Puttur: Religious conversion attempt - Four women handed over to police


Daijiworld Media Network – Puttur (SP)

Puttur, Aug 14: Four women, who had visited a house in Pulittadi near Uppinangady in the taluk were handed over to police by villagers, who alleged that the visitors were exerting pressure on the family to get converted to their religion.

The women, who are said to be from Golittottu, had visited a family, which belongs to another religion, in the village.

Several villagers rushed to the spot, accused the women of trying to influence the family members for religious conversion, and laid siege to the house. They then passed on information to the police.

Uppinangady police rushed to the spot and took the women into custody. Suresh Atramajalu, a local panchayat member, accused the women of visiting several houses in Pulittadi, distributing pamphlets relating to their religion, and trying to abet religious conversions. The names of the accused have been given as Shirley, Mini, Leelamma, and Shubha.

It is learnt that the policemen released the women later, after getting bonds executed by them.

  

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 20 2014

    Dear sam, world,

    For Atheists the following is only suitable because either they believe not in themselves neither they perceive not what is God nor wanted to seek the kingdom of God.

    Are the chimpanzees bother for anything except their food?

    Your responses are like the following proverbs which suits well to them.

    1) Kounana Mundhe Kinneri Baarisidha haage.

    2) Pouring water on the Rock.

    3) For the blind elephant was shown.
    4) Adige biddhaaroo moogu meile.

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Aug 18 2014

    @Prabhu - The Bible is the word of God Prabhu - you either accept it or you don't. The Bible is also a book with historical accounts and filled with prophecy. My reply was in response to your comment on writings and authorship of the Bible. The prophets under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote down those words. Surely you cant expect the prophets to write them in modern diction! They were written centuries ago before you and I were born. Regarding Ezekiel 23, I found your response very surprising. If you think people did not commit adultery, steal, murder, etc. centuries ago then you are in for a surprise. Every evil you can think of has been recorded in the Bible and truly there is nothing new under the sun. If you were aghast reading it, then your response is correct. Living in sin is not something to be proud about. Rather, one must think twice before committing evil because there is a heavy price that one will pay (personal, societal, psychological, etc.). Yahweh is not a chocolate God. He is a God of Love and Truth and is ever Merciful. Mercy requires Justice and a Just God has to punish wickedness and evil otherwise Justice has no meaning. When we as human beings seek love, truth, justice, mercy in our own lives, why would we love and worship and unjust God who is untrue and lies to us?

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Mon, Aug 18 2014

    Sam, you mean to say it contains the word of god !
    Not a chocolate god ...but
    A jealous god ,
    Vengeance is mine god
    Innocent children god ???
    Wrath of god
    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Aug 18 2014

    @Prabhu - The Bible IS the word of God. It IS NOT containing the word of God. Yahweh is a jealous God, but you have to understand what this means. Doesn't a parent love their child with zeal? What is it about the child that makes the parent love the child with zeal, if it is only a biological product? This might help you understand why God says he is jealous. When a child is hurt and beaten by a brute, how does the parent feel? Does the parent want justice and punishment or will the parents clap their hands in admiration? This might help you understand why God says he will avenge the wrongs. When the child disobeys the parent, does the parent encourage the child to be more bold and adventurous and give the child a prize? This might help you understand God's wrath. When one begins to see that humans are created in the "image of God", many aspects regarding the nature of God unravel. You quoted Epicurus a great philosopher. Sir, can you tell me can love exist without choice or not? This might help in discussing Epicurus claims.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Mon, Aug 18 2014

    In regard to Eziekel my comments are grevience is still clear....
    If it's the word of god then Eziekel says The Lord told him to write and he wrote ....such filth..?
    And you believe god would dictate this...
    That's what worries me that by believing this you yourself god in your esteem for god would not and cannot utter such blasfamy..and filth.
    To think people swear on it !!!

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Mon, Aug 18 2014

    correction/addition to above ...........
    That's what worries me that by believing this you yourself lower your god in your esteem, for god, would not and cannot utter such blasfamy..and filth.

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  • sam, world

    Mon, Aug 18 2014

    @Prabhu - It would help me understand why you consider the book of Ezekiel as "filth". Perhaps this originates from your belief? Are you a Hindu/Muslim? I did mention to you in my previous responses that everything written in the Bible is for a reason. The Bible is not just a Holy Book, it is also a historical text. Many sinful actions and wicked deeds are not to be admired at all. Look around in society and see if we have improved any bit since the time these words in Ezekiel were written. Why is this the case? How is it that we seem to repeat the same evils committed by our ancestors? What would be your answer?

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  • sam, world

    Sun, Aug 17 2014

    @Prabhu - If you have done some study on the Bible, you must understand this is an ancient book and it is not a modern book. The way books were written in the ancient times are not the same as they are written today. You have to take into consideration the times, places and cultures when you look at ancient documents. Tradition is intrinsic to most belief systems including Christianity. Tradition is even practised today. For example, do we not quote sayings from people historically in our writings? How can we be sure the quotes are genuine? When the early church had already accepted the Gospels and various letters and epistles as legitimate writings, one cannot wake up 2000 years later and say something otherwise. This is similar to saying Mahatma Gandhi was not shot by Nathuram Godse in 3948 (2000 years after the assassination in 1948). I am surprised by your concern on Ezekiel. When you read daily newspaper and hear of the horror and atrocities around the world, do you feel those articles must never be written? History has been recorded in the Bible not for amusement, but for a reason. Time and time again throughout the Bible God keeps telling the people to repent. Do people repent? Why not? Can you answer why man continues to be wicked and pursue evil deeds?

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Sun, Aug 17 2014

    Thanks for agreeing it's not the word of god. your other explanations don't augment for words used by god or shall we say unrepeatable ,readable etc.
    Today we have censors but this ?

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  • Prashant , Karkal

    Sat, Aug 16 2014

    At the first instance is it necessary that a group of people should visit someone's house requesting/urging to accept/follow their religion? Is it wise to do so? Did any one invite these ladies to Hindus house to preach their religion? Is it necessary to advertise someone's religion i.e. in what way it is good/beneficial if followed and also under false pretext show other religion as worse?

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Sat, Aug 16 2014

    Dear KRPrabhuji, Bangalore

    TELL ME NOW:
    1) Whole of BJP’s was happy with chaaiwaala as they were earning for their lively hood.

    2) What is the wrong in I am calling a Chaaiwaala Prime Minister – Is this hatred, venom & zealous.

    3) Your favorite Vajpayee went to Gujarat to assess atrocities committed against Christians, saw in his own eyes,issued a positive statement saying Yes, there were atrocities committed against Christians. Came to Delhi succumbed to RSS pressure & said there were no atrocities committed against Christians. Ask any Christians in Gujarat what he has done to them & you will know the truth. – Is this hatred, venom & zealous.

    4) If the Chaaiwaala Prime Minister is truthful what is the obstacles in appointing an Neutral Lokayukta?! And you can imagine what would be the corruption volume without lokayukta - Is this hatred, venom & zealous

    5) Modi couldn’t make reconciliation with his own wife & divorced. Now he says Jeshodhaben is his wife - Is this hatred, venom & zealous

    6) Modi took oath as chief minister to preserve the constitution of the nation. And he gave all the constitutional laws into the hands of Goondas, thugs, looters and murderers - Is this hatred, venom & zealous

    7) Amit Shah conducted encounter against Hiren Pandya as he was about to give witness against Modi for 2000 riots & he was killed through encounters - Is this hatred, venom & zealous.
    Through the Holy Bible we are asked to follow ten commandments & we are bound to that – Advantage is taken by the fundamental Hindus.

    As Bollu says Moid is saint figure attained purity from Himalayas.

    Sachidananda Mundkur says modi is non-corrupt purest & without black spots.

    Perhaps all these may be true for you & not for me.

    ONE MORE RESPONDED TO YOU, IS AN ATHEIST. THEY HAVE A MIND TO CRITICIZE THE CHILDREN OF GOD. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD. THEY ARE THE CHILDREN OF CHIMPANZEES.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Sun, Aug 17 2014

    Your book says " to seek the kingdom you have to be a little child....every human is a BORN ATHEIST, even you until religion is thrust upon them .
    A CHILD HAS NO RELIGION
    That's why your Limbo has gone to limbo !
    Check and see

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Tue, Aug 19 2014

    The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob has no religion and Jesus has never made any religion. It is the Atheist made it.

    How come a child is born an atheist.

    The atheist name itself came into existence because of God's existence. Without God there are no atheists.

    Supposedly God was not there have you been calling yourself an atheist. Never.

    We are the children of God and not the children of Chimpanzees.

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    @JOHN R LOBO - Salvation is the free gift by God that occurs by grace through faith - see Ephesians 2:8-9. However as a christian, you must also practice good deeds - see James 2:14-26. Salvation of the soul does not occur simply by doing good deeds in society. While that may make the person a better human being, it does not assure salvation. A christian must live by faith and deeds - one cannot survive without the other.

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    @HENRY MISQUITH - You said "I don't know why people believe in changing religions & conversion by force or willingly". Henry, do you believe people are born free or live as slaves? Can people choose to become 'engineers', 'doctors', etc. or is there a restriction? Would you still hold your view for people who choose such decisions willingly as "I believe these people are not in good frame of mind, these type of people are always confused,
    being"?

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    @Prabhu - I do not know why you mentioned Ezekiel 23 or Song of Solomon. But if you read the Bible, at many places describes man's sinful actions and the consequences for living in sin. The God of the Bible is a being of love. Love and sin do not intermingle and a being of love would do his utmost to help people stay away from sinful activities. Think for a moment, why would God keep sending prophets to the people? Is God inept? Certainly not! Biblically no human can see God directly in their sinful state, else they will die. This is why God keeps sending messengers to bring his people back to him. Keeping religious differences and man's sinful actions aside for a moment, why are there so many sadhus, mulla's, priests, etc. asking people to turn to God? Is it mere coincidence? All religious beliefs recognize that man needs God and must love their fellow human being. Even an atheist who does not believe in God understands that love of a fellow human being is important for society.

