70 Hindus allegedly converted to Christianity in UP


Lucknow, Dec 18 (IANS): Over 70 Hindus have been allegedly converted to Christianity in Uttar Pradesh's Bahraich district. While district officials are probing the matter, a suspect from an outfit called India Hope Center has been arrested, police said.

A district official said office bearers of the outfit are active in the Kamalpuri village and that they were trying to allure villagers into accepting Christianity.

However, District Magistrate Satyendra Kumar told IANS Thursday that it has not been confirmed if the conversions took place.

"We have send officials to the village and are trying to ascertain the veracity of the charges," he added.

Kumar said the district administration was vigilant about such issues. Intelligence officials, however, said the India Hope Center activities "had picked up in the area" for the past few months, especially after the floods.

"They had distributed relief material to the villagers and it is feared that in lieu of this they tried to allure the villagers into embracing Christianity," a police official said.

Police said they are looking for the India Hope Center head. Sources said that the 'baptism' of villagers Lallan, Bhaniram, Amarjeet, Happy, Shyamlal, Jawahar Lal, Benchan Prasad and many others was done by Bishop Mahendra Kumar.

The converts were also seen wearing crosses but they have now gone underground for fear of police, a local said.

Meanwhile, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) demanded a thorough probe into the episode.

"It is amazing and disturbing that the chief minister is mum on this issue while he does not miss any chance to score political points when the issue is about Muslims being converted to Hinduism," said Vijaya Bahadur Pathak, state spokesman of the BJP.

Meanwhile, a series of 'Ghar Wapasi' (home coming) events are lined up for Thursday in Allahabad and Varanasi. Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP) leaders Ashok Sinhal and Sumeru seer Narendranand Saraswati will camp in Varanasi to make the events a success.

Advocating a stern law to curb all religious conversions, Singhal said that he will not disclose the event venue for now and would proceed with the home coming events.

A home department official told IANS that district administrations across the state were being sensitized on the matter.

 

  

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  • Tom Cat, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    conversion is way of distracting people minds from development and return of black money abroad.The dim witted get swayed.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear Vedaasthuthi, udupi,

    Is veidaasthuthi your name,

    If you are following your veidhaas for whom you fear.

    A person who lives lawfully and righteously will never feel of fear of him or his name.

    I quote yours: “There is even a school of thought that Jesus even visited India, so the history of Christians goes beyond the Portuguese” Unquote.
    You can assume, presume and think about school of thought. But where is this in the whole of the Holy Bible.

    The Holy Bible is the oldest scripture available even in the papyrus to prove to the present humans which are even preserved in the Divine Library London.

    I am asking you where is this in the whole of the Holy Bible wherein Jesus came to India and learned Sanskrit, or Buddhism or Hinduism. Was Hinduism prevalent prior to 200 B.C.,

    Our God perceives any language of the humans not exclusively Sanskrit.

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    What kind of an all-loving being would favour only a fractious percentage of humanity and damn all others? Why would a god who “desired that none should perish” (P-e-t-e-r 3:9) have a special elite club that excluded most of humanity?
    -You missed this isn't it..any justification??
    later will see how the supreme uses language
    dhanyavad

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    “There is even a school of thought that Jesus even visited India, so the history of Christians goes beyond the Portuguese” Unquote.
    You can assume, presume and think about school of thought. But where is this in the whole of the Holy Bible.
    -very funny…do you know who posted this sentence “There is even a school of thought that Jesus even visited India, so the history of Christians goes beyond the Portuguese”??!!
    At least read comments fully, then analyze it before commenting!!its a hom work for you if interested!!

    I am asking you where is this in the whole of the Holy Bible wherein Jesus came to India and learned Sanskrit, or Buddhism or Hinduism. Was Hinduism prevalent prior to 200 B.C.,
    This you have to ask with dellusioned/illusioned person named a.v.a manglr, I just took it to the next level if and only if…feel pity on you !!
    Come on Joseph bro , you got to think out of the box!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    @ Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
    Jesus was speaking broken Greek i.,e Aramaic the oldest and most probably He might be knowing Hebrew because Jesus was a Jew. The Holy Bible was written in four Languages Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek and in Latin.
    -FYI ,If I need to compare the greek/hebrew words which is the original one(translated to English) then you need to read this on yoga part..

    Yoga: A Hindu discipline aimed at training the consciousness for a state of perfect spiritual insight and tranquillity.
    Important derivatives are: yoke, jugular, subjugate, joust, adjust, juxtapose, join, junction, juncture, junta, conjugal, injunction, yoga.
    Yoke: A crossbar with two U-shaped pieces that encircle the necks of a pair of oxen or other draft animals working together Something that connects or joins together a bond or tie.
    yoke, jugular, subjugate, joust, adjust, juxtapose, join, junction, juncture, junta, conjugal, injunction,yoga. to join. from Greek zugon, yoke, and zugoun, to join
    YUGA, from Sanskrit yugam, oke. Suffixed form *yeug-mö. ZEUGMA, from Greek zeugma, a bond. III. Suffixed o-grade form *youg-o-. YOGA, from Sanskrit yoga¡, union. [Pokorny 2. ðeu- 508.] Thus we have connected the words Yoke and Yoga.
    On the basis of his teaching relative to seeking within, practicing the single eye, taking no thought, and the Greek connection of the word Yoke to Yoga, is it not obvious what Jesus was teaching? THE BACKGROUND OF YOGA From the Internet site Pandoras Wordbox . Yoga first popped up more then 3,000 years ago in what we now call India. The word yoga comes from the Sanskrit word ‘yuj’ which means to bind, join, attach yoke. Yuj also means union, to direct and concentrate ones attention. In other words Yoga is about concentrating your mind and body to bind yourself to God. Its about disciplining yourself to balance your mind, soul and emotions so that you can connect with your individual spirit which is in turn part of the Supreme..

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    contd...
    Yuj also means union, to direct and concentrate ones attention. In other words Yoga is about concentrating your mind and body to bind yourself to God. Its about disciplining yourself to balance your mind, soul and emotions so that you can connect with your individual spirit which is in turn part of the Supreme Universal Spirit or light.
    So If the comparison of verses made you reply without knowing what yoga deals with then its left to you!!
    What say…
    Dhanyavad

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Sat, Dec 20 2014

    Vedaasthuthi, udupi & Joseph, who care for the conversion issue and the so called religious discussion.

    You guys discuss here these issues because your belly is full.

    For the poor man, whose belly has shrunk and it only generates fire because of starvation, all these theological discussion will not make any sense.

    We are living in Commercial world and if for the poor man, money comes in for conversion, I wish he/she should do it and educate their children. Again if he goes back to his old religion for benefit, he/she has to do it. Then those who convert people for money, will be tired and their coffers will be empty. Ultimately the poor benefits and the deceitful people will disappear.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear Vedaasthuthi, udupi,.

