'BJP, RSS had no role in freedom fight' - Ramya courts another controversy


Daijiworld Media Network-Bangaluru

Bengaluru, Aug 31 : Controversies are following Ramya wherever she goes. When she is yet to recover from her Pakistan not hell and Mangaluru hell comments, she courted another controversy on Tuesday August 30 by saying, BJP and Congress never fought for India's freedom, instead they had joined the British during the freedom fight.

Ramya was speaking after the National Students' Union rally held in Bengaluru was over. "Only Congress had fought for India's freedom from British. We have people from all walks of life who represent different language, religion, culture. So we should see all of them as equals," she told media.

Soon after her statement was aired in some local television channels, opposition started attacking Ramya. Shobha Karandlaje was the first to react "I think Pakistan air has consumed her. Looking at her statement, I doubt whether she studied at Carmel College. She does not have knowledge of history at all. Shyamprasad Mukerjee, Savarkar, and others from RSS fought for freedom, better she go to school again." said Shobha.

MP Pratap Simha reacting to Ramya's statement said “Ramya is trying to become another Rahul Gandhi or at least Karnataka's Rahul Gandhi by giving foolish statements like Congress vice president. She is also lying that, she attended Pakistan Parliamentary Summit. When I checked the list of people who attended the Summit, her name is not appearing,"

JDS leader and former CM Kumaraswamy, reacting to Ramya’s statement said sarcastically “It looks like Ramya is trying to become a big political leader by giving controversial statements to media. It's not now irrelevant who brought freedom to country. I was not born during the independence, but do not know whether Ramya was born at that time,”

Senior freedom fighter Doreswamy in response to Ramya’s remarks said that, Ramya's statement was wrong. “Hindu Mahasabha was part of India's freedom fight. Savarkar was also part of it. But Savarkar had chosen violent ways in freedom fight. “ he added.

 

  

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  • gabriel, sagar

    Fri, Sep 02 2016

    “Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift of God, which is why we call it the present.”

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  • timvivek, mysore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    What she said is right and correct. Where BJP, RSS, sangapqrivar, Ramasene no one fought for Independence. Congress rule RSS was outlawed organisation in India. Today they are superstars in BJPs government.


    But those who stood for India is great.
    Where These groups reject Christianity, and Islam as a whole, make proud of them selves to win the public intention to win a election.
    Where this religious sentiments not even carry the Body of dead mother weather she is Hindu or Muslim or Christian. Because she is from a backward community.

    Where they claim to prove the religious supremacy.

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  • Sudarhsan, ganjimut

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    I see here psudos are ready to support any anti national speeches or pakistani supporters. This psudos are nothing but jealous of our beloved PM and his success. JAlo Jalo Jalo

    As far as Ramya she want to be LAdy Pappu in Karnataka and nothing else.

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  • Ajith, mangalore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Dont fight we r indians........

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  • philip serrao, mangalore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    this is all BULLSHIT. it is clear to all that irrespective of religions and class it was the INDIANS who fought for the freedom of our great nation India. if we are in a bad state now its the politicians from all the parties who are responsible for it.

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  • RSRB, Kundapura / Singapore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Whoever brought the freedom, I am sure Ramya did not participate...

    If she is reading the articles and claiming so, then probably she did not read the stories of both sides..

    By the way, "NO ROLE" is better then "WRONG ROLE" which congress adopted by kicking out Subhash Chandra Bose from Congress, otherwise he would have brought freedom to India in 1930s....

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    EVEN YOU GOT THE FREEDOM 1947 AS A WHOLE NATION WHAT WE ACHIEVED !! ONLY CORRUPTION AND PROVED WINSTON CHURCHILL WAS RIGHT !

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    RSRB,

    Ramya did not participate in freedom struggle, nor did I. Does that mean that we transfer the glory of hardships our ancestors endured to someone else ?

    RSS was a hardcore organisation assembled bombs on the path of British and killed them thinking the invaders will flee out of fear. It was the likes of Mahatma Gnadhi who marched bare-foot and vowed to fast until death if a certain tax/curb was not withdrawn. It was Gandhi who helped people of Champaran or Kheda. Even Shyam Prasad Mukherjee whom Karandlaje mentions, was in Congress, was the PM until he fell out with Nehru and formed Bhjaratiya Jana Sangh (that was later on named BJP). Where is RSS that she mentions ?? As for Savarkar, he was against Quit-India Movement and was a member of Abhinav Bharat. He was even one of the accused in Gandhi's murder but later got acquitted.