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    @Prabhu - The Church not only goes by written documents but also by tradition. It is unwise to come 2000 years later and say these words were added later. However if we are to go by your concern regarding Mark 16: 9-20, you must know that the teachings of Jesus are also recorded in other gospels. Thus even if we are to exclude Mark 16: 9-20 for the sake of discussion, it will not affect Jesus' teachings at all.

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    @AP - Sir, every religion has the right to state its views and beliefs. It is the people who have to decide if they want to believe in a particular belief system or not. If we are to apply your logic to another belief system that is equally important i.e. political party and the governance of the nation, would your views on booking them under Goonda Act be the same? For example, members of the BJP, Congress, etc. always try to "convert" the public to their belief system. Aren't they also creating disharmony in the public? Shouldn't we also book them under the Goonda Act?

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  • sam, world

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    @Prabhu - Each of your points have been refuted by many distinguished scholars. But let me respond to one - you mentioned Jesus Seminar. Are you aware that the people who started this seminar had a prior assumption that the Bible was not the word of God? Keep in mind that none of the people from Jesus Seminar lived during the Apostolic Age. By democratic consensus they picked and chose verses they "thought" were spoken by Jesus and thus disqualified the Bible. Is this logic correct? If something similar is done with the Vedas, would the Hindus accept? If your starting assumption is that the Bible is not the word of God, will it be any surprise that the end conclusion is that the Bible is not the word of God? Sir, the Apostles cannot come back and respond to the "modern" objections. However God is not to be mocked. God has left enough evidence for Christians to respond. History and tradition are interlinked with Christianity. The words of the apostles, the early church fathers and the believers thereafter confirm the Bible. The decision of believing or disbelieving in the Bible rests on the person who reads it.

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  • prabhu, Blore

    Sat, Aug 16 2014

    You talk of Apostolic age.....
    When was the bible written and by whom....
    Now don't refer bible for this it's wrong, don't take advice like you are doing study fer yourself you will come to. Know gospels are annonymous where does your age of Apostels fit in......see index or jerrommes recommend by your pope not me.
    Regarding Eziekel will any god dictate thus!

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  • AP, Bangalore

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    These people who try to convert and create disharmony among the religions should be booked under Goonda Act.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    Reading the bible is one thing
    Researching it is another...
    How many have taken the trouble to go through texts cross check them if authentic, added,copied, altered, or d.
    A good book to start with is JERROMES biblical COMMENTRY written by over 100 eminent scholars of the Catholic Church and IMPREMATURE by 2 popes.
    Go through Jesus Seminar on net or read 5 gospels.
    Who really wrote them
    Which books were chosen
    Why chosen
    Books rejected
    Why rejected
    Author of 1st 5 books
    Versus added
    Mythology in Daniel
    Was the word ,original copied from Philo..
    Gospels copied from one to another.
    Issah, gospels annonymous.
    Etc etc
    Then and only then discuss.

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  • Vivian Rodrigues, Dubai/Mangalore

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    The first and foremost freedom is religious freedom. Each and everyone has a right to chose what he/she believes. Without this freedom there is no freedom. Period.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @Mohammed - If your understanding of the Bible comes from Zakir Naik, then it is time to educate yourself. Jesus accepted and received worship and his disciples and the early church till this day believed that he was God.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @R.Fernandes - Do you know what the title 'Son of Man' refers to? If you are saying Christ is only a Messiah, why does St. Thomas in John 20:28 say "My Lord (Kurios) and my God (Theos)!". Do you know what Kurios and Theos mean?

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @JOHN R LOBO - Salvation is the free gift by God that occurs by grace through faith - see Ephesians 2:8-9. However as a Christian, you must also practice good deeds - see James 2:14-26. Salvation of the soul does not occur simply by doing good deeds in society. While that may make the person a better human being, it does not assure salvation. A Christian must live by faith and deeds - one cannot survive without the other.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @Richard - what you are suggesting is the formation of a totalitarian state. Can you live in a totalitarian regime? Do you know that the people who cheered the formation of such a regime, eventually were exterminated by the same regime?

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @jeevan, you asked "Why should a Christian want to convert a Hindu to Christianity ???" jeevan, Christians are called to preach Christ to Christians and non-Christians alike. People are free to accept or reject Jesus' message and his teachings. This has always been the case during and after Jesus' ministry.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @Harold D'cunha - you said "Religion should be within the 4 wall and it should be kept as private matter. All loudspeaker of all place of worship should be stopped" and "RELIGION IS OPIUM TO SOCIETY" How will you answer Jesus' words in Mark 16:15 "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation"?? How do you interpret these words??

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    A notable commentator in this forum always writes about God,almighty,Jesus,Bible and what not.But his comments are always filled with hatred,jealous,criticising others with prejudicial intent.I simply fail to understand the true mindset of the writter.Some times I wonder whether Lord has given speial permission to him to make use of this forum to the maximum extent for spreading hatred and spilling venom.Very rare quality indeed!!!

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Sam,
    Please read footnotes in mark 16: 9-20
    Most of the bibles do not have it or mention it was added later .
    They also say not to base Docrtrines on these. This is for you to check .....

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  • Vishal, Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Mr.Fernandes, I responded only because you tried to teach me that there is no trinity, and Jesus is not God. Now you are telling me not to teach you religion ! Conclusion, you do not know Bible , and you do not know logic. You might be beyond religion, but not beyond the hand of God.He has ways to protect His word from those who pervert it. Good Bye.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    MR Vishal,
    Read read Eziekel chapter 23 vs 1 onwards. And the song of Soloman then reply as to word and Logic .

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

    They replied, “Some say John the Baptist others say Elijah and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

    “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
    Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
    Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[d] loosed in heaven.” Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.
    Now what is the meaning of Messiah?
    A messiah is a saviour or liberator of a group of people, most commonly in the Abrahamic religions. In the Hebrew Bible, a messiah (or mashiach) is a king or High Priest traditionally anointed with holy anointing oil.
    Let the good sense prevail.
    GOD bless you and good bye!

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  • Mohammed, Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    You cant comment on context. The word son is in the bible in tons. The Hebrew language makes is like that. Jesus never claimed divinity in his life where he said am GOD worship me. Even the early Christians believed that he was not god

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / mangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Wise and nice people seek God and perceive what is God.
    Godless are mindless and they lead a life in dark.
    They are born after God. Hope they shall see the light before their death as so many atheists have seen miserable death and they repented before God. People have still chance to repent from their misdeeds and miss understandings.
    ONCE THEY FIND THE FAITH IN JESUS IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO REVEAL THAT HE IS SO AND SO THAT THEY DON’T ASK THE TIGER TO COME AND HIT THEM. THIS IS SIMILAR TO KUWAITI PRINCE. ROYAL FAMILY OF KUWAIT DOESN’T WANT TO BE DEFAMED AND CONDEMNED BY OTHER KINGS. SO THEY HAVE TO DENY AT ANY COST KEEPING THEIR UNIQUE IDENTITY. And we Christians also don’t want to argue before unbelievers.
    John 15: 10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth

    Behold the atheists shall see the mighty works of almighty God that they may come out from the dark and see the light.

    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
    ― Epicurus

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    1Humans have a history of making up convenient explanations for things unknown. For example, some had thought the sun to be a living god others believed (and a very small number still do) the earth to be flat and the center of the universe. In short, explanations based on gods and heaven have been steadily replaced as new knowledge is gained. History suggests that remaining mysteries will be sufficiently explained in terms of familiar and rational forces rather than by supernatural ones. For example, many people believe that a superior being created life, while atheists believe that this is just another scientific phenomenon to which people have assigned a supernatural explanation. People once believed that it was a choice between blind chance and a god creating living organisms therefore, most educated people saw a need for a god. We now know that the random process of DNA mutation is coupled with the nonrandom process of natural ion. An atheist might want to point out that the scientific consensus is that the Big Bang, abiogenesis, and evolution account for the beginning of the universe and the origin and diversity of life. While this does not rule out the possibility of a god's guiding the development of life, it does show that a god is not needed as an explanation for the origin of life.

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  • Rajesh, udupi

    Fri, Aug 15 2014

    Hinduss did believe earth and sun as gods,but they have better clarity of earth movements. while west believed that earth is flat until 15 th century, our scriptus says in varaha avtar, vishu lifts earth from his tusk like a ball.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    ATHEISTS WERE ALL BORN AFTER GOD.

    GOD IS FIRST.

    MANY ATHEISTS REPENTED BEFORE THEIR DEATH BEFORE OUR MERCIFUL GOD.

    I AM SURE THEY WILL HAVE VISION AND MISSION RATHER THAN CONFUSION BEFORE THE MERCIFUL GOD.

    BEHOLD THEY SHALL SEE THEY MIGHTY WORKS OF ALMIGHTY WORK SO THAT THEY MAY COME OUT FROM THE DARK.

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  • Jayanth, Bangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Whether you are an atheist or animist or a cartoonist there is nothing to be repent full unless harmed others
    Atheists are more humane than believers

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Jayanth,
    You could not be more right
    no god no fight!

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    " I'm an atheist and I thank God for it."
    - George Bernard Shaw
    Nice to keep the cake and eat it too !

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    I was an Atheist.
    Now I have embraced Jesus Christ and have a doctorate degree in theology.
    ATHEIST TURNED CHRISTIAN DR. DAVID WOOD.

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  • HEMANTH KUMAR,

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    The people should stop this type of activity and relious centre should not encourage this

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  • Jayanth, Bangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    For those who compare evangelists with Harekrishna

    1. Hare Krishna is a cult and they do not visit houses and tell forget your current religion and accept only our god. Whereas as Evangelists when they visit homes call all hindu beliefs as superstition and gods/godess as devils are false.

