Bantwal: Two missing girls' cases take new twists - Youths accused of kidnap

Sun, Jun 28 2015 09:09:23 AM

Mounesh Vishwakarma
Daijiworld Media Network- Bantwal (RJP)

Bantwal, Jun 28: Two separate cases relating to missing of two young girls registered at Bantwal rural police station have seen new twists.

A young girl missing from her house at Pudu Maripalla was reported on June 21 and case was registered at the police station. The same day Irshad (24) from Pandavarakallu Kominadka went missing. Rumour mills said that two went together which could not be confirmed in the beginning.

When the families of the missing persons searched for them, the youngsters were found in Dharwad. After that both were brought back to their respective houses. The girl has now complained to the police that Irshad abducted her and raped her. A police case has been registered on the same and Irshad has been arrested.

In another incident, a young girl who was missing from her house in Sajipanadu from Jun 11 came to the police station on June 17 with a person named Imthiaz and said that she had gone willingly with Imthiaz. Since she did not agree to go to her house, she was sent to Prajna counselling centre in Mangaluru for counselling.

On Saturday, the girl came to the police station with her family and lodged a police complaint alleging that Imthiaz had kidnapped her. Police have registered the case and investigating further.

Both the cases are handled by circle inspector Beliappa and his team.

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ibrahim/yanbu, ksa
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Run case girls, after returning, should not be with social elements hand. Ultimate result will be same

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Mallik, Bangalore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
People are usually blind to reality when in love, and this becomes the result. Anyway, is certainly not a case of kidnapping, as the girl herself told the police she didn't want to join parents. If they are adults, the girl is free to marry whoever she wants. The case is false

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Mon, Jun 29 2015
I agree - its not said they were students but also no mention of their age though its said they were young girls. Obviously girls below 18 are young and assumed to be studying ? If they were above 18, the scenario would have been different - no need to return them to parents/counselling center.

In my perspective too, one can't be working when still below 18 thus isn't self dependent.

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Sam, Mangalore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Correct. Also, let's not forget to look at this from the other perspective - The boy has certainly eloped, but from the girl's statement it is evident that she went willingly and there was no force whatsoever. Whether youngsters should run away on with boys of their own faith is a different matter, but this boy's life has just been destroyed even though it is pretty evident he did not commit a crime. We all know how long a case drags, and with these serious charges, he won't get out of jail for a long time irrespective of the verdict -all because both of them could not make an informed choice. And I know the kind of systemic bias in the law and order system that will ensure a boy like him will languish for a long time. While we talk on behalf of the girl's parents, let's spare a thought for his too. And remember the main point - Not Guilty of charges that have been slapped on him. This is precisely why we have laws- but unfortunately held hostage to a system that has been abused systematically. And this is precisely why the legal point of view is as important as the moral point of view

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Sam,

You seem to be much concerned about the future of the boy who is an adult, who could have been married a girl of his own community - why elope and make matters worse ? He should have thought about the consequences, instead of you pleading for public sympathy on his behalf ? Whats your gain anyway ?

To be more secure, he could have eloped with a girl of his own community - why didn't he ? They both would have been married by now because they are governed by a different marriageable age limit !

Read my first comment gentleman, where I clearly stated his/their double standards !

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Sam, Mangalore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
I think I've made my point enough. the fact is that the charges are false. Likewise, I can say that you are hell bent on sending people to jail for what could be termed a lack of judgement. We can go on and on about religion,caste c and who they should have married, and who shouldn't. The law is the same for everybody, irrespective of who you want to marry. if we want to look at everything from a purely religion/caste/language perspective, then god bless us all. Thanks

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Sam,

Am I to start the song all over again ? A union of two adults i.e. marriage is not lasting just until the day they marry but starts on that day. We in India contribute to multi-religious society that requires harmony among all communities, not abducting members of the other and become cause of communal clashes.

Secondly, a marriage results with extension of family where, the mother is the first teacher and religion is taught before any other education in India. As such, there needs to be a decision as to whose religion will be followed by the family - mother's or father's ? Obviously fathers because the child inherits father's family name. As such, a girl, married to a man of different religion is expected to convert to her husband's religion ? A convert, being a novice, how correctly will she teach a child ? Even out of freedom of religion, she doesn't convert, whose religion the child will adopt ? Tell me !

All said and done, I think to be blowing a trumpet before a buffalo. What a waste of time !

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Sam, Mangalore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
I guess I was mistaken in assuming I'd be in a civil debate when i responded to your thread on what was originally my comment. I didn't jump in to comment first, you did. Also, I don't have the time or inclination to go through the entire comments section and read your initial point just because you want everybody to. I was making an important legal point, which you probably still don't understand. The fact that you're still manufacturing an argument for the sake of it is evident when you talk of 'abduction' despite my point that there clearly is evidence of the charges pointing to be false. You could generalize to your heart's content, but my patience is being stretched with these ridiculous arguments.I don't have the time to stretch this further, particularly when it's like banging one's head against a very thick wall. You can keep going, but that's it from me.

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Sam, Mangalore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Prima facie, it looks like the girls knew exactly what they were doing - judging by the statement that she did not want to join her parents. Religion, caste and all other issues apart, legally they just cannot call it a kidnapping if the girl chooses to run with a boy on her own. In India, adults have the rights to choose their partners - at least is is the law for today. You may not like their choices, you may not like the fact that they choose outside their communities, but this is the freedom given to all Indians. Legally, this certainly looks like a false case

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Sam,

I agree with every word you say. But to make a choice of/about themselves, they are supposed to be working and able to be living a life independent of their parents' contribution - not when still in school !

I tell this to my children - until they are dependents, they are supposed to be obedient to those who look after them. All their tantrums/demands will be tolerated/granted/honored when they rule their own life !

Do you know one thing ? Its only when your own earned money comes to your hand, you learn to be responsible because you know how difficult it is to earn a Rupee and how much difficult it must have been for your parents to raise to this age. And, at that time of your life you don't do mistakes like eloping !

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Sam, Mangalore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Lydia
You're making a pertinent moral point, but nowhere in the article does it say they were schoolchildren. If they were, any marriage would be null and void anyway, so the argument doesn't stand. They may be young, but it certainly doesn't sound like they were minors. As adults law gives them the right to choose. If the boy had used force, it was a different matter, but it looks like the boys were gullible too. They may have trusted the girl to make an informed choice, and ended up having an (evidently false) case of kidnapping and rape thrust on them. This is precisely why there was supposed to be a law in this country. Let's learn to look at things in perspective. Thanks

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Rudolf, Mumbai
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Lydia, 'supposed to listen' and 'actually listening to commands' from parents is totally different!!

You views would have held good 25 years ago!! Today's teenagers are much smarter than parents and know how to easily hoodwink them!! Your 'authoritarian' technique of bringing up kids is no more VALID!!

At a very young age teenagers are exposed to hardcore porn etc. either intentionally or unintentionally because of easily availability of the same on net and phones etc.!!

Sexual mingling of very young teenagers has reached very high proportions mostly among the elite and rich, but do you read any news report concerning an elite or rich well to do family-NO, why because they do not want to wash dirty linen in public unless otherwise it is 'real rape'!! Only cases of lower middle class and sometimes middle class are publicized regularly in media because of involvement of vested interests and trouble makers in the name of religion, caste et al!!

Lastly love understands no religion, it is blind!!! Jai Hind!!

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abd, mlore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Wy in this case both are sickulars.. don't they have any other job other then this..??

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Ronston Saldhana, mangaluru
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Mr. Akrashad... how could you

Guys just ignore above msg fron akarshad and no need to follow who is roaming or dating with religion guy
mind your own businesses and live peacefully happily.

No need to snoop all have their own future and work.

Hahahahah

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Santosh, Udupi/Bahrain
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Teenage is a very dangerous age. Without proper guidance from parents both young boys and girls may chose the wrong path. I don't thing there is anything communal in such cases. Girls fall for good looking boys who have money too. And we all know who good looking boys with money to waste in mangalore are.

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Jamal, Mangalore/UAE
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Dear Santhosh,
Agreed Teen age is really a tender age and one has to be really careful of young girls. Only proper guidance is required. I will not blame all on parents. Secondly it turns to be communal when third party intervenes and gives it a colour. But I have one issue why you people always comment every now and then good looking boys. I really don't understand.

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kamath, mangalore bangalore
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Akarshad

i doubt you live in England..
i noticed many times you always jump into conclusion .. have habit of reading news.. don't just enjoy the comments

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Abu Safwan, Al Khobar
Sun, Jun 28 2015
This all happens because lack of religious (deeni) knowledge. Parents please give more importance to deeni knowledge other than duniyavi knowledge.

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kamath, mangalore bangalore
Sun, Jun 28 2015
exactly what you want to say.. we don't understand Arabic or any that language which you are using before knowledge

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Akarshad, England
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Joke of the Day, LOL

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Thousif , Manglore Bolar
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Simply lieing those girls went with them by there own they enjoyed and last came back .. But parents suffer because of thise idiots ..

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Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait
Sun, Jun 28 2015
No guts to blackmail their community girls for fear of being butchered.
Also, we should blame the girls who fall for money, looks and comforts. Aaadat se majboor.

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Zuhair, Udupi/Muscat
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Police should probe and find out who has forced this girl to change her statement.. The cases like this which is nothing beyond simple love affair are busted out of proportion and portrayed as love jihaad.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Zuhair,

Imagine a girl from your community had done that with a Hindu boy - you guys may have butchered her by now, leave alone make her change the statement.

For once, at-least advise your brothers to stay within the community while seeking women ? Aren't your women raising voice against this double standard of keeping them confined but men wander around seeking women from other communities ?

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Zuhair, Udupi/Muscat
Sun, Jun 28 2015
madam, few days back our community girl got married to a bus conductor of other community, now did she get butchered. come on, open your eyes, both communities are victim of this problem.

i will advise my brother but you should also advise ur sisters... "thaali ek haath se nahi bajti"

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kamath, mangalore bangalore
Sun, Jun 28 2015
they don't butcher its old.. nowadays they convert the boy to islam.. many times they convert even family and friends of that boy.. i don't know how one can leave his religion for a girl..

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Zuhair,

Please don't think that me or rest of the readers have seen just this news and reacting on it. If we recall all past cases as you have pulled up one, you certainly know which side of the scale will be heavier.

It requires just one spark, if women start pouring out about suppression they undergo, you will vanish.

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zuhair, udupi/muscat
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Miss lobo
To make u understand better

When a employee leaves an organization to join another, its not always the case that he was lured or forced to join the other org. Most of the time he himself walks in for interview for better future. So the HR instead of crying foul he must ensure his company better place livable.

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TP Abdul Khader, Mangalore
Mon, Jun 29 2015
Ms "Lobo', This is precisely the sort of ignorant generalization that is the root cause for all the hatred and prejudice. People can make ridiculous statements such as 'If it your community, she would be butchered' and get away without bothering to check facts - simply because the prejudice and ignorance is so overwhelming that they dont think they need. I have personally seen many women of my community who married outside - yes, many did not have parental sanction, but they ended up accepting it without even even to file a 'kidnapping' case as seems to be the case when it is the other way round. IN fact, the reason they dont end up in news is there is no right wing group to te a furore about it. Let people try and understand each other instead of letting their ignorance and prejudices rule their imaginations

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India First, mangaluru
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Tell me one incidence in India where girl was butchered for having an illicit relationship.

One or two people do it and we should correct mentally rather than going physical.
we need to educate them the consequences whatever hurdle comes.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Zuhair,

I must remind you that a person in life may have left a job and searched for a better one several times but a life partner is one until death (or legal separation). Unless of-course if you have a social set up different than that all Indians follow.

Therefore, please do not compare human relationships with employment.

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Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait
Sun, Jun 28 2015
It looks like the effect of moral police is being banned or pronounced as immoral rowdies by the SP in recent days, the immoral activities started picking up!

Jossy, these girls are eating prohibited apples.

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mohan, mangalore
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Its parents duty to teach their children moral and value of society and also they must teach their girls to stay away from these love jihadist.

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Akarshad, England
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Once Again Love Jihad Prooved, Parents take care of your children. please make them understand the consequences. Its so traging that these young girls get brain washed by these fascist guys<. Please keep an eye on who they roam and also try to avoid as much as possible not to mingle with other community, its definately a threat to nation. I just wanna Pray to God for the parents who face shamefull Image because of these guys who spoilt the image of these innocent young girls for life.

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India First, India
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Not learning even after reading so many news and incidents ???

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri
Sun, Jun 28 2015
First of all, young men, please stop dating girls outside your community. Don't think girls who come liberally dressed and mix with opposite gender are cheap, they are as precious as women of your own community.

Secondly, girls, schooling time is not made for romance, you have a responsibility bestowed on you by your parents. Your parents have certain expectations from you, at lest that of maintaining dignity of the entire family.

Please do not gamble with the trust your parents rested on you and do not at all take your parents for granted. With you one wrong move, entire family goes into tatters, including the future of your younger siblings.

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Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Lydia Madam.....I fully agree with your comments. When we write comments against their mischiefs few of them take it personal….but always they fails to understand the common disease prevailing in our region. No doubt these girls are also responsible to certain extent but we can’t blame them completely for their behavior as long as these cowards luring them with some fake identities. Had it happened vice versa in similar case, we would have seen bombardments of comments in this forum

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Rudolf, Mangalore/Mumbai
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Your advise if fine, but it does not work practically as during this age the surge of 'hormones' hijacks sanity and it is true for all humans, even we have gone through that phase, it would be hypocritical to say no to this!! Now, some overcome it and some fall to the hormonal hijack!!

Do you know the ground reality today that the age for commencement of sexual activity has come to below 15 years in metro cities and many do not hesitate to have even multiple partners without any guilt whatsoever, this is the fact believe it or not!! We have to accept times have changed drastically in every aspect not excluding sexuality!!

In both the above cases, it clearly appears to be a case of elopement which was turned to kidnap later on after brainwashing the so called victims!! Jai Hind!!

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Zuhair, Udupi/Muscat
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Madam Lydia, The Problem is you have spent your college days in the first bench of the class room and left home with the first available bus in the evening and unaware what happened in your back. Today's generation a boy doesn't have to lure girls for date or affair, its other way around.

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gm, mlur
Sun, Jun 28 2015
begin with love ends in tragedy.

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hans, udupi
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Begins with Love or Lust ?

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Peter Lewis, Kalmady/k s a
Sun, Jun 28 2015
At least in School Lady teachers need to teach morals to girls separately 7th std onwards once in a year.

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Sameer, Mangalore
Sun, Jun 28 2015
Fishy. If the girl clearly said she went on her own with the guy and did not want to join her family, how was her family given access to later and then they suddenly file a kidnapping case? In earlier days lovers used to elope with each other and that was end of story. Nowadays, it becomes kidnapping ending with arrest. With a biased police force, the guy has no hope for justice either

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Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai
Sun, Jun 28 2015
These girls are eating food or ...

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