Godwin D'Souza, Mangalore/Kuwait

Perfect answer by Sunil farius brisbane

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Lovjes, Bangalore

Whenever incidents of this sort occur, people fall generally into two groups. One for and the other against the individual. Lot of discussion takes place and triggers even more. Some are inspired, others provoked, still others angry, some even outrageous.There are others who sympathise. There are also some who condemn while others choose to be silent spectators.

A big question to humanity's conscience. Moral issues at stake. Issues of ill-fame, scandal, shame,etc.

Sanyasis are no longer held in respect as before.Worldly pleasures have crept in religious ashrams. There are only people there from our own families. No angels there!People with flesh and blood. Prone to err just like us.

In the final analysis, what do the Catholics want? Celibate priests or married priests? or leaders from among them who can lead a local church?

The Church and Catholics must have the courage to go back to their age old practice and anoint lay persons as ministers of the word and sacraments.

Perhaps our lay leaders can do much better with witness of their lives and will be more effective. Time alone will prove that the ultimate evangelizers are the lay leaders who have managed the Church down the centuries and will do so more effectively in the years to come.

"To err is human,to rise is divine" Forgive the one who's erred and give him a chance to rise.

As a community we must move on from here with lessons learnt and think more seriously about the future of our Church.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur,Puttur/Mangalore

To all the Christians: Neither Jesus Christ nor St. Paul preached denominations. Martin Luther protested the power of the church and separated. Now we are witnessing within the Protestants several denominations cropped up and still denominations are growing only because of lust, money and power pulling the people from one denomination to another. Do we need misinterpreting/misinterpretations’ to be taught from the One and the Only Holy Bible?

Any disputed matter crops up should be solved amicably within the church and not creating hell out of little-mettle mistakes. The vengeance, anger, selfishness were all grown for the lust of money and power. Each person should ask themselves that Jesus says that whosoever has seen a women I quote Matthew 4: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Unqoute. Jesus knows each and everyone and the truth. I quote. John 8: 32. And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Unquote. The church is our police station and the head of the church is our judge.

Jesus says do not judge anyone so that your Heavenly Father also will not judge you. Prayers are most important to the head of the church and people. What a shame to our people and head of the church handing over to police those who have protested/vandalized. Forgiveness is most important. How many times? 70 times 7 Matthew 18:22 and Amen.

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Ozee, Bellore, Dubai

Dear Priests and Nuns, who are reading these comments, please note that there are many here who do not want to comment but crying within and praying for all those who have attacked you with very harsh words. Be assured that many are praying for you to serve The Lord with pure heart. Herbert Menezes’s comments in this article say the same and many would appreciate those comments which are true and proven.

When things go wrong, there are many come up with stones in their hand. When things go right and beneficial to many, there are very few who come forward and thank you because they all think that it is your ‘duty’ which is very sad to hear. But I salute your service and commitment on behalf of many who are silently reading these comments and praying for you especially during our Holy Rosary…. God bless us all…

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Herbert Joseph Menezes, Barkur

CRITICISM OF PRIESTS
Our Lord's revelations to Mutter Vogel

"One should NEVER attack a priest, even when he's in error, rather one should pray and do penance that I'll grant him My grace again. He alone fully represents Me, even when he doesn't live after My example!" (page 29, Mutter Vogel's Worldwide Love, St. Grignion Publishing House, Altoting, South Germany (29. 6. 1929)

When a Priest falls we should extend him a helping hand THROUGH PRAYER AND NOT THROUGH ATTACKS! I myself will be his judge, NO ONE BUT I!" "Whoever voices judgment over a priest has voiced it over me child, never let a Priest be attacked, take up his defense." (Feast of Christ the King 1937) "Child, Never judge your confessor, rather pray much for him and offer every Thursday, through the hands of My blessed Mother, Holy Communion (for Him) (18.6. 1939) "Never again accept an out-of-the-way word about a Priest, and speak no unkind word (about them) EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE! Every Priest is My Vicar and My heart will be sickened and insulted because of it! If you hear a judgment (against a Priest) pray a Hail Mary." (28. 6. 1939)

"If you see a Priest who celebrates the Holy Mass unworthily then say nothing about him, rather tell it to Me alone! I stand beside Him on the altar!" "Oh pray much for my priests, that they'll love purity above all, that they'll celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with pure hands and heart. Mary, Queen of the Clergy, pray for them.

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O. Pinto, Muscat

I agree with the comments of Mr.Sunil Farias. We need to have the knowledge of scriptures and they explain plainly every problem that we encounter in our lives. I would like to add that the Bible says in ITim.4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy having their conscience seared with a hot iron 4:3 forbidding to marry,.When the veil of the temple was torn the Leviticus priestly ministry was over and we see in 1 Peter 2:9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

So all people of the world who are followers of Christ are Royal Priests and there is no need to become self styled priests without marrying. Adam and Eve were created for the purpose of marriage. The two ordinances that were instituted in the garden of Eden were: Marriage and Sabbath.
All followers of Christ have a Gospel commission. It is not for any self styled people. Look in Matt.28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.
Adultery is sin. Keep God's Commandments and live. Exod.20:2-17

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Lovjes, Bangalore

Well said, Prof. J. Lancy D'Souza that it is wise to allow the Priests and Nuns to get married, if they desired so. But why do you say that they should not be allowed to preach the word of God? Perhaps you consider that it's the prerogative of celibates! You are right in a way because we are taught to think like this.

But the truth of the matter (which perhaps the Church and some Catholics do not want to accept) is that the tradition of the Church was to have only married clergy. Celibacy was imposed only in 11th century. There were no priests in the church when it started at Antioch. There were only “followers of the way”, disciples of Christ who were committed to carry on His mission.

The important question that Catholics must come to terms is: Do we need celibate priests to carry out the work of evangelization and taking care of the flock of Christ? Can we not entrust this work to our own people, leaders among us who are gifted by God, married persons who lead exemplary lives, with much sacrifice and hardships? After all, both priests and lay leaders are only human beings. Priests as we have them today are from our own families. Do we accept them only because they are celibates? Do they cease to be human? No. Will they cease to work for Christ if they are married? Certainly not! Do we have the courage to do some free sincere thinking that emerges from the community? Is there a need make celibacy a sine-qua-non for priesthood?

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Nagesh Nayak,

 being this a public website, you are welcome to watch us exchanging opinions. We are members of 'public', not a panel of judges.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Don (Mangaloer/Canada),

None of us is asking to punish the priest (say.. to be tried in the court) it can happen if the woman involved accused the priest to have raped her. What we are asking is that he has broken the wow of celibacy hence he is not fit to continue as a priest. How can people seek spiritual advice from a priest who isn't true to his profession ?

As for your reminding us what Jesus said about a sinner, Jesus also said to show left cheek if you were hit on the left. Are you suggesting that we call those people to break our remaining churches too ???

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nagesh nayaK, bangalore

hi,manish, canada, AROGYA DAS MADE A MISTAKE & PUNISHABLE. WHY FORGIVE? ALREADY 'N' OF CASES ARE UNNOTICED & UNDISCLOSED . ALL CASES WILL GET FURTHER BOOST IF YOU FORGIVE.

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Don, Mangalore/Canada

"Let those who have not sinned cast the first stone" - Jesus Christ.

If what is alleged has been proven then we have persons in authority that would take action irrespective of his or her status.

Let us not forget that for hundreds of years overwhelming majorities of religious around the world have worked tirelessly and selflessly in the establishing and spreading of education. Hence, if there is a rotten apple let us learn to forgive and move on. Let us not judge lest we get judged.

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manish, canada

Religion has nothing to do with a persons sin whether it is a priest, a swami or a maulvi. all a human beings and they do make mistakes. so forgive them

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leon, kemman/dhahran

We mangaloreans are so compassionate people. We forgave the erred priest and some of us supported him at Mulky . Whole world should follow this .

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur,Puttur/Mangalore

Dear Mr. Sunil.Farias, Brisbane & Lydia Lobo Kadri Let me clarify as per my perception: Jesus was, is and who will come again is preparing eunuchs for the kingdom of God & the marriage of the lamb will take place (The marriage of the lamb means after Jesus comes again He will not marry but is preparing the eunuchs (the one who didn’t touch women)to reign in with Him for 1000 years which is also called millinuium period). In the gospel, Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it”. The Catholic Church and the Trinity Pentecostal Mission, both denominations r same in principles. But I find in TPM more purity, sanctity, clarity and they do not take medicine only read the holy bible & pray earnestly to Jesus & they are cured who have faith homes and we Catholics have churches. St Paul tells us in another context that I quote Ephesians chapter 4 11. And he gave some, apostles and some, prophets and some, evangelists and some, pastors and teachers 12. For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

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Prescilla Menezes, Belman/NewZealand.

Good job Mr. Sunil Farias. I think couple of them who commented on this message on the grounds of christians and protestents needs to read your comment especially Prof. J. Lancy Dsouza. It is good to have some knowledge about the Bible too Prof. along with other worldly knowledge.

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Dev, Mangalore

Jaimini PB- for your info-Rajneesh was a ordinary clerk in an office. He was able to attract more people with his oratory skill & open invitation not to suppress one's needs which will lead to all the evils, attracted more foreigners as they were used to promiscuos life style of Western countries, which was barred by their religions.

Sai Baba has stopped all his magic tricks,as age has made his movements slow. He was caught in a tape removing concealed gold chain under a platter while honouring our then President Shankar Dayal Sharma. Veer Sanghvi had exposed it time & again on TV.

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Dave, Mangalore

Wheteher we need priests or not is to be left to us alone. If u follow Bible only then read what Jesus commanded his desciples after his resurrection, before his ascension to heaven.To lead his flock he appointed or annointed them with Holy Spirit descending on them,Peter was his successor among them. Even now we need more priests than at that time as the modern world can hinder more, one's progress towards the promissed place for believers.

Church brought Bible into existence than Bible bringing the church into existence,Jesus brought the Church into existence & Church brought the Bible as we know into existence many many years after Jesus's ascension. One without the other is insignificant & would lose its prominence.

For the same reasons like all & sundry trying to intrepret Bible their own way we need a Church & Priests to lead us in the right way. If catholic church changes its rules & permits its priests to marry then that has to be accepted as change is always better than stagnation which would stink with time. To pray with Jesus we don't need a priest, that doesn't mean priests are redundant. U can sit for exams without a teacher's teaching, but how many can succeed by this way- only a few. We need all to pass & attain eligibility to enter the Kingdom of Heaven-Thru Right Teachers who represent Jesus.

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ARCHIBALD QUADROS, BBANGALORE/KUNDAPUR

Poor Adam was tempted by Cat Walking Eve, in return he had to bear the brunt, no one blamed Eve. What a justice? Is it the effect of 33% reservation?

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Prof. J. Lancy D'Souza, Anjelore

The Priests and Nuns committing adultry is nothing new. In America there were so many instances where the Church had to pay a huge lumsum of money to the children on whom the attrocities were committed by the Parish Priests. In India there were so many instances where the Priests and Nuns have fallen in love with the Laypersons and thus dejected their seminary, nunnery, priesthood etc and are leading normal married life. These people are having more than 3 to 4 children.

So, coming to the point, is it not wise to let the Priests and Nuns to allow them to get married, if they desired so - but they should not continue to preach and be in the priesthood or continue as Nuns. So that they all will get a fair chance to Remain or Leave the Seminary/Nunnery. Otherwise, there is no difference between Christians and Protestants, as Protestant priests are having wife and children and still they are Bishops, Cardinals, Parish Priests etc. Their wife's and daughters proudly call them as My Dad is a Parish Priest.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Rochelle,

I, to some extent only, agree with you that one cannot take a wow of matrimony as well as priesthood. On the other hand, why then when erred, the clergy asserts or common people sympathize 'we/they too are human'?? A request to allow marriage to priestly members is not new, it has been troubling the Vatican Church since very very long.

We must either come out with a solution to stop them abusing children or allow them normal sexual activities. May I say, the abuse is not only in Europe within the seminaries in India instances have been happening of similar nature. I have asked a priest on his face 'why then the farce of CHASTITY that you are preaching us innocent parishioners' ?

There must be some neutral balance if this imposed celibacy is too harsh on them. I don't say I am cheated by 'preaching something but doing something else', I am perfectly happy with the faithfulness that must come from both the spouses I owe to the Church having learnt such a beautiful principle. Unlike how the Church in earlier era captivated innocent people, we are an educated lot now, who have studied evolution theory besides the mystery of the Holy Trinity but we keep both at their place with equal respect and reverence.

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Antony Pereira, Mangalore

Mercifull Lord have mercy on us and on our annointed priests. This is only a tip of ice burg. There will be lot of Fr Arogyadas..Fr Ananorgyadas..Fr Devads...and sanyacinies here and there exposed or unexposed to the media. Now the time has come to set up a special committee under the leadership of the Bishop to handle incidents like this reported and unreported to prevent repeated incidents among the Christian Priests & Nuns.

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Sunil.Farias, Brisbane

Miss Lydia......... Bible says, My people will perish because of lack of Knowledge. Knowledge comes from the word of God which is the Bible.
Jesus said its better to marry than to burn...
Bible clearly says a bishop should be a man of one wife and should know how to run a family because one wo cant run a family cant run a church!
Jesus never said the people who serve God should abstain from marriage!
Christians dont need priests! It was in the old covenant, where people were not eligible to access the house of God, so a priest was there to take our sinners offerings.
When Jesus sacrificed his blood through his life as an atonement for the sins of the world, the veil of the temple was torn so that everyone can access the holy place without a priest. Paul says in Ephesians Ch 4 vs 11, very clearly the five fold ministries needed to run the church which includes Apostle, Prophets, Pastors, Evangelists and Teachers.
God has given a free will to choose through Jesus, so there are no mandatory rules, other than the commandments.
I think you should open your Bible rather the dust and bookworms settle in it beside the
altar. Instead of protesting against the priests, go and ask the church to follow the teachings of Jesus through his word.
Church exists because of Bible and Bible doesn't exists because of Church. Everyone is called to serve God, So if you can marry and enjoy sexuality, how can you say a priest who is lead by Blind, abstain from marriage!

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Rochelle Lobo, Bangalore

Miss/Mrs....Lydia..

Your views are like...love your husband plus if you like your neighbours husband then keep going...Hope its not too harsh..

In Catholic church its very clear that if at anytime you do not or can't commit to the service of the lord, he or she can give up being a priest or a nun. So whats the problem in not giving up the post.

Society is not able to digest these type of situations, and people like me and you keep brooding about these things and loose faith and also make others loose faith in our own system.

Its not poverty which forces people to join the seminary. Its the force within the house which unwillingly forces a person to become part of the Godly service system and later see these similar situations.

Since lately we see so many problems within the church where people fight with there own priests to have services in their own languages. So unless we fix this similar issues and become one...we cannot come to a conclusion if the priest in the above article was wrong. Let the Bishop take the decision.

Jai Ho.

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NITHIN, mangalore

shahnawaz kukkikattte, dubai/udipi..
ONE SIDE YOU ARE GIVING LECTURE ABOUT PEACE...IN ANOTHER SIDE YOU ARE SUPPORTING INDIRECTLY RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST & TERRORISTS BY GIVING EXAMPLE OF AYODYA & GODRA ISSUE...AS YOU SAID "God is all forgiving and merciful." THEN LEAVE EACH N EVERY MATTER TO GOD....HE WILL TAKE CARE NO?????