    2. Those who accepted Harekrishna in the west are basically atheists who stopped practicing christianity and came to Hare Krishna fold for fashion and fun and most of them are never serious

    3. In the west people are matured with religious conversations, whereas in the developing/under developing countries people are emotional and not matured, so a conversion attempt sometimes yield results and sometime brick bats.

    4. There is no doubt about dedicated social services from Christian community, but even other communities also do. When people migrated from Goa to mangalore it was keladi rulers who provided land and nurtured the community

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  • NISHAR, UAE

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @Savita, bangalore,
    Sister, Every religion taught to settle any matter with peace and love. No religion is religion if it’s encouraging violence except for self-defense. Yes I can also see people resorting to violence and killing men, women and children (and burying them alive in Iraq) but never try to judge any belief or entire community for acts of a person or groups. If so we have terrible examples of acts of those who taught to settle any matter with peace. It was also barbaric without any deference when compared to those who do Iraq. Was it sign of strength?
    People who chose violence belong to ‘Satan’s religion no matter what they pretend. We are also taught that if someone killed a single innocent, it is as he murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. (Quran-an).
    Rightly said Patience is the virtue of strong and mindless violence is the virtue of cowards. Such lines are beautiful when it followed first by ourselves.

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  • NISHAR, UAE

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @PEDDU, mangaluroo
    This is for you too..
    Is my question really made u frustrated since yesterday? lol..
    but i didn't had any intention to hurt anyone. It was my Curiosity bro.

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    I AM NOT FRUSTRATED FROM YOUR QUESTIONS !! I AM FRIGHTENED OF HYPOCRISY

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  • Sam, Germany

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    This is like the official Secret Police of Nazi Germany. Our own Indian people are becoming like Gestapos. Initially it will seem like a good deed, but later, these buffoons will cry just like the civilians in Nazi Germany.

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  • S.S.D'Souza, Udupi

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    So what? Do you want to eliminate all of those who are not Christians?
    Come on man, no one is born with a religion. It is not God's creation. Both religion & God are human inventions, perhaps first of all inventions.
    Religion gives us a name & decides how to dispose off our dead corpse. That's all.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    MR.DSOUSA,
    AGREED GOD & RELIGION IS A CREATION OF MAN .
    A CREATION WHERE EVERY WAR, RIOT,BATTLE IS FOUGHT ON.
    NO CHILD IS BORN INTO ANY RELIGION ( U.N.Charter 14 on human rights)
    Since everything has an opposite
    Good- bad
    Up- down
    Tall - short etc
    An opposite for god was invented- Devil.
    But in life man is either godly ( does good or does not do bad to humanity) or
    Devilish does only bad no good .

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  • leslie, udupi

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Empty world and rheotic individuals...
    What is religion and what is faith?
    Humanity is the only religion...
    Can there be any religion beyond human life...???
    I doubt...Do you...???

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  • Lawrence, USA

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Anti-conversion law indicates that the conversion by force, allurement or inducement is against the law. I am yet to see a single conviction of forced conversion in India. It will never happen in Christianity. People who talk about forced conversion do not know the conversion process at all. Unless one is mentally prepared and willfully accepts, the conversion is null and void.

    The anti-conversion law is ambiguous in clearly defining the inducement or allurement. Is sending non-Christians students to Christian school an inducement? Or teaching God’s word, offering food for hungry, shelter for homeless, treatment for the sick an inducement? People are talking about western funds for mission work in India. Christians may receive some funds for their mission work (not-for conversion) in the same manner as Hare Krishna Panth and other religious organization. Then why the Christians are singled out? It is also a debatable point why only Hindus convert to Christianity and why not Christians to Hinduism? There are poor people in both the communities and the monetary inducement may not be the reason. Is it Caste-ism and social status. We need to find a root cause and work on it.

    If at all any forced-conversion takes place, it is the duty of law enforcement to investigate upon filing complaint by the converted person. I simply don’t understand why people in groups surround the place and intimidate these people. Why don’t these groups surround the prostitution dens, criminal gangs, drug peddlers, land grabbers etc.? No guts? Perhaps, the Christian minorities are the easy target for these “Uthara Kumaras” There is a saying in Kannada “ Ellarannu bidi Montanannu Hidi” because Monta cannot run fast.

    Another funny thing I have noticed that the police respond so quickly for any freak telephone call of possible conversion and arrest the innocents.I hope they will respond in a same manner for any terrorist activities in the city.

    I hope good days are ahead.Achche Dhin that is.

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  • Abdul Salam, Mangalore/Doha

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Hey cant we live with peace of mind. what you are trying to teach about religion.Their is no other religion other than humanity.others are just faith only.

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  • Manohar Veigas, UDUPI

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Well said John Touro 'Christians are required to worship God, love their fellow beings and preach the Gospel or the Good News unto all nations'.

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  • John Tauro, M'lore / Kwt

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    The report says they were accused of abetting conversion. Were the accused convicted? Did the family complain of using force? If so then the accused should be prosecuted. But what is using force? Either convert or leave the country or be prepared to die is what is happening in Iraq today. And this is what is called force. According to history, similar force was used by the Portuguese colonialists also in Goa, which resulted in the migration of thousands of Goans to present Karnataka. Use of force is the result of extreme fanaticism.

    Christians are required to worship God, love their fellow beings and preach the Gospel or the Good News unto all nations. But they not taught to convert the non-believers by force or by providing material favours. It is highly regrettable that preaching and convincing the listener to believe is construed as force. In that case a politician who through his fiery speeches convinces the public to support and vote him should also be deemed as force. It is up to the listener to accept or reject what is said or preached. All see that Christian charitable and welfare activities such as operating schools, hospitals, orphanages, ashrams, etc. are open to people of all communities. It's highly unfortunate a few view them as aimed at gaining conversions.

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  • Judith L, Mumbai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    well said. similarly, in that case Hare Rama Krishna also should be stopped from preaching abroad and getting the foreigners join them in multitudes.

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @ Judith Sequirea How come you are concerned about foreigners converting to hinduism than to be concerned about you ppl converting hindus to christianity? isnot this hypocracy? BY the way you are not representative of white in mumbai?

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  • Judith L, MUMBAI

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Your reply itelf is very absurd and full of hypocrisy.

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  • Rudolf Rodrigues, Mangalore/Mumbai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    All this "religion" business is just "crowd control" by "smart" people!!

    When the color and constitution of flesh and blood is the same where comes the question of "religion"!!

    Recently one of my close friends (fanatic Christian) was down with malaria and his platelet count had gone so low that he had to be transfused with 4 pints of blood to survive!! At that time, nobody questioned the "religion" of each of the four blood donaters, then why this fuss and natakam!!

    BELIEVE IN UNIVERSAL RELIGION AND THE WORLD WILL BE A VERY NICE PLACE TO LIVE!!!

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    From the onset of its release, the Kuwaiti government stated that the audio recording was a fraud and denied that there was a prince by the name of "Abdullah Al-Sabah" in the Kuwaiti royal family.

    In an article written by Marco Tosatti of the Vatican Insider, the name "Abdullah" does in fact appear in the family tree of the ruling family of Kuwait but not among living family members.

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    "In actual fact, the name Abdullah does not appear on the list of the 15 members of the royal family who rule this small, extremely wealthy country in different capacities," writes Tosatti.

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  • John Tauro, M'lore / Kwt

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    You're right Mr. Prabhu. In fact the person who embraced Christianity in Kuwait was Hussein Qambar, an ordinary Kuwaiti citizen, which was highlighted by the local media about 15 years ago.

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 13 2014



    But difficult to pass single with empty stomach !

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Word of God is Eternal.
    The same Word became flesh.
    And dwelt among us.

    Kuwaiti Prince after he embraced the faith of Jesus Christ he said:

    “First of all, I fully agree with the distribution of this audio file and I now that if they kill me because of it, then I will appear before Jesus Christ and be with him for all eternity.”

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    True Mahendra Shetty,

    We came empty hand, will be leaving this world empty hand. What is left to argue then ?

    Good day !

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    APPRECIATED..GOOD DAY YOU TOO!

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  • Manu, mangaloor

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Agniveer can do,Hare Krishna movement can do in western countries, Vanavasi kalyan can do, Vhp can do..... None of in these instance it is called as forced conversion coz it is Hindutva elements doing...when other people does they are branded as forcefully converting...
    What a logic....

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  • Truth, udupi

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Forcible conversions are done in Iraq holding the gun and killing them, if not converted. This is impossible in India.

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  • NISHAR, UAE

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    DEAR BRO'S & SISTERS,
    2 QUESTIONS..
    1) WHY A CERTAIN RELIGION STRUGGLE HARD TO MAINTAIN FAITH OF IT'S OWN FOLLOWERS?
    2) DO THEY FEEL THE CONCEPTS AND LOGIC'S OF THEIR BELIEF ITSELF IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO RESISTS THE CONVERSION?

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    @ NISAR Absolutely right. Some religions fear that if people leave it en masse, it would be called a cult hence they threaten them with killings and hell fire.

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  • savita, bangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    nishar,er:
    we are taught in our relegion to settle any matter with peace.we dont resort to violence for the matter that can be solved by fruitful discussion.you can see people resorting to violence and killing men,women and children(and burrying them alive in iraq) for the simple reason that they are not from thier relegion.can anything be more barbaric than this.is this the sign of strength in raping killing innocent men,women and children.
    patience is the virtue of strong and mindless violence is the virtue of cowards.

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  • PEDDU, mangaluroo

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    MADAM SAVITA !! ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ANSWER TO MR.NISAR FROM ABU DHABI !!

    YOU REALLY MADE MAY DAY !!!