    VEIDHAAS IS NOT OLDER THAN THE HOLY BIBLE. HOLY BIBLE IS THE OLDEST AND THE VEIDHAAS WERE WRITTEN IN THE FIRST CENTURY.

    DO YOU HAVE ORIGINAL VEIDHAAS WRITTEN IN PAPYRUS AS WE HAVE IN ORIGINAL WRITTEN IN PAPYRUS.

    IS THERE A WORD HINDU OR HINDUISM IN THE VEIDAAS.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear vedaasthuthi,

    Yoga has nothing to do with spirituality to attain eternal life.

    Yoga is promoted to propagate Hinduism.

    All these yoga centers are conversion centers.

    The oldest is the Holy Bible.
    I have no belief in the Yogas.

    Even i didn't read your yoga explanation because it is worthless to read and perform time wasting yogaas.

    i HAVE ALREADY COMMENTED BELOW SOME GOOD EXERCISES THAN THE YOGAS.

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  • Judith L, MUMBAI

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    snake in a monkeys shadow or rather you may say changes names as per ghar wapasi schemes. Name changing ideology everyone knows is of which Political Party in India.

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    @ Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
    Even today the Brahmins never teach the meanings of the slokas to Hindus. Even many poojaries are unknown of the slokaas meaning yet pronounce only by-heart.
    Before going to this kindly clear this , who are protestants , are Catholics allowed to vist their worshiping place??/vice versa… what diffence they have!!?? coz not only the followers of dharma misusing their holy scriptures and word GOD but others....
    FYI, any person can read/study slokas these days and word caste is an European innovation!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • Roshan, Sacheripete/Abu Dhabi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    I oppose any conversion it is against law of the land and God of Universe never support this idea, Grace is for sinners, for great sinners yes, for the greatest sinners, the vilest of sinners. This abundant grace will pardon any sin, and all sin. It will save any sinner, or all sinners for sinners do not perish because grace cannot save them they perish because their own pride and ignorance (lack of true knowledge). THE BLOOD OF JESUS — HIS BLOOD ALONE — cleanses from sin!
    “For THE WAGES OF SIN is death but the GIFT OF GOD IS eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23).

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  • shuba, mumbai

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    As long as the citizen of India gets his basic needs like roti kapda makaan for which the good governance is sought thereafter its each individual's decision on worshiping one God the Creator whichever name you call Him

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    @ Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
    No one claimed that yesus visited India, The post was on what a.v.a/manglr stated regarding school of thought(you missed the word assumption in my previous post).
    kindly go through below statement!!
    What kind of an all-loving being would favour only a fractious percentage of humanity and damn all others? Why would a god who “desired that none should perish” (P-e-t-e-r (3:9)) have a special elite club that excluded most of humanity?
    Any justification on this
    Dhanyavad

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
    “There is even a school of thought that Jesus even visited India, so the history of Christians goes beyond the Portuguese”
    Now as per teachings of Jesus , We can assume that he visited India and was practicing HINDU YOGA”
    Did you get on the post which I replied to Mr a.v.a, mlore , as these days people are propagating on jesus visit to India!!
    And what did you find wrong in those comparison ??!!
    Verses !! kindly share your opinion on below verse which is mentioned in Torah way before Jesus was born!
    Deut-eronomy, 18:19, 20. “And it will be the man who does not listen to My words, but who speaks in My name, I will inquire from him. However, a prophet who sinfully speaks a matter in My name which I did not command to speak and he speaks in the name of other God’s, you must kill that prophet.
    This clearly states that the next prophet spoke against God’s laws in God’s name, attempting to change what God said. God’s Torah teaches that this crime is so great it deserves death.
    Also,
    Deuteronomy, 5:19: “These matters (the Ten Commandments) God spoke to your entire assembly from amidst flames, cloud, and thick darkness, a great voice not to be repeated, and He wrote them on two tables of stone and gave them to me.”
    God clearly states that such a revelation at Sinai, a ion of a people, and specifically a giving of a law, will never be repeated.
    What say.. we will come back what language son of god or Jesus spoke ..!!
    Dhanyavad

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  • Roshan, Sacheripete/Abu Dhabi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear Reader, I asked one of the Hindu brother from India, why you preach your Christ. He said we do not preach Christian religion, religion has no power to save, but Gospel of Jesus Christ, He added……..
    Anil Kant's short poem on Ghar wapsi

    "Hindu parivar se aata hu
    ek sachi baat sunata hu,
    Do hazaar ek (2001)
    me ek din meri Yeshu Masih se hui mulakat,
    Krus pe ja ke kode kha ke, paap Usne mere kar diye maaf.
    Yeshu ne 'khud' mujhe diya paigam, tha ye nahi kisi insaan ka kaam.
    Na kisi goray ka, na kisi kale Ka,
    aur na kisi rishwat dene wale ka.
    Dharma nahi maine jeevan hai badla,
    Isme tumhe kya aapatti bhala.
    Mazhab kaho isme kaha see aya?
    Vatican isme kaha se aya?
    Hindu kya Bible nahi padh sakta,
    Yeshu ka chela nahi ban sakta?
    Aur mere jaise lakho karodo hai apne India me Yeshu ke chele.

    Yeshu ko jana, kya fark padta
    ek peedhi pehle ya das peedhi pehle?

    Ghar Wapsi ki kya karte ho baatein
    Ghar se mai duur gaya hi nahi tha.

    Bharat ka hoon Bhartiya rahoonga, in sasti baato se nahi darunga.

    Christian se Hindu ya Hindu se Christian mukti kabhi aise milti nahi.

    Aatmik baatein, satya ki baatein jhagde ladai se mit ti nahi.

    Paap ko chodo, anyaay chodo, Prabhu ke sath ghamand ko na jodo.

    Bharat ki prem pratha hai purani, likho nahi nafrat ki kahani.

    Pyaar nahi to kuch bhi nahi, tum bhi nahi hum bhi nahi.

    Ghar Wapsi ki kya karte ho baatein?
    Ghar se mai duur gaya hi nahi,

    Ghar se mai duur gaya hi nahi.

    Ghar se mai duur gaya hi nahi."

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  • Roshan, Sacheripete/Abu Dhabi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear Reader, I have asked one of the Christian why you preach your religion. He said we do not preach religion, religion has no power to save, but Gospel of Jesus Christ, He added……..
    I do not know anything that can change lives move than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It can unite broken homes, draw the alcoholic from the cup, the gambler from the cards, the addict from the needle, the harlot from the streets and draw all people into the Kingdom of God. It changes lives. It changed my life and that is why we have given out lives to preach the Gospel. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away behold, all things are become new." (2 Cor 5:17 KJV)
    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation but is passed from death unto life." (John 5:24 KJV)

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  • JP, Vijayapura

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear SPAT..
    you comment only shows how ignorant you are. Before writing a comment do some homework. Vatican has nothing to do with the silly so called conversion. One thing is sure. Those who convert for rewards and allurements, they are not truly genuine. There has been a sea change in the theology and teaching of the Church. Preaching a religion and sharing about faith experience is one's fundamental right. But conversion can take place for two reasons. Firstly, the convertee is dissatisfied with his/her present faith. Secondly, he/she is spiritually inspired to follow a different path. Don't you think it is their fundamental right?