    Now tell me - did the British humble down to Gandhi's Satyagraha, or to the bombs of ABhinav Bharat ?

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  • P. Shirish Kumar, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    So, Nehru family adopted Mahatma Gandhiji's Surname & and started dictatorship by in India.

    They think India is their family property & even the senior most of Congress party should take Fake Gandhi, so called High command's permission for every move.

    These Fake Gandhies loot the wealth of common people and deposit in Swiss Bank as well grab Indian land.

    Fake Gandhi are the shameless and don't want other Citizen of India ruling the country nor true development.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Mr. Shirish Kumar,

    States elected a government to rule but a parent body of the elected government dictates. How do you like that ? Similarly, if Congress prefers being dominated by a particular family, why should it worry you ?

    Gandhi gave his own surname to Nehru's Son-in-law, voluntarily. How is that a worry to you ? As-it-is, legally wedded wife taking up her husband's surname is not easily getting down your throats. Better you leave alone surname letting-borrowing issues !

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  • akhilesh, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    @ Lydia...wonder where bhagat singh and chandrashekar azad went in your history comments...the entire world knows the why india was partionised...thanks to gandhi and nehru's historic pact!!!! wow...did we need such a Independence where we are always at loggerheads with pak????

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  • Noel, Mangalore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Ramya is right on both statements: that people of Pakistan treated her nicely(They have treated me nicely too when I met them outside of Pakistan.I oppose Pakistani terrorist acts). and RSS/BJP did not participate in Quit India movement.(hardly any evidence the leadership /followers were major supporters.Wasn't Nathuram Godse who shot Gandhi a RSS member?.RSS/BJP should focus on improving the life Dalits rather focusing on reactionary acts based their own version hinduism/patriotism.

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  • peter, brahmavar

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Wrong reason for in Jail also claiming they are freedom fighters. Godse also freedom fighter but when he killed Mahatma Ghandi RSS says he is not belonging to RSS.

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  • geoffrey , hat hill

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Whatever she felt, she's expressed boldly unlike some of the commenters who use pseudonym while commenting. Her courage will take her to places.

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  • akhilesh, Managalore/Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Congress won independence for us!!! joke of the century!!!....the beloved nehru had a good time with mrs mountabatten whilst he happily signed a treaty for the country to be teared into 2!!!! here this lady has the audacity to say congress fought???? Really!!! to all the dongis and sanghis please list out the names of these freedom fighters that you guys are contesting about and supporting this useless MP who was literally kicked out of mandya!!!!

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  • kr, mlore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Rss was not participate independent but Hindu participate for freedom

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    If Hindu took part then why not RSS?

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  • Rk Moodbidri, Moodbidri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Eureka!!!! Ramya Madam..."It is like Why Virat Kohli ( Born in 1988)did not play in 1983 WC with kapil dev )

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    RK,

    You are incorrect in your sarcasm about RSS because RSS was there much before India got independence : Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh/Founded - September 27, 1925, Nagpur, India

    Well your point is true as regards to BJP : Bharatiya Janata Party/Founded - April 6, 1980, India

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  • Senna, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    I support Ramya. A young lady who has the guts to tell these right wing elements that they are all lying. More power to her.

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  • JK, Udupi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Looks like she was transplanted into pappu's brain.

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  • RUDOLPH, MANGALORE

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Jossy,

    OurRammya will hitSixer.

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  • Oliver Machado, Udupi - Sharjah

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Nobody seems to have enough courage to face Ramya and confront her.Statements are made behind her back just as good as the spineless cowards.Hot air and rage.Ramya is an upright confident women and needs to be appreciated for standing tall

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Nashville

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Next over will be bowled by PAPPU ...

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  • Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya..Only in Mangalore,pepople had thrown Egss at you..Now,from All over India,people are ready to throw Eggs after this Stupid and Nonsense remark..

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  • tony d'souza, mangalore/usa

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    See the disagree from her followeres and can make out the quality of general knowledge.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Why? Because only good at throwing eggs and stones to suppress her speech and not able to give verbal/ press media replies?

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  • Ajith, mangalore

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    correct..........