    NISAR ANYTHING LEFT TO SAY ??

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I don't know why people believe in changing religions & conversion by force or willingly, I believe these people are not in good frame of mind, these type of people are always confused, being a good human being is enough....

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  • Flavian, Mangalorae/Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 13 2014



    Dear Jeevan,

    I do agree with your patriotism spirit and the love for the Nation.

    It would have been a great vision if RSS chief also entertains similar thoughts instead of calling all Indians as Hindutwas. What do you say ?

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Respected Flavian, Mangalorae/Kuwait

    Everyone has right to express their views morethan that it is not voice of Govt of India.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    My nationality is supreme than my religious identity...

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  • Pioneer, mlore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    @Jeevan
    If nationality is supreme than religion why you are worried of conversion.....

    You must be least concerned...coz everyone is Indian

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  • vaman, surathkal

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I am following the same religion in which my parents and I was born. I think religion is decided by God. So changing religion is against God. I don't understand how one's God also changes when a person goes into another religion.

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  • Vantage Point, mlore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    In this case I cant say it is forced conversion ..forced conversion is in when person in actually converted by force like what ISIS does...western countries and in few muslim.countries Hare krishna movement tries to convert local populace into hindu fold nobody prevents them...In India Vanavasi kalyan yojana tries to convert adivasi or tribals who are following shamanic animistic rituals into hindufold nobody prevents them or shout...Conversion is not sole right of a particular religion so that they shout when some other people does....Often hindutva organisation are found of converting christians and muslims in North India nobody created Ruckus...Why now shout...Isnt it hypocrisy...Indian law provides you practise and preach religion...I feel sad that this preaching is sole right of a particular religion coz they are in majority it cant happen vice versa....
    Agniveer can do...Hare Krishna movement can do but when people belong to other creed especially christians or muslim does they are blamed as forcefuly converting...

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    But it is pity of our society that still some brainwashed persons exist in all communities, who in one side pose themselves as messiahs of peace and harmony by posting exerts from holy book of their belief and other side use derogatory language on others (feku, pappu, chaiwaala, bar dancer, waitress, etc.) and supports anti-social elements like forceful conversion, indulging in moral policing, destruction of worship places of other religions, etc.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Why should a Christian want to convert a Hindu to Christianity ???

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear jeevan, mangalore,

    My faith in my God is bigger than any nation.

    GOD IS FIRST
    SECOND HUMAN
    THIRD NATION

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Understanding GOD is more important than writing GOD is first.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Without God what you will understand

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    R.Fernandes, Dubai,

    How come the scriptures without God.
    Hence God is first.
    Who gave the scriptures?!
    Almighty God, Yahweh

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Joseph,
    Followers of evil also understand!
    Followers of evil also quote scriptures!
    Followers of evils also in the name of GOD spew venom and hatred!
    So all in the name of GOD in this foolish world!

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear R.Fernandes, Dubai,

    I did not speak about the evil.
    I do speak about my God and your God.

    Evil is Evil,
    Bad is a Bad.
    Hatred is hatred.
    Evil will quote scriptures in a twisted way.
    Evil will understand the scriptures in a evil way.
    Evil already swore that he will sit on God’s throne.
    So the Followers of evil spew venom and hatred.

    We believers should be careful.
    Evil will use the name of God just to deceive humans.
    We must be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves.

    Jesus said to apostles: I quote John 10:16Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Unquote.

    That is why Jesus also said the world will hate you.
    I quote John 15:8 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. Unquote.

    See in this blog how many evil possessed humans spew hatred against the faithful those who believe in Jesus.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @jeevan, you asked "Why should a Christian want to convert a Hindu to Christianity ???" jeevan, Christians are called to preach Christ to Christians and non-Christians alike. People are free to accept or reject Jesus' message and his teachings. This has always been the case during and after Jesus' ministry.

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  • muhammad, mlore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Forced conversion.should stop....If any body is converting by will let them do it.....

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  • Alwyn, mlore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    if someone gives food, shelter education and religious identity to poor dalits and tribal's, they should be treated as patriotic and national heroes..
    they are the real nation builders..

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    WE NEED MORE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE RELIGIONS RATHER THAN CONVERSION !!!

    RELIGIONS ALWAYS LIKE BEHIND THE LINE - SAANS AND BAHU SERIES

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  • pradeep, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Pastor Frank,

    With due respect to you, comments with aggressive overtones only diminish the grace which is carried by someone in your position.

    I hope you are aware of the fact that 'chasing' away police is not allowed by law!

    Also, if majority of people accept all religious beliefs in a country like ours, what is the reason to preach? Why not simply let others have their beliefs and coexist with them happily? Unless of course, someone comes to you stating that their religion is not helping them anymore and seeks your advice? You claim to preach all over the world and proclaim thus. With all your faith and courage and decades of service (with due respect) do you dare to preach in Iraq or other Islamic regions where apostasy is punishable? Even a comment like yours today can put you in some serious trouble in such countries.

    You say you respect India, Good. Now respect the freedom and sentiments of her people also. If all religions start "preaching" a.k.a. coerce each other's community to convert won't we all be in a veritable hell? The context of this article was forced conversion. So let us think on that context. Religion is supposed to bring a framework to live in peace and harmony and reach God after our short tenure on this planet. Let us not get aggressive about something so beautiful. Instead let us learn to appreciate the differences and enjoy the timeless wisdom wherever it comes from!
    This is a country where a person goes to Tirupati to petition God for prosperity, and the same person goes to Infant Jesus Shrine or the Church to shed tears begging forgiveness. He won’t think twice before hugging a Muslim friend and partake in Id feast! No preaching required for Indians. And let it be so!

    Sorry for preaching!

    With my most humble respects to you,
    Pradeep

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Appreciated!
    Every religious leader thinks that "My way is highway and that is the only way to reach GOD".

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  • Ethan, Florida\ Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    My friend it is "My Way or High Way"!!

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Ethan, Florida\ Mangalore,

    Neither your way no my way either anybodies way.

    Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    In recent years, more and more states in India have enacted laws to restrict religious conversion, particularly targeting conversions via "force" or "allurement."

    In Tamil Nadu,
    "People using money or other benefits in conversion efforts targeted at these groups would receive four years imprisonment, and a one lakh (one hundred thousand rupee) fine."

    In Gujarat,
    Legislation goes a step further, making conversion ceremonies contingent upon advance notice and the permission of a district magistrate, given once the magistrate is satisfied that the conversion involves no force or allurement.

    In HP,
    Those wishing to convert to another religion will have to give a month's notice to the District Magistrate who, after enquiry, will grant permission for the change. It imposes a minimum of two years imprisonment or a fine of 25,000 rupees, or both, on "anyone found guilty of abetting and indulging in conversion from one religion to another by use of force, inducement or fraudulent means.
    When talking about conversion 3 main aspects have to be noted.FORCE DURING INQUISITION ..
    INDUCEMENT WHICH IS SEEN OPENLY IN BLORE / MLORE ..
    FRAUD MEANS .including threat which is clear in the great commission.

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  • Prabhu, Blore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Frank,
    To be frank with you your address opens a Pandora's box on conversation.
    The mission from Basel came with a Mission to make Christians in India.
    People who were landless , house less were given land and houses and jobs in return for converting to Christianity.
    Thus the name Mission compound
    Agreeing that it was a Nobel, humane gesture .....
    But under what category would you term this Conversion ?
    There are others in the catholic religion too.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    This is for Vishal Mangalore:
    Thomas was one of Jesus apostle. He asked a question to his master.
    Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?" Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life no one comes to the Father but through Me. "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also from now on you know Him, and have seen Him."
    This is the question replied to Thomas who did not know where he had to go. But he knew Jesus will show him the way. This statement of Jesus cannot be taken in the general context.
    Before Jesus also there were lot of messengers among them Moses is the one who gave us 10commandments.
    Don't you follow the 10 commandments?
    Every messenger who comes in the name of GOD has to be respected including Mohammed.
    Now you may ask who is GOD?
    God has only replied. I AM YAHWEH THAT IS MY NAME(Isaiah 42:8).
    Hence read Bible yourself and understand with your own intelligence and not by listening to what others say.

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  • Vishal, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Fernandes,
    As far as I know Jesus said he is the fulfillment of the old testament and commandments. A true messenger of Prophet will believe and Accept that Jesus was the son of God, and anyone who rejects that fact is the spirit of Antichrist. Now tell me if the PROPHET you mentioned accepted the son-ship of Jesus. you need to read your own bible first carefully and prayerfully.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    From where did you find these things? Just by listening to others?
    Even in Bible in New testament read Jesus preaching only. Nothing can be wrong in his preaching.
    He is son of GOD. He has no where mentioned that he is the only son of GOD. You are a son of GOD. I am a son of GOD.
    But he was a good son not the only son of GOD and we are the prodigal sons. Never he told that he is GOD. Every miracle he did it in the name of his father almighty. Church made him GOD. Church developed the trinity concept. Church made religion where as he came with GOD's message only.
    Do not follow religion but follow Christ and his preaching only. You will realize the truth.

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  • vishal, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Sorry Sir, but you are preaching a heresy here.Read the episode of the baptism of Jesus where The Father openly announces Jesus as His Begotten Son. You will find dozens of places where Jesus refers to the father and holy spirit and their unity. The doctrine of Trinity is a fundamental belief of Christianity. If you are a muslim writing here under a fake name I rest my case and wont waste my time here. If you are a catholic, I request you to join a study group and learn instead of preaching this doctrine of demons.Dont play with God.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Dear Vishal,
    You need to read Bible properly.
    When John was baptizing Jesus, GOD says he is my beloved son not begotten son.
    Concept of trinity cannot be found in any preaching of Jesus and he never told that he is GOD.
    Don't worry about me because I know what I am doing.
    I have read many religions in search of GOD and finally I have reached to stage where I can understand who is GOD and what is GOD. Please do not try to teach me a religion because I AM BEYOND RELIGION!

