Mangaluru: 'Do not need Gujarat model, let reservation continue till caste system exists'


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Mangaluru, Feb 15: "We do not need Gujarat model. We want only the model of B R Ambedkar's constitution, and we want food, clothing, and house. The reservation facility should be in existence as along as caste system remains. Towards fighting against communal forces, fascism, etc, we will be forming district level Samvidhana Suraksha Samitis (SSS)," said noted social worker, Jignesh Mewani.

He was addressing a student awareness rally and convention organized under the aegis of Campus Front of India at Town Hall here on Tuesday February 14.

Former chairman of Karnataka State Backward Classes Commission, C S Dwarakanath, who participated as the chief guest of the programme, felt that the people should build the society on the basis of principles taught by Ambedkar, Bhagat Singh, and Tipu Sultan. "Tipu Sultan was a great patriot. In the original copy of the constitution, we can find pictures of Jhansi Laxmi Bai and Tipu Sultan, in recognition of the fact of them being great patriots. Not only Dr Rajendra Prasad, Jawaharlal Nehru and Vallabh Bhai Patel, but even the founder of Jan Sangh, Shyamprasad Mukherjee, too had signed this copy," he stated. He however lamented the fact that the followers of Mukherjee are reluctant to accept this fact.

 

In his address, CFI national general secretary T Abdul Naseer said, "The country is witnessing atrocities every now and then due to which mothers have lost their children. This is due to the negligence of lawkeeping forces and improper investigation along with a corrupt system. There are several instance where justice is not being done. Today, protection of human rights is lacking. Now it is up to the students to come forward and fight for justice justice for parents who lost their children, be it Rohit Vemula or Najeeb.

"At present, Radhika Vemula and Nafeesa are seeking justice and fighting hard. We too need to extend our full-fledged support. It is our duty to support a fight for justice.

"Today, the system is such that if we raise our voice, automatically we get labeled as traitors or get killed. Govind Pansare, Dabholkar and Kalburgi were killed but the culprits are still roaming freely without any fear of law," he said.

National Confederation of Human Rights Organizations general secretary, Prof P Koya, inaugurated the awareness convention. Writer, Yogesh Master, social worker, Sunkanna Velpula, national secretary of National Women's Front, Lubna Minaz, Muhammed Tufail, Mustafa, Sajit, Shabana P and others were present.

The students took out a mega rally to the venue of the programme from Ambedkar Circle in the city before the beginning of the convention.

  

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  • Ubaid sarve, Khalideya

    Thu, Feb 16 2017

    Well done campus front fighting for justice
    Allah always with you ...

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  • Mohammed iqbal, Manglore

    Thu, Feb 16 2017

    Masah Allah good work............

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  • Shahadath, Dubai

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Good message and all need to know this

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  • IMRANN, Kaup

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Allahamdullila
    .Campus front should only fight for genuine social causes like this . Even having reservation almost govt jobs were occupied by the community who are less than three persant in society just because of effectively protecting the supremacy of that community .

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  • Mohammad Ali, Alain

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Good move..voice against communal government.

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  • Arfan Baikady, Dubai

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Well done campus from.... fight for justice. May Allah help you.

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  • iqbal, Abu dhabi

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Campus front of India is fighting for genuine social causes . Even having reservation almost govt jobs were occupied by the community who are less than three present in society just because of effectively protecting the supremacy of that community .

    (CFI) Student Organization united and loud their vigil stand against injustice happening in College campus for Parents of Students who lost their children be it Rohit Vemula or Najeeb or Soujanya and Akshatha.

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  • Shetty, Mangalore

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Illegal foreign funding to thousands of anti-national NGOs have been cut....Now they are desperate. They cannot protest directly ,so use some proxies to have some non-sense, time pass protests like these.........No logic, no reason......only one agenda "hate Modi"........Lage raho...

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  • Richard, Shirva/Dubai

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    its true...
    need majorities to be united to bring justice to poor irrespective to caste n creed

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  • Manu, Surathkal

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    If we give Reservation to people, it should be given one person from one family. Now due to caste based Reservation, all the family members getting Govt Job due to this who is economically back ward will stay back ward only.

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  • Lynette Barboza, Falnir, Mangaluru

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor."_ Desmond Tutu

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  • nazeer husain, jeddah KSA

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    MAASHAH ALLAH. Campus front should only fight for genuine social causes like this . Even having reservation almost govt jobs were occupied by the community who are less than three persant in society just because of effectively protecting the supremacy of that community . Reservation must be continued to protect social equality .

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  • Dinesh, Dubai

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Message is clear this people trying to keep caste system alive.. joke is tippu sulthan was freedom fighter...Portuguese also fought against british.. are you ready to say they are freedom fighter..?