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  • BhakSala, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    with all due respect to Ramya ji you did all enough nautanki in reel life which people never liked now I strictly instruct Ramya ji not to do nautanki in real life which people will nay ways not like and this is my strict order

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  • Bollu, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    For knickerwala people freedom came in 2014.So Ramya is 100% correct.

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya is not even a graduate to understand the contribution of RSS to freedom struggle. So an uneducated can only talk like of her mentor Pappu. But surprisingly the educated lot of Mangalore too support her stupid statements. So does education and stupidity go hand in hand or stupidity complements lack of education ?

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  • Pratap Rao, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    If Ramya is not educated so are most of the people in the Sangh Parivar. They are not even SSLC failed. For the truth she has said and the stand she took we should stand by her. The RSS not only did not fight for freedom then it is also not for freedom now

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  • Kamath, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Freedom fighters does not belong to any political party or any caste .They fought for freedom of their country.These useless politicians who hv no other jobs are creating controversy by saying such statements

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  • Raghu, Bedra

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    If RSS fight for freedom..then why GODSE killed our Mahathma Gandhiji..

    So confusion is cleared.

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  • Amith, udupi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    BJP was formed after all sanghis who worked with british failed in their mission to stop congress from getting independence ...and when sardar patel wanted to ban RSS ..quietly vajpayee and others moved on to form a party ..now there is no BJP ..its Beef Janatha Party..and they are born after may 14th 2014

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, MANAMA

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    RAMYAJI, YOU SAID CORRECTLY, BJP AND RSS HAD NO ROLE IN FREEDOM FIGHT, BUT THEY HAD GREAT ROLE IN KILLING OF MAHATMA!!

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  • Praveen , Kulshekar

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    If RSS contributed in the freedom struggle then why did Godse kill Gandhi,is it because RSS wanted freedom from Gandhi or INC.

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  • RAMESH POOJARY, UDUPI

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Shobha Karandlaje was the first to react "I think Pakistan air has consumed her. Looking at her statement, I doubt whether she studied at Carmel College. She does not have knowledge of history at all. Shyamprasad Mukerjee, Savarkar, and others from RSS fought for freedom, better she go to school again." said Shobha
    ಶೊಭ ಟೀಚರ್.. ನಮ್ಮ ಶಾಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಶ್ಯಾಮ್ ಪ್ರಸಾದ್ ಮುಖರ್ಜಿ,ಸವರ್ಕರ್ ಆರ್ ಎಸ್ ಎಸ್ ನವರು ಭಾರತದ ಸ್ವಾತ೦ತ್ರಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ಹೊರಡಿದರು ಎ೦ದು ಕಲಿಸಿ ಕೊಡಲೆ ಇಲ್ಲ..ಪರ್ವಗಿಲ್ವೆ ..ನಿಮ್ಮ ಶಾಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ನಿಮಗೆ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿ ಆರ್ ಎಸ್ ಎಸ್ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಕಲ್ಸಿದ್ದರೆ..ಅದರು ನಿಮಗೆ ಬಿಜೆಪಿಗು ಪ್ರವಿಣ್ ಹತ್ಯೆಗು ಯಾವ ಸ೦ಬ೦ದವಿದೆ ಎ೦ದು ಇವತ್ತಿನವರೆಗು ತಿಳಿದೆ ಇಲ್ಲ ಪಾಪ..
    ಶೊಭ ಟೀಚರ್.. ಪ್ಲೀಸ್ ಹೆಳ್ತೀರಾ ನಮ್ಮ ದೇಶದಲ್ಲಿ ಇವಾಗ್ಲೂ ಬ್ರೀಟಿಶರು ಆಳ್ವಿಕೆ ನಡುಸುವುದು ಅಲ್ವಾ...

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  • shaan, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya did you know when is BJP founded? please go and learn about politics, its not like movie script, D'nt over act like Pappu(Rahul), People of india already throughed him dustbin last 2014 election.

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  • Krishna Dasa, Udupi

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    BJP was formed out of Jana sangha, Hindu Maha sabha & RSS to cover up the bad deeds of Upper class hindu fundamentalist people and group and protect them from disqualification.

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    sanghis were seen supporting the British and even trued to sabotage India's freedom movement.

    While Nehru was in jail, Savarkar wrote a letter to the British seeking early release in exchange for and assured that he wouldn't participate the the freedom movement.

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  • S.M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, Dubai

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    That everybody's know's except 2% Sanghi

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  • Mohammed, Kundapur/Qatar

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Tipu Sultan - First Freedom Fighter
    Ajazi,( Dr.) Maghfoor Ahmad
    Madani, Maulana Husain Ahmad
    Inayatullah Khan Mashriqi
    Subhani, Maulana Azad
    Col.Mahboob Ahmad
    Allama Iqubal
    Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan
    Hakim Ajmal Khan
    Bahadur Shah Zafar
    Begum Zeenat Mahal
    Allah Bakhsh Soomro
    Maulana Hifzur Rahman
    Mohammed Barkatullah
    Bibi Azizul Fatima
    Ashfaqulla Khan
    Ubaidullah Sindhi
    Begum Hazrat Mahal
    Bakht Khan
    Asaf Ali
    These all are Muslim Freedom Fighter and List Continues.....

    Can RSS and BJP show their Freedom Fighter List ???

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  • SKM, MANGALORE

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Although these people are freedom fighters ignore this list as its one sided

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  • shaan, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    NICE JOKE

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  • Nawaz, Udupi, Kuwait

    Fri, Sep 02 2016

    @Shaan, Please check the Muslim names mentioned in the list of freedom fighters in the India Gate of Delhi. (Check website)

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  • Albert, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    What about dawood, bhatkal brothers, Abu Salem, Zakir?

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  • Af,,, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Truth is always bitter,

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  • Dhanush, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    hi guys ignore her comment because part 2 is still going on. the flim name is.....?. Uski teacher ne History nahi padaya hoga isliye esa bolthi hi.O 20th century ka history pada hi na.Manglore peoples thoda engineering side rake HISTORY be pado.bena history pade judge math karo.

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  • Rakesh, Pune

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Only Rahul, Sonia and Ramya Participated in Freedom Strugle also supported by Diggi, Chidhi, Iyer and many more corrupt chamchas of Congress

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  • Vincy , Bangkok

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Dear Akka if RSS was into freedom fight then why your RSS hired Godse to kill Gandhi.?
    It is better listen what Ramya says and your knowledge.
    If Swamy says the same lines then you don't have any objections?
    It's 100 percent Congress in the next assembly.
    The educated youth knows who fought against the British and who went to jail.
    People might vote you if you agree that yes RSS killed the father of the nation.

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  • shaan, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    IN central Pappu(Rahul), In karnataka Beppu(Ramya)...

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Nashville

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Rahul & Ramya compliment each other ...

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  • steven, dxb

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Now the real BJP encounter is started by Congie. WOW Tigress is back!! this will be very interesting now. Go Ramya Go... phad de BJP ka faulthu feku nationalism ko.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    I have a small excerpt to defend Ramya's statement :

    "RSS didn't participate in the freedom movement even though its founder K. B. Hedgewar participated in the freedom movements. He wanted to have personal involvement in the struggle, but not bring his organization into it. That was pragmatic.

    Other than INC, none of the major political groups in India actually participated in the freedom movement. Jinnah's Muslim League didn't Ambedkar's ILP didn't Savarkar's Hindu Mahasabha didn't EV Ramaswamy's Justice party didn't. Even the Communists didn't for the most part.

    All these groups were quite nascent and their founders didn't want to get on the bad side of the British, thereby losing their movement and momentum"

    I believe the above is true but I will be glad to hear if readers have some other version of the topic.

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  • John Tauro, M'luru / Kwt

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    INC was established in 1885 with the sole objective of attaining independence from Britain. Other political parties were formed in the 1920s and 30s when Britain allowed self government. It’s no wonder Congress played a major role in the country’s struggle for independence. Mahatma Gandhi wanted INC to be disbanded soon after independence which didn’t happen.

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  • Krishna Dasa, Udupi

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Comparing to the size of their community Christians, Muslims and Farsi communities are on forefront on Freedom fight. Indian National Congress was founded by A.O Hume & Dr. Annie Basest and the INC was well represented by Muslims Christians and Farsi communities. BJP parent organization like Hindu Mahasaba, Jana Sangha, RSS stayed away from Freedom movement because of High cast untouchability. Comparing to the population a small number of educated Hindu persons later joined INC. RSS

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  • Mohammed, Kundapur/Qatar

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Truth is Always Bitter

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  • monu, perla

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    ramya's remarks = Wikipedia (Indian Independence movement)

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya, BJP founded in 1980. Your history teacher might have committed suicide after knowing your knowledge of history!

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  • Ahmed, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    It is not controversy, it's a true fact what Ramya said. We should not call it as a controversy when indeed it is a truth and 100% correct statement.

    Name's used by Shoba justifying as Freedom fighters were all British Stooge.

    You can't twist history books to portray them as Freedom Fighters as you can't suppress the truth. The more you try to suppress the more truth will come out.

    They thought it's been 70 years since Independence so the new generation can be easily fooled by twisting history portraying wrong people as Freedom Fighters.

    Portraying wrong people and group as Freedom Fighters is an insult and injustice on true freedom fighters who sacrificed their life.

    If they have little bit of shame and moral values these organization should not call themselves as Freedom fighters.

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  • Flavian, Mangaluru/Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Be grateful for all those who fought for our freedom and do not make a controversy after 70 years.
    Important is that let us uphold our values united and as One Indian irrespective of cast, creed, religion and from political party point of view.
    In the meantime of late it is noticed that we are deviating from secular to majority vs minority type of attitude. That is because of some Organizations like and Right-wing philosophy by RSS, VHP, Sangh parivar, Senas etc.

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  • MOHSIN AHMED, ABUDHABI

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    What's wrong in the statement? Whole World knows this... hoist the National flag at Nagpur HQ first.

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  • Vikas G, Udupi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Dear Lydia

    In a Rush to prove your assumption or as usual you completely twisted the line ".. I doubt whether she studied at Carmel College.." to propagate your propaganda.

    Any basic English reader understands what the above line meant, that what Shobha meant was " A alumni of Mt Carmel cant be this Dumb. She praised your institute lady, get a life. Come, on...so much desperation !!!

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Now Vikas,

    Is Shobha agreeing with Ramya that RSS/BJP had no role in Freedom fight or disagreeing ?

    If Ramya is (as per Shobha) a Carmel student, so is Shobha a St. Philomina student ? So, who is right ? Ramya in saying RSS had no role in the struggle or Shobha's disagreeing to it (meaning RSS did play a role in the struggle) by highlighting Ramya's little knowledge in history ?

    Please give name of one RSS leader who stood by Mahatma Gandhi and did satyagraha for freedom of India ???

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  • Vikas G, Udupi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Don't jump around the bush and divert the topic. I don't care about what Ramya or Shoba said. I pointed out your Ramya types GooF Up. Lets talk about that. Naanu mangalooru Naraka antha elliyu hellilla, ondhu channel maathra helithu....

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    "Looking at her statement, I doubt whether she studied at Carmel College"

    Vikas,

    Read the above sentence and tell me why one will not think that Shobha was casting doubt about Ramya being studied in a Christian college because Ramya is favouring Pakistan ?

    In other words, she is indirectly saying that Christian schools teach the students to favour Pakistan. To my horror Shobha too happened to be studied in a Christian School as well as a college - why isn't she favouring Pakistan then ?

    I am nowhere wrong in perceiving Shobha's implication, I can't help it if you are bent on getting me caught ! Try harder next time !

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  • Vikas G, Udupi

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    Haha Lydia bai, just below you agreed with Mr Lewis when he shared my opinion and in the same page u turn now?
    What comment of Shobha you wanted to keep for the future to take on any sanhghis who may accuse Christian institutes of conversion?... you are out caught behind and hit wicket at the same time. It's OK for the comment sake you don't have to agree it.

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  • The Guru, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya JI, BJP was not formed when British was in India.. and the congress which you are referring was not a party during pre-independence, but it was organization, due to which Gandhi said to dissolve congress once India got independence.

    How many you are so called congress netas died in the hands of British fighting for Independence????

    Most of them helped British to divide Into 3 parts - Nehru and Gandhi who signed these agreements

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  • Ramesh S, MANGALORE

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    ..RAMYA should know that RSS had taken part in Independence day (or republic day) fast march..if there is no contribution, then why they are allowed..its choice of political affiliation (with BJP) made RSS a villain for Congress..otherwise ask DIGGY, how he sought help from them to become CM.. history is distorted and successful efforts are made to systematically brainwash people..no Road, building, Airport, university, dam, canal, maidan spared without naming a single family just to imprint the brains..visit a Govt office, normally you will find INDIRA photo eventhough after Nehru, there was Gulzarilal Nanda, Shastri as PM..then why INDIRA!!..