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  • Manohar Veigas, UDUPI

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    It seems that the four women were distributing pamphlets relating to the Holy Bible. In fact, most of the time the complainant gives twist to such incidents as 'religious conversion' and our brethren from other faith gets a wrong interpretation of the incident. But the followers of Christianity are aware that spreading the Word of God (Gospel) is a part of the duty of every Christian, even to their own brethren by also visiting the houses of the Christian faith. That's why we observe that so called 'victim' never lodges a complaint not because of fear but because there is no substance to be accused of. But the complainant is always the third party.

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    The most important issue should be Roti, Kapda, Makan and Employment. If one has employment, then where is the time for all these activiteis.
    Religion should be within the 4 wall and it should be kept as private matter. All loudspeaker of all place of worship should be stopped. Then there will be peace in our Country.


    After all RELIGION IS OPIUM TO SOCIETY

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  • Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    @Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore..
    1)why you defend/preach 'Conversion'
    2)everyone knowS 'good deed' is faith
    3)in every religion 'good' and 'bad' people are there
    4)if possible support the poor don't appease for conversion
    5)no one takes religion but his deeds counts!!..
    6) preachers may be uneducated, hence they may think they will get commission later on each head converted!!
    7)strong preaching are there in every faith/religion,

    LET PEOPLE TO LIVE IN THEIR RELIGION DON'T SPREAD HAT-REDNESS BY 'CONVERSION' METHOD and stop preaching

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

    FIRST CONFIRM ME FROM YOUR HEART WHAT ARE YOU A HINDU A MUSLIM OR A CHRISTIAN. THEN I SHALL ANSWER TO YOU QUESTION.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Mr.Richard, Shirva/Sharjah is a true nationalist Indian...

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  • Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    @Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore..FORGET RELIGION, RESPECT THE HUMANITY then you will find answer yourself ..i just mediated

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    DEar Richard, Shirva/Sharjah,

    I know we are all human beings.

    I did not asked you about your religion.

    I ASKED YOU, ARE YOU A HINDU OR A CHRISTIAN OR A MUSLIM.

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  • Flavian, Mangalore/Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 13 2014



    And what about good wife/husband/family ?

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  • Sunil, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    One of my heroes, Mahatma Gandhi once said that “God has no religion.” Regardless of what name you call God, our only real purpose here on earth is to achieve union with God. As children of Abraham, we have created our own problems by trying to claim God for ourselves. When in fact, the root cause of believing that God only serves you and your people is ignorance. As a yogi, we believe that this is simply ignorance of self. If we dig deep inside of ourselves, we would recognize the oneness that we all share you and the Muslim or you and Jew or you and the Christian or you and the Hindu, are one.BY RUSSELL SIMMONS

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  • Pastor E. W. Frank, Udupi-576101

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Daiji readers:

    There is no such rules preaching or giving printed materials to any one in India. Christians, Muslims and Hindus all have the constitutional rights to preach and convert who accept and no forceful conversion is allowed. Mr. Sangliana challenged and said if any one show me one forceful conversion among Christians, he said he will give them Rs. one lakh but no one so far claimed. Only BJP, BD, and RSS creating false stories about forceful conversion by Christians. Police have no rights to come to these poor Christians and arrest and take them on the false complaints. If the Police come to my door I will chase them out as I will preach or give books according our Constitutional rights of India. I will abide by the law of the nation all my life. I am a Christian priest, I preach in India and all over the world no man can question. Jesus gave me the ministry and commissioned me to preach. India is my country and I am proud of it. But I am a true Christian. I love Jesus and I love people around the world. I do not any one to teach me as I have been Preaching for over 46 years around the world. May God bless our readers.

    Yours in His Grace
    Pastor E. W. Frank, Pres.
    AIDCC(R), Udupi-576101

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  • Jayanth, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I love Jesus and if I want to see him will visit the church. But Please don't come to my house for sales

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Manglaore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Wonderful Dear Pastor E. W. Frank, Udupi,

    MAY GOD BLESS YOU IN HIS HARVEST FIELD.

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  • Alwyn, Canada

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    True desicple of Jesus. If all catholic priest vouch like you by now India would have been a nation of lover of Jesus. Most Christians do great work in many ways but no one appreciate what we do except blame us for no reasons. So many study in our schools , hospitals, grow in orphan home, shelter in houses still pelople play politics only with Christians everywhere India to Middle East to Africa to America. Still our creator comfort us to help more, world is never satisfied need more and we give all even we have little just bcze Jesus told us to do so. God bless your ministry.

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  • India First, India

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Only by changing religion we will not go to heaven !!!

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    DEAR India First, India,

    only by being INDIA FIRST WE WILL NOT GO TO HEAVEN.

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  • India First, India

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    I call myself 'India First' not 'Only India'....

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    THE MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC IN OUR LIFE IS THAT "RELIGION" AND "POLITICS"

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  • balaji, udupi

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    you may change your religion but you can not change your " buddi "

    you go anywhere or change to any faith you will be remain same

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  • JESSIE, MANGALORE/sharjah

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Religion is a way of life. Jesus taught conversion of heart and not conversion of religion. REPENT & RETURN to God. It is sad, the advance world is fighting in the name of religion with corrupted hearts and minds and this is the cause of conflict and crisis.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Jesus said:
    Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    DO CHURCH OPPOSE IF WE ENACT ANTI CONVERSION BILL ???

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Jeevan,

    Please elaborate who your 'We' comprises of. Indian constitution allows freedom of faith. Nobody can be restricted from changing a faith of his origin to another. May he be a Christian, Hindu or Muslim. Church is not a dumb fossil to object a constitutional right granted to every Indian.

    Fossil, exactly because you shut your eyes when there is exodus to Hinduism from West but wail aloud when a few go out of your own religion.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    If Govt of India enact Anti conversion bill do you oppose ???Bill which prohibit the conversion by force, allurement, gratuity, and other method by which one man renounce his religion and convert into another religion.....

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Jeevan,

    Fools like you dream of a large business with just an egg in hand. The egg can any time roll off and break.

    There is no question of anti-conversion bill or its opposing. Freedom of faith is constitutional right.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Manglaore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear jeevan, mangalore,

    YOU ARE SPEAKING AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION.

    LATE OM PRAKASH THYAGI TRIED HIS BEST AND FAILED.

    JAYALALITHA TRIED HER BEST AND REVERSED THE PASSED LAW IN THE ASSEMBLY.

    NDA'S ATEL BEHARI VAJPAYEE TRIED TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF. FINALLY SUCCUMBED TO THE VIRTUES OF OUR CONSTITUTION.

    History repeats itself because of humans ignorance.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Jeevan,

    If you are not reading all comments here, I thought to copy-paste this for your information :
    Boma, Periyadka Wednesday, August 13, 2014
    Again Feku helpless.. he cannot pass anti conversion bill.
    -

    Does your 'We' comprise of Feku too ?

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  • Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    @ Lydia Lobo, Kadri..Jeevan is right and its need of the time to ban/restrict such kind of activity(conversion) to maintain peace in the country, majority proved their unity so better stop to play with sentiments of Hindus..may be next election they may come much stronger to 360 for easy choice...better choice 'join the force' to fight the evils

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Richard,

    Do you believe in treating the symptoms or the root cause to eradicate a disease ? Hindus need to strengthen their faith to stop people from converting to other religions.

    For example, if a Hindu goes to a Qazi or a priest and expresses his desire to convert, no Qazi nor the priest have the right to stop him. What the offended Hindus must concentrate on is why are members of their religion move away from their belief.

    Please note, here no enticement involved as some people claim but self desire.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @Richard - what you are suggesting is the formation of a totalitarian state. Can you live in a totalitarian regime? Do you know that the people who cheered the formation of such a regime, eventually were exterminated by the same regime?

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  • Joy, Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    jeevan, mangalore

    Indian constitution is not anybody's property to change as you wanted. Its gives equal rights to all the INDIANS.

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    The main reason Hindus being targeted for conversions is that there is no unity among Hindus. I really appreciate others religion for their unity.

    Unlike intellectuals of other religions, Hindu intellectuals believe that they will get some status / attention in the society if they criticize their own religion and God.

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  • peter lewis, kalmady/k s a

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Those Roman Catholics read and understand Jesus Christs words in new testament never go to other faith

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Do we have different conversion rules for white skinned people ...

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  • MS,

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai
    Its india. Here rules are different for different sects based on Vote banking. Many Christians converted to Hindu, no rules applies here. where as single hindu even he willingly convert there will be hue and cry. If majority do moral policing, police arrest victims, if minority do moral policing, police arrest moral polices. and they say its secular.
    Jai hind

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  • Nagendra, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    If government includes do a survey now and compare the data with previous data you may find very significant information about increase in Christians. Just visit villages and city outskirts and you try to gather information and you will find that there is a significant number of people increasing in one religion and if you introspect this with birth rate you will be confused as to how one religion head count is increasing without increase in birthrate and that's where you will find your answer about conversion. And this is very badly increasing in Orissa, AndhraPradesh, Telangana, Karnataka, Tamilnadu and Kerala when compared to North. You may deny that there is no such thing called conversion or you may support that they are changing by their own will, but there are plenty of associations there only for this to get foreign funds. If you can't agree with this just go an ask any of these new christian societies to help the people in need with out talking about religion for just one year and you will realize. I have experienced this while working in mangalore where one such group with educated professionals told that they can teach only prayer songs and not the actual academics for which we have requested them.

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  • AUBB, Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 13 2014


    @ Nagendra, Bangalore.

    Do you mean to say it is wrong to get foreign funds from fellow Christians around the world for preaching the gospel in India?

    Can you prove that the foreigners send their funds to India to forcibly convert people to Christianity?