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  • Richard, Shirva/Dubai

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    People need reservation based on economic condition of people irrespective of caste and creed for development of nation in right direction and to curb poverty....on dais scholars sold themselves for their tongue twist!!...no problem sometimes good government will realise peoples agony..Jai Hind

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  • readerwriter007, pune

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    at least this showed the people who are evils for the society. Still want to live under the banner of caste , religion, reservation... etc. This caste based reservation is a disease for the society and need to be erased from the country. Problem is that there is a national party ( no more ) is surviving just because of their caste based voting and they are trying their best to keep these religion , caste based reservations which is a key factor for their vote bank.... at least with this dynamic Prime Minister we hope we will be eradicated from this reservation disease.

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  • Vijay B, Kudla

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    The creamiest layer of the lot are in politics. Dalits, for example, have served as our parliament’s speaker, as home minister, as the country's President, as the Chief Justice of India, etc. Most powerful of all is Mayawati, the former chief minister of Uttar Pradesh state, who heads the Bahujan Samaj Party. She has done much to promote symbols of Dalit strength, often in the form of towering statues of elephants, her party symbol, or of herself wielding a handbag. Yet her success is on the back of electoral clout, not quotas and reservations.

    Is there any proof that political reservations bring benefits? Finding any is desperately difficult, since few have ever bothered to assess the impact of India’s affirmative-action policies over the decades.

    One 2010 study of 16 of India’s biggest states did look at the effect on poverty in backward groups of their getting quotas of representatives in electoral politics, from 1960 to 2000. The report’s authors say theirs is the only study ever to ask how an affirmative -action policy, of any sort, has affected poverty in India. Their conclusion: for “scheduled tribes”, who are conveniently crowded near one another on electoral maps, is that greater political clout has indeed led to a small drop in poverty. But for the “scheduled castes”, by contrast, greater political clout has made absolutely no difference at all.

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  • Vijay B, Kudla

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Nor is any thought given to missed opportunity. Beyond an obsession with quotas, and making untouchability illegal, India’s rulers have done nothing to address ongoing social repression by caste. Village councils, for example in Haryana, in effect outlaw marriages between different castes, or within certain sub-caste groups. The practice of “honour” killings of youngsters who marry against caste rules remains dismally prevalent. Police and politicians show little interest in prosecuting those responsible.

    Nor does it help that social mobility of all sorts has been slow in India, mostly because it has remained poor and predominantly rural for so long due to decades of wrongheaded economic policies. For a Dalit peasant or labourer the reservation policy is unlikely to make much difference; getting a job in a factory or a call centre would transform his life.

    A tiny minority has prospered, with an estimated 1% of the two “scheduled” groups falling into the highest wealth bracket (calculated as four times above the poverty line), according to a recent study of income data by caste. Yet this in turn creates anxiety. If a tiny set flourishes within a broadly disadvantaged group, should it continue to enjoy privileges and quotas from the state?

    The Supreme Court, addressing the OBCs in particular, says no. It defined the concept of a “creamy layer” of the wealthiest and most privileged among the OBCs, saying they must now be excluded from quotas. The result: debates flare not only over which backward groups deserve privileges, but over whom within the groups should then be excluded. The result, increasingly, will be a mess.

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  • Vijay B, Kudla

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Wider consequences may be within education. Quotas and special scholarships for backward groups were first established in the 1920s. For secondary schooling state funds help to encourage more Dalit and tribal children into classrooms; the effect of setting aside special places in colleges and university is to lower the marks needed by Dalit and other backward applicants.

    That causes resentment among general applicants, who vie for extremely competitive spots in medical, business and other colleges. But the policy probably does help to propel more Dalits and others to study, as shown in steadily improving rates of literacy and higher qualifications achieved by the groups. A 2009 study found roughly one-in-15 graduates were Dalits, and one-in-ten secondary students, well up on previous decades. Yet that is still too few, as they continue to lag other groups.

    Nor is it possible to know just why the numbers have risen. A general programme to build schools and provide a free, mid-day meal for all pupils, irrespective of caste, probably does even more to help the backward groups. And broad economic changes, such as urbanisation or the use of English, almost certainly do more to boost chances for Dalits and others.

    The overall effects therefore are probably limited, and certainly hard to judge. Pratap Bhanu Mehta, an academic at the Centre for Policy Research in Delhi, favours affirmative action but concludes that a policy focused on distribution of limited state resources is bound to fail. “The current system is not about equal opportunity, it is about distributing the spoils of state power strictly according to caste, thus perpetuating it”, he says.

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  • Vijay B, Kudla

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    The various quotas have partly achieved their most basic tasks. In public jobs members of backward groups claim more posts than of old. Dalits had just 1.6% of the most senior (“Group A”) civil servant positions in 1965, for example. That rose to 11.5% by 2011, not far off the 16% or so of the general population that Dalits represent. The share is higher for more junior posts.