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Fernandes Francis, Mangalore / UAE

Dear Ronald D. Machado, Udayavara, Sharjah,
Your comments made me 100 % right. The teacher who advised should be given credit for boldness.
Dukra mas is the stuff makes these Priest all problem . They don't work hard to burn thier fat.

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joel,dubai, mlore

Really a bad thing to hear.But good issue to change and concentration from Swami Nithyanand.

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Valerian Menezes, Kota

Some of our laity are taking law into their own hands because of some personal grudge against the clergy. Even if the priest is at fault, there is an authority to punish him. However, the punishment should base on facts. Just because someone has grudge against a priest he need not be punished. The people taking law into their hands should be punished irrespective of their caste or religion or which side he belongs to.

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William, Bangalore

Dear readers,
Please know the real story. This episode was conspired to settle scores with the priest and tarnish his image. The priest had taken a tough rightful action against three youths who were creating nuisance in the church premises and had them arrested when they assaulted him over an issue.

The disgruntled parishners in fact had gathered to protest against the arrest of the youth and wanted to remove the parish priest and tarnish him image alleging his sexual misconduct. It is unfortunate that the media plays into sensationalism without in fact giving the real side of the story.

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J Noronha, Canada

Our prayers are falling short for the priests'. Rather that accusing and jumping into conclusion what is right and wrong. If we are real Christians (followers of Jesus Christ) we would pray and let the Lord almighty judge. We are so busy in our day to day life and have forgotten the power and importance of prayers in our life. They are humans and they have temptations as well like so many married couples who falter. We do not go and protest in front of their houses? Do we? We end up saying that’s their family matter we do not need to intervene. So why are we taking law into our hands when it comes to the priest – if there is a real problem why not approach the Archbishop or the Bishop of the parish? ___________________________________
A PRAYER FOR PRIESTS (By the late John J Cardinal Carberry)
Keep them I pray Thee, dearest Lord. Keep them, for they are Thine.
The priests whose lives burn out before Thy consecrated shrine.
Keep them, for they are in the world, Though from the world apart.
When earthly pleasures tempt, allure Shelter them in Thy heart.
Keep them and comfort them in hours Of loneliness and pain,
When all their life of sacrifice
For souls seems but in vain.
Keep them and remember, Lord,
they have no one but Thee.
Yet, they have only human hearts,
With human frailty.
Keep them as spotless as the Host,
That daily they caress Their every thought and word and deed, Deign, dearest Lord, to bless.
God bless us all!

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Jerry Rasquinha, Mangalore

I agree with Mr.George Boromeo,Angelore. There should be a vigilance cell to deal with erring priests and keep the scandalous news within the confines of the concerned community. The Church Authorities should have considered this after the break out of Mulky incident. Another solution is, priests those who would like to live a life outside the restrictions of vows should relinquish their position, resign and live an ordinary life. Cheating God and the parishioners is a heinous crime.

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shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udipi

Dear readers, I am not referring here to the "satanic verses" of Rushdie. I mean, satan (devil) who is enemy of God's commandments and enemy of His faithfuls must have acted by whispering into the hearts of this priest and by ill conceiving the intention of having sex. As you all know Satan tries his best to deviate the faithfuls from the true path and forces them to indulge in activites that displeases God but pleases him (satan).

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V. Thomas, Bahrain

Jaimini P.B., fitting reply to Julius Goa. I think next time you too can do some 'seva' to these brilliant swamis because they have plenty of wealth and  Europeans and Politicians follow them.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

I agree with Mr. Thomas Pascal Andrade. What is wrong in allowing Catholic Priests marry ? Wow of chastity has gone with the wind, poverty does not exist anymore. How many parishes in Mangalore city are poor ? Allowing them to have a family will make the society happier.

The laws of the Church are man made - not divine. We must join together and call for changes.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur,Puttur/Mangalore

Dear JAMEEL , Mangalore/Qatar, If Janet Xavier’s comment is wonderful Questions to both of you and Provide the answer: Jesus was saying in the Gospel. John 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well for so I am”. John 1:1-4In the beginning was the word and the word was God and the word became flesh. Revelations to John 1:11 I am the Alfa and Omega.

The first and the last John 10:30 I and my Father are one. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Prophet Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 41:4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last I am he. Presently this is enough for you. kindly explain.

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Sudhir, Mangalore

Whats wrong in Father wants become a real Father????

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Thomas Pascal Andrade, Valencia / Toronto

This case is not different from the recent case involving the famous Vivekananda Swamy. Only difference is that, they did not shoot his video. Also, this is not the first time a Catholic priest having illicit relationship and I don’t think it would be the last case. I have heard few such cases but without proof one cannot blame any person. In the US alone, many Churches are gone bankrupt due to the reason that they had to pay heavy compensation to many child victims who were sexually molested by some priests. The Vatican is struggling to address these burgeoning sex abuse scandals across Europe too.


The best solution for this is allowing the priests to marry. There is no hard and fast rule in the Bible that the priests should not marry, then why are they deprived of their rights? When humans add or change God’s rules, this kind of mistakes are bound to happen.

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rohan, Mulki

There are so many cases of Fathers and Nuns running away so why make a big issue about this let Fr Arogyadas follow his heart

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Imran , Kaup/Dubai

Mr.Shanwaz Kukikkatte : I dont knw why u talking like Gandhi ? Hope u knw In the present senerio Ghandigiri not wrks

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Judith L, Mumbai

99% of christians donot falter when opposing to something which is evil eventhough if the facts are harsh. It is otherwise for few of the majority commnunity.

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Akashay , Mangalore / US

Well said munna i missed this in my message , these illiterates dont know that Tamilians have names just like hindus even in north india there are christians who use names are like hindus

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JAMEEL , Mangalore/Qatar

Dear Janet Xavier, Dubai, I appreciate your comments. May the Almighty guide you to the truth. each and every action of every creature is answerable. always remember "LIFE IS A QUESTION PAPER AND LIVING IS AN ANSWER SHEET"

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Munna, Dubai, Udupi

ASHOK : this priest names... they are not converted, there are tamil priest.

Before pointing to there name.. look in to your name pls.

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Navin Avil, Mangalore

When we call them "father" they deserve to be a father for all of us!! lucky are those who could really be his "son" it depends on the circumstances, after all we are all humenbeing. If sex is banned for preist, then the first criteria for any person who wants to be so is by having a medical check up and ensure things doesnt go the way it shouldnt.

By the way Shahnawaz Kukkikkatte, do you speak based on some ideology or as they way it does after every meal, cos you tend to contradict ur own words many a times are you sleeping !! and a best way out is to press hard the key words on daiji! What appreciable here is the courgae that daiji shown to go air with the news.

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Antony DS, Mangalore / Dubai

"This father must have been a victim of satanic verses" - what do you mean by this. Is the priest reading those verses and fallen for them. If these verses are revealed to the priest, then this priest is a historic man. Otherwise, he must have got hold of Satanic Verses from Salman Rushdie. Your comments, repent, merciful, is for all humans, but let the allegations proved against the priest. nevertheless, i think, we humans should bow down before Almighty, repent our sins and ask for forgiveness from Merciful Lord.

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Kishore, Udupi/Dubai

Jacintha, Mangalore Well said. I am requesting my Hindu brotherrs & sisters please don't comment anyting wrong. Last week Christains brothers & sisters made fun of our Swamijis & religion. Now Father Das gave good answer to them. God is great.

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Thomas Valder, Bahrain

Roshan Mangalore, I agree with you. It does hurts when our own people go astray, because we love our people. By the way, I have never read any comments from 'our' people against any 'other' religion as 'we' always comment sensibly and consider/respect all religions as good. Nice to hear that you are a Indian riped apple in Indian made basket. See to it that it doesn't over ripe.

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Sourya Prakasha, PERMUDE

Excellent Comments Mr.Ronald D. Machado, Udayavara, Sharjah.

All human beings should allowed to get married opposit sex. If its Swami or Preist. If human goes aginst nature the result will be like Yesterday Nityananda Swami, today Fr Arogyadas or Tommorrow Maulana Mufti Sab.

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M.Mathias, Mangalore

Please think, each and evey person have right to marry in this world as per the nature. As per nature not marrying is wrong. Many rules are made by people which is against the nature. At the begining of the christanity popes,bishops and priests are married. And also human body intakes both veg & non-veg items but some people are deviding as veg & non-vegetarian.

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Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

Dear Julius Goa..I oppose your statement that OUR PRIESTS ARE NOT ILLITERATE LIKE SWAMI. Do you know that Nityananda Swami is a Mechanical Engineer ? Do you know that he takes Rs.10 Lakhs for 3 hrs speech which were attended by big Industrialists and foreigners ? Do you know that Swami who built beautiful pond in his Ashram and charging Rs.1000/- for bath .

He is extra brilliant man.Do you know that SEX GURU Acharya Rajneesh had 66 Rolls Royce ? His followers were Doctors,Lawyers,Industrilaists,Hollywood Actors/actress from USA,UK etc.. Had he been illiterate ,could he have got so many followers ? I think only Sai Baba didn't complete 10th Std.,but President and Prime Minister of India are still visiting him.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

The topic of this news is a Christian priest betraying his wow of celibacy. Nobody defended the priest's action but apparently exhibition of your patriotism a bit too much here. You have not uttered a word when the statue of Mahatma Gandhi was garlanded with footwear nor when somebody got arrested for doing that. For the time-being admit that you are not a Christian and hereafter stop quizzing me by asking me to elaborate what I meant by 'we'. As far as your conversion problem persists, I will ask you when a topic comes up about foreigners coming to India seeking divinity in Hinduism (perhaps Kumbh-Mela), let us see how you address the issue then.

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Roshan, Mangalore

I am a pure Indian riped apple in Indian made basket. By the way it hurts when our own people do things which are not acceptable by all.Hence we should be cautious while commenting other religions.

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Thomas Valder, Bahrain

Roshan Mangalore, are you day dreaming ? Where did you get the news that the protest against 'erring' Priest is due to conversion ? How do you know Priests get funds from Western countries ? Do you think Priests and Nuns serve the down troden and destitutes of any religion on your generosity ? Come on Roshan, do not accuse anyone by hearing rumours of your neighbor.

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Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

Roshan your comments are not related to the issue and absurd by bringing conversion point unnecessarily.   Either abstain from giving irrelevant, sarcastic comments and your comments concludes that you have vengeance against this religion and the priests. Also gives the understanding that u does belong this Christian community.

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ASHOK, Udupi/Dubai

Fr Jayanathan, Fr. Arogyadas. Look at the names. All these fathers are converted christans.

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shahnawaz kukkikattte, dubai/udipi

The tenets of christianity stands for peace and forgiveness. Please forgive this father. Clergies are soft targets for satans hand works. This father must have been a victim of satanic verses. Let the father repent to God with all his sincerity and let him not repeat the sin/mistake he has made. God is all forgiving and merciful. Lets not blow it out of proportion and give an opportunity to the opportunists to fish in the trouble water. Please maintain the decorum and dignity of church and the religion. Think by head and not by heart.

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Jostin, Kolalgiri/ Dubai

Great, Instead of being a father he can get married and be happy with his wife n children.

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Mohd. Haneef, m'lore, KSA

ALL OF ALL PROPHET LIKE ISSA(AS),MOOSA(AS), MUHAMMAD(SWS) A final messanger of god said that GOD is one. Every one shud submit a will to 'ALLAH'

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Simon Francis , Bangalore

Another Nithyananda swamy in the Catholic Christian nest.Though this year is dedicated to Catholic Priests and people are praying for them,but what do these priests are doing? Waste of praying for the Priests!!It is the time for them to come out from the priesthood and get marry whomsoever they want instead making bad name to the sanctity of the Priest.

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Lavina , Mangalore

Before bringing the issue to the street, please inform the same to Bishop/Archbishop. If no action has been taken, then start the agitation. Jesus said 'Listen, what the priests says but do not do/follow what they are doing'. Almighty takes the account of all sinners.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Roshan,

Where did conversion come up in this topic ?

Your comments on different topics are observed by various members and it appears that you are either not a Christian or are a bad apple in the basket. Stop pretending and be of use to the community being within it or withdraw if you disagree.

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Navven John, Vienna Austria

I am really sorry to hear of the episode and the easy condemnation. Before we judge let us see which group is accusing the priest since language issues are strong in bangalore and it is easy to through accusation.

Secondly the easy blame on priests and nuns is money and sex which they cant challenge easily.

Thirdly we easily throw stones at others. Let us be true Christians ready to love and forgive.

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Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

Couple of days back I saw in TV Channel ,Catholic Priest admitting that ALL PRIESTS are not following the right way.There is increase in sex activiites among Catholic priests like hindu swamijis. He was quite bold enough to mention it. Even Hindu Swami Bal Gangadhar gave the same opinion. Luckily, people are not supporting DONGI Swami and Priests.

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RAGHUVEER, MADANTHYAR/DUBAI

TODAY Fr AROGYA DASA YESTERDAY NITHYA ANANDA TOMORROW ....? SOMEBODY ELSE. THEIR NAME IS LIKE THAT, TO KEEP AROGYA FIT YOU HAVE TO DO FITNESS, KEEP EVERYDAY ANANDA YOU HAVE TO ENJOY.

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alwyn, mangalore

hey guys! Plz dont jump into conclusions.. there may be some misunderstanding between Priest & parisioners...lets wait & see he'll be given clean chit....

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shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

We call these priest with respect as fathers. But these fathers are lust kings. Very bad. Condemn this father and not all the fathers. We should let these priest to marry and enjoy the life in a way that pleases God. Protestant priests/fathers are allowed to marry and have their own families. I cant comment more than this, as I dont know the tenets why RC priests prefer to remain unmarried.

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Jacintha, Mangalore

When we sit inside a glasshouse,we should not throw stones at others house. Request christian guys beware while commenting left right centre on other religions issues.

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Roshan, Mangalore

I think such crook priests only bring bad name to christianity by involving themselves in conversion activities getting funds from western countries.

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vishu, udupi

Father"s answer to swamiji? Ellara maneya dose yallu thuthe but kelavara maneya kawaliyallu thutu !!. Appreciate people are no more protecting the corrupt gurus!!!!

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vishu, udupi

Father"s answer to swamiji? Ellara maneya dose yallu thuthe but kelavara maneya kawaliyallu thutu !!. Appreciate people are no more protecting the corrupt gurus!!!!

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pachu , Mangalore

There are so many Anarogyadas in and around. Christianmades are scared to complaint about this. Put camera in all father's rooms also.

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prince, podikambla/dubai

Very good!!!Some body was ther in our communityThese type of priest are not far behind from Nithya ananda swaami.Take care priests.....!

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Ronald D. Machado, Udayavara, Sharjah,

Why blame the priest whent faults with us."the time has come to let marry?"

The fault is our ladies, Priest is human being like us. Our ladies and girls any time round up priests and talk to them by touching him like "yes father" "No father" and all the nakras.

They make it a point to give the priest best food from home "Dukra mass" "Pomfret Curry" and many more delicacies. and there is no limit. Very easy to become "NITYANANDA".

I know one teacher of "girls churchschool" She has given strict instructions to the girls to talk limited with priests&to keep a distance of three to six feet. This shoul be applicable to boys also. I am sorry if i am wrong please correct me.

I told teacher may you will loose your job. She said this is my social responsibility. let us see.

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Rolphy Almeida, Udupi/Bangalore

If anyone has any intension to have social life then they should not venture into priest hood. We all know this life is tough and distractions are many, and we call it Satan. During nine years of training every priest has to realize whether the chosen path is right or not. Secondly women must realize the sacred nature of priesthood and keep themselves away from priests. We are all sinners, but still we pick the one who wear the sacred robe. Do we call it hypocrisy?

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Janet Xavier, Dubai

Everything on the earth is created by THE CREATOR i.e. GOD ALMIGHTY. Adam, Eve, Abraham, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the disciples, Prophet Moses, Prophet Mohammed, all human beings, trees, birds, animals, plants, sun, moon, stars, every creation in any form, etc. etc. NONE OF THESE CAN PERFORM ANY MIRACLES WITHOUT THE POWER GIVEN BY ME, THE ALMIGHTLY. NOT A LEAF CAN MOVE ON THIS EARTH WITHOUT MY PERMISSION BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL MY CREATIONS & THESE CREATIONS PRAY TO ME AND BOW DOWN BEFORE ME BECAUSE I AM GOD AND NO ONE HAS SEEN ME. THEN WHY DO YOU HUMAN BEINGS BOW DOWN BEFORE MY CREATIONS IN ANY FORM RATHER THAN THE CREATOR HIMSELF. THINK ABOUT IT

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Allen Pinto, Mumbai

The parishioners have taken the right step in the right direction to punish this wrong doer and get him to books for bringing shame to the church. This priest must be excommunicated from the church at the earliest so that he does not infringe any further. Best of luck to all the Banglorean Parishioners and keep up the good work and let no evil prevail in this fashion.

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Prakash, Mangalore

This is what I appreciate in Hindus and Christians. Whenever some one is at fault, be it common man or a religious head, people protest and seek justice.

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p.A.Shanu, Mangalore

Preisets , Gurus and their leelas,,,,, Who is next ?

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Thomas Valder, Bahrain

Listening to one sided statement, please do not jump to conclusion. There are lot of Christians whose only aim is to find fault with religious heads. The black spot on white cloth is noticed easily. So, please do not assume and give verdict. I pray that the Priest come out clear from all the accusations. Our prayer is the strength of Priests and Nuns. After all, Priests and Nuns are also human beings. Incase the accusation against the Priest is proved, he should be punished accordingly.

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V.Baretto, Bantwal-Bangalore

Whatever is the background,authorities should have taken timely action before the matter went to the police and the press. Mgr.Jayanathan has saved further damage by his timely intervention.

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george borromeo, Pumpwell, Angelore

When people creat ruccus then only the authorities wake up, that is the pathetic situation.
There should be a internal mechanism to handle the grievances. When these Machanism fails or rustic then the affected or concernrd people will take the issue to the street.So which is good? our institutions should decide.

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Shammi, Karnataka

There is no god,but god...who has only full authority to give life n take life..so believe that god..n stop blaming this father.Bcoz he is also human being n he did human act,but he forgot to do it legally by getting married...NO WhERE IN ANY SCRIPTURES IT IS SAID 'DONT MARRY N GIVE UP WORLDY DESIRES'

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Harold D'cunha, Mangalore, India

When the religious leaders cannot keep the vows they have taken, it is better to leave for them the priesthood rather leading the ungodly life. Better to live as a clean husband rather to live as unclean priest. Good decisions by the church community. Wish unless the church community wakes up, this will not happen. Out of 12 deciples one will be Judas, the betrayel.

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vishwa, mangalore/usa

We have to carefull here. In bangalore there is lot of problem of language. if the preist is kannada all tamil, telugu and malyali will create problem. they want to have their language priest there. so before judge look at all these aspects

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Bharat, India

now this shall be commented by Person like me... coz this is communal ?

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Valerian D'sa, Pakshikere/KSA

Even priest is a human being......FORGIVE HIM. Nobody is perfect in this world. My only suggestion/punishment to him is "Let him get married & taste the material life".

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Najam Batrekere, Bajpe

He is also human being like Swami Nityananda and all of us Not God !
Do not expect Godly features/characters from human being/s.

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rashid, ubar

Marriage and family life are natural / part of civilization, Mating is quiet natural and if it is within legal manner is human otherwise wild. We can lead pious and responsible life when we lead married life. Otherwise the life will be clash against our own nature.

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Ryan, Bgdy

The below comments says like we are the JUDGEs,Pls dont comment irresponsible. Let the authorities look into the matter and let them decide.

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RAHUL, MANGALORE

FATHER OR SWAMIS -THESE PEOPLE ARE ALSO HUMAN BEINGS, THEY HAVE ALSO HOT BLOOD FLOWING IN THEIR NERVES SAME LIKE US,WHY WE ARE COMMENTING FOR THEIR SILLY CRIMES & WHO GIVEN US AUTORITY TO CRITICISE THEM?

AFTERALL THEY ARE THE MESSENGERS OF GOD, THEY ARE PREACHING US GOOD & OUR DUETY IS ACCEPT GOOD FROM THEM & DONT WATCH WHAT THEY ARE DOING BECAUSE NOBODY IS GOOD IN THIS UNIVERSE EXCEPT GOD, IF GOD CAN FORGIVE US SO MANY TIMES, WHO ARE US TO PUNISH THESE FATHER OR SWAMI, BECAUSE NOBODY IN THIS WORLD LIVING WITHOUT SINS, MAXIMUN 75% OF MARRIED PEOPLE ARE HAVING EXTRA MARITAL STATUS NEITHER HE IS BOY OR GIRL & WHO TEACH US TO HAVE THIS?

FATHER OR SWAMI? IF WE DONT HAVE CONTROL ON US AFTER LISTENING A GOOD LESSON FROM FATHERS OR SWAMIS-THERE IS NO QUESTION IN CRITICISING THEM ALSO. THANK YOU.

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Peter, Brahmavar/Sharjah

" Do Not judge your brother"Kindly refrain from criticising and commenting on God's chosen person. As a Christian the people behaviour towards father is wrong. They should have taken the matter to the Bishop.

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BRYAN BRAGGS BIJEI, MANGALORE

FIRST AND FOREMOST THE LADY INVOLVED IN THIS RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE TAKEN TO TASK ,SHE COULD NOT FIND A LAY PERSON TO GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP?. DEFINITELY IF THE PRIEST IS INVOLVED IN A ILLICIT RELATIONSHIP HE IS DOING WRONG,BUT HE IS ALSO HUMAN LIKE US AND IS BOUND TO ERR, A PRIEST COMES FROM THE SAME FAMILIES LIKE OURS THEY ARE NOT SOMETHING SPECIAL.IT IS NECESSARY THAT WE PRAY FOR OUR PRIESTS THAT THEY MAY NOT GO ASTRAY AND WE SHOULD COUNSUL OUR FEMALES THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BEFRIEND OR TEMPT PRIESTS BY THEIR REVEALING DRESSES AND TEMPTING BEHAVIOR.AT THE SAME TIME LET US LOVE OUR PRIESTS FOR ALL THE SACRIFICE THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR SERVICE.LET US FORGIVE OUR ERRING PRIESTS AND PRAY FOR THEM

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Jacintha, Katapadi/Dubai

I understand the situation. However, people should mind that priests, guru's are also human being like us who eat and drink like us.

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Charles D'Mello, Pangala

If these priests can not control their lust, they can always come out and marry.

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Harry, COORG/ B'Lore/ Abu Dhabi.

NANNA PAPAWE, NANNA PAPAWE, NANNA DODDA PAPAWE,Arogyadas (AYOGYADAS)AROGYA KAPATHARE NODI!!!

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Julius, Goa

Mind your business... Rakshu,Mangalore..please don't compare Swami's and Fathers..Our priests are not illiterate like swami's.Remember Devil also has power on this earth..as such all humanbeing are sinner or tempt to commit sins..My advice if u are catholic please do Rosary with ur family on daily basis and devote just mister for our priests,nuns,bishops and Pope.

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nagesh nayaK, bangalore

HI,J0SEPH F GONSLAVES ARE YOU THERE?

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Prabhakr, karkal

ha ha ha ..god only save us

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anamika, Mangalore

After swami now comes a padri with tinted allegation. Who knows tomorrow a mulla's name may also appear. By the way what happened to our society.

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Jaimini P.B., Manipal,Sharjah

I watched Suvarna TV's Swamiji's Special Sex program couple of days back. In that program a Catholic Priest/Hindu Swami were interviewd about PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSE TO GOD having illicit affair. Priest admitted that some Fathers are bringing bad name to church by involving in sex scandal. He requested people not to judge all Swamijis and Fathers in the same manner.Even Hindu's powerful and infulenical swami Bal Gangadhar gave the same reply. What shocked me is that within 3 days Father's prediction and judgement became true.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Good that the conscience of our community members is active and they revolt against a religious figure when one errs. It applies to us all - fidelity is the promise we give to our partner similarly a priest makes a wow of celibacy to God. One has no right to be a priest if he can't keep his promise. Else, nobody would look up at a priest with respect.

There is an authority to judge the errors of priests. If his mistake is proved, he must be punished.

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nagesh nayaK, bangalore

THIS IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. MR.JOSEPH. F. GONSLAVES & MR.SHANAWAZ ARE YOU THERE?

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Anil, Mangalore

Cool down guys! No one knows the truth. Try to solve the problems within yourself, instead of bring up to the world. What if the priest marry her?? Can any of you protest that?? or stop it?

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Lavin Noronha, Paladka/Bahrain

One more "Nithya ananda" father. Shame on you.

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naveen mascarenhas, derabail

Come on my dear friends let us all comment that the priest is also a normal human being like us isint it true.

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nagesh nayaK, bangalore

THIS IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. THERE ARE 'N'NUMBER OF INCIDENTS HAPPENNING EVERYDAY IN CHURCHES SIMILAR TO THIS BUT ARE NOT EXPOSED BY MEDIA & PSUEDOS.

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Rakshu, Mangalore

These fathers,swami's all are the same, they preach all the big things infront, at back they all do the nonsence works. Shame on all the so called Guru's.

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Antony Pereira, Mangalore

Very shocking & bad news for the entire christian community ! It is the freedom, facilities & money will attract any one to the worldly treasure & pleasure specially our Priests. That is why we Christian should pray daily for our Priests, Nuns, Bishops, Cardinals including our Pope. Only prayers will proctect them from attraction of this worldly treasure & pleasure.

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