    After all they are collecting the hard earned monies of the faithful Christians abroad who have followed the command of Jesus , to go to the nations of the world and proclaim the gospel to those who have not known or heard about it .

    Doesn't our constitution permit to proclaim the gospel freely and openly, with or without the aid of foreign funds??

    Don't you see the missionary works of Christians from abroad in the field of education, health care and upliftment of the downtrodden people of India??

    given the percentage of Christians in India, Christians have far more contributed to this country than any other religion.

    Is it not wrong for Modi to donate 2,500 KG sandalwood, and Rs.25 crores to a Nepalese temple from the tax payer's money? Did he seek the permission of the Christians who are also tax payers of India??

    Is it fair to say the moment the Christian preach, teach the gospel, that they are after converting people, without the person having an innermost conversion of his his heart??

    Show me one case...............

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  • Eulalia Dsouza, Bijai / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    It is unfortunate that a Certain Religion is being made scape goat for misdeeds of few people of a particular sect. They call themselves as " Preachers of Christ " and go to houses preaching bible. It doesn't mean they convert people. Also it is not right to call it as " Forcible Conversion " .. !! If one is strong in his / her faith, no one can try to convert you.
    This is not done by any Foreign Aid or so. Am sure people understand what their own religion means to them and try to remain in it till end. It is not right to politicise issues all the time. This can divide society for no reason at all.

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  • Ashfak A. Karnad, Al-Khobar

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Here I really confused, if someone know about our constituency please.
    Is it against the our constitution to do Dharma prachara. If not why police arresting them.

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  • Antonio DSilva, Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I am trying to contribute my 2 paise to the various opinions expressed here.

    For any religious conversions there is need for a person or persons who feel the need to be converted as they might not be spiritually, socially and financially happy and fully satisfied with their present way of life.

    Thus, religion cannot be imposed on people. Like they say you can take a horse to the water but you cannot make it drink neither can you sell booze to a teetotaler.

    If I were told that a person from my parish converted to another religion then I would take it that a weak person who could not see God in my religion left and would have no remorse.

    For those who do not understand Christianity - This is a religion which does not give any other option than for each of us to carry our own crosses and follow in the footsteps of Jesus.

    Christianity does not provide any financial rewards or other incentives, nor does it make life materialistically more comfortable. Those who promise materialistic rewards for conversions to Christianity are faking it or selling the wrong Christianity. Christianity cannot be sold it is a spiritual experience that makes one attain their peace with God.

    Now for those people who go about Christianity bashing:

    See and rectify the atrocities committed by you in your society in the name of religion, if there are people from your religion converting to other religions then there is something wrong which needs to be addressed and remedied, until then conversions will continue.

    The very fact that you go around policing to find the converters and the converted highlights your fear of your own wrongdoing.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Mahendra Shetty,

    I want to counter the two points you have raised here : (1) Number increases of a certain religion to strengthen vote bank. Christians in India account for 2.8% of the population. How would the number make a difference as compared to rest of the 97.2% voters' count ? Secondly, how come their number never increased in a huge percentage over past decades if your claim was correct ?

    (2) India is counted 8th in the world as far as millionaires are concerned (roughly 14,800 multimillionaires). How many Christian or Muslim millionaires will be among this number ? Surely a pittance. Lets say, these two groups get aid from outside the country to strengthen their religion. Why the millionaires within the nation cannot shed some of their wealth to strengthen their own religion ?

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Lydia Lobo...

    ON YOUR FIRST POINT..IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE YOUR COMMUNITIES YOU HAVE....IT IS ABOUT HOW TO INCREASE THE NUMBERS...YOU CAN SEE HOW YOU PEOPLE NEGLECTED AS A MINORITY AND SAME ANOTHER MINORITY COMMUNITY PAMPERED BECAUSE OF THEIR CONSIDERABLE POPULATION....

    REGARDING SECOND POINT...DON'T COUNT ON MILLIONAIRE AS I AM ALSO NOT A MILLIONAIRE BUT I AM HAPPY IN WHAT I AM EARNING...IF MONEY BRINGS HAPPYNESS ALL RICH PEOPLE ENJOYED THEIR LIFE BUT THE TRUTH IS NOT..YOU KNOW SO MAY EXAMPLE HOW THE MONEY SPOILED THEIR LIFE..

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Mahendra Shetty,

    On number count issue, Shri Sudarshan of RSS had insisted every Hindu woman to live her Ashta-Puthro-Bhava blessing and have eight sons. Did you not have a good reason to increase in number ? My community is neglected alright but who laments about it ? Do you see the institutions run by the very minority number ? Though at the cost of being blamed for converting students (despite no student came forward to prove this claim) ? If the other community is pampered, it is done bu the political parties. Again, see who grace the political posts - are they Christians or Muslims ?

    Your money is no doubt hard-earned and you have right to enjoy it. But, other religions practice certain percentage of their earnings as charity. They too enjoy their life but after setting aside the charity fund. Do you need further elaboration, or, have I hinted enough ?

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014


    LEAVE SUDARSHAN THINKING ASIDE, I AM NOT A FOLLOWER OF ALL THESE PEOPLE..I AM A FOLLOWER OF RIGHT PEOPLE..PEOPLE LIKE MOTHER TERESA, ABDUL KALAM, SWAMI VIVEKANANDA....REGARDING POLITICS ABDUL KALAM BECAME PRESIDENT AND MAN MOHAN SINGH BEACME PRIME MINISTER, GEORGE FERNANDES DEFENSE MINISTER AND ALL ARE CONSIDERED AS A MINORITIES......SO DON'T BRING MINORITY POLITICS....

    MONEY FOR CHARITY...SEE IF MONEY USED FOR GOOD CAUSE IT WILL BE WELCOMED..IN THE NAME OF CHARITY PEOPLE ARE MISUSING THE MONEY..IN RECENT EXAMPLE HOW NGO'S USED FOR STOPPING INDIA'S GROWTH BY DHARNA, STALLING NUCLEAR PROJECTS, HYDRO POWER PROJECTS ETC AND THE MONEY CAME FROM ALL OUTSIDE OF INDIA.....FOR SIMI, ISIS, INDIAN MUJAHIDEEN WHO IS SPONSORING MONEY ? HOW THESE TERRORIST GET THE FUNDS..THERE IS SEVERAL QUESTIONS IS THERE TO ANSWER....SO CHARITY , MONEY, LIFE, LEAVE ASIDE , YOU CAME IN EMPTY HAND AND LEAVE THIS WORLD IN EMPTY HAND ONLY....

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  • shammi, mangalore/dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    If your faith is strong with your religion its impossible others to convert you.

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  • Boma, Periyadka

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Again Feku helpless.. he cannot pass anti conversion bill.

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  • krishna, mumbai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I had been in touch with one of the Pastor of New life Fellowship in Mumbai. He himself was a converted. But he never even once told me to convert. Once I also attended a prayer of Star of Bethlehem group. Nothing has happened to me. Even in my childhood I used to go to a church in Kuppepadav to light a candle occasionally.If you respect other religion nothing is wrong but don't loose faith on your own religion.

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    KRISHNA,

    YOUR PASTOR FRIEND MAY BE NEEDED URGENT MONEY AND YOU KNOW BY HIS EDUCATION HE CAN'T GET THESE MUCH OF MONEY...PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE ON THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE...

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  • Richard, Shirva/Sharjah

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    good secular comment by krishna, mumbai, and word 'don't loose faith on your own religion' is touching!, exactly true to live with harmony with communities...but this NEW LIFE is dangerous to our society, those moral police-rs should be sent to jail for many years to feel business!!, they are real VIRUS to the society...mssg: Stop Conversion activities to maintain peace, let everyone be good with deeds

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  • A. S. Mathew, U.S.A.

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Interesting comment. Mr. Anand Mahadevan is the Business Editor of the Economic Times. Read his personal story which can be read through "google" website.

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  • Flavian, Manglaore/Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 13 2014



    KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    I fully agree with your comments.

    I am a born roman catholic and got married to a girl from roman catholic family. But after 25 year of being with in the bounds and leaps of Roman Catholic Church, my wife got influenced to join the new faith called New life Society or praise & worship. Finally, the Jesus is the same but from different churches. I had a tough time to cope with this abrupt disturbance and I challenged, had countless arguments, fights with those who influenced but finally had to give up because I never wanted to continue with disturbed married life. Life and peace of mind on this earth is very important. After death I do not think that there would different Heavens for people with different religion & religious faith. Amen.


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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Mr. Flavian, Manglaore/Kuwait,

    YOU DIDN'T GIVE UP ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE. YOU WERE IN FAITH AND YOUR FAITH IN JESUS HAS BEEN STRENGTHENED.

    It doesn't mean if you were in Catholic church your faith has diminished.

    THOSE WHO HOLD THE FAITH TILL THE END WILL BE SAVED.

    May God Bless you and your family.

    I HAVE SEEN SCORES OF CATHOLICS AND VIRTUALLY THEY ARE NAIVE IN THE HOLY BIBLE. THEY ARE DECEIVED VERY EASILY FROM THE UNBELIEVERS.

    Whereas the other denominations people are well versed in the Holy Bible.

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014


    I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE INDULGE IN FORCIBLE CONVERSION...IT MAY BE THEY NEED SIZEABLE POPULATION TO SHOW THEIR STRENGTH IN POLITICAL LEVEL...THESE PEOPLE ENJOYING FREEDOM HERE MORE THAN ANY COUNTRIES BUT STILL NOT SATISFIED....WESTERN COUNTRIES AND SOME GULF COUNTRIES POURING MONEY TO INDIA TO SO CALLED NGO'S TO MAKE CONVERSION.....NEED TO BEAT THEM PUBLICALLY SO THEY MUST THINK TWICE TO INDULGE IN ALL THESE ACTIVITIES....

    NEED TOUGHER LAW TO STOP THESE IDIOTS.....

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  • SECULAR INDIAN, Muscat / Udupi

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Sorry - One simple question, Why Hindus only converting easily to other religion ??? Why Muslims have no problem with this missionary conversion group And they never entertain them and they never going to convert easily to any other religion, We have to find out the reason for this than we have blame others.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    SECULAR INDIAN, Muscat / Udupi

    Reason Number 1: Few Hindus do not respect their own religion. You can see few such specimen in this forum also...
    Reason number 2: If a Muslim gets converted, there will be Fatwa against him to even kill. So Muslims are scared. This is not only in India but in the whole world.
    Reason Number 3: People in the rural area are innocent and can be converted easily.
    Reason Number 4: Lower caste Hindus feel they get status in the other religion. But later realise they will have no statsu wherever they go. Hence most will ge re-converted.

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  • Achhu, Mlore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    @RSBB
    I dont agree with number 2.
    did you ever hear such Fatwa in India?
    Mr. SECULAR INDIAN is talking about Hindu's so it is understandable that his query is related to India.

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    RSRB, Kundapura /

    Reason Number 1: Few Hindus do not respect their own religion. You can see few such specimen in this forum also...
    Ans: You are accusing Hindus. Did somebody "force" them?

    Reason number 2: If a Muslim gets converted, there will be Fatwa against him to even kill. So Muslims are scared. This is not only in India but in the whole world.
    Ans: Fatwa? Kill? This could happen in the Middle East. Not in India. We have number of Muslims converted to other religions in India for some personal reasons. No "force".

    Reason Number 3: People in the rural area are innocent and can be converted easily.
    Ans: If rural area people are innocent and easy, there is no need for "forceful" conversion.

    Reason Number 4: Lower caste Hindus feel they get status in the other religion. But later realise they will have no statsu wherever they go. Hence most will ge re-converted.
    Ans: Why do you have lower and upper casts in the first place? Why do you discriminate between Humans? where is the question of "Forceful" here.

    None of your reasons prove that others using force to convert Hindus.
    It is only certain groups making accusations of "forceful" conversion. i.e., "kailagadavanu mai yella parachi kondante"

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    RSRB,
    One more reason: In other religions unity is there, but we hindus lacks in unity. Unlike intellectuals of other religions, Hindu intellectuals think that they will get some status in the society if they criticize their own religions and Gods.

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Actually, you can go find a video on youtube where one of your Imams describes how 5 to 6 million Muslims are leaving Islam in Africa alone every year. Most of them are converting to Christianity. You can find it by doing a search on "leaving Islam". And never before have there been enough secularists in places like Egypt and Tunisia to actually have a significant influence on the politics of the nation. 100 years ago there was no such thing as a secularist in those nations. But today, Muslims are just walking away from their vile religion.

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  • xyz, mlr

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    The word "forceful conversation" definitely framed/alleged by the section of people. In fact it is true that , the visitors are regularly visiting small villages with pamphlets, which does not seems turning positive all the time, instead they should organize their preaching openly in mass public gathering.

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  • Achhu, Mlore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Forced conversion is not Long lasting.
    Conversion should not be for any personal benefit, it should be happen only after understanding religion.

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  • Flavian, Mangalaore/Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 13 2014



    "The names of the accused have been given as Shirley, Mini, Leelamma, and Shubha"

    Right action taken by the villagers

    Who is converting whom. They look like a cocktail group. Possible working on the promise of some rewards (financial help) from some organization.

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    This could be a group emplpoyed for the specific purpose and hailing from neibouring Kerala under names life New life Soceity etc., who are active in Karnataka spreading hatred towrds majority religious community in remote villages by distributing book,pamplets containg derogatory words on Hindu Gods.Similar cases were responsible for arousing communal passion among Hindus that led to infamous Church attacks of 2008.RCs of our dist are not involved in these type which has been made very clear by Bishop many times.DC should therefore take necessary caution to check these unscrupalous mischiveous elements in the soceity responsible for creating dishormony amonst various religions/people.People should remein vigilent and see that communal harmony prevelent now is not effected.

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  • krishna, mumbai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I had been in touch with one of the Pastor of New life Fellowship in mumbai. He himself was a converted. But he never even once told me to convert.

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    The Pastor would have had you been uneducated and poor.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear KRPrabhuji, Bangalore,

    THE BOOK SATHYADARSHINI WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO ANY OF THE CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS BECAUSE THIS BOOK WAS THE HANDY WORK OF THE V.H.P, BD, HINDU AJAAGARANA VEIDIKE AND RAMA SENA.

    SATHYDARSHINI BOOK WAS THE PRETEXT USED BY THE FUNDOOS TO ATTACK THE FAITH OF JESUS.

    THE WRATH OF GOD SURELY HAD FALLEN ON THEM IF NOT FALLEN WILL SURELY FALL ON THEM BECAUSE GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH. He judges justly and the worldly judges. We only put hope on Him.
    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Corrected Message: It is not my wish that the wrath of God should fall on the attackers. But God knows the truth. He judges all justly and not like the worldly judges.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Our patience is running out... Hindus & Hinduism respect all religions...Hindustan is home for all religions.
    STOP THIS MEMBERSHIP DRIVE FOR GOD SHAKE....

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  • maria goretti, MANGALORE

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    No one can covert anybody's heart only Jesus can and seriously he does not need the help of over enthusiastic converters let your life display Jesus and they'll know we are Christians by our love...!

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  • Bharath, Mlre

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Jesus Said:-
    “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.
    John 5:30

    Read bible properly before you preach

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @Bharath - you are correct. Jesus did say "I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me." John 5:30. Do you know why he said this and in what context? Jesus always fulfilled the will of the Father i.e. he was obedient to the Father because he loved him. A person who does not love, disobeys, which is what we humans do constantly. We disobey God and hence one another. Jesus called all humans unto obedience, to Love the God with all your heart and with all your soul. It is not Jesus who is incapable, it is we humans who are incapable and our words and actions of hatred arise from this.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Membership drive must be stopped at any cost....
    Time to enact Anti conversion bill...
    Govt must check the source of funds flooding through foreign countries.

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  • Vinod , Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Today I read music director Ilayaraja's son converted to Islam.
    Today is the time of freedom.
    So I think we should be adult about it and accept it.
    Religion is a personal choice. If a person can be influenced to convert how long will that influence last?
    Its a food for thought.

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  • JOHN R LOBO, Kaikamba/Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    DW Readers,

    Just becoz of you are Christian you will get NOT eternal salvation.

    Salvation of your soul is depend what you have done GOOD DEEDS to society.

    Be good to mankind.

    End of the day all religions Roads are joining in one point. That is Al mighty God.

    Please DO NOT debate on Volatile topic....

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  • Vishal, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Hi John, I am a new Christian, and you have confused me with your strange advice. Lord Jesus as his final advice " Go and teach the whole world and baptise " He also said no one can come to the father except through me " Could you please explain if a Christian should follow your advice or the command of the lord ? I am afraid I will hear his verdict " I never knew you" on the judgement day if I obey you rather than Him. Of course He has never said use any force to teach others . That is common sense.Now please answer my question as you owe explanation to all Christians who are trying to follow the lord.

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  • John R Lobo , Kaikamba/Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Hello Vishal,
    Please DO NOT CONFUSE
    Please refer : Holy Bible – Mathew # Chapter 35 - 46
    For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you made me welcome,
    lacking clothes and you clothed me, sick and you visited me, in prison and you came to see me."
    Then the upright will say to him in reply, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?8 When did we see you a stranger and make you welcome, lacking clothes and clothe you?
    When did we find you sick or in prison and go to see you?"
    And the King will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me."
    Then he will say to those on his left hand, "Go away from me, with your curse upon you, to the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
    For I was hungry and you never gave me food, I was thirsty and you never gave me anything to drink,
    I was a stranger and you never made me welcome, lacking clothes and you never clothed me, sick and in prison and you never visited me."
    Then it will be their turn to ask, "Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty, a stranger or lacking clothes, sick or in prison, and did not come to your help?"
    Then he will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you neglected to do this to ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE , you neglected to do it to ME "
    And they will go away to eternal punishment, and the upright to eternal life.'

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  • vishal, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Sir, you are only quoting other scriptures on doing good, which I fully agree.But a son will never forget the advice of a dying father. The final departing advice of my lord is always ringing in my mind and you have not answered my question on that. I am so happy with a new way of life that I consider my duty to teach others. Dont you sir ? What is the use if you feed and cloth the people but do not tell them of Jesus and that salvation comes only from Him ?

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  • KRPrabhu, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Golden words Mr.Lobo Sir......

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  • debbie miranda, mumbai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Hi Vishal,
    Yes you are a new Christian and have a lot to learn. If you read with an open mind on John's thoughts you will realize what he says is right, do good deeds no matter what the religion, all roads lead to one almighty God. We have many Gods in our Culture but ultimately they cumulate into one which I am sure we will all know once we die.

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  • vishal, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Sister, You are still contradicting what the Lord himself has commanded. Are you not scared ? One of the severest word from him was directed to those misguide the little ones in the lord , he said it is better to tie a heavy stone and cast them in the sea. If one is a true Christian, then by definition he should be sharing the tremendous benefit of good character he has earned from Lord Jesus Christ by confessing about him all the time.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @debbie miranda, your views that all roads lead to one almighty God is ambiguous. For example, let me illustrate this with Islam and Christianity. Islam believes in Allah, while Christianity believes in Yahweh. Islam denies the death, resurrection and divinity of Jesus, while Christianity believes in the death, resurrection and divinity of Jesus. Can both Islam and Christianity be true simultaneously? Yes God will judge everyone irrespective of religious belief, but to say that all roads lead to one almighty God is not at all accurate.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @JOHN R LOBO - Salvation is the free gift by God that occurs by grace through faith - see Ephesians 2:8-9. However as a christian, you must also practice good deeds - see James 2:14-26. Salvation of the soul does not occur simply by doing good deeds in society. While that may make the person a better human being, it does not assure salvation. A christian must live by faith and deeds - one cannot survive without the other.

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  • Pradeep, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014


    Spreading God's words is right... Forcing God's words upon the vulnerable is wrong. Do these converters have a monopoly on God?

    It is shameful to try and convert helpless people in the name of God... Such converts will be lost and remain confused for ever. God puts everyone in a certain religion for a reason. If a religion has merit in it then people will automatically take it up, no need to sell it door to door like Eureka Forbes Vacuum cleaners.

    I studied in a catholic school and we used to celebrate Saraswathi Pooja or Christmas with the same fervor... our school founders were respectable catholics, we used to have novena and also Sanskrit prayers...When we left school we got copies of Bhagawad Gita and The imitation of Christ by Thomas A Kempis and I still have these books with me... Such should be the beauty of respect and cohesion amongst religions! Those memories still guide us to this day.

    Peace,

    Pradeep

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    So true Pradeep.

    I studied in a Church-managed school where at lunch time we were made to recite a verse : Asato-ma Sadgamaya, Thama-so ma Jyotirgamaya, Mrityo-ma Amaratam Gamaya.

    We children innocently recited the verse so that we would be allowed to eat but never knew the meaning. Now, when grown up, I understand the beautiful meaning of the verse from Vedic scriptures. I still recite it when I feel tensed and cherish my school days experience.

    People who divide the society on the name of religion are a cancer !

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  • Jamal, Mangalore/Abudhabi

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Indeed it is a cancer. But unfortunately there is no cure for it. Only we can pray.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @pradeep - you say "Spreading God's words is right... Forcing God's words upon the vulnerable is wrong." So how do we distinguish between spreading and forcing? To a prejudiced mind anything spread is by force. Is there a distinction between ISIS style spreading or Christian style spreading or Hindu style spreading?

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  • jeetendra hegde, mumbai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Send them to iraq ,where ISIS uprooted yezdi tribals where bulk of peoples available for conversion

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  • jayant, suratkal/riyadh

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Are the people converting to other religion is so poor ? Then what about the people converted in East Africa like Congo, Rwanda, Nigeria ... look what they are doing now

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  • Praveen,

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Agreed..!! Being hindu i have huge respect to Christians who are the peace lover, not sure who are these groups going to spoil this atmosphere..!!

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  • Namith, Kottara

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    These people are the reason for communal clashes in society, need proper action

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  • DIVA, MANGALORE

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    People who respect their mother will not change religion.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @DIVA - your statement "People who respect their mother will not change religion" sounds dubious. You do not worship God because of your mother, father, brother, sister, caste, religion, etc. You should worship God because you love God and choose to worship him. If a person is honestly seeking the Living God, he will reveal himself to that person. God looks at the persons heart, not their pedigree.

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  • sid, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Forceful sounds as if the family was shown a gun and asked to convert ... its not how it works . Poor family / people who are ill are usual targets . Mini, Leelamma, and Shubha out of the four Leelamma and shubha are examples how they are better of after converting . They are the influences and they will give the family inumerable false examples why their god is not a real God . Finacial help , medicine , education and a little bit of prayer will have enough pressure on the family to think about converting or atleast visiting the prayer meeting ....This is the force which we are talking about ... its not the physical force ....

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  • readerwriter007, pune

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear Lawrence, USA. You made evident who the regilion involved here. nowhere in the matter it was mentioned your religion, but your comment made it evident. Everybody knew that, but matter was clear as they are not supposed to reveal that. It's absolutely wrong to get in to these conversion activities. Everybody is born with some religion and let them be happy in that. why you get into their religion matters. if you really want to help them, help them irrespective of the religion. We are seeing in our viscinity also like similar team visits house, talk about their religion , help those families with financial need and finally they get them convinced to convert themselves. It's happeneing around. Unnecessary you are inviting social troubles. why should you talk about or spread about your religion to the other religion people. We know and we respect your religion. That doesn't mean you eveluate your religion superior and visit houese to spread it. Don't get in to that please and don't support such activities also. Couple of years back there was a church burnt with few inmates burnt alive. Why ? It was because of similar activities happening in that church. and finally it was a tragic. So, please don't get in to or don't support such activities.

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  • Raj, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I dont know who you are, but you always write sensible comments, keep it up!

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @readerwriter007 - Christianity preaches Christ. The message of Jesus is given to all people (Christians and non-Christians) alike. All Christians believe Jesus is the way to salvation, are asked to follow his teachings and spread his message to the whole world. Accepting or rejecting Jesus is the choice of the human being. The question of superiority does not even arise.

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  • Sudhakar Poojary, Kadeshivalya/Dubai

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    These stupid religion converter are the main reason for Religion Riots and i am sure one-day Hindustan will witness for Religion riots if it continues in this way.

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  • Jacintha, middle east

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Religion is a means to identify the god within us and around us. If all religions are preaching the same and attaining the aim, then do we need a single religion? Can't we all co-exist? Why convert?

    Problem is, when religions are not able to recognize the god, but 'citing god', are indulging in inhuman activities - oppression, superstition, injustice, violence and barbarism.
    Caste, Creed, men, women, rich, poor, educated and not educated are differences of the social behaviour. We have attached GOD / RELIGION to everything, to reach our personal evil personal milestones.
    Politicians or so called LEADERS are wanting to divert people attention from their 'not pleasant' activities, so they highlight and support noise in the name of 'RELIGION, CONVERSION, COW PROTECTION, SHARIA LAW, KHAP and many such names. It is we the people who are required to maintain peace and harmony in the society, no one else will do for us.

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  • sam, world

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    @Jacintha. Religion is NOT a means to identify the god within us and around us. Rather Religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Also All religions are NOT preaching the same and attaining the aim. For example, Islam denies the death, resurrection and divinity of Christ, while Christianity believes in the death, resurrection and divinity of Christ. Can Islam and Christianity be simultaneously true?

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  • PINTO, Doha-Qatar

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Sadly because of these so called 'Groups' in Christianity, the entire Christian Community including Catholics are getting a bad name. They have converted so many Catholics too to their version of the belief.

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  • Homer, bharat

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    In New Jersey's Desi Central, a great Hindu temple rises-One of the "MOST SHARED" news item on TOI

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  • sanjay, shivapura

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    #lawrence usa. While making comment you should introspect. You r telling nothing wrong in spreading religion. ISIS is also doing the same in iraq, spreading religion according to their holy book, is it acceptable? We r in a common world, you follow your religion, we will follow ours. Your religious people from england called british ruled us by guns, looted our wealth & made us poor, now their aided missionaries come and lure poor hindus to your religion & you want our constitution to give you cover, nonsense.

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  • Vijay, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    forceful conversion is wrong. if a salesman comes to your home and asks you to buy his books or items its your choice you take it or leave it. if anybody gives you information about their religion or beliefs you take it or leave it. if you are not at all interested just ask them you may leave we have no time for you.unless you are threatened to join their group you can make some noise otherwise just leave it and move on.

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  • Santhosh, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Mr Lawrence
    Other religion dont get funds from western countries for conversion, forceful or otherwise....

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  • S.S.D'Souza, Udupi

    Thu, Aug 14 2014

    Mr.Santhosh, I'm afraid, there are numerous institutions of that other religion functioning outside India, raising funds & increasing membership.

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  • G.M.Hegde, Udupi

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    One.day.these.fascist.Mallus.are.going.to.be.hit.with.chappals.and. booted.out.of.peaceful.Dakshina.Kannada...

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  • India First, India

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    We have utmost respect for Christianity !! Please respect our respect !!

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  • Jennet Prescilla, Mangalore, Muscat

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Dear person anonymously calling India First. Thanks for your affirmation of respect for Christianity. Here I would like to state that due to the unscrupulous attempts by some denominations who call themselves as Christians but in reality are not as they do not forma Church, but a lay group interpreting the Holy Bible as they please, the Christians as a whole come under severe displeasure from other communities. They are a cult and not a religion. I am a Roman Catholic and I too was approached by my colleague and his so called sisters trying to convince me that they are the true believers. I put them off stating that I am content and happy to follow the Roman Catholic Church tenets and not interested to convert. Well when such people come do not entertain them, show them the door forthwith. All of us live in harmony, irrespective of caste and creed so why this pressurization on conversion? First of all we should live as per the tenets of our own religion which should be like a lamp for other people too to lead a better life. The desire to change a religion should come from within, based on the convictions that what I know of that religion will ultimately lead me to God Almighty and not by coercion by someone or by bribing, which is entirely wrong.

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  • Lawrence, USA

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    What is wrong in spreading the God's word? Let other religions also do the same thing and let the people exercise their freedom to choose their religion.

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    Constitution of India:-
    Article 25: Freedom of conscience and free profession, practice and propagation of religion
    (1) Subject to public order, morality and health and to the other provisions of this Part, all persons are equally entitled to freedom of conscience and the right freely to profess, practice and propagate religion.

    All have the right to propagate religion. But, Should be careful of accusations of "FORCEFUL".

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  • Homer, bharat

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    I heard Julia Roberts converted last year.Hope cops there did NOT arrest anyone and locals did Not "LAY SIEGE" to her house

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  • hari, managalore

    Wed, Aug 13 2014

    India is one of the most tolerant countries as far as freedom to practise own's religion is concerned. Compare this with rules in Muslim majority countries where conversion from Islam can lead to a death sentence. However, like any type of freedom, this can also be misused if not used responsibly. Propagation of religion like aggressive marketing backed up by foreign funds has the potential of causing great social and political unrest. Therefore this type of door to door marketing of religion should be condemned.

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