    Judging a broader impact is harder. Very few Indians have formal jobs, let alone government ones. “The [jobs] policy only matters for perhaps 2% of the Indian work force”, points out Harsh Shrivastava of the World Development Forum, a think-tank in Delhi. Other than in tweaking quotas (to reflect the local size of a “scheduled” population) states have never experimented, nor competed, to find out whether their jobs policies have any wider, beneficial impact.

    Worse, the policy has probably helped to make India’s bureaucracy increasingly rotten and it was already one of the country’s greater burdens. An obsession with making the ranks of public servants representative, not capable, makes it too hard to sack dysfunctional or corrupt bureaucrats. Nor will this improve. In December 2012, our parliament passed a bill ordering that bureaucrats be promoted not on merit alone, but to lift the backward castes faster.

    Private firms are not directly affected, but a few take voluntary measures. The biggest of all, the Tata conglomerate, which employs over 350,000, does in-house surveys to assess its Dalit and tribal work force. Tata gives incentives, setting lower requirements for exam marks, for Dalit and tribal job applicants. Most generally, however, formal jobs in tech and outsourcing firms, for example, are valued in part because they are caste-blind.

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  • Vijay B, Kudla

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    INDIA’S experiment with the so-called 'affirmative action' is the world’s oldest. Known as “reservation” policy it is an elaborate quota system for public jobs, places in publicly funded universities and colleges and in most elected assemblies. These are filled by members of designated, disadvantaged groups.

    There were initially two main intended beneficiaries. The “Scheduled Tribes”, many of whom lived in remote or forested corners and members of the “Scheduled Castes”, who were shunned by other Hindus as polluted for their labours, which included the clearing of human and other waste, and who remained generally poor and discriminated against.s

    India’s constitution of 1950 enshrined the idea of discrimination as a means to help both “scheduled” groups, which was to build on limited quotas for jobs and education that were used in parts of British-run India from the 1920s. It proposed that the policy exist for a decade to see what progress would be made, but without spelling out how to measure it. The provision has been renewed without fuss every decade since.

    Rather than debate whether the practices help, politicians focus on extending them to new blocks of voters. By the late 1980s, after a commission of inquiry, lowly but non-“scheduled” Hindu castes, known collectively as the OBCs for “Other Backward Classes”, some 27% of the population, also got quotas. The result: in individual states such as Tamil Nadu or within the north-east, where backward populations predominate, over 70 - 80% of government jobs are set aside in quotas, despite a Supreme Court ruling that 50% ought to be the maximum.

    Muslims want quotas too, but lack political clout to force them. Women have had a hand up in the political realm: a third of all seats in local elected bodies are reserved for them, after a 1993 constitutional amendment. A bill, which is currently in cold storage, would see it applied it in the national parliament too.

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  • Anand, Karkala

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Caste based discrimination is a disease, caste based reservation is a medicine. As soon as the disease is cured, there will be no need for remedies.

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  • S.M. Nawaz Kukkikatte, Dubai

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Very nice to see Campus Front Of India (CFI) Student Organization united and loud their vigil stand against injustice happening in College campus for Parents of Students who lost their children be it Rohit Vemula or Najeeb.

    Political forces utilizing Communal propaganda through ABVP in college campus and making problem in religious matter. We need to throw out ABVP "Manu Smriti" and make strong foundation in "B R Ambedkar's constitution" through CFI.

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  • Deekshith, kalladka

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    So.. Vemula, najeeb maathra thojuni atha nikleg ? ABVP studentsna jeeva pothina thojuja ?
    Just say.. your agenda is hate towards modi and Right wings !

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  • Rafiadkar, Auh

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Absolutely superb rally by campus front hats off them , if we still shut our mouth they will gonna do all over India as a Gujarat which is happened in 2002. All the backward community and minorities should be united with one slogan to shut down their hidden agenda.

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  • Nithya, Mangalore

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Only EBC as Jossey sir said.

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  • Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    We are still behind Japan, US,Germany,China( despite having man power,natural resource) because of this bloody Reservation Policy..This policy killed India since it was introduced...Intention is good, but execution is very bad..If you keep Reservation, then Deserved People leave for foreign countries..Those who get 45 marks and complete degree become teacher of 300 students in Schools under Reservation policy...Rest you can imagine..This is what happened in our country.. I request Govt of India to ban or remove this Reservation policy immediately..It is a cancer to country..We need surgery...It helps only lazy people and Politicians..

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    We only need EBC (Economic Backward Class) ...

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  • JOY CASTELINO, MOODUBELLE/DUBAI

    Wed, Feb 15 2017

    Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai, we need " Deserved Class" not " Reserved Class".

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