Mysuru: Group of 14 Karnataka bishops to fight anti-conversion law legally

Thu, Dec 23 2021 12:07:49 PM

Daijiworld Media Network - Mysuru (SP)

Mysuru, Dec 23: At a time when the state government has decided to go ahead with the adoption of a bill against religious conversions, a group of 14 bishops from across Karnataka has decided to meet soon and chalk out a strategy to carry on legal fight against the said law. The group feels that this act specifically targets the Christians.

Bishop of Mysore, Dr K A William, said that the Christians have never indulged in religious conversions and hence there is no question of being jittery about the law. He said that the Mysore diocese is running over 150 institutions and imparts education to lacs of children. "We have extended a lot of service during the Covid period. But we have never enticed anyone to change their religion," he clarified.

Bishop Dr K A William

He lamented that a situation has arisen in which some people have been levelling baseless allegations. He said that there are enough provisions in the existing laws to punish those involved with forcible conversions and hence there is no need for any fresh law. At the same time, he informed that the group of bishops from the state will meet soon to discuss further steps if the said act comes into being in Karnataka.

He said that the Indian constitution guarantees equality, freedom, and brotherhood. He felt that no government should go against these principles.

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Don, Mangalore
Fri, Dec 24 2021
Forced conversions (if any) are wrong and should never happen, but it is enshrined in our Indian constitution to propagate ones faith is permitted. If anyone thinks they can stop the peaceful spread of Christianity then they are dead wrong. The two states in India when Christians have grown from 2% to over 10-15% since 2014 are Punjab and Andhra. In Mumbai over 30,000 Sindhi's have converted to Christianity. The more pressure they put on the church, the more faster Christianity will spread.

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Rajesh B Shetty, Udupi
Fri, Dec 24 2021
This Conversion business has being prospering since very long having full support of then government. Now why some people r opposing it because it is a lucrative business funded by some western countries. Thousands of crores r being funded for this conversion business. Vested interests by foreign countries to destabilise our culture. Our indian govt should deal with this very strictly, some people like it or not.

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KvKamath, Mangalore
Fri, Dec 24 2021
Not only foreign funds, many public and private lands throughout India has been transferred to churches and christians all these years . Fear of these truth emerging out and collusion of many christian revenue officials favoring christians may push them down .That is the reason for the agitation.

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Abdul razak, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Only for forceful conversion right. Why you people scared. If you forcefully convert you must scared.

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H.A. Dsouza, Damoh
Thu, Dec 23 2021
What is the definition of forced conversion? Is it possible in Democracy forced conversion? here word force is used to justify their action. This law is to harass Christian missionaries. Christians believe in quality not quantity. Because Jesus called his followers as Light and Salt of the world.

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Raj, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
One thing we need to keep in mind is that "Forced conversion" should not be thought as conversion using a sword or gun, which doesn't happen anymore. Typically conversion occurs through inducement, brain washing, covert operations, agents etc.. Institutions, healthcare and other services have proven to be successful in predatory practice of poaching souls for harvesting and a lot of money has been pumped from international sources to increases the numbers. The notion here is that there is strength in numbers while the actually spiritual needs of the individual is ignored. I am assuming that spiritual guidance should not be provided by an owner or mentor instead it is a walk with the others who are seeking the same goal.

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Jack, Mangalore
Fri, Dec 24 2021
Forced conversion = tippu sultan taking mangalorian Christians to srirangapatna. Testing their faith thru taking up steep mountains and throwing them down if they do not convert. Thats forceful conversion. I hope Bomma gets this message.

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Veer, Nagpur
Thu, Dec 23 2021
From 1947 till 2014 Christian population declined to mere 1.8% and continuing to decline. Its only after 2014 till date declining Christian population of minuscule number is threatening the present govt. This declining number is insignificant and can not alter the voting results.

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L Pais, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Lets be pragmatic. The problem is 3 fold. One , there is no strong political party backing up Catholics. The leaders who pretend to back up are outrightly rejected by public and are useless, just good enough for press conferences. Have you seen any worthwhile action. I think the leaders want the bill to be implemented and then use it as a election issue and a vote bank tool, stating that 'if we are elected, we will repeal the bill'. Two- Christians from the BJP Minority Morcha are pro Govt and support this , or not against this bill. In other words, there are traitors among Catholics. Three- No unity among minorities. Minority factions are divided .One faction has remained neutral citing Catholic position during CAA protests. All these have led to BJP openly thumping their chest and braying 'we dont need those minority votes'. We just have to wait for gods will.