    But if one converts for the material benefits he gets, it is not a spiritual experience. He/she will keep converting whenever he/she gets benefits. Don't trust such people. And those who are involved in such activities should be discouraged. They may be belonging to a particular sect but they spoil the name of the whole religious community. Check their antecedents.Don't blame Vatican for every stupidity of some uneducated and illiterate persons. Nuns and priests of Catholic church go through years of training in faith and moral values. They also read the signs of time. Rendering humane service to people, irrespective of caste, creed and color is their mission. Go and visit some of the orphanages, HIV care centers, hospitals and children's homes. You will find the truth. Unfortunately, these days even they are scare and discouraged because of the motives people attribute to their service to humanity. What they do is due to their faith experience. Genuine faith experience sees other a child of God no matter to which religion or faith that person belongs. Discourage all politically motivated conversions but encourage people to fine God and grow as children of God.

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    "RELIGION IS OPIUM TO SOCIETY".

    Even though I am against conversion but if it suits to satisfy one's own needs, for him/ her who cares to Religion - as far as that persons needs met.

    Few days back in Aligarh few muslims and Christians got converted to Hindus and in turn they have been promised ration card, better living etc etc. If these promises are not met they will go back to their old HOUSE like cat will go to vegetarian house for betterment. If not, goes back to old habits of eating non veg.

    Here in this case, during flood time, for these people, nobody helped except the "India Hope Center" and they in turn started wearing the symbol of their helper who might be their role model and helper in need.

    RSS recently said with regard to UP conversion, to convert a Muslim to Hindu, it costs them Rs. 2 lac and Christian to Hindu Rs. 5 lac.

    Poor downtrodden, poor dalits use this tool and in turn get the material benefit. Right now use this as a beneficial to u and in turn educate your children for better tomorrow.

    True Religion will not vanish rather it will proper.

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  • avinash, ksd/bluru

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Now its 'ALLEGEDLY converted' coz in this case its Hinduism to Christianity but few days back when it was Christianity to Hinduism it was just 'converted'

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  • avinash, ksd/bluru

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    These people will do the conversion very nicely. For example, in b'luru' nowadays we can see a poster or banner which talks about 'powertochangeindia'. When anyone see this poster they will think that its about some moral values, increasing efficiency etc.. But when you go to their website you will come to know that its all about jesus. If you call the toll free no. they will take your address and will give free books etc. on christianity. This is how these missioneries will work.

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  • Judith L, MUMBAI

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    does your hare rama krishna mission not work the same with Christian foreigners? you will never help ur own community but keep on blabbering conversion since u r majority and law and order is in your side.

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  • Ed,

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Those who think their religion is weak and unlogic always create scene for a single conversion. Forget the political parties they are just taking political mileage. Religion does not need laws and protection. People failed to understand that religion is faith no one can force,lure to accept it. if att all it happened then it is temporary. So why to worry and protest in streets and halting all those daily progress, daily work. Grow up. We are not in shila yuga...Dont make nonsense please. Of which development you are talking bla bla bla...

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  • Roy dsouza, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    one has no right to force someone who he or she is getting married to, if I was about to marry someone outside my religion i would never ask her to convert her to my religion..! In other words "RELIGION IS THE STUPIDEST THING MAN HAS EVER CREATED WHICH LEADS TO NOTHING OTHER THAN FIGHT AND DISHARMONY AMONGST THE PEOPLE" ( this comment is totally outside the context)

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Yes, but now we have religion at place and we can’t it. Best option would be how we can live together with respecting each others belief!

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  • praveen, mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    FIRST TRY TO KNOW YOUR OWN RELIGION,IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH YOUR HOME, YOU ARE NOT YET ALL FIT TO LIVE HAPPY ELSEWHERE. RESPECT OTHER RELIGION ALSO BUT NOT TO BE CONVERTED. UNITY IS IMPORTANT.THEN ONLY WE ARE INDIAN.

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  • Shalini, kinnigoli/Mumbai

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    I truly agree to your advise albert. But this could be a propaganda too to harass us. I dont think they are forced to convert. Just because we minorities dont make a hue and cry they try to malign our image. I am sure this is not true.

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  • Judith L, MUMBAI

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    U R right becos the govt and police is on side of majority so they take advantage and spread false propaganda. In the first place why fanatics not helping their people atleast with basic necessities like food,clothing medical,primary education, shelter. Infact the upper class hindus do not want to release their hold on lower class whom they exploit for labour and doing other works like bondage labour so when missionaries educate the lower caste and treat them like humans they become against them and brand them as conversionist in the meanwhile those who are oppressed may be tired of being oppressed and on their own convert without force.

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Judith L, MUMBAI..Don’t worry too much other community!! Check why they are different sectors and difference of opinions coming up in your own community!! You Live and let others live!

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  • Judith L, MUMBAI

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    kkr, that is true with every community like in every community there are right and wrong people unless you remove wrong people the community will never succeed. Remember "two wrongs cannot make one right but two rights can" Pls. come forward and help the poor and downtrodden from your community so, that they have at least basic necessities fulfilled and thereafter we can say live and let live.

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  • Mangalorean, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Judith, After reading your comments, i can only say how biased you are. In the whole article you only found ghar wapsi

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  • vidisha, Mumbai

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    How can you say it is the priest and nuns who are forcefully converting people? Do you know there are so many sect of Christianity, those who have split from the church. These are the people who are responsible for distributing phamplets and enticing people to join their group. The catholic church is blamed for anything and everything.

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  • Albert, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    My sincere appeal to all nuns ans priests to stop either forcing or luring poor people to Christianity in the name of Jesus, service, money or good life!
    After all humanity is more than religion. God send us to work well. He will care for us. you need not bother for him!!

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  • R N , kollur

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Meaningfull comment, I really liked the last word of your comment.It applies for both – Ghar chodo and Gharwapasi!!

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  • SPAT , Surathkal

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    This is the ultimate mission of the missionaries ..I really doubt if the ultimate objective is better life and liberation or some religion covered political control from Vatican and its subsidiaries??...To be honest the fundamentals are no different from that of other extremist thoughts ..that I am the only way ..The Indian philosophy is the only philosophy is the only one which says we entitled to choose any path to god. This is the only way to real peace in the world.

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  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    hi albert mangalore,

    good comment.

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  • Lydia Lobo, Kadri

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    @ Albert, reveal your real name. You for sure not a christian.

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  • Albert, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    @ Lydia Lobo, Kadri,
    Please do not bother about my religion. I am HUMAN first and HUMANITY is my practice. Hope you are aware of what happened in Pakistan by 'religious' terrorists!
    it is religion which is killing us.
    You may be proud to a Christian, but you may be beaten because of the illegal activity of conversion! Be Human or Indian first, next think about Christianity , Hindusim or Islam!!
    Happy X mas!

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  • praveen, mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    pls read history before commenting on when Christianity landed in India.

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  • Suman, Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    I wonder why sickular politicians paid media is silent now. Our daiji dongi commentators taken U turn. Height of Hypocrisy..

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  • Ronald D, Udupi

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Dinesh pooojary... why congress votes??? Congress people are as much Indian and better than home stay attackers, church attackers and pub attackers!!

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  • Societal Web, Dubai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    By the way . . .Web Google meaning. "Homecoming is the tradition of welcoming back alumni of a school. It is a tradition in many universities, colleges, and high schools in the United States. It usually includes activities for students and alumni, such as sports and culture events and a parade through the streets of the city or town." Why are Hindus borrowing this term, if they don't want Western culture to be a part of Hinduism.

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  • Ranjith, udupi

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    FEKU got elected at centre, now everybody wants to emulate him and become FEKUS including members of India Hope Centre...Big FEKU has created a chain reaction of small Fekus..this is the power of fekugiri esp, when spoken from the dias with loudspeaker

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  • Societal Web, Dubai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    I am a Christian and I am dead against these stupid conversions. India Hope Center - What the hell are you guys doing?

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Societal Web,
    Jesus said, no one can come to me unless my Father in heaven sends him to me.
    Preaching is fine, serving, charity also is fine, somebody embraces Christianity on their own accord also fine. But If anyone tries to bring in people through deceiving means, he / she is a deceiver,lair follower of Satan, uses the name of God.
    Some time I feel, some people or groups may have hidden agenda to do such works to spoil our name and invite trouble for us.

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  • Societal Web, Dubai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    I agree with you. If you were born a Hindu you wouldn't have said this, or if you born a Muslim for that matter. Religion is created by evil to destroy nations, and we fall for it. Jesus never created a religion, not did any Hindu Gods. The followers did. Why we kill ourselves for religion. It makes no sense at all. If God created man for a reason then why would that same God say there is only one way to Heaven. We believe it, but why should other religions believe it. You are born to a set of parents and you love them. Can you disown your parents and take on some other parents because of some reason?

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  • John Tauro , M'lore / Kwt

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Religion is a personal matter. It’s purely a matter of one’s conscience. Everyone should be free to convert or reconvert to the religion of his / her choice. Why should the issue be politicized? Why should MPs and the government interfere in it? If at all there are allegations of inducement/enticement/ allurement or any kind of pressure or force is used in conversion, let the convert file FIR and let the law of the land take its own course.

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  • Dinesh Poojary, Kundapura/Bengaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    70 more votes for congress.

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  • santhosh poojary, bantwal/qatar

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    brother Dinesh poojary..
    70 hindus converted..so you are counted them as Congress voters..then what about those Muslims converted to Hindu..BJP or Congress voters..mind ur tongue before speaking..this all mastermind plan made by BJP govt to create divide and trouble rule all over India..

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  • mohan, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    instead all indulging in this nonsense conversion, B.J.P should concentrate on development, job creation, upliftment of poor people,s living std etc.
    Let people decide themselves in which way they will live in peace and better life.

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  • MATASH, UDUPI

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    its just a propaganda to divert the attentions of common citizens of India from the main and important issues like BLACK MONEY,SWATCH BHARATH, ACCHE DIN, 15-20 LAKHS DISTRIBUTION CEREMONY FROM THE BLACK MONEY, INFLATION OF PRICE ETC

    SIMPLE FUNDA HAI BOSS:-
    keep the people busy in unnecessary bulls##t issues like LOVE JIHAD, CONVERSION, HINDUTHVA, STEALING COWS FROM SHEDS, RIOTS, DAILY PROTESTS ON THE ROADS ETC.

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  • Kumar,

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Welcome to Hindu Caliphate of India run by Sultan Modi.

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  • nagesh nayak, bangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    HEY PSUEDOS,

    BEFORE VASCO DA GAMA STEPPED IN INDIA THERE WAS NO CHRISTAINS.

    HOW COME NOW SO MANY.

    THRU CONVERSION ONLY.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Keep aside conversions! Why, you perceive Christians as problem?
    Why are you so negative?
    Don't you see the good works they have done?
    Do you feel, without Christians, it would have been better?

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  • shahid, Ullal

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Those who have disease in their heart will not able to see goodness.

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  • Devesh, Bangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Christianity is a 'faith' based religion, which means you have to believe in the 'Bible' unconditionally. Propagation of the 'faith' is essential for the church and the individual. The goal is to eventually get as many 'sheep' into it's fold. That is the reason why Christians don't oppose conversion. Now, in India when a Christian or Muslim goes back to Hindu dharma, it is homecoming. Remember, if I were to convert into Christianity my children are automatically catholic. There is no question of choice. If I am wrong what choice did you have since it was your ancestor who converted. You should have left that old man go his way and you stayed with the Hindu dharma. What kind of a protector are you of this Dharma.?

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  • John Tauro , M'lore / Kwt

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    There had been Christians in India (present Kerala and T.N.)even before Vasco Da Gama's ancestors became Christians in Europe. It is agreed that today around 35% of population in Goa is Christian mostly due to forced conversions. The British missionaries never used force.

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  • a.v.a, mlore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Do you know about Jews, well they were here a long time ago, also Christians who were the earliest followers of Apostle Thomas. There is even a school of thought that Jesus even visited India, so the history of Christians goes beyond the Portuguese. Accepted many low casts did change over because of discrimination. Even now there is nothing called Hinduism its more casts which are the various religion of the region called Hindustan.

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear a.v.a, mlore
    “There is even a school of thought that Jesus even visited India, so the history of Christians goes beyond the Portuguese”
    Now as per teachings of Jesus , We can assume that he visited India and was practicing HINDU YOGA-
    THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS =Jesus teachings were quite clear and quite contrary to contemporary Christian thought.
    Luke 17:21 The Kingdom of God is within you. Here Jesus states that the Kingdom of God is a matter of consciousness. It is a matter of inner light .
    Matthew 6:33 Seek first the Kingdom of God. Here Jesus states that what comes first is not prayer, not hymns, not church, not religion, but seeking within yourself, meditation.
    Luke 11:52 Woe unto you lawyers. You take away the key of knowledge, you enter not in yourselves and them that are entering in you hindered. Jesus states that those who make religious law fail because they do not enter within themselves and they hinder others who are trying to find the key by entering within. How true that is of contemporary religion.
    Matthew 6:22 If your eye be single your body will fill with light. Here Jesus speaks of stimulating the single eye or Pineal Gland of the brain. Matthew 6:33 Take no thought for your life. From Matthew 6:25 through 6:33 Jesus states over and over the need to take no thought. Separate from the thoughts of the mind.
    Mark13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch. Here the admonition deepens for us to watch within ourselves thereby collapsing the wave and attracting the cosmic photon, angle or Angel.
    So here we have Jesus Christ quoted in the Bible as providing instructions for finding God, for finding life. Practice the single eye, separate from the thoughts of the mind, find knowledge and the Kingdom of God within yourself. DOES IT NOT SEEM THAT JESUS WAS COMFORTABLE WITH YOGA ?
    Jesus is teaching what New Agers are condemned by religion for doing. Jesus is teaching the very thing that so many in the New Age are strictly following....

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear Vedaasthuthi, udupi
    Illusions, imaginations, doubt, wrong information will lead humans to perplexity to follow wrong path. There is not even a single specification of Jesus in the whole of the holy bible who came to India, studied and performed yoga. Holy bible was not written to counter any other religion.
    Jesus never had been in Kashmir in India. He was born miraculously who was in heaven and came down from heaven for the salvation of Humans, sacrificed himself on the cross for the sins of the whole world and there ended sacrificing of animals, birds and cereals offerings once for all.
    Jesus was speaking broken Greek i.,e Aramaic the oldest and most probably He might be knowing Hebrew because Jesus was a Jew. The Holy Bible was written in four Languages Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek and in Latin. For us Christians Language Is not a problem and as your poojaas are all performed only in Sanskrit. Can you say why poojaas are all performed only in Sanskrit, the slokaas are pronounced in Sanskrit only and why not in English, Kannada, Konkani, Tulu and In Hindi or in Hebrew.

    Secondly, Jesus spoke about purifying once soul, hearts and mind. Body is nothing which is perishable once a human dies. Jesus never had been in India, never learnt yoga nor Sanskrit and He never taught all these to His twelve disciples. There is not a single mention /specification that Jesus came to India and learned and performed Yoga. The Holy bible never specifies his existence from out of Israel except Egypt. The one who was in Haven had full of Knowledge born miraculously sinless and faultless.
    Solomon prays and asks God I quote Kings 8:46 "When they sin against you for there is no one who does not sin.Unquote.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    I quote John 8: 23 But he continued, "You are from below I am from above. You are of this world I am not of this world. Unquote.

    The one who was from above had with full of knowledge and wisdom and un-imperative to learn your Yoga and Sanskrit.

    There is no human who is sinless and faultless except God. After building the temple of God Solomon prays to God 2 CHRONICLES 6: 36. IF THEY SIN AGAINST THEE, (FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SINNETH NOT,).

    Jesus as a human is sinless and faultless (John 8:46). The Word of God was eternal which is in the eternal who became flesh and dwelt among us. The Heavenly Father manifested all of us through His Son Jesus Christ so that we all become sons and daughters in His Kingdom (2 CORINTHIANS 7:18 YE SHALL BE MY SONS AND DAUGHTERS) through the blood of Jesus Christ.

    MATTHEW 26:28 “FOR THIS IS MY BLOOD OF THE COVENANT WHICH IS POURED OUT FOR MANY FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS”.

    When Adam sinned, sin couched upon all humanity. God promised that he will send Jesus to us in the very beginning which most of us are unaware of
    GENESIS 3:15 I WILL PUT ENMITY BETWEEN YOU AND THE WOMEN AND BETWEEN YOUR SEED AND HER SEED: HE SHALL BRUISE YOUR HEAD AND YOU SHALL BRUISE HIS HEEL”.

    Her seed will bruise his head and he will bruise his heel. Hence Jesus was the first-born among the dead.

    John 12:24. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

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  • Vedaasthuthi, udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    contd...
    Jesus is teaching what New Agers are condemned by religion for doing. Jesus is teaching the very thing that so many in the New Age are strictly following. Disciplining body and mind to raise the consciousness to the point of enlightenment. Or as Jesus said , practicing the single eye so as to fill with light. JESUS TEACHER OF YOGA
    Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart and you shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Of course a yoke can be a burden that restrains its wearer. But we are considering Jesus who speaks of the inner kingdom, seeking within, entering within oneself to find the key of knowledge, practicing the single eye and taking no thought.
    Dhanyavad

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Vedaasthuthi, udupi,

    Why we need yoga for good health???!!!

    GOD HAS GIVEN US BEAUTIFUL RIVERS AND SEAS TO SWIM.
    SWIM FOR 20-30 MINUTES DAILY AND IT IS A FULL EXERCISE AND GOOD FOR THE HEALTH AND BODY.

    1) A brisk Walk for half an hour daily. Or
    2) Moderate run daily for 1-20 minutes.
    3) Swim at least 20-30 minutes daily.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Dear Vedaasthuthi, udupi,
    I quote: Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered. Unquote
    People make law for themselves and not for humans as the Brahmins hid the Sanskrit language from ordinary Hindus as the Pharisees did in the olden days.
    The conversion law is concerned only to fundamentals and not to ordinary Hindus.

    Even today the Brahmins never teach the meanings of the slokas to Hindus. Even many poojaries are unknown of the slokaas meaning yet pronounce only by-heart.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Now the "economy" is not the main issue but " conversion".

    Forced conversion/re-conversion/induced conversion/allurement conversion etc are making headlines.

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  • homer, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Harold, Don't you know that going back to Hinduism is 'HOME COMING' and not conversion. The question would be when will you come back home.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Where is the borderline of going back? How the human beings lived in BC? Let us all go back to that day.

    Do you know, the way of life of the people of Nagaland more than 2 centuries back? GO BACK HOMECOMING, THE NEW NATIONAL AGENDA TO MAKE INDIA RICH AND PROSPEROUS!

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  • R N , kollur

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Human beings lived during BC had highest spiritual knowledge under spiritual guidence of BUDHA BHAGVAN!!lucky souls.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    MERRY CHRISTMAS - CHAMATKAR HO RAHA HAI ...

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  • BhakSala, Kankanady

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    i also want to convert. Convert convert...............my 3 bed room hall flat to 5bed room please suggest me which cement i should use other then Ambuja

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  • BhakSala, kankanady

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    some one disagreed with my comments may be he is jealous that am going to say in 5bed room flat

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Mirchi Lagli ...

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    "RELIGION IS OPIUM TO SOCIETY".

    Even though I am against conversion but if it suits to satisfy one's own needs, for him/ her who cares to Religion - as far as that persons needs met.

    Few days back in Aligarh few muslims and Christians got converted to Hindus and in turn they have been promised ration card, better living etc etc. If these promises are not met they will go back to their old HOUSE like cat will go to vegetarian house for betterment. If not, goes back to old habits of eating non veg.

    Here in this case, during flood time, for these people, nobody helped except the "India Hope Center" and they in turn started wearing the symbol of their helper who might be their role model and helper in need.

    RSS recently said with regard to UP conversion, to convert a Muslim to Hindu, it costs them Rs. 2 lac and Christian to Hindu Rs. 5 lac.

    Poor downtrodden, poor dalits use this too and in turn get the material benefit. Right now use this as a beneficial to u and in turn educate your children for better tomorrow.

    True Religion will not vanish rather it will proper.

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  • Anirudh P, Bangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Why don’t you try your luck in Bollywood ?

    You write good story !!!

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  • R N , kollur

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Harold D'cunha.. I know very well which organisation helped victims without expecting any publicity.Please don’t make use of flood kind of situation for religious benefits!! even god don’t accept it!

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    ..this time Christmas, merry Christmas let them enjoy..During Deepavali Ghar vapasi to crack crackers..and then once again EID comes..EID MUBARAK..now a days its like musical chair..

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  • masif, Jubail

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Yester Day Ration Card Conversion,
    To day flood area Conversion,
    Tomorrow???

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  • sandeep, Abudhabi

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    2013 Chai pe charcha > 2014 Dharam pe charcha>2020 BJP harneka charcha ...... lol.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Dear sandeep, Abudhabi

    FEKU SECURITY KURCHA.
    ABHI CHAAHIYE MOURCHA.
    FAILURE CHAAI PE CHURCHA.
    PADHINAIN/15 LAKSHA BOUDCHA.

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  • Shivappa, Mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Sandeep,
    Joseph bayid bakidakkal PADCHA

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  • Anonymous,

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Itte Fekunakuleg Mande Becha

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  • masif, Jubail

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Bishop Mahendra kumar impressed by Saffron organization, for converting the people,

    Saffron organization support him for full fill the Conversion agenda

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Creator God and his son Lord Jesus Christ will never endorse deceiving unjust or dishonest works.
    Jesus never drew anyone to him by deceiving.
    He taught the learned and ignorant. He served and healed the sick, fed the hungry, led very simple life. He never feared for life, but was always humble and meek. He brought peace where there was discord. People followed him on their own.
    Because of some bad elements working in our name, we are being unnecessarily being troubled.

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    NOW WHERE IS THE DHONGHI SP, BSP, CHOR CONGRESS AND LEFT....

    LAST ONE WEEK THEY ARE NOT ALLOWING PARLIAMENT TO FUNCTION ON CONVERSION ISSUE WHERE FEW MUSLIMS CONVERTED INTO HINDUISM.....

    NOW WHERE IS PAID MEDIA AND WHY THIS HYPOCRISY? HUM KIA THO BHALATHKAAR AUR AAP KIA THO CHAMATHKAAR HA?

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  • Vijay, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    What nuisance News!...keep Stoking the fire between different communities burning..... It's good for the progress of our Country...... Please stop this New life group.... Because of them the Church attacks happened on Catholics in Mangalore.

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Tit for tat....BJP can do,Sanghis can do ...why not Christians?I mean Christian org....Why can't Muslim orgs?MORE MONEY MORE GAR WAFSI MORE ENTERTAINMENT....

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  • RN, Kollur

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Dear ISMAIL K PERINJE. what ever you guys do please do it honestly,not by fake assurence like job, heven,hell whatever it is!

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  • Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    RN, Kollur
    You are absolutely right. Honest people will do clean job and Feku will do fake job irrespective of one's so called Religion.

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  • Shivappa, Mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    RN,you know some organizations are giving fake assurances like a guaranteed place in heaven to get people converted?

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat once said "cultural identity of all Hindustani's is Hindu"
    Even supreme court ruled in 2005 that Hinduism is a way of life ( a set of values & reflection of cultural identity- exclude terrorism ).

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    read it as below -
    RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat once said "cultural identity of all hindustani's is Hindu"
    Even supreme court ruled in 2005 that Hinduism is a way of life ( a set of values & reflection of cultural identity- exclude terrorism ).
    So even if within hindustan anyone proclaim that he is christian or islam or sikh..., based on the above underlying principle everyone living within Hindustan having ancestral root within Hindustan is a Hindu.

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  • Valerian Dsouza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Whether Christians or others, practicing /professing his / her faith is ones legal and moral right. Faith is a matter of choice.
    On U.S public demand, Barrack Obama gave a press statement, that, he is Christian by choice,(presumably not by birth) can anyone object to it? Many a times he praises Islam as well.
    Richard Gere embraced Buddhism, can anybody stop him?
    Boxer Mohammad Ali had embraced Islam and opted this new name.
    Bobby Jindal, United States Governor, embraced Roman Catholic faith.
    But it should be on ones free will, not under duress or corrupt means.

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  • prakash, Bhatkal

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    ಹೇ ಲಿಂಗಾ. ಹೇಳೆದ್ದೆ ಹೇಳೀ ಬೇಜ಼ಾರ್ ಆಗೋದಿಲ್ಲಾ ಮಾರಾಯ ನಿನಗೆ? ಹೇಳಿದ್ದೆ ಹೇಳೆದ್ರೆ ಹುಚ್ಚ ಅಂತಾರೆ ಜನಾ. ಹುಚ್ಚನ ತರ ಆಗ್ಬೇಡ ಮಾರಾಯ.

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  • Sudhakar, Kallianpur

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Prakash, Bhatkal,
    ಒಬ್ಬ ಹುಚ್ಚ ತಾನು ಸರಿಯಾಗಿದ್ದೇನೆ, ಆದರೆ ಇಡೀ ಜಗತ್ತೇ ಹುಚ್ಚು ಎಂದುಕೊಳ್ಳುತ್ತಾನೆ. ಆ ರೀತಿ ಆಯಿತು ನಿಮ್ಮ ಕತೆ.

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  • m.hussain, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Dear Krishna , opposition political parties are not not Hindu fundamentalist party like bJP they are progressive philosophical ideological parties and its leaders are rational think tank.

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    this is nothing.. 5 Hindus in Bihar converted 2 Christianity for medical treatment. Even cops saying, conversion common here.. EBC people who converted were promised meidcal expenses of surgery!...

    and can you fight these evnagelists.. they are sitting on piles of cash and give handsome commissions for the agents of conversion here! they are using Saffron robes, Jesus sitting on Lotus, with chaturbhuja/shhnakha chakra and all.. check those pics were Jesus is shown as Dashavatra, with some yoga mudra and all... hilarious! ... its like Hollywood films dubbed in bhojpuri!! yenchi karmana... but we r seculars... cant help it

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  • NRN, Udupi

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Then what independence we got on 1947?

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  • Alwyn, mlore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Is it forcible conversion? its not mentioned anywhere in the report..
    another Gujarat style big bang is planned....??
    kya ache din anewale hai ??
    Modiji please console me.. i am aam admi and i am confused and scared..


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  • JM, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Just a thought!!!
    By looking at the last few weeks episodes on this Christmas day conversion saga. Could it be a BJP & its allies plan. First Convert these Hindus to Christianity (For name sake only). Then organize a Ghar Vapsi program to bring these people back to Hinduism.
    This will show that Christians are converting Hindus and spread hatred and secondly by organizing a Ghar vapsi program they will be heros in hindu eyes.
    Why are they absconding?? It is not a crime to change one's religion. Could it be that the whole plan be exposed if they are caught??

    By the way, how come there are so many White people in various ashrams in India??? Why swamis are frequenting to various christian countries???

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    When Rajiv Khan can become Roberto . Antanio Maino Khan & Raul Vinci Khan can convert and become Sonia Gandhi & Rahul Gandhi...lol,,, what the big deal.

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  • Alwyn, mlore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Lingappa sir, Amsterdam is very near to Italy.. has any Italian mafia has looted you.. ??
    are you enslaved by Italians there?
    you can contact Indian embassy there if you need any help..

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Who should we contact when an Italian barmaid who is just 5th std educated,inherting a fake name and surname loots India thru a gutless individual.

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  • Alfred, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam
    Please contact FEKU PM. He has one stop solution, and he is only the person who can console people like you. You please come back to India and be of help to PM. and if you have threat from Sonia Feku will give give you "Z" category protection.

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  • Amith, udupi

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Lingappa ,

    in our country only bus conductors and waiters repeat few sentences very often ..which category you belong?

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  • Lingappa, Kuppepadavu/Amsterdam

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Amit ,,Firstly answer, what category the likes of you , jossey, Joseph, Rafiq,NM, MN, WTF etc belong to who chant, 'Fekhu' ,' Chaddi', 'Chaiwaala' day after day for each and every article?

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  • Anonymous,

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Lingappa Saar,

    You missed few,
    56 inch Chaathiwala,
    Kaala Dhan Vaapas Laanewala
    15 Lakh Baantnewala
    Pakistan, China ko Moh Thodke Jawaab Denewala
    Dhokla Khake Fekhnewala

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  • Amith, Udupi

    Fri, Dec 19 2014

    Lingappa khan you become the change you wish to see in others ...

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  • Santan Mascarenhas, Kinnigoli/Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    God is not glorified by conversion, other than that of sinners.

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  • John, Karkal-Dubai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    No fun in blaming any political party on this issue. This is ultimately every individual's choice to whic religion he/she can embrace. However, for anybody, Life is just one and always make sense to stick to the original religion where he/she come from. Ultimately what they will achieve by a change?

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  • Vijay, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Aap Convert kiya tho chamathkar, hum kiya tho balathkar... wt a shame on you

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  • India First, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    The silence of feku will result many more communal division in society .after feku failed on development he looks for whipping up communal hysteria which will meet his needs. God save this Country.

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  • Tom Cat, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    The conversion program is nothing but diverting the people mind from development that feku promised and dimwitted fall in the trap. Conversion by bjp is also scam .

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    THERE IS NO VIKAAS.
    THIS NEWS IS BAKWAAS.
    COW GOVERNENCE OF FEKUS.
    FITS TO RSS, BD, VHP OUTFITS.

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  • Shaan, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Jan Dhan yojana, Swatch bharath abhiyan, petrol-diesl prices down, gold rate came down, no corruption, no family politics etc etc...

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Dear Shaan, Mangalore,

    Petrol, diesel, Gold market depends on International market. not chaaiwaala efforts.

    We are daily witnessing asswachh bhaarath.

    Corruption has been increased.

    People are buying gold from their black money.

    FEKU CHAAIWAALA HAS NO CONTROL OVER HIS CRIMINAL M.P.'S.

    RUPEE VALUE IS DAILY COMING DOWN.

    NEVER EVER BEFORE COMMUNITIES ARE SHAKEN LIKE AS OF NOW.

    BLACK MONEY HASN'T RETURNED WITHIN 100 DAYS.

    NO TOILETS.

    NO PLANNING FOR VIKAAS AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ITSELF WAS DEMOLISHED.

    COUNTRY IS HEADING TOWARDS CHAOS AND LAWLESSNESS.

    Chaaiwaala P.M. requires visa to enter into Rajyasabha.

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  • Homer, bharat

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Corruption decreased? which department? Corruption decreases in JAPAN then also FEKU wants to claim credit

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  • Anand Kumar, Mangluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Worship God in the religion you are convinced is the right one. If another person converts what is your problem? Why do you feel threatened whoever you may be????

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  • yogesh, bombay

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Conversion bhaagya? Changing religions is worse than jumping political parties. No need of "ghar vaapsi" for such

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    This is insane...we have several problems in our country and these people are busy converting and reconverting....

    Aur doosra kam danda nahin hai kya???

    Wonder when will "VIKAAS" happen???

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  • Adil, thekkatte/dubai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    vikaas is almost done by Feku to his family and you are expecting that is for citizens???

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  • Vikas G, Udupi

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Now the hypocrite sickulars will make a U turn saying this is self volunteered conversion and NO foul play in this because this the other way round. Only when Sangh parivaar does it is against the CONSTITUTION.

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  • Declan, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    It is high time this sensitive matter of conversion is done through court proceedings (as someone has commented here) if necessary in the presence of a magistrate.
    While this procedure may not affect people in Urban areas it will certainly put a check/control on illegal forced/allured conversions in rural areas and villages where rogue groups take advantage of gullible and poor people to convert them to another religion including Christianity.

    As R.Fernandes has commented on a previous article on 'conversion' - "...just spread the 'Good news". Leave it to the individual to accept it or not accept it.

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  • Shivappa, Mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Declan,
    Individual should have the right to convert if he wants to. I think a sworn affidavit by the individual should be made mandatory (if not court or sub registrar office). The Individual must be made to swear that he is not getting converted by force or for any promises by a third party. No minor should be allowed to convert by his parents until he comes to the legal age.
    this is the only solution to the current menace.
    No mass conversion shall be allowed and no ceremonies shall be allowed.
    It should be treated as individual's right and not as a public affair.

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  • abhyankar, mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    some doubts i have .if i am hindu as on today . and tommorow i conver to other religion. i am betraying the god or dont keep faith in him.what type we human beings are dont even of any god's. really shame on us.

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    IN FEKU'S COW GOVERNENCE FEKE NEWS.

    THIS IS THE VERACITY, CAPACITY, VELOCITY AND THE DIRTY TACTICS OF THE OUTFIT RSS, BD, AND VHP.

    PROBABLY IN MEERAT FEW WEEKS BEFORE THE OUTFITS RSS, BD, AND VHP HAVE MADE 70 PEOPLE TO GHAR VAPSI BY TERRORIZING AND THESE PEOPLE NEVER HAD BEEN CONVERTED TO HINDUISM.

    GAME PLAN OF FEKUS AND HINDU OUTFITS.

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  • Peter, Dubai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    I don't know y these people making my Christmas expansive by joining Christianity. Guys pls selfish, respect ur religion, don't bring every one in to it.

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  • KKR, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Hamm peter..Rupees are converting to Christianity and Dollars embracing Hinduism!!Indeed hard time ..haha

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  • MOHAMMED, SHIRUR

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Mr. Ahyankar...ye kya love jihad leke baita hai yaar. Bhayya...koyi bhi ladki k dilme jaga banana ho tho ithni asaan baat nahi. Aap laakh koshish karo..you cant. Fact is that - love jihad is new BRAND issued by sangis and BJP for their vote bank. Be practical yaar..andherese bahar aao.

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  • abhyankar, mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    muhammed bhai im not talking against love. but there is something wrong going which our media stopped covering , clearly says something is behind that. And you can see dirty politics of BJP not congress. whcih is really unfortunate. we all are human beings muhammed bhai.

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  • Ramesh S, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    ..i feel that Ghar vapsi program is a clever trap by RSS to highlight the conversion menace in INDIA either by force/brain wash or by financial benefits..it seems sickular parties already fell to this trap..now every one will wait for sickular parties reaction in LS/RS for the above issue..BJP may push for anti conversion bill, which will further tangle sickularist in web..

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  • Af, mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Conversion, re conversion, ghar vapasi whats happening in the country.
    whether our PM saab Ghar vapas aa gaye kya?

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    ohho, as if you dont understand "conevrsion" at all...

    kya maamu only DIRHAM se INR conversion hi jaante ho? :D

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  • Af,, mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    See Mr. when accident happens between two vehicles(big and small) people will always catch hold bigger vehicles fault.aap samag gaye?

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    lekin Love Jihad jab hota hai.. tab ladke ko nahi dosh dete ho... Ladki ka dosh maante ho, for falling in love? kaunsa bigger vehicle hai usme?

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  • Shivappa, Mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Samaj gaye sir,
    aap to yahi kehna chahte hai na ki galti Hindu logon ka hi hai?

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  • Abdul jabbar, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Dimaagh hota to Love Jihad ki baat hi nahi karta..Iska dimaagh yehi bolta hai ke agar koi apple khareedega to bhai yeh apple khane ke liye nahi doosre ko phekne ke liye khareed raha hai..love jihaad jaise tutti cheez ke bare mein baat karli aur automatically dikhadiya ke kya cheez hai ye..

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  • Amith, udupi

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Ghar Reversi aand atha undu...

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  • Denzil, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    This guy's got pretty thick skin if not "HOPE" :-)

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  • Bryan, Bahrain

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    I just received a message it reads
    God's Final Message to His Creation,
    "We apologize for the inconvenience"

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  • clvie, Kuwait

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Its better to enact an anti-conversion bill and if anybody has to convert they have to go to the court with witnesses to convert.
    Conversion through incentives & coercion should be stopped.

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  • Agee, Indian-UAE

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    To my understanding. There is no force conversion in Christianity neither Jesus don't want fake heart or somebody who embrace Christianity blindly.. A person directly accountable to God is Gods child and persons accountable to people are slave.

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  • Kiran, Mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    How true is this news? Is there any evidence yet. Police have not confirmed anything. Probably these people have just gone there to help the poor people but some outfit/fanatics see "dal mein kala” just because they are Christians. They would prefer the poor people to die rather than see any missionaries helping them. I believe this is nothing but BJP's way of diverting attention from the reconversion issue and trying to make believe the country their actions were correct. Let the police provide any evidence and then I will say it’s a mistake if really conversion has taken place.

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  • R N , kollur

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    expected comment!

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  • abhyankar, mumbai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    kiran this news will disappear withing few hours as if nothing has done . same way how our media closed the chapter of luv jihaad. or may be they will put blame on any hindu outfits that they gave money and do this natak of allegations.

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  • prem, moodbidri

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Every individual has the right to convert to the religion, he wish to.
    But, forceful conversion is not acceptable.

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  • vinay, mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Why U Turn?
    That day you had given big lecture....What happened today? Bcoz it was done by your own community...

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  • gm, mlore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    About forceful conversion?

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  • prem, moodbidri

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Indian Talibani spotted !

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  • vinay, mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    What about you?
    Ab mirchi lagaa na?

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  • S.M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, Dubai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Dear vinay
    about "U Turn" then you should ask with Central Govt they has much experience in that word.
    Now do not use "your" "our" religious words. of course forcibly conversation is not acceptable for any Hindu/Muslim/Christian. religion
    I will explain
    there have two type of mentality.
    some people convert to other religion by love,money or others reason
    But some people studying other religious and then they will accept it by their own decision.
    whichever religious we follow but all religion teach us “way of life”

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  • vinay, mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    When you guys says hindu, then no problem. If i say 'you, your', then you have problem. Hindu is my religion and if someone speak something bad about Hinduism, i feel hurt.
    For your information, i visit church, dargah as well. I am devotee of Velankani too, even you can see her photo in our prayer room. Yes! I am proud to say that, I am Hindu.

    Regarding U turn, why I have to ask Central Govt? You guys are only making hue and cry. You guys have problem with BJP Govt. Why are you not asking dongi congi govt in Karnataka for thier Karma Kandas?

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  • MOHAMMED, SHIRUR

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Cent percent agreed with you Mr. Prem Moodbidre.

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  • vinay, mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Where is our donkey congi supporters?

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  • PINTO, Doha/Qatar

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Looking at the conversion business going on in India and the communal atmosphere it may create, I really opt for a strong Anti-conversion law. At the same time it has to ensure that the law is not misused by communal outfits to persecute the minorities on the pretext of false conversion cases.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    RIGHT TIME TO ENACT ANTI CONVERSION BILL... whoever indulge in this racket must be punished by the law of the land.

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  • Amin Bhoja, Patte / Riyadh

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Now the parliament will function quietly without any disturbance from the Opposition i.e The Regional Left Right or the centre Parties!!!.

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  • GANGARAM, MOODBIDRI

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    THIS IS MONEY CONVERSION AND NOT RELIGIOUS CONVERSION!!!

    AT LEAST POOR PEOPLE MAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF RELIGIOUS FANATICS!!

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  • MOHAMMED, SHIRUR

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Mr. Gngaram...Do you know these 70 people?..Whe you are in Moodbdri...how you can say that it is money conversion. Andhereme mat TEER chalaw bhayya.

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  • GANGARAM, MOODBIDRI

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    TOMORROW AGAIN GHAR VAPASI WITH EXTRA BENEFITS!!! THEN WHAT WE CAN CALL IT??
    CONVERSION SHOULD BE FROM HEART, IF THAT HAPPENS, THEY WILL NOT GO FOR GHAR VAPASI!!!

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  • Shivappa, Mangaluru

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Ban all mass conversions.
    Make conversions only after court / sub registrar approval.

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  • Krishna, karkala

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    No uproar in the Parliament.
    Why no one is protesting ?
    Did SP and Congress sponsor this conversion.

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  • ek, bejai

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    if some hindu outfits do this thing its 'ghar vapsi'
    when others does it is heinous crime
    this double standard is not good

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  • MOHAMMED, SHIRUR

    Thu, Dec 18 2014

    Mr. ek...Ghar wapsi is the forcible conversion. Ye log pariveer ke saffron color aur trishool ko darrke convert huwe hai. Here the name itself shows - India Hope Center -Yahan ye 70 log may be they accepted the Christianity.

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