Gujarat model: Why I differ with Fr Frazer Mascarenhas of St Xavier's, Mumbai





By Vivian Fernandes

Apr 23: In an email to students of St Xavier’s College, Mumbai, its principal Fr Frazer Mascarenhas has questioned the Gujarat model with its emphasis on private enterprise and growth, while favouring a rights and entitlements approach to development, which is the hallmark of the present government at the Centre (see Times of India, 23 April edition). ‘All the human development index indicators and the cultural polarization of the population show that Gujarat has had a terrible experience in the last ten years,’ says Fr Mascarenhas.


Fr Frazer Mascarenhas

Since I have written a book called 'Modi: Leadership, Governance and Performance' (available on amazon.in), I feel compelled to dissect the assertions of Fr Mascarenhas (Fr FM), though I am by no means an apologist for Modi, but see myself as an journalist prejudiced towards Constitutional values and free markets. So here goes:



Fr FM: ‘The prospect of an alliance of corporate capital and communal forces coming to power constitutes a real threat to the future of our secular democracy.’

My response: The Gujarat model, since the BJP came to power in 1995, has been to combine economic development with Hindu cultural nationalism. In this sense, it is like the Chinese model which welds Han nationalism and economic development.

The rise of communal forces (Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian), because they are socially conservative, poses a threat to civil liberties in general. This includes, the freedom to practice the religion of one’s choice (secularism), the freedom to pursue one’s lifestyle (going to a discotheque, socializing in a bar, choosing a life partner), freedom of expression (including the right to offend, so long as it is not hate speech), the freedom of sexual orientation, and equality between the sexes. The difference between Mulayam Singh’s so called secular Samajwadi Party, the communal Bharatiya Janata Party and, to give an example nearer home, the Christian Secular Forum (an oxymoron) is one of degrees, not substance.

Big business and politics joining hands is a threat to democracy. Often, the two do not need to join hands, because they are one. Many of our politicians are big businessmen themselves. In fact, entry into politics makes their businesses grow. Crony capitalism poses a threat to democracy and it is not just confined to Gujarat. Why are Mumbai’s real estate prices so high? It is because of the cozy nexus between builders and politicians. Businessmen joining politics by themselves do not pose a threat to democracy. New York’s former mayor Michael Bloomberg (he did an excellent job), is a billionaire himself. It is when they use their political access to aggrandize themselves that the problem occurs. We need to reform campaign finance, have vigilant regulators of integrity (a tall order) and a justice system where punishment for corporate malfeasance is quick and certain.



Fr FM: Schools of the ordinary populace (in Gujarat) show abject neglect with a very high dropout rate in the last ten years. Higher education has not been allowed to move forward.

My response: Gujarat’s literacy rate according to the last census was 79 percent, a ten percentage point gain over the previous census. (Literacy among women has moved up by 13 percentage points to 71 percent over ten years). This places Gujarat 18th on the list among Indian states and union territories. But rankings give a false impression. Tamil Nadu’s literacy rate is 80 percent and it is hailed for combining welfare with economic development. Karnataka’s is 76 percent.

In the past ten years, the number of schools in Gujarat has more than doubled to 34,000. Most of these (80 percent) are government schools, unlike in Kerala, where sixty percent of schools are private.

In terms of learning ability, Gujarati students are as worse off as students elsewhere, but that is poor consolation. According to the benchmark, Annual Survey of Education Report (ASER), after eight years of schooling, only 35 percent of rural Gujarat students could do division, the same as in Maharashtra. Tamil Nadu students did somewhat better.
 
The net enrolment rate (right aged students in a class) is 84 percent in Gujarat’s primary schools, compared to 90 percent in Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra, and 88 percent in Karnataka. This drops to 67 percent in upper primary in Gujarat, 76 percent in Tamil Nadu, 71.5 percent in Maharashtra and 74.6 percent in Karnataka. This is independent data obtained from the state report cards compiled by the Delhi-based National University for Education Planning and Administration (NEUPA).

Gujarati society traditionally placed less emphasis on education and more on business or getting on in life. That is changing. The government itself has taken a number of steps to ensure that no child is left behind and I have detailed this in my book.

But Gujarat has neglected Muslim education. Hanif Lakdawala, a psychiatrist, who does social work among Ahmedabad’s slum dwellers, says there is a ghettoisation of schools. Muslims therefore prefer to set up their own. The number of Muslim education trusts, he says, has increased from 30 before the 2002 riots to 800 now. This is bad for children as they do not mix, get to know each other and shed their prejudices. Muslims schools also do not want government recognition, so they can tailor their curriculum for religious instruction.

Fr Mascarenhas is wrong in saying that Gujarat has neglected higher education. This was the case. It is no longer so. According to the latest report prepared by the Confederation of Indian Industry for the Planning Commission, Gujarat ranked eighth in number of colleges (1815). It has a gross enrolment rate of 21, compared to the national average of 19. Tamil Nadu ranks first with a GER of 33. Earlier this year, Modi held a National Education Summit in Gandhinagar. He wants to make the Vadodara-Gandhinagar belt a higher education hub.

Father Mascarenhas' statement that ‘Gujarat has had a terrible cultural experience’ is perhaps true. Lakdawala says Muslims have accepted they are second class citizens. Gujarati society itself is communally divided, as evident from Hindu neighbours holding ‘Ram Darbars’ every evening outside Bohra Muslim businessman Ali Asghar Zaveri’s bungalow in Bhavnagar’s posh Hindu-dominated Krishan Nagar, to force him to leave.

 

Fr FM: The Food Security bill driven by Sonia Gandhi is a game changer, as billed by the Congress. It has been supported by some of our best social scientists like Amartya Sen and Jean Dreze.

My response: Jean Dreze will support the FSB because it is his brainchild. I do not think it is a game changer. In fact, it can harm Indian agriculture. That is because huge amounts of rice and wheat will have to be procured for rationing. Farmers in Punjab and Haryana will be encouraged to grow more wheat and rice for this purpose. They will do so, because there is assured purchase by the government at high minimum support prices. These two states must grow less of rice, because they cannot afford to draw down their groundwater, which has been depleted to an alarming extent. They must move to high-value fruits and vegetables, and animal products, where Indian consumption habits are shifting. Economists have said that it is better to provide direct income support (put money in the bank accounts of the poor so that they can buy whatever they want) instead of supplying grain at enormous cost and wastage. To meet rationing requirement and cut down its gain procurement bill, the government does not allow exports, which depresses farm incomes. So farmers indirectly subsidize the poor, when we should be rewarding them.


(Vivian Fernandes is a Delhi-based journalist with 30 years of practice, most of them with television and in CNBC-TV18 business news channel).

 

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  • Thimmappa, Mangalore

    Sat, May 03 2014

    I salute Frazer Mascarenhas who raised the issue. Gujarat fake development model is especially created by biased journalist Arnob Goswami of Time Now. BJP has been successful in leveling baseless allegations, stealing secret info from govt offices, keeping BJP men in every govt institutions to pass on the confidential information, creating fabricated documents, they are even successful in keeping their men as, EC commissioners, buying journalists..... BJP's are such a criminals who rape their own relations and still get rid of their crime by imposing threats...buying judiciary, buying police & buying biased media. I must charge Arnob Goswami of his behavior to less than a prostitute...who should join the BJP instead of being a journalist.I appeal to all to curse such a cunning guys.....who supports the crime & dividing people through hidden agenda"religious disharmony".

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  • Welt, Hyderabad

    Tue, Apr 29 2014

    I agree with Vivian that when one considers the quality of education in government and municipal schools across the country, any right thinking person.In Hyderabad, class 10th students of these schools do not know the meaning of "and" or other words. So the governments everywhere have encouraged a system which only pushes the "pass percentage". As regards Vivian's dissing of the Food Security Bill and his support for cash transfer, I disagree. Cash transfers will be ineffective in this era of high food inflation. Free market 'theologians' will push for cash transfers because it means families have surplus cash to buy FMCG products that MNCs hope to sell, drunken louts can ignore their family's needs to buy liquor, who knows companies can even sell insurance products and banking products, and the free market proponents can claim that it is market demand that is driving needs. Those who diss FSB will do well to note a proven fact that Indian put cos have got more loans than their contribution to the GDP. So money spent on welfare schemes are not a 'waste', but a means to build the future for the poor families and a means to ensure their survival. Please don't take me to be a Congress supporter, but in a country like ours with so much disparity and indifferent governments at the centre and the states, it is time people like Vivian Fernandes, who are otherwise so clear-headed, suddenly see only demerits in subsidies and benefits, especially those aimed at the poorer sections. The "markets" don't care for people and this is amply clear. The government cannot abandon its role because it is the people who elect them, not the so-called 'free markets'. Even in the US, the government intervenes to a degree. Cash transfers are being pushed by a section of interested parties because it helps their business. Food grains given by the government to an indigent populace, is clearly of no use to them and so this "hawaa baazi" about cash transfers.

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  • Neville, Goa / New Zealand

    Sun, Apr 27 2014

    I was in the same school and year group as Fr.Frazer and incidentally share his family name. I can vouch for his absolute diligence as a co student and the impeccable credentials of his family. Fr Frazer is simply espousing what has been ingrained in him from the start. Stand up for social justice and do good to all you can.I really cannot see any point in muddying the waters and convoluting the case even further.His comments are as per his vocation and mission to state the obvious. His students are free to vote as they wish.

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  • ramakrishna, bangalore

    Sat, Apr 26 2014

    It appears,the pseudo-sickulars would like to surrender this country which has been plundered by the daughter of italy,to their clans.almost all the views of this sickulars are identical and not the least patriotic.Thepriest should not have used academic institutional facilities for political propagation.

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  • Wilfred Rego, Siddakatte / Oman

    Fri, Apr 25 2014

    I strongly support Doctor Richard Rego's statements are perfect and true about Rev Father Frazer Mascaraneous's bold statements. If Gujarat is developed why there are many people are leaving Gujarat to going to Gulf countries and Mumbai city.There are so many poor people and pourty is increased in Gujarat and business man like Adani group's turnover increased 70 times over the decade after Modi's blessings.There was law and order situation worsened in Gujarat ans still they propagate the Gujarat model and blackmail the electorates to come to power.He will break our country.

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  • Joy GP, Trivandrum

    Fri, Apr 25 2014

    If blatant industrialization is the much hyped Gujarat Model then Gujarat is ahead.But what you see in Mumbai Ahmedabad route and in Jamnagar doesn't reflect true Gujarat. The villages of Gujarat are just like any other village in North India.Gujarat is still among few states where manual scavenging still continues.Dalits still face tough situations in interior Gujarat.So Gujarat model is not a panacea to all ills, moreover, so called Gujarat model may not work elsewhere say in UP or Bihar.Gujaratis are basically hardworking and got sharp business acumen,that's why they are successful world over.

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  • Dr Richard Rego, Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Vivian, like our typical private channels, makes a lot of noise hardly any substance.
    These enlightened journalists kept quiet when thousands of hindu-vadis' schools kept propping modi and his ideology openly. NDTV even had a debate. Where were all these big noises when Ravi Shankar openly supported bjp & modi? Or fake yoga guru (Rs 25,000 crore money, but having paid no tax) has been endorsing Hindutva since Anna's fast, or ever since supporting Modi for PM? Where were these when Mata Amritamayi & her schools brazenly break their "professionalism" taking political sides? Why only when a minority criticizes modi? The minority principal doesn't even name the party, and yet, he is attacked - just to be acceptable to the majority! Is this a part of the identity crisis that haunts Naquvi and Siddiqui and Akbar and others?
    I support Fr Frazer for his bold statements let us appreciate at least one man has the guts to stand up to his convictions (I am aware, there are few more like Fr Cedric and Teesta and others!). The media, which raised a hue and cry over Fr Frazer's email had completely surrendered itself to the money power of Ambani-Adani's in favour of their arrogant ego-worshipper PM-candidate. None of them care of the poor.
    This piece by vivian is a sad commentary of media selling itself shamelessly and over and over again.

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  • concerned citizen, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Who also works for the Ambani's

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  • concerned citizen, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    In 1992 Kiran Bedi’s got her daughter admission for MBBS course in Delhi’s Hardinge College under a quota for student’s from North-East thus depriving the actual NE student of a seat. So much for her ethics and stand on public morality.