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  • DINESH SHIVAPPA SHETTIGAR, DUBAI

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Actually congress is a poison for India, they don't know even their father's name properly.

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  • Hussain, Abudhabi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    At least she didn't say Nehru and Bose were hanged by British !! We all know which political party needs proper education on Indian HISTORY !!

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  • Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya has BHAYANKARA GK like Pappu..Made for each other..First of all Ramya must read History Books again..I want to ask her how many Congresmen were hanged by British in Freedom struggle ? She can't name one..

    I want her to study about below mentioned Freedom fighters who were hanged by British and they were NOT from Congress

    1.Bhagat Singh

    2.Chandra Shekar Azad

    3.Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose who was Anti Congress and started fighting with British for India from some other country,died in a plane crash as per unconfirmed report

    4.Veer Savarkar

    5.Ras Bihari Bose

    6.Jatindra Nath Mukharjee (Bhaga Jatin,who single handedly killed Tiger with his hand in a fight while hiding in forest to escape from British.

    7.Vasudev Rao Balwant Phadake (Who broke Jail Bars in Andaman,escaped but caught by Briitish Army after 4 days.He was in semi unconscious stage without food and water when British caught him..He was hanged in Andaman only.

    I can give hundreds of Freedom fighters list..Above list is a sample one..I read about them during my shood days..Some stories are so emotional even I can recollect it as if I read just now.They are in my heart forever..

    Ramya..Sorry..Please be in CONGRESS only..That is the right party for you..

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  • S.S.D'Souza, Udupi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Except for V D Savarkar, no one had affiliation with RSS, neither they were congressmen. Phadke was imprisoned in Aden, were he broke the prison, recaptured in 4 days, went on a hunger strike, as a result of that he died. He was not hanged.

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  • Sampath, Mlore/ Blore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Of all these people named above... who are from RSS... niether Bhagath Singh not Azad...

    Veer Savarkar was from Hindu Mahasabha, was not hanged but died in 26 February 1966 at the age of 83 after renouncing food water and medicine....

    Dont be under the wrong impression that these people were not from congress so do they are als not from RSS....

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  • Hussain, Abudhabi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    What's wrong in the statement? Whole World knows this

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  • Nasir, Bajpe

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    What she said is true

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  • Rajesh, Manglore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    See another Rahul Ghandhi.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Alright Rajesh...Lets save India from having another Rahul Gandhi !

    Please give the names of BJP/RSS members who participated in Freedom struggle of India ???

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  • Annu, Kudla

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    News at times are ignored while the comments are at priority, look at the news and you will find the answer.

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  • ABC, Manglore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Lydia Lobo, please dont talk anything if you dont know, what Ramya has said is absolutely foolish, she'z insulting our freedom fighters. and you want to know the names?? ask with grandparents and they will tell you who is Bhagath singh, Balagangadhar tilak, subhash chandra bose etc......

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    ABC,

    Bhagat Singh :
    He worked with several revolutionary organisations and became prominent in the Hindustan Republican Association (HRA), which changed its name to the Hindustan Socialist Republican Association (HSRA) in 1928.

    Balagangadhar Tilak :
    He was the first leader of the
    Indian Independence Movement.

    Subhash Chandra Bose :
    He was the founder of the Indian National Army

    All three leaders you mentioned have no affiliation with RSS/BJP. Please give more names so that I take back my comment.

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  • Ahmed, Bangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    It is not controversy, it's a true fact what Ramya said. We should not call it as a controversy when indeed it is a truth and 100% correct statement.

    Name's used by Shoba justifying as Freedom fighters were all British Stooge.

    You can't twist history books to portray them as Freedom Fighters as you can't suppress the truth. The more you try to suppress the more truth will come out.

    They thought it's been 70 years since Independence so the new generation can be easily fooled by twisting history portraying wrong people as Freedom Fighters.

    Portraying wrong people and group as Freedom Fighters is an insult and injustice on true freedom fighters who sacrificed their life.

    If they have little bit of shame and moral values these organization should not call themselves as Freedom fighters.

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  • krishna, mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    to sacrifise rahul for you statement

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  • sandeep, Mang

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Another cartoon character Chutki in chor party.

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  • P.A.Shanu, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Let us agree on what Shobakka says for a moment but it is become her duty now to clarify us the part of RSS or Sangh Parivaar in freedom fight of India.
    Mr.Doraiswami said yesterday that none of the RSs nowhere at the freedom struggle but a party called Hindu Maha Sabha has been contributed somewhere.

    We can expect reply from Shobakka but she cant since she dont have.

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  • james, udupi

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Its Total Mental case like Papu # Its Real Challenge to to Medical field and Doctors.... No Medicinr

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Non Hoisting of National flag at Nagpur HQ proves her stand ....

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    As per piece of small advice of Socrates, before giving advice or criticize, it should pass following test:
    1. What we are saying is true?
    2. Whether it will be for good?
    3. Whether it is now necessary?
    Let's see in that perspective:
    1. Except for Shyamprasad Mukerjee and Savarkar, no contributions and their efforts didn't yield any result. Are they belonged to RSS? RSS denies Gandhi's killer Nathuram Godse belonging to them. So statement partly true!
    2. However statement will not bring any thing good for her or anybody.
    3. Finally it's not necessary.

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  • Ramesh S, MANGALORE

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    ..Congress will become a laughingstock, if they allow her to speak..these celebrities come from entertainment Industry, has less political knowledge..its not their fault..use them for rallies, not for teaching history..first these people should be taught that its not the present congress which faught Independence..The old Congress had every one including JP,Savarkar,Jinnah..Jinnah formed Pakistan, Bose disassociate himself from Congress and formed new party 'Forward block'..didnt they faught for Independence..present Congress is a family party like JDS/SP/DMK which split more than 5 times..

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  • SB, Mlore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya is a Chalavane illadha naanya now. After Ambarish resigned, this lady packed her bags off to Mandya a started her Gramavaasa dramas again in a hope that she would get a Congress ticket next time. For that she wants some publicity now good or bad. BJP simply giving free publicity for her.

    If Congress gives ticket to Ramya next time, rebels themselves will make sure she will loose, and this girl will run to Sm krishans residence sobbing that our own dongis are not supporting your daughter. Prathap simha is wrong, Ramya is not Rahul gandhi of karnataka, she is Rakhi Sawanth or Qandeel Balloch of karnataka.

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  • Kumar, Kaikamba

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    What Ms Ramya said is 200% right. History covering our freedom fight has authentic facts to prove her stand....

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  • stan, udupi/dubai

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Truth really hurts.

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    SHE LEARN THE CHEAP PUBLICITY HOW TO GET IT AND STAY IN NEWS FOR MONTHS

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Shobha Karandlaje accuses Ramya to be saying all of this because she may has studied in Carmel college, see where Shobha Karandlaje studied in her own words :

    "I pursued PUC and degree in St. Philomena's College, Puttur while MSW I completed from Roshani Nilay Mangalore, Mangalore University"

    Why is Krandlaje not talking in favour of Pakistan if its a school that influences a person's opinions and if studying in Christian schools make them talk in favour of Pakistan !

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  • Valerian Lewis, Udupi/Kuwait

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Lydia mam,Shobha said "I doubt whether she studied in Carmel college.It seems Shobha being a sanghi have respect towards Christian institute.Correct me if I am wrong.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Mr. Lewis,

    Lets keep this information for a later-on use whenever some foul mouths come out saying 'Christian institutions involve in conversion'.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    "It seems Shobha being a sanghi have respect towards Christian institute"

    Vikas,

    Its this sentence of Mr. Lewis that I referred to, when I told him that we will keep this information for a later-on use.

    Don't arrive to your own assumptions !

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  • LAWRENCE LOBO, MANGALORE.

    Wed, Aug 31 2016


    WHATEVER SHE SAID IS CORRECT.

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Ramya is saying the truth.

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  • shaan, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Did you know wen BJP Party founded?.. Just go back & read history..

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  • sayed, Mangalore / Dammam

    Thu, Sep 01 2016

    old wine in new bottle... it was Jana Sang changed to BJP.

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Wed, Aug 31 2016

    Lame talks !!

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