Udupi: Pejawar Swamiji challenges government to take over church administration


Udupi: Pejawar Swamiji challenges government to take over church administration

Daijiworld Media Network – Udupi (SP)

Udupi, Jun 12: Sri Vishweshateertha Swamiji of Pejawar Math reiterated that the government is not in order in interfering with the administration of Sri Krishna Math. He said his stand is in tune with a Supreme Court judgment. He also challenged the government, which claims itself to be secular, to also interfere with the administration of churches, if it proposes to have its say in the administration of Maths.

Addressing a press conference here on Tuesday June 11, he clarified that talking of taking over Sri Krishna Math alone, leaving aside the other Maths and temples untouched, defies the norm of social justice. “The Supreme Court had come to the conclusion that Sri Krishna Math is a Math for the spiritual Gurus here, whereas for the general public, it happens to be a temple. It had held that this is a temple-cum-Math complex,” he explained.

Clarifying his stand over the controversy surrounding the earlier statement attributed to the chief minister (CM)about taking over the Math administration, he said he did not talk to the CM as the latter has clarified his stand that he had never meant to take over the Math.

He recalled that the order appointing administrative officer to the Math by the then Madras government in 1951 had been annulled by the court. He clarified that heads of Maths are barred from working as government servants or for money.

“The misconception about the Math has got it roots in the purposeful mistake committed by an official, who demanded bribe, in including the Math in the list of notified temples. This mistake was committed during the period S M Krishna. This mistake, which was committed with malicious intention, was rectified during the reign of Yeddyurappa,” he stated. He clarified that there the question of fresh denotification of the Match does not arise.

“The heads of the Maths here are not lured by monetary gains or collections. The money which gets accumulated here gets used for the society. During my four Paryaya terms, my Math had to raise loans, rather than saving anything,” the Swamiji said. He added that in the past, he had suggested for subjecting the accounts of the Maths to auditing, and also preparation of annual budgets, but that these suggestions had faced opposition. He therefore said he does not want to comment about the administration or expenses relating to other Maths.

The other points elaborated by the Swamiji were that the practice of serving the Brahmins separately had started during Dwapara Yuga, when the food habits of Brahmins underwent a chang. He insisted that caste was never a reason for this development, and that it would be wrong to blame Brahmins for it. Sri Krishna Math follows the practice of not turning away devotees with empty stomach, he added.

  

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  • Adv. Harry D'Souza, Kolachikambla, Mulki, Dahisar

    Fri, Jun 14 2013

    All the religious leaders think that they are shepherd and their followers are sheep. But one should think that the shepherd sending his flock to butcher for flesh.

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  • S.K.S.Shetty, Kaup/Dubai

    Fri, Jun 14 2013

    The CM and the congress party should also put churches and Mosques under government control. That would be secular.

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  • A.M Shaikh, Dubai, Belapu,Kaup

    Fri, Jun 14 2013

    Mr.Shetty, Mosques no need to control any Government or CM, if some richest want to build a mosque Allah looking for his heart, he is spent even a single stone which is Halal or Haram, if that's from bribe or smuggle that's not acceptable, That's called a Mosque, some sense less, mindless, and uneducated with their thief leaders thought if we through a stone or attack mosques means Muslim hurt. that's absolutely wrong my dear friend, Muslims have a permission to pray 5 times at his home, instead of Mosque, doesn't matter, but some one controlling mosques never, that's house of Allah, he will control himself. Muslim community have a power to control Mosques, and Christians have power to control and save Churches, but you go behind the corruption not even secularization.

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  • S.M.S.Shetty, Kaup/Dubai

    Sat, Jun 15 2013

    Sir,You have your reason to defend the Mosque and Churches and I have my reasons. The Temples have been there in India for thousands of years and have been managed by the private endowments very well. The congress party since its inception in 1947 has been trying to loot the wealth of temples under the banner of secularism. The congress party has been trying to divide and rule based on religion and caste and accuse BJP as communal.

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  • Adv. Harry D'Souza, Kolachikambla, Mulki, Dahisar

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Those religious leaders who play politics let them contest the election and see how much votes they get?.

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  • Deepak, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Very simple, do not give any contributions to Temples, Churches, Masjids or any other worship places. Put big namaskar to God and thank him and say Appa Kapadappa. Automatically in coming years all will merge as one and comes under Begging Administration.

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  • Ganesh, mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    nobody bigger than Court.

    court decision is final.

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  • Aloka Nath, Bengaluru

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    When Kukke Subramanya temple is in govt hands and is doing very well with responsible trustees and the richest in karnataka, why not any other temple or church or mosque. Why should swamiji challenge govt to take over any church, what is the connection.

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  • P.A.SHANU, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    HUMAN ACTS CHILDISH AS THEY GROW OLD.SWAMI OR PRIESTS NOT EXCEPTED.

    None of the Temples, Churches , Mosques and the conductors of annual pooja , prayers at public places never willing to submit their accounts.
    People contributing their money thinking it will be reaching God but GOD ONLY knows where it reaches.
    It will be very much hurting if someone try to snatch someones source of income.

    WELL DONE SWAMIJI

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  • Nawaz, udupi, Abu Dhabi

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Why call muslims, christians, sikhs minority. Why are we being discriminated, are we all not Indians??? Difference of opinion is bound to happen in any civil society but that should not divide us on caste system. Luckily Sonia Gandhi is not CM of Karnataka, else our friends in BJP would have..... Swamiji is again trying to uphold Brahmins status as A

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  • praveen lobo, mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    swamiji you right. if krishna math is going under govt. why not church ?

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Nawaz, after independence Brahmins lossed A grade, now they are in Z catogory..they are in General bogey of secular train, where they have to fight for college seat to jobs on merit only..we OBC,SC/ST,Minorities have created our self short cuts on religion/caste to get seat,jobs,election ticket,minister berth so on..Economically/politically Brahmins are left behind (particularly in karnatka).. Brahmin may be ready to leave cast system but we wont..

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  • KRPrabhu, Kudla/Bangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Then why the common civil code is opposed by the so called minorities? They themselves do not wish to be treated as equals with majority community and always stand seperate.

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  • RJ, Kallianpur

    Fri, Jun 14 2013

    Why they are begging votes from minorities?.

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  • Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    excellent, well said Sharath, Kasaragod
    even i heard, devotees not willing to put kanike to goverment sealed boxes kept for collection @ temples instead giving willfully to priests and donating items to temples..afterall it public devotees wish.. government cannot enforce

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mapusa

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Are you also taking orders from RSS.....

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  • ravi shetty, mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Jossey Saldanha, Mapusa

    He is speaking on behalf of the majority community so ther is no need to take orders from RSS.

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  • Sharath, Kasaragod

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Well said
    Tomas Richard, One more thing is govt should take the control of all the temples If they want to take(Including Church and Mosque). its not like the temples which yield money they take it under control. There are lot of temples in my place which even struggles for its existence and govt is not even considering it. they don't dare take the control over Mosque n Church. Why only Temples..? Does it mean that hindu's does not have any freedom in India..?At least to own their Place of worship...? really disappointing...!!Why does govt even think of taking control over the Math..? they don't even have rights for that

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  • Ayes P., Mangalore/KSA

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Swamji should not ignite such things between the communities, He can fight with the government/Supreme court on behalf of mutts/Hinduism but igniting to some other communities/religion it is not good for him. Religious people should always away from Politics and vise-versa

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  • Anand, karkala/Dubai

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Pejawar Swameeji,
    If the Government taken over Church administration, would you allow Krishna Mutt?

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  • R Muralidharan, cochin

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Siddahramaih has no guts to take over Church administration, hw would be kicked out by Sonia, & George will be made CM

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  • Rakesh, Udupi

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Logically point is correct. If goverment wants to take over administration of temples(Maths), Then they need to take over administration of all other religious institutions also. not only church .. To be fair enough

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  • Tomas Richard, Udupi

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Swamiji is right in his statement, govt should not interfere in running temples or churches...Hindus will definitely ask this question...Even Haj subsidy should be stopped...As i understand majority of Muslims dont want subsidy in performing their sacred act...Congress govt should know what is the meaning of secularism, it is not appeasing minorities or degrading majority...

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  • Budla, Kudla

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Hats off for your thinking....

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  • Naufal, Ahmed

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Govt already reversed the order.why swamiji igniting this issue.Religious scholars should restrict themselves to religious purpose only.otherwise they will lose their respect in public.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mapusa

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Wise people should not poke their nose in other peoples RELIGION....

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  • RR, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Wise people also should not comment about other religious matters!

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Jossey..if you look at comments & dislikes, every one is poking nose on everybodies religion..what is wrong in swamijis statement??..if 3600 temples taken over by Govt for Good, then why can't Churches & Masjids for good..there will not be infighting in administratin & murders (remember banglore incident) and there will not be fighting between AK, PK group for Madarasa text books..we can altogether beat secular drum..dum dum..

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  • nagesh nayaka, bangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    where are those so called secularists hiding.

    if siddu & italian led congress has real guts to run a government let him/them take over churches & mosques under government control.

    preaching secularism and practising communalism is in the blood viens of congi leaders.

    congi's are ready to favourism to a minotirities at the cost of our beautiful nation & hinduism for the sake of few votes to win.

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  • Anand, karkala/Dubai

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Duplicate

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  • Rosario Fernandes, Kallianpur

    Sat, Jun 15 2013

    Hello Naggu mama, I have been searching for you these days. I thought you vanished with BJP.
    You still have hatred for Italy and Italians.? I feel sorry for you. Get well soon.!!

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  • Rosario Fernandes, Kallianpur

    Sat, Jun 15 2013

    Mama, come out of Hindutwa dominating policy, you will win the world. I don't say you don't follow it. Please go ahead, its your personal life, but do not completely rely on it. It may work only in India. But there is a word called 'world' beyond India which is equally important. 'Amchi Mati Amchi Manche' sounds very selfish.
    Relax, open your mind and oath only for reality, facts and truth.
    All the best.

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  • Bharathi, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Why the government started the issue once and then reversed it.People want to give tit for tat if religious issues are raised.Probably Pejavar swamiji wants to test the secularism of congress which they claim.

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  • ravi shetty, mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Very well said swamiji really appricate your stance on this matter. for the congress hindus are soft targets and they always want to appease the minorities.

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  • srikanth, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    very well writen avi shetty, mangalore, don't be worried for you got more than 35 dislikes. It is a fact that Truth hurts the most when it is hit at the right direction. and this is an example.

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  • srikanth, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Well Check the no.of Disagree i got too :P. Remember you cannot entertain everyone and that's democracy and freedom of speech for us.

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  • ravi shetty, mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    srikanth, Mangalore

    I dont care how many likes & dislikes i get. I comment not for publicity purpose but for what is the fact & truth. anway you keep counting the likes & dislikes.

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  • srikanth, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Agree and Disagree were just an example given to you. I hope you are mature enough to understand what I meant. If not leave it!

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  • Ravi Shetty, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    The Swami of late seems to have become a politician. He should restrict himself to the Temple administration and the spiritual needs of the devotees only.

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  • Ravi Kotian, Padubidri

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    The Catholic Church throughout the world is governed by the Vatican.

    The Swami may have meant the 'New Life' Church.

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  • Aam Admi, Mumbai

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    These are old age murmurs like Bhishma on bed of arrows.Mudhi branthu

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  • Anthony Lobo, Mangalore

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    I agree Swameeji with your view but why are you supporting particular political party if you are restricted to perform duties in the Math. Practice what you preach.

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  • Wilfred J Lewis , Matpady-Brahmavar/ New York, USA

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    In any democratic society, the government is elected for a certain time duration to take care of the country/ state. The government does not have any role in it's people's faith. Therefore the government is not a party to any religion and cannot interfere in faith based institutes...

    The involvement of government in religion by erstwhile SOVIET UNION has proved to be totally wrong and end results are disastrous. Because of Soviet Union policies of involvement in peoples life and faith, Soviet system collapsed, the Soviet Union supported countries faced poverty, social injustice, abuse of power, and so many negative factors even today, without proper law and order...

    Indian Congress party supported Soviet system and their bad policies for more than two decades and was a close ally of Soviet's failed policies. The Congress party is used to communism and control of everything as they were friends of Soviet Union. Congress party cannot come out of their old habits and old friendship.

    Before the current CM revive failed Soviet Communist Policies and creating uncertainties in the State, the Congress High Command shout replace the current CM with a progressive, development oriented, non controversial CM.

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  • Reema Shetty, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Hats off Swamiji..But just ignore that Saraayi Siddu...he doesn't dare to touch our temple.

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  • Abdulla, india

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    The temples should have Gurukulas- teach Sanskrit &yoga-prayer and healing.
    There will be million sof students and foreigners will join this movement.
    The temple hasto preach LOVE -PEACE AND TRANQUILITY and Peace to all. religions.
    children/students should learn the art of Yoga -mind and soul to be in tune and spiritual bliss and for harmony and peace to mankind.
    World is getting to be very materialistic society.
    so we need to put them in slow mode- more spiritual and God fearing-law abiding.
    In fact temples shouldnt accept ill gotten-stolen- money from crimes/scams -/bribery..
    The money collected should be used as collateral for Building hospitals-schools-colleges- rehabilitation - Mass marriages -generate employment- ex: co-operative industries and self employment and cottage escale industries for women.
    we have good example from Dr. Virendra Hegde from Dharmasthala.
    also Devi Amma in kerala.
    Let the money ( a commodity)grow by putting it to right use and not just blocking and wasting while millions can benefit and Economy could grow.

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  • Vincent Rodrigues, Katapadi/Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Pejawar Swamiji is black mailing the government to take over church administration if they take over Udupi Math.The Government know what to do and it will act accordingly.Why we to worry and sugeest things what they have to do.Thanq.

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  • samuel sadanand, balmatta/kuwait

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    let swami concentrate on temple or matt issue.its none of his business to discuss about other religions.

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  • Dev Sagar, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    WITH DUE RESPECT TO PEJAWAR SWAMIJI, IT DOES NOT REFLECT WELL ON HIM INDULGING IN TOO MUCH OF POLITICS AND TOO MUCH OF CONTROVERSIES. IT IS BETTER HE REFRAIN FROM SUBJECTS WHICH ARE TOTALLY OUTSIDE HIS JURISDICTION. HE IS A RELIGIOUS LEADER OF A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY AND LET HIM CONCENTRATE ON THE SAME WHOLE HEARTEDLY RATHER THAN POKING HIS NOSE IN UNWANTED CONTROVERSIES.

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  • P S Shetty, MANGALORE

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Please do not confuse between TEMPLE and MATHA.
    Udupi Sri Krishna Temple and Udupi Matha are two distinct properties.
    Sri Krishna Temple existed even in 8th Century BC, that is even prior to Shankaraacharya, whereas Udupi Matha was founded in 13th Century by Madhwacharya while he founded new Sect called Madhvaa Pantha. So how a New Caste can own an old temple which existed 400 years prior to Madhwacharya ?
    Now our Chief Minister is talking about only taking over Sri Krishna Temple alone and not Sri Krishna Matha also called as Ashta Matha.
    Right from 8th century the Sri Krishna Temple belonged to Public (Saarvajanika), so how it can become the Private property of a small Sect 400 years later during Madhwacharya's time ?

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  • Vivek, Udupi

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Very cheap shot by Swamiji. SCARED TO MENTION MOSQUE OR GURUDWARA. Even he knows minority christians are the easy target.

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  • ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    The stand off between Siddu and his community with Udupi Krishna math is not anew.In fact,before election and more than one occasion this issue was subject of Siddu.I think Pejavar Swamiji might be foreseen a eminent notification on this regard.Mr BJPoojari in fact,batted for status Que but Siddu might amused by the statement!Gokarna Temple was d-notified recently by then CM BSY and both these religious places are likely to be notified either before LS election or after.(Chances are more after LS election)

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  • Vinay Shetty, Manipal/Dubai

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Ismail, You are one of few Sane voice on this forum,who talks with some facts. You may like Congress as much as I like BJP but thats OK.. Keep Going :-)

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  • ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

    Thu, Jun 13 2013

    Dear Vinay Shetty,Manipal/Dubai..

    Thanks for the compliments...

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  • Gurudath, M'lore/Mumbai

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Swamiji is saying that because Government actually wants to take over the math but for the moment has decided not to fearing big backlash.

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  • KRPrabhu, Kudla/Bangalore

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Vatteri vattale vaagha...maka yevunu khaaga.....

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  • Roshan, Abu Dhabi

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Pejawar Swamiji "serving brahmins started in dwapara yuga" why can't you change it in this KALI YUGA???? cast system in hindu community is still exist and lower casts still discriminated. You keep your house clean and advice others.... Sriman Siddaramaihji is not new politician he knows to take right decision

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  • Reshmi Salian, Mangalore

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Government of Karnataka has made it's stand clear and it is not taking over Shri Krishna Matt. Why Swamiji is raking up this issue now?

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  • Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    It is my doubt too..Why is swamiji unfolding closed chapter? My opinion is not to talk about closed chapter.It will invite problems only.For eg: Ask Sreeshant,he unnecessarily raised Bhajji's slap incident after 5 years ! He was attacked from all the corners ! He lost sympathy vote too from his close fans..

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  • vasant raj, mangalore / Abudhabi

    Wed, Jun 12 2013

    Swameeji Please keep quiet, un-necessarily why to create problem. Government already told they don't take over Udupi Mata..

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