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  • concerned citizen, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    In 2011, the additional chief metropolitan magistrate Amit Bansal has directed the crime branch of Delhi police to register a case against Kiran Bedi within 24 hours, for allegedly misappropriating funds meant for her NGOs. Kiran Bedi was alleged to have charged her hosts full fare for air tickets despite her paying discounted fare. She was also alleged to have charged her hosts business class fare while flying economy class and presenting false invoices. Bedi was also accused by an NGO of claiming business class fare from Delhi to Mumbai, while her travel itinerary communicated to them showed she was flying from nearby Pune. In 1992 Kiran Bedi’s daughter was given admission for MBBS course in Delhi’s Hardinge College under a quota for student’s from North-East thus depriving the actual NE student of a seat.

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  • Joseph F. Gonslaves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Dear Rahul, Udupi,

    I am re-tweeting here on behalf of you to you to Kiren bedi: She is the soft corner of BJP. She had advised Kejriwal to take support of bjp to rule Delhi.

    Taking her point of view OF HER TWITTER she is like:

    ULTA CHOUR KOTHWAL KO DAANTE.

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  • P. Naik, Kundapur, Muscat

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Dr. Frazer Mascarenhas addresses only Gujarat model, education and settlement of tribal claims. Are there no other issues in the country? He is biased and upholds the UPA achievements like RTI and Food Security...How effective are these?

    If he wants to educate his students, he should highlight on the government's defective policies, bad governance, judicial system, corruption, modernization of our education system, ways and means of upholding secular values instead of using communal factors for vote banks, population control, concrete steps to narrowing down the gap between rich and poor so that people are more self-sufficient than depending for ever on government freebies. These are all the major and important issues which Fr. Frazer should have covered in an impartial way and prepare his students to focus on these issues as they are the aspiring leaders of tomorrow. This way he could have done some justice to his statements.

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  • opinionated, mumbai

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    I am a student of St. Xavier's College Autonomous,Mumbai. I have been fortunate enough to have several interactions with Fr. Frazer SJ and can proudly say that he has always encouraged debate and critical analysis.

    For those who fear that he may have influenced students, i can safely speak on behalf of a majority of the student body that we are mature, thinking individuals who can't be influenced by a mere email that is thought of as 'suggestive'.What the email did however do is bring to notice a critical point about the Gujarat model and economic vs human index development.

    He was only raising important points and providing perspective

    There might have been scope for a more holistic coverage, however, he hasn't sided with anyone and has simply urged students to think by bringing to our notice points that may go unnoticed.

    To sum it up, Xavier's has always been apolitical and so has its principal. Xavier's stands for a spirit of nurturing the intelligence and talent and Fr. Frazer makes the institution what it is today.

    It is but natural that all arguments will be reviewed politically at this point in time, but I strongly believe that the email is being misinterpreted. Fr. Did not have any such intentions.

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  • Rahul, Udupi

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Retweeted Kiran Bedi (@thekiranbedi):

    Dr Frazer,Principal St Xavier is member of a Steering Committee of Planning Commission Member of Committee for Defence of Teesta Setalvad

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  • soter, goa

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    We need more academicians and experts like Fr. Frazer to wake up, come out and question the models of governance being marketed to the gullible masses as the wonder drug for the problems in this country. Does voicing opinion against Gujarat Model or development amount to anti-Modi campaign? Has this country surrendered its thinking faculties to one man? If the Gujarat Model is marketed in this election as the model for ALL INDIA, should experts in the field not comment? To talk against the Gandhi dynasty is fine but to criticise Gujarat model is Gujarat model becomes violation of election code? Has this nation already moved into fascist mode of thinking? Will one party decide what is appropriate and inappropriate thinking and behaviour for this country? Since when has subjective reading between the lines become sufficient criteria to accuse an individual of violation of code of conduct?

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  • Bernie Tellis, Mumbai

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Fr. Frazer says he did not mention any name or political party in his unwarranted e-mail. He didn`t need to it was apparent to anyone with half a brain.Unless he thinks his students are too seriously challenged intellectually to read between the lines.There was everything wrong with that loaded e-mail : the timing , the bias,the fact it was unethical,unprincipled, & I dare to say , unchristian.Perhaps the good cleric is unaware that the highest no. of atrocities against minorities have been perpetrated in Congress-ruled states(Wikipedia )perhaps he`s ignorant of the fact that the (anti) freedom of religion bill was first enacted in 1978 in Arunachal Pradesh then ruled by the secular Congress party,& is still in force that the only anti-Democrat ( Hitler )

    India has known was the leader of the Congress party who d the infamous Emergency in 1975. And what of the 3000 Sikhs butchered by Congress party sponsored goons in 1984 ?I could go on & on. Suffice to say that corruption,communalism,crony capitalism in every political party is a matter of degree,not absence.Attempts have been made to influence the choice of first-time voters & pointing them in the desired direction by dishing out ive data and subtle attempts are made from the pulpit to influence Christians to vote for a so-called secular party which has the interests of the poor & under-privileged at heart.Nothing could be farther from the truth.After 60 yrs of one family party`s rule if we stll need sops,hand-outs,freebies,reservations et al, what does it say about their style of governance ? Besides,these are entitlements in the Constitution not graces/blessings from above bestowed on the poor by their netas to keep them forever beholden to them & ever-ready vote-banks. Fr. Frazer not only exceeded his brief,he also violated the model code of conduct.No two ways about it.

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  • Sanakappanna M, Sankalakariya / Bahrain

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    I think Fr.Fraser did a wonderful thing, normally least expected of those in such offices. Normal person hesitates to express his views for the fear of backlash. This I say with conviction, even though this time we should vote for Modi to bring about a dynamic change in running the government by which hopefully people will see the difference,and Congress may learn its lessons.

    However, it is not just about Modi is becoming the PM, as Vivian says, it's about economic development with Hindu cultural nationalism. In this sense, it is like the Chinese model which welds Han nationalism and economic development.I hope Vivian understands what he states, China is not a democratic country, yes it has developed economically, by the ruthless suppression of freedom. I dont think Fr.Fraser has a problem with Hindu culture and it's flourishing, but not at the expense of a Free and Secular fabric of Indian society.

    Besides this, look at every BJP ruled state, saffronisation even in the educational system is a major worry. Ever since, Modi has been nominated as PM candidate by RSS, it has set up more than 2000 shakhas of RSS across India, and it is going on.

    Fear in a Christian or a Muslim is but natural.

    As for Fr.Fraser's email for the students and its propriety, I think He did the right thing to educate his students. God Bless him.
    Mr.Vivian is a journalist and a journalist is always more interested in colouring a news item, known to be yellow journalism. let us wish him well and pray that he has the courage to speak truth in the light of total human liberation.

    If it makes sense to Vivian, a short passage.." He has sent me to bring good news to the poor, tell prisoners that they are prisoners no more, tell blind people that they can see and set the downtrodden free..and go tell everyone that Ram rajya is here,..!

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  • SANTOSH B V , Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Having read the views of Fr. Frazer Mascarenhas and the strategically conducted by the Pro BJP Anchor Mr. Arnab Goswami on Times Now, I see nothing wrong in Fr. Mascarenhas is expressing his views to his students, no where has he forced any one to vote for any particular party, he has sent as email / psoted his views and I am sure the students of the elite and prestigious St. Xaviers can discern for themselves as to what is right or wrong. To get admission into St. Xaviers means having an IQ above ordinary. Fr, Mascarenhas as a mentor of his flock did what any Professor or lecturer would do in a political science or economics lecturer would do - so what is wrong ? why this ranting by BJP ? after all only a few hundred students in Xaviers would be eligible to cast their ballot. What about the subtle hints or force used by other communities either in places of worship, colleges or Yoga / spiritual centers ?? Is it a crime to express once views, even if prejudiced, be it so, after all it is nothing but prejudice that inspires us to cast of vote for any particular party or candidate. Dr. Fr. Mascarenhas was a student of St. Xaviers and has been teaching there since 1988, so he knows what he is doing and saying. I being a Jesuit product am fully aware that the Jesuit Priests never impose their views on any one, but correctly guide their students to see life in a very broad perspective and not on communal or religious basis, their motto is the upliftment of the poor and downtrodden, to achieve this you need a sound Government, be it BJP, Congress, AAp or any other, on a personal level I feel the BJP will take India forward jsut as much as the Congress looted the country and took it backwards. Jai Hind

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  • Aladdin Pais, Mangalore / Mumbai

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Hi Anthony Dsouza - Mangalore,

    May I request you to stop your lose comments on Vivian, (in your post of yesterday and again today) a good friend of mine since the past many years having schooled together.

    It is a nice interaction between Fr. Mascarenhas - a Jesuit priest
    and Vivian - a Jesuit product having passed out from the Jesuit institute - St. Aloysius in Mangalore.

    As your comments are just unwarranted for, sure you would oblige.

    This as you would read Vivian clearly in his reply stating - "
    though I am by no means an apologist for Modi, but see myself as an journalist prejudiced towards Constitutional values and free markets".... so you see he is taking a generic view and not that of favouring Modi.

    Thank you and God Bless.

    Kind Regards

    Aladdin Pais

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  • Anthony Lobo, Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    I am sorry for your feelings, but I can smell there is selfish writing in that article as he is saying about his book written on Modi. For your info all humans protect/support their friends and families. There are lot of people educated irrespective of religion from Jesuits schools/colleges. I do not want to say a lot about mangaloreans Christians. Specially for Mangaloreans the saying goes like this - I am for myself and God for all. It is very rare the Mangalorean Christians help/guide another Mangalorean Christian during the need.

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  • U V KINI, MANGALORE - Goa - HYD

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Fr Mascarenhas is a Christian Priest. He is also the Principal of a college. He has made (mis)use of his official position and tried to influence impressionable minds into NOT voting for Modi hiding under the veil of "common practice for principals to advice students to go out and vote" (his explanation).
    If he had written on his independent blog (if he has one) there might not have been so much criticism.

    Now there are many colleges in India run by religious heads of Hindu sects. Now imagine if one Hindu priest belonging to any of those hindu sects, wrote a similar BUT PRO MODI letter to thier students, what would the reaction from the pseudo-secularists be!

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  • Cure de Ars , India

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Fundamentalist from all religions, particularly from Catholicism will condemn Fr. Mascarenhas, because they have not changed as per time. Catholic priest are well trained and Fr. Mascarenhas is an authority in the field of development. In the history of the world there are examples of monks and priests who contributed greatly in every field. If he had not spoken to his students his mind openly he would have to answer his own conscience, therefore it is conscience clause, and God is the judge. Let BJP who is guilty of many atrocities on minorities need not read too much of the motive of the principal. I am sure the Pope Francis, who is ultimate organizational authority, himself a Jesuit will surly be pleased and depend Fr. Mascarenhas if he faces any problems.

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  • jeetendra hegde, mumbai

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    As i commented Earlier, if this is the mentality of a teacher ,think about the students .....,Let students to use their own brain for countries sake,why this guy stamp his thoughts to others?.God save this country.

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  • Div, New delhi

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    I have heard many speeches in last 1 months (election fever all around). As father mentioned modi as a communal..... I just want to know one thing did he listen any speeches of any parties, every party (except BJP)is talking abt muslim in name of minority.... So its clear that who is communal .... I found congress and other parties who have only muslim in there mind. And respected father u also belong to a minority class..... Did u heard any plan or policy for christian community from congress. No bcoz ur are only 2%..... Cant do anything in election. So they are targeting muslim vote ( cheap politics )
    Its very shameful for us to have party like congress. Who knows only one thing divide and rule and all above loot.

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  • Anthony Lobo, Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Vivian Fernandes also differs his view with his family too, so there is nothing new he should agree with others. May be in Modi's Government he will get a job in RBI.

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  • Alwyn, CANADA

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Vivian fERNANDES is looking for free publicity, but it will cost the curse later on. Never make a priest suffer due to your own benefit. Priest never said to vote anyone but expressed his opinion and views how people suffer in India front of our own eyes just because of politicians behaviour. Who care whether congress or BJP comes to power common man has to work for his living and the preiest wont get money from neither party. As a educationist he has done a great job in informing his students,. Great job Father.

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  • Ajay, Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    The pro market model of Reagan has been discredited in the US, where we have a oligarchy ruling with the middle class hollowed out. These are the long term consequences of those kinds of policies. You have a booming stock market, along with booming poverty, with the gap between the rich and poor much more today as a result of such big business, deregulated policies.

    Modi's economic policies will have similar devastating long term effects over India's poor.

    There is a reason why Vajpayee did not win reelection, though India did well on economic indices and there was a feel good moment in India among the middle class after his reign. The reason is that the Poor felt let down by those policies.

    The primary tool of development appears in Gujarath,to be a transfer of land from the poor to the wealthy. This can work in sparsely populated countries, but in densely populated one like India, this will brood resentment.

    Vivian Fernandes, while trying to answer objectively, has applied just superficial rigour to his reasoning.

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  • j.s, managlore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Sometime i really think that some of these peopel who so called minorities (Not all but some) are so selfish they never think of nations good they are so selfish they always think of their good

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  • concerned citizen, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    He works as Editor-Special Features, CNBC-TV18. The Mukesh Ambani's Reliance Industries Limited held Indian Media Trust has invested to have a controlling stake. So is it a opinion on behalf of his Master or is he bending backwards to please his Master?

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  • Pat, USA

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    This is going to backfire to not only congress but to all anti-modi forces.

    Modi has fantastic record..if not, businesses will not prefer Gujarata over other states.

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  • Malice, Patna

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Irrespective of the merits of the arguments on both sides, one thing that is to be appreciated is that the response is a mature one, unlike the responses of politicians. Disagreements are to be articulated clearly and controversial issues are to be debated passionately without resorting to name calling or resorting to vandalism. That is the sign of a mature democracy.

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  • D. Crasta, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Fr. Frazer has done a wonderful job of enlightening the new young voters about the hype and wrong claims of Modi's development work in Gujarat. The educated people will certainly agree with Fr. Frazer and his views.

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  • hilary, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    I am regular in watching CNBC television. Mr. Vivian cannot express in words in the TV what he intends to say .It looks as though he had mugged up the content, expresses without full stops. What sort of book it can be. In put might have been Might have been done by several other people.

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  • Aravind, blr

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    The principal should keep his personal prejudiced opinion to himself and let the people of this nation decide who they want to elect. At best he can urge the students to vote for the better future of this nation and let the voters decide who is good for the future.

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  • arsmith, Kanyakumari

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    If BJP thinks what Fr Frazer had written is wrong, they have every right to come out with a counter instead of that if they want to shout or threaten people down it only proves that its another fascist party which never learned and wants to impose there will on others. We already had 1500 years of oppression based on caste and any free thinking person will never allow it to happen again

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  • ad, mangloor

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Most Christians and in particular the Clergy are pro congress for reasons well known- Past history of BJP where Christians were harassed.
    If Modi comes to power they fear the same old harassment may continue. It's not development that drives Christians ,its fear of Communal BJP. If Modi can change that, it's a welcome sign. But how to prove that? A Modi led government and a test of a man who claims he is not a communal.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Yes. I am also thinking the same. He should prove everybody once he becomes PM.

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  • Vincent Praveen Castelino, Pernal / Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014


    Hold on .... don't jump in to conclusions Sir.

    ......Once he becomes a P.M is a long way dear!!!.


    Indian democracy is at "Crossroads Today".

    It's going to be a Hung Parliament.

    That's for sure...Anybody can bet on that and all would be the bet winners!!!

    It's a "Open Secret"

    and Not a Single Political Party in India today in 2014 General Elections can claim "Absolute Majority" for various reasons/parties for example "Selfish Regional Parties" who are the real "King Makers" !!!! in forming the Government @ the Centre. (Take best example of the great greedy/opportunist "Mr. Ram Vilas Paswan's... LJP")

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  • Raj, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Yes he will prove that he is not communal. Almost nobody knows commenting here that he has almost demoralised demolished vhp rss in Gujarat. People who demonise modi doesn't know the facts. And modi baiters is not only certain sections but even the majorities who are jealous about a minuscule obc guy ruling them.9

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  • My View , managlore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Even if Modi proves anything, but still there are Christians who will always follow Congs, there is huge chance Muslim community can change there mind but not Christians.

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  • SK Rao, Bangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    These church priests, mullahs and babas are just making hay... They have a biased view about politics based on their religion and going around fooling the country with these messages. Misusing their authority - shameless fellows

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  • aLWYN, canada

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Your knowledge in catholic priest is the greatest poverty you will find. Babas are different then these 15 years educated royal priest my friend. Learn about the history of catholic priest and the dedication to society will rarely find in any other community. Gujrat model is only grown for certain people but inclusively for not all its citizens. study the modi model and will see what he has done.

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  • essell, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Do we like if our capital city changed to Gujrat from delhi? Let us expect the overall growth for India.

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  • Vincent Praveen Castelino, Pernal / Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014


    About opposing "Evil" is the crime or what today in India???

    He has not mentioned anywhere any political parties names whom to vote for in his emails sent to the students!!!.

    It needs immense courage to stand and oppose and he has done that!!!

    Yes he could have emphasized more to the students to "Come out and Vote Sensibly " without fail in his emails sent to the students rather than highlighting the issue.

    Anyways... Fr.Frazer Mascarenhas is a scholar and he knows his duty as a Priest& Principal and a law abiding citizen of this country. he doesn't need a certificate from anybody for his deeds and he knows the best.


    BJP's "Lawyers" got some "bait" for the debate today.

    Interesting watch NDTV tonight with Raj deep Sardesai.

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  • Santosh Kumar, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Fr Masc has also the right to express himself and as a Principal he has full authority to put his views on the Institutes website. He has mentioned to all students to vote judiciously ! Finally thruth will only prevail and lofty development claims are only for crony capitalism which only Ambanis ,Adanis , have benefited and made their built their empires , while the poor and the marginalised have not benefitted from such development !

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  • martin, mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    i support r father.....at least he is not into being coward..he did what he is supposed to do...as a head 0f r college.....he did not make any individual comment to any one....its only the coward and the frustrated ppl.....who r jealous of r principal and the college
    Otherwise an educated person will never make it a big issue....instead of understanding the good.......i support and ask others to think what his views actually means.....

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    I support the Reverend's views and I am glad Fr.Frazer Mascarenhas has spoken out.

    Mind you the Reverend is not getting involved in politics here. This is about opposing evil. As a good priest it is his duty to oppose evil. He has done just that.

    All this propaganda and praise about Gujarat is being done only with one purpose of promoting ONE EVIL MAN and nothing else.

    Father Mascarenhas we are with you !

    Down with Modi !!!

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  • Abhishek Padival Jain, Sullia/Bangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Definition of Gujarat Model:-
    Killing of Agriculture & Small Scale Industries and Fostering only Big Industries.

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  • Tomas Richard, Udupi

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Fr Frazer has exceeded all limits he should be apolitical, First let him focus on his college administration,This is not first time he created confusion.he is publicity monger

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Agree Mr.Thomas..already religious leaders maligned people mind by taking sides politically just for their personal benifits..Now,college principal Fr.Frazer going set a bad example..

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  • Anita Rego, Hyderabad

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Vivian, I fully agree your views on the harms on democracy on large industry and politicians joining hands. However, I beg to differ on the higher education at Gujarat. If one looks at the UGC report on higher education, the private sector higher education has grown and it is understandable that CII would rate it well.

    The second point on Food Security Act - The Act focuses on expansion to the distribution of millets, a dying agricultural grain that could be revived under the FSA. Hence the impact on agriculture is favorable to the small farmer who is not able to cultivate in dry land and with small holdings. I hope you would agree that it would also reduce the fertilizer driven agriculture in the country.

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  • Gregory Peres, Kankanady, Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    Ms,Anita Rego, Here is the Annual Report of Higher Education in States & UT's in India 2013 brought out by the Ministry of HRD, Govt. of India.

    Colleges per lakh population - Top 5 States :

    Paducherry : 54
    Andhra Pradesh : 48
    Karnataka : 44
    Himachal Pradesh : 38
    Maharashtra : 35

    I have got these facts for you / readers from the Internet.

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  • Sumanth Patel, Udaipur, Raj

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    So, where is Gujarat ?? All the hype is sponsored by the Gujarat State Govt through their private media.

    If one travels through the inner parts of Gujarat, you would be shocked. It is as bad as any other village in any other state. Seeing is believing !

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  • Welt, Hyderabad

    Tue, Apr 29 2014

    Number of colleges and private schools is no indicator of quality. If you have seen recent reports, many colleges in AP and around Hyderabad are closing down because students and parents have found them to be worthless. AP, Maharashtra and Karnataka churn out Lakhs of engineering graduates and MBAs every year. Has anyone considered their quality?

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  • Ramesh S, mangalores

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    ..all these years during election we have seen politicians behind priest,sadhu,moulvi,father,Bukhari..now on we can see them behind principals of college thanks to fr.Frazer..every one has right to express their personal views..when BJP welcomes LATA MANGESHKAR,they have to welcome AMARTSYASEN also..but Fr Frazer seems to be imposing his views on his students..He sounds like a Congress supporter who didnt mentioned corruption issue,Govt mismanagment,scams,unethical use of Govt agencies..he louds UPA food bill which UN & WORLD BANK says INDIA can't afford it even for 3 years!!.legally he may defend himeself,prove right but as a Principal of college he was starting bad custom..if people supports this, it will have massive impact on education institution & its operations..

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  • Anthony Lobo, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Vivian Fernandes agenda is to sell his book. He may have 30 years of experience in Journalism but he lacks something i.e. common sense.

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  • G.P, Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    I think Antony Lobo lacks simple judgement and common sense.
    Vivian Fernandes and myself were classmates at St. Aloysius, Mangalore. He is a very upright and courages person. I wish him the very best always.

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  • H.L., Bangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    There are many books written on MOdi,
    sponsored by BJP. Fr.FM has every right to express his views as Vivian Fernandes had expressed his views in his book. If Baba Ramdev,Sri Sri Ravishanker Guruji and other swamijis and spiritual leaders can express thier views, why cant Fr,Frazer?Let Modi try his Gujrat Model in UP,Bihar,Assam and other states first.Karnataka has suffered a lot during BJP rule.Church attacks,Pub attack,Home stay attack, attacks on minority communities,immoral(not moral)policing etc.What is Vivian Fernandes' opinion about these attacks?

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  • India First, India

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Just imagine what would have happened if a Hindu teacher written a letter to students ????

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  • VIJAY LEWIS, Mumbai/Shirva

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Why Mr. Modi is not coming for an open debate..." Gujarat Model". let have debate in St. Xavier's Auditorium ....दूध का दूध पानी का पानी

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  • sid, mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Modi gi has gone to so many debates . you should call Pappu now for open debate . Would be pretty funny

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    How many times has he run away throwing the MIKE...

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Thu, Apr 24 2014

    modi is a coward ...he is more of a pussy cat and NOT A MAN with a 56 inch chest...

    He gives interviews to channels only when questions are preset.

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  • SAGAR, SURAT

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Dear Sir,
    I fully agree with you,but pls do not write in upper case.Its considered as an insult in internet language.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Can someone explain why "Gujarat is still an underdeveloped state - RBI 2014" ...

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  • Bhaskar Acharya, Shirva

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Mr. Jossey Saldanha, Gujarat is back ward State because it was ruled by Congress for more number of year than BJP(Modi ruling this state only for 10 -12 years now)

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  • Roshan, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    You forgot keshubhai patel of BJP who modi kicked out, my dear. Learn your facts well before you preach.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    In the ABP TV news channel 'Ghoshnapatra' programme, a politician is invited each night to speak and answer questions from the audience, but in last night's programme Modi was the guest, but there was no audience but just three journalists asking him, in all likelihood 'fixed' questions.

    If he is not guilty why does he not have the guts to face an audience which is not 'fixed' ?

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Then why is this duffer saying Gujarat Model should be implemented all over India...

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  • nazeer husain, katapady

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    no doubt.WHEN ALL SENIOR LEADERS LIKE ADVANI, SUSHMA SWARAJ,ARUN JAITELY SIDELINED,ITS CLEAR THAT MODI CAN BE EASYGOER WITH HIDDEN AGENDAS OF FASCIST GROUPS.the word DEVELOPMENT newly coined JUST to hide COMMUNALISM

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  • Dr Kusuma Kumari G, Nellore/Kodyadka

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Gujarath model makes only rich richer and poor poorer. Hes a capitalistic man and has no repsect for poor people and also hes communal. Why he dint stop Kadam when he made derogatory statements about muslims in India? Muslims are indians too. We must not hate a community just because they are born in a differant community.Jai Hind

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  • NAP, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    I think vivian is a blind supporter of NaMo...

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  • raj, mangalroe

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    a good teacher will advice his students to vote for non curupt, secular, hard working leader..
    even if that teacher want to give examples...i dnt think a good teacher should have missed those loot and scams happend under soniyas rule in last 10 year ..along iwth gjurat land he should have brought haryana son in law loot...but he comepletel avoided it..
    so naturally he gives impressin that he is pushing hard to save soniya gandhi just based on relegious identity ...

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  • Uncle D, Dubai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Mr Shetty, any comment passed against NAMO is being taken personally by you. Let me tell you Fr Masch is just informing us of some facts which the author of the book forgot to mention in his so called Book. Secondly, Fr Masc is not asking us to vote for any party but he is just letting us know that dont let the country go into the wrong hands, bluntly speaking to the dogs.

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  • JP, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    It seems, many a commentators here have not read Fr. Mascarenhas' message. He has neither critisised Modi/BJP nor endorsed Congress. His views are only analytical and constructive. Daiji could have reproduced his message. It is unbecoming for a senior reporter like Mr. Fernandes to pick extracts therefrom ively and comment in abstracts.

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  • Ashok John Veiges, Bajpe , Bahrain

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Well down VIVIAN . I like your interview. Modi not suitable to be PM

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  • Rajeev Shetty, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Mr Shetty, any comment passed against NAMO is being taken personally by you. Let me tell you Fr Masch is just informing us of some facts which the author of the book forgot to mention in his so called Book. Secondly, Fr Masc is not asking us to vote for any party, but he is just letting us know that, don't let the country go into the wrong hands, bluntly speaking to the dogs.

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  • Ajith , Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Dear author-It is some foolish people among us who think they are impartial have given rise to the fascist forces in this country. Even if it is partisan we should think of our survival and the survival of the nation first. In this regard the advice from the Principal of Xavier college is fully justified. This BJP can stoop to any level to garner votes. They are just a mask of the real fascist force who is behind them.

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  • VIJAY LEWIS, Mumbai/Shirva

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai.
    Fr.Frazer Mascarenhas, never said don't vote for BJP. he said "choose wisely" as academician
    he can tell to his students.

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  • Prof. Madan Meena , Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014



    As an academician myself, I do not see anything wrong here. Honourable Principal has just stated the facts. In fact, he has done a very noble work of guiding the students in the right direction...that's exactly what we academicians are supposed to do. I have asked the principal of my college to circulate similar notice in my college.

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  • Roshan, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Guj was growing at 16percent prior to Modi taking which is now close to 10 forget rest. Businessmen like Modi because he gives soap to them. Like Tata gets 10k crore at 0.25percent interest or Adani land at dirt cheap. What is wrong with that? The future of India lies with SME's not big industrial hubs. SME's provide jobs to lakhs where as big business a few hundred. That is why guj received over 1.5lakh applications for a single job in revenue dept. These guys wont touch the critical issues that benefit millions, they touch only some self serving issues.

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Thank you very much Mr. Vivian Fernandes for your fitting reply to person like Fr Frazer Mascarenhas with your wonderful writing skill inhabited by careful words. There are two things we can learn from this incident that, can we still respects this person since he is a Principal? He is supposed to be in Driver Seat while teaching his Students regarding secularism in India, instead he tried to instigate against great person like NaMo. Secondly he forgot to understand that as per the latest Pre-Poll survey, more than 55% people would like to see NaMo as PM, so he is upsetting on an average more than 55% Students in his College too which is not a healthy sign since he may ruin his dignity as Principal. When a Principal like Mascarenhas is teaching in a College means we can understand the mindset of those Students who admire him too. It’s good that you have written email about NaMo & Gujarat….. Just write a similar email regarding MNS & Raj Thackeray and you will see the outcome……

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  • Fr Joachim D'Souza, Capuchin, Mogarnad/ Bangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    First and foremost, I do appreciate the views of Fr.F. Mascarenhas. He has the every right to hold his personal views. He is the man who thinks globally and works locally. May his efforts brings rich harvest. he is convinced about what is education and development is.

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  • Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    I really wonder what would be state of mind of our Pseudo's on May 16, 2014. Better take proper medication to control BP on that date.

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  • George, uk

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    First of all deport ambanis & adanis from india all problems of india will be solved do not allow them to do single pie of business in india.

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  • VINCENT DSILVA, DUBAI

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    MR.VIVIAN, I HAVE SEEN YOUR INTERVIEWS ON THE PANEL AS CHANNELS ECONOMIC EDITOR. I DO NOT THINK YOUR VIEWS ARE APPRECIATED AT ALL IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEY DO NOT CONTAIN IN DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF SUBJECT. AT TIMES EVEN YOUR EDITOR MR DESAI BY PASSES YOU. HENCE DO NOT POKE YOUR NOSE EVERY WHERE. FR MASCARENHAS IS A WELL KNOWN ENTITY AND IS AN AUTHORITY ON WHAT HE SAYS. THE TRUTH CAN NOT NEGATE THE RIGHT THING. MR MODI IF COMES TO POWER WILL BE A DISASTER TO INDIA. THE LETTERS ARE WRITTEN ON THE WALL AND TO TURN THEM AROUND IS EVERYBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Dear VINCENT DSILVA, you said FR MASCARENHAS is a well known entity!!! If a well known entity writes unwanted and unnecessary email like this means we can understand what kind of mind set he is having….. Let him join the Politics and say whatever he wants…. But being a Principal of College he has no moral right to continue in his post……. If you still endorse his email, then we don’t see any mistake in Togadia’s, Owais’s, Azam's or Kalladka’s speech at all!!!! You may give any justification now, but damage has been done already

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  • SAGAR, SURAT

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Dear Sir,
    I fully agree with you,but pls do not write in upper case.Its considered as an insult in internet language.

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  • CA Satish Shetty, Kinnigoli Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    No harm in expressing his personal opinion.But being the principal of a college, he should not have sent SMS to the students .

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  • paap, Udupi

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Yeah! I agree.. He should have campaigned on road like others do.. Uncool to use the college...

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  • paap, Udupi

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    If during my college days, if my principal had sent me an email to do something, i would have done exactly the opposite! This may be a blessing in disguise for the BJP.

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  • j.anata, Mangaluru / Bengaluru

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    This email by this pastor to his students would hold no ground. With Shiv Sena- BJP alliance about to wrest 5 out of 6 seats in Mumbai & 30 in Maha, I'm amused that the UPA govt is lowering itself to such levels that it urges a pastor principal to address communal emails to students. Whatever said & done, this is breaching the moral code of conduct & EC needs to examine this email for subtle undertones of flaring communal passions. I wish the pastor would go to Gujarat which is hardly 4 hours away from his place to see & experience real development

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  • VIJAY LEWIS, Mumbai/Shirva

    Wed, Apr 23 2014


    It is ok for BJP when Yoga Guru Ramdev, Spiritual leader Sri Sri Ravishankar, industrialists like Sunil Alagh and others support BJP overtly or covertly. If a Principal advises his students in their internal forum, it is being objected. Talk about double standards. Shame on BJP


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  • anikl, mlore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Modi's Gujarat(Gujiri) Model is a disaster

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  • Sandy, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    There is a brand of people who call themselves secular. They objective is to instill fear among the minorities, warning of doomsday if BJP comes to power. BJP born out of the Sangh Pariwar is portrayed by them as working only for the Hindu cause. This is not right. Yes BJP has some Hindu interests in it's agenda. but what is the problem in it? The Congress and allied parties do lip-service before the polls to appease minorities & work on personal agenda for the next 5 years. They succeed getting minority votes by creating fear. It's just how it is portrayed by the pseudo-secular parties to garner votes. Reflect how they target Modi for the Gujrat riots, calling him a murderer, totally overlooking the Supreme Court ruling in the matter. The secular shroud of the congress and the Modi (anti-Modi) wave are the Congress's creation. No party can claim copyrights for secularism. It's our way of life, it's our culture. Religious tolerance & co-existence in India dates back to millennia. It's in our Constitution. It's not the Congress's creation, pseudo-secularism is! It is pity some of us are falling pray to this tactic by Congress.

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  • JP, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    May be one should find out who prompted Mr. Fernandes to write this book on the eve of elections

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  • VIJAY LEWIS, Mumbai/Shirva

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Its only the view of principal. He didn't impose any restriction on students to vote. Above all, how can the principal knows whom the students voted!! Some !d0t politicians can make issue of just anything.... But I know him, he is a good man.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Every person has the right to express his opinion.
    But sending mails to students criticizing one party and supporting another and saying be cautious while voting is unwarranted for. He has gone slightly overboard.
    Has he ever commented on Shiv sena?
    This is as per convenience!!!
    I think religious people should abstain from politics and concentrate in the field they are assigned for.

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  • Eric D'Sa, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Fr. Mascarenhas is generally echoing what is being stated by the present Pope, who has criticized openly crony capitalists, corruption and disparity of wealth. All minorities will like to see the parties and governments that are secular and communal. If Muslims are now forced to live in ghettos because of the model of governance being followed in Gujrat, it needs to be pointed out when the Gurat model is being branded about as the best model.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Fr. Mascarenhas is generally echoing what is being stated by the present Pope,
    UnquoteIf it was so then he should have taken the topic of corruption and equally bashed the ruling government also.
    This is purely biased with motive.

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  • Ashish, Mangalore/ UAE

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Dear Mr. Fernandes,

    Appreciate your views and effort to gather secondary data's. but could you please even clarify us why there is actual bias with respect to Muslims??

    I personally appreciate Ftr. Mascarenhas points.

    As Mr. Fernandes quote in article that Muslims prefer to choose the schools which run by Muslim communities.. So does Gujrat provide equality here??? And does the so called anticipated C.M Mr. Modi is a secular enough in holding the Minority interest??
    I am being an ordinary citizen of India can clearly make out the inefficient govt!! So hope Mr. Fernandes will come up with a detailed survey report, which just doesn't provide info, but also a greater aspects for the people of Gujrat and Indians to overcome the challenges in future days

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Manglaore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Chaaiwaala is a utter failure in Gujarat.

    AN UNFIT RSS REMOTE CONTROLLED PRIME MINISTER CANDIDATE.

    We Indians feel shame if this Poster-Boy becomes P.M of India.

    GOD FORBID THIS DELUDED DEVISIVE MAN MODI WHO COULD'T SUSTAIN HIS OWN FAMILY AND AB CHALA DHEISH CHALAANE....

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  • Raj, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Manglaore...He failed and ruling 3rd term in Guj...I feel pity on your comments in Daiji. I feel you are a blind supporter of Congress. Better take retirement from commenting post election results. Thanks.

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  • B. Gopi Krishna, Hyderabad

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    I am from Andhra Pradesh known for high levels of acceptance. I have travelled in parts of Andhra recently and I swear I saw crosses and stars everywhere by the roadside. I am also 100% sure none of the people in these hamlets know their pulpit from their pew. That's because there is not a single church in site anywhere. And very few have heard of Arun Shourie's Harvesting our souls book. We ain't no sheep, Sir. Do bless us and leave demagogy to the "democratic" people.

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  • KS, CHD

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Ground water depletion is Punjab is caused by free electricity to the farmers as the pumps run 24/7.The author is no different than the school Principal in thought process.Regardless,Gujaratis & Punjabis are bees who know how to make their honey,any model is utter nonsense.

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  • Naveen Shetty, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Looks like Vivian Fernandes is trying to get publicity free of cost to increase his book sales.

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  • Naveen Shetty, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Everyone has the right to express their opinion because of the perspectives change depending upon how they filter the information.

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  • Roshan P D'Mello, M'lore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Modi will bring with him an era of big business deciding on government policy examples are already abound, with the Modi government recommending a price of $14 per million BTUs of gas to be paid out of our pockets to Reliance instead of their earlier committed $2.34 per mBTU - and in the other billionaire Adani getting land and government infrastructure at throwaway prices in BJP-led Rajasthan.
    The BJP's difference with the Congress will basically be that instead of the government stealing from us and keeping it all only for themselves, this time they'll steal from us, and give it to the Ambanis and Adanis, apart from keeping a lot for themselves.

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  • gabriel, sagar

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Since Every State has its own model of governance why only harp on the Gujarat model? For All-India we need an Indian model which is all-inclusive without any discrimination based on caste, creed and religion- Development of every Indian in every sphere!

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  • Akash, Mumbai

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    Well Response by Vivian Fernandes to a Pseudo Secularist...

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Apr 23 2014

    What do you mean by Pseudo Secularist? WHy dont you go and ask dongey babas about their views?

    Just the other day Baba Ramdev is caught on TV discussing about black money? Baba Aseemanand who was a Katputhi in the hands of RSS?

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