGRESS WHO WANT TO DIVIDE AND RULE THE SOCIETY.

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  • Rakesh shetty, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014


    MY PREDICTION THIS TIME IS: BJP WILL LEAD IN CENTRAL.

    THERE IS ONLY ONE CHANCE FOR CONGRESS ONLY IF ALL PARTIES COULD HAVE MERGE WITH CONGRESS. THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN DREAM ALSO.

    NEXT ELECTION BJP WILL LEAD IN STATE.JAI HO.

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  • SUNIL, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    If people are against congress......does not mean the only other option is BJP(Brasta Janara Party)...don't jump into conclusion my dear, there are so many options.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Well said Sunil. In fact, for most Christians in India I believe the BJP or Sangh related parties are not even considered as options. Especially with a Modi led BJP.

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  • sid, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    very smart move , right time to twist some arms. The Christian community will always support dongi congis no matter who the candidate is

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  • Vincent Rodrigues, Katapadi/Bangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Christians need to unite and all need to support Congress party who really takes care of minorities in every respect.Not giving representation to Christians in the parliamentary election is wrong.Please bring this fact to the notice of people responsible and get an assurance that this will not be repeated again.But never averse against the party because we need to safeguard our interests.All the best.Thanq.

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  • Krishnaraj Salian, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    This is Gimmick to get more remuneration and control the congress party. They must first tell how much money devoted to Christians, muslims and Hindus in this State Budget.
    84% of Hindu Population got 40 crore,
    11% muslim population got 250 crore,
    3% Christian population got 180 crores... But not satisfied..

    What about Hindus... Never ever learn a lesson from this Dongi Congress Agenda of Dividing this People...

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  • Indian, udupi

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    May i know krishnaraj how u came to know that christian got 180 cr.
    for just commenting .........it is not true...

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  • Krishnaraj Salian, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Please read the State Budget Dear... Nothing wrong in Reading...

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  • Alex , Bangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Not to worry. This time all Christians Should try to vote AAP. Even though there is hardly any representation to Christians even in AAP, I am confident once it is stabilized, the good/right christian candidate will surely get a chance

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  • Denzil, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    We can indeed have an impact when we deliver and perform with every little opportunity that is given to us. We need to deliver as leaders from the scratch and not always aspire or wait for tickets to assembly or parliament. Mr. Lobo MLA, you have, this task on hand now and mark my words, opportunities will flood in.

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    This is the ultimate truth and real ground reality that BJP is the best suited party for the minority community.I am not a die hard supporter of BJP or Congress either.I like people on their qualities.BJP is the first paty to extend friendly attitude towards minority community, especially Christian and Muslims during the previous Govt in the state.BJP has formed the CDC and alloted 100 crores by Yedyurappa and DVS together.Huz Ghar is initiated by BJP govt again alloting 100 croes for the cause.perhaps no other state govt has done this much in the past.This contribution by BJP is inspite of hostale attitude by these groups towards BJP.BJP has done this not because of gaining these votes

    The attitude was in its heart.I wish to state that Konkanis(GSBs) are generally BJP supporters for several years but never sided with communal attitude,that is why this community has excellent ties with both Christians as well as Muslims.Previous governing body of Karnataka Konkani Sahithya Acadamy under the leadership of Kasaragod Chinna is a live example of this theory of co-existance with mutual respects.It has done tremendous work involving all Konkani speaking people from Christians/Muslims and others
    through out the state.Though GSBs conform a formidable support base in the state for BJP,inspite of Yogish Bhat was MLA for 4 times he never got a chance of ministership in Kumaraswamys or Yedyurappas regime.Inspite of this still these people have not shown any dissent treating the issue as political.I only request the Christian people to come forward and join the mainstream whole heartedly and support for the changed atmosphere in the country for the good of the community as well as society.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Christian Candidates can never win elections because they are not FEKUS...

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    What about Sonia Gandhi and Christian MPs?

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  • vinay, mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Bcoz they are fekus....

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    You mean SOGA and RAGA are Fekus!!!

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  • India First, India

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Please support BJP!! We are not communal. Its only few religious extremist like Mutalik spoiled our party's image. Please dont forget Mr. George Fernandes a top leader & he was a minister in NDA cabinet.

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Just consider and read this in
    today's Udayavani....Statement by Oscar.....
    'You cannot even shake our (Congress!) Tail'....!
    After reading this development Oscar's everything, including the 'Solid Tail' must be shaking!
    O! Mujhe Devaa!!

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dear Bhandumam,Oscarale manathu assile kassale mollari...thagele baal hallochak kanakayi zaayina monu.....Thagele baal kanche monu leklaa..?Thageli yajmaani Blassom! kheyin gellariyi thagele makshee yetta nave?.....thassi baal mallari teeee.....

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Thashee Zalyaar Theyn 'Baal' naive??
    Kasale Karm maharaayaa??

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  • jeetendra hegde, mumbai

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Does congress become monkey & co,to have tail?

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  • Ashok, Mangalore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Dongi congress got rubber stamp leaders like Oscar who is coming to cut the ribbon along with his wife. I have never seen him speaking in the parliament . This time Christians should see an eligible candidate in their region and vote. Congress shouldn't think Christians are their vote bank

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  • steven, Sharjah

    Thu, Mar 27 2014

    No need to blow the trumpet. Vote your Modi for a change!!

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  • flavian dsouza, chik/banaglore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    dont worry we are not selfish for power and not go to any extent to grab power ..i am sure we will get the right representation at the right time ...

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  • praveen, puttur

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    who given the right to Bharatiya Christa Okkoota to decide to vote cong or BJP ??? I am in borivali and will vote for Gopal Shetty of BJP (not Modi) because he is from Mangalore.

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  • John Tauro, M'lore / Kwt

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Praveen, Puttur,
    Your decision is appreciated! I am too not all in favour of any communal organization deciding to whom should their members vote. Such acts will divide instead of uniting the society. Voting should be matter of individual choice.

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  • R.Bhandarkar, M'lore

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    See...I am pasting my earlier comment for a 'related article' in this connection ,once again.
    "IFKCA and FKCA, I am not sure which, had protested when Sonia was shown as Mother Mary and Arvind as Infant Jesus much earlier...
    I thought the 'agenda' was all wrong at that time and I am vindicated.
    Christians are very beautiful and intelligent...ladies only but.. ,like in case of all communities.The other half is half 'tube light' as always"!!!
    The idea is to get the preferences right. When you have leaders like Madam Alva ,what were you doing?
    Protesting for the wrong reasons?
    Miffed too late ...I think! Huffing, Fuming ,etc etc should have been done much earlier...
    Juliet Mai- YehnKaalen??

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  • Langoolacharya, Belman/Washington,DC

    Wed, Mar 26 2014

    Margaret Alva should be happy its RV Deshpande's son will be defeated in Karwar not her own son...blessing in disguise for her...

    ...JH...

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