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Alwyn Dsouza, Canada
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Sunjay, if someone murder my neighbor just do nothing and leave them just because law is taking place. In India how rape cases happend. Anyone took those punishments? Victims parents are still struggling. This conversion law is worst than that just to harras the peace loving societies. Again when your mind is full of hate you wont understand. Day will come everyone of hatemongers will understand and will beg for mercy from same Christians. Wait for your time. Many successful Country have broken and people are fled as refugees to Christian nations most of them were Hindus and muslims. So try your hate as much you like but Christians will always win and do the charity work for your own poor Hindus in providing education and hospital care. Till them whishjng your and your family Merry Christmas and much love from suffering christ from heavy cross

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CIitizen, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
If they were so concerned about Dalits,lower caste why has the govt. Not done anything for them. They are only interested in using force and suppression.. nothing to talk aboug progess and development These chaddis and supporters and oly interested in making money and playing vote bank politics. All these opportunists study and send their children and grand children to Catholic institutions..Writing on the wall for them.is very clear... they are plottingbtheirvown downfall and obsolence.....

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Joshua, Mangalore/Czech Republic
Thu, Dec 23 2021
I don't think this will become successful.because their target is christian.and power is in their hands. They can do anything upside down.because they are in majority. But but I can say victory will be ours not now.later when Jesus comes second time with glory and majesty. These people can do anything for power. But but in front of our eyes many rulers came and gone.and yet to come. Many kings fought with swords and machete saying this kingdom is mine this country is mine Alexander conquered almost all world. Where are these today?What did they take from here? Leave the battle to Jesus victory will be ours. St. Paul says rejoice and again I say to you rejoice and pray without ceasing and give thanks to God in all circumstances.for this is the will of God in Jesus Christ for all of us

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HENRY MISQUITH, India
Thu, Dec 23 2021
If Dalits and the neglected destitutes of India get respect as human equal to other humans, why then oppose conversion? So much of hate and discrimination, caste systems, perpetual conflicts between the "Thakurs" and the "Dalits"; if the Christianity gives them back the Dignity of a human being, let it be.

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Datha, Udipi
Fri, Dec 24 2021
Do you mean to say there is no discrimination in Christianity? Or pretending there is none

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VINYAS RAI, Bengaluru
Thu, Dec 23 2021
"We have extended a lot of service during the Covid period. But we have never enticed anyone to change their religion," he clarified. If no one is forced to convert into Christianity then why fear ?

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AM, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Shankar / Sanjay- There is no problem if any law passed in the parliament and state assemblies with full discussions and taking in confidence with concerned people. Also the law enforcement must be conducted by govt agencies only and without any bias. In this present scenario there is 100% chances are there to take the law in hand by BD,VHP etc with the support of Govt to keep the relegion issue alive and taken as Vote bank of majority. Everybody knows no one is converting by force or allurement because faith is not so weak

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Mangalurian, Mangaluru
Thu, Dec 23 2021
I am against all conversions. Having said that, this law will become another 'anti-rape' law, where a mere accusation WILL throw an innocent person in the jail, and remain an UNDER-TRIAL for years. SC and the High courts have said that over 80% of the rape cases brought to court are false allegations, used by people to destroy others. Those accused of rape, even if innocent, not only remain behind bars for years, but also lose their 100% social reputation. This law against conversions will send a large number of Christians behind bars EVEN IF 100% innocent. So, it is in the Christians' interest to close ALL educational institutions, hospitals, orphanages, UNLESS only Christians are admitted to them.

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Surendra Poojari, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Sanjay Hebri..it's not about getting scared. It's about the stupid law which won't serve any purpose. If Christians have converted hindus then they would have been 80% now but they are less than 3%. Remember farm laws. How stupidly central government brought these laws and now they have taken back. Instead of going for all this nonsense it's not wise to get stupid laws for vote bank as BJP has nothing to show as development of India. They ruined the economy and these laws are just to divert the attention of people. Why government is not bringing strict law against corrupt and criminals? Is it not because more than 98% of our politicians are corrupt and criminals?????

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Rajesh, Kavoor
Thu, Dec 23 2021
This bill is actually following the constitution of our country. The constitution clearly says that propagation is fine, forced conversion is illegal and unconstitutional. Whats the sense in opposing !

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Chandu, Karla
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Can you please explain what is forced conversions...... writing nonsense comments is easier than the factual explanation.

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David Pais, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
show us a single forcefully converted & convicted case, at least 1. show us 4 bringing up da bill in da assembly.

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Steven, Bangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
You are right , Why this new bill is required when we already have this covered in the current constitution framework . Are we creating duplicate bills ?

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sri_elder, Karkala
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Christians need to give birth to more babies to increase their population rather than conversion . Do not oppose anti conversion bill instead welcome that. Develop progressive mind set

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Joshua, Mangalore/Czech Republic
Thu, Dec 23 2021
No problems in producing children but who will take care? There is no job Day by Day it becomes worse the living conditions. At last these children will question parents why did you gave birth to me? Me also born in a poor family.when I had tough time me also thinking y I born? But today I understand that for my birth parents were not responsible. In every situation I remember God and he is responsible. In old testament when Joseph was put in a pit and sold later when he came to power he told God was responsible not you.

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Jossie M, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
That is a right move. Just do it. Do not take it lying down. Hope God will give wisdom to the courts to judge the issue without bias and prejudice.

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Praveen, Udupi
Thu, Dec 23 2021
The RSS gets a lot of funding from abroad. The foreign Govt must immediately stop this funding coming from abroad. Hinduism is also spreading its wings in Christian countries. The foreign Govt must take note of this and put an end immediately. Christian countries must also cut down jobs given to the Hindus. Then soon everything will come on track.

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JL, Mangaluru Smart City
Thu, Dec 23 2021
All these protests, discussions fine..But they are of no or little use.. What I feel is the need of the hour is - cry unto God. Make him the 1st preferrence, not last resort. Without Him we can do nothing.. how about a statewide fasting and prayer asking His forgiveness for our sins and praying for His intervention in the this crisis. Nothing is impossible for Him. He has proven it in the past and will do in the future.. Just dial Him....

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Sukesh bangera, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Karnataka Right to Freedom of Religion Bill, 2021: "No person shall convert any person from one religion to another by misrepresentation, force, undue influence, coercion, marriage, allurement or fraudulent means." The bill is NOT anti-conversion. It is anti- illegal conversion. lets see how the legal fight goes.

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Hilary D SA, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
If I have to follow Hinduism, should I ask permission from the government officials or I have to give a notice of 60 days?.Is nt it a joke? How one can stop in following a virtual belief ?. Anywhere in the world,you have a law on your mind /soul/internal belief? Where are we heading? How one can think of forceful conversation in the present circumstances. I really can't even imagine . We have friends in all religion. We never indulge in internal matter.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi / Mumbai
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Is practice and propagation of faith amounts to conversion? Is advertisement of products and services allurement? Anti conversion law is forcibly preventing us from practice and propagation of faith! Why then Hare Rama Hare Krishna Mission preaching all over the world? How's that isn't allurement?

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Agee, Indian-UAE
Thu, Dec 23 2021
It's definately a fear of real teachings..... Those who read Bible even as a story book will definately find the truth.... Christians are in majority around the Globe not by conversion but by diversion to peaceful path. In Asia specially in India, Bangaladesh and Pakistan minority always suffer.

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Patriot, Karnataka / NY
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Dear Francis, We are already doing this fight against these communal force since decades. Hence it is now your turn. There is long long way to execute this task. There plan was initiated since 1925 and since than they keep on creating back o back issues. And they will not spare any one ( Either Muslim, Christian, Dalit's, Communist, ) unless we resist them in any manner. And finally Brahmins will rule this country ( if their plan succeed.

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Ajay Rebello, Kallianpur
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Like Mamta has shown fight fire with fire or you'll get burnt. Enlist support of foreign countries would like see our embassidors explain this in Indian immigrant nations.

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Ms DSouza, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Welcome move by the Bishops. May The Lord Reward You Thousand Fold. One thing is sure That We Already Have The Victory Through The Blood of Jesus. We Believe that with Our Lord All Things Are Possible. So Let's Believe For A Breakthrough. Jesus Bless Us All.

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CHRISTINE, mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
AS Ester in bible succeeded against the cruel minister who was with king. Ask Gods people to fast and pray. Keep night vigils for the same intension. Keep fasting prayer for the same intension. God will fight for us.

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David Pais, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
da whole anti -conversion bill is anti-national, anti-constitutional & against a human rights.

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Vishal, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Its better to workout a compromise formula and move ahead. If there is nothing unusual, there is no need for worry. Lets not be provoked by politicians and get emotional.

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Harold Dcunha;, Mangalore, India.
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Vishal, There is no compromise formula. This draconian Anti Conversion Bill is nothing but harassing minorities specially Christians. The fringe groups and police will unnecessarily got tools to harass.. Vishaal, Which College in Mangalore has given Covid 19 hospital facility for the police personnel? Isn't it , St, Aloysius College Institution.

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Sanjay, Hebri
Thu, Dec 23 2021
😂😂Why do you fear of you people are not converting?😂😂

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David Pais, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
@ sanjai, hebei, y da govt fears & y da majority fear of conversions y y y

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Rakesh Nayak, Mumbai/Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Because one can simply get arrested under the new act with false allegations. The person will be in jail for minimal month or until secure the bail, to prove his innocence. Two simple questions need to be incorporated, will the law punish false complaints or compensate victims. Second why the immunity given under the law for re conversion ? Why not it amounts to offense?

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Jacy, Mangalore
Fri, Dec 24 2021
Sanjay, why do you fear if your faith in your religion is strong. Why don’t you help the poor and downtrodden so that no luring force’s can’t convert them Easy to preach but difficult to serve and sacrifice

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Jd, Mlr
Thu, Dec 23 2021
When there is an existing bill to handle forceful conversion, an additional bill in karnataka sounds foul, has ulterior motive surely. When states go against the Constitution, or lack faith in existing laws, surely state should be challenged. They are elected to govern within the existing framework of the nation, spending time in hide and seek kind of games at people cost, should be challenged. Support...

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Francis Lewis, Sasthan
Thu, Dec 23 2021
In Gujarat BJP / RSS not succeeded in implementing this Law and i request all Minorities should come together to fight the battle together so that we will certainly get Justice. Our Lord will show the way to this BJP / RSS and other group in our State and our state will pay the price heavily.

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Jossey Saldanha, Raheja Waterfront
Thu, Dec 23 2021
We Christians are Honest ...

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Shankar, Mangaluru
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Prove by actions. Welcome the bill. If you are not forcefully converting why do you oppose a bill that bans forced religious conversions? The bill does not restrict voluntary conversions.

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Sanjay, Hebri
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Exactly....

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Jossey Saldanha, Raheja Waterfront
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Shankar & Sanjay, We don't want anyone to disturb our Prayer Meet citing Conversion ...

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David Pais, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
v r opposing da bill becoz it is against da human rights, against da constitution & it us anti national. if converting is every humans wish & will who r u 2 stop in a un-necessry bill.

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Babanna, Jeppu, Kudla
Thu, Dec 23 2021
Honest people don't afraid of this bill...........

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H.A. Dsouza, Damoh
Thu, Dec 23 2021
BJP Govt. dont like uplifting of poor and downtrodden people. Since Jesus can liberate us from social and Economic bondage, Hence blessings of Jesus attracts people arround the world.

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KvKamath, Mangalore
Sat, Dec 25 2021
H.A. Dsouza, Damoh Why are churches for outright sale out in USA. ? Jesus leaves the nation if people are exploited in the name of Jesus. I can give you a list of christians in our taluk who have got temple and private land changed to their names without the knowledge of the temple or owner. According to you ,if the thief robs your assets without attacking you, is a good person . Can you challenge me in the name of Jesus that all the bishops of Karnataka jointly or severally will be able to restore those temple land to the temple and original owners , if they are true to Jesus. Impossible sir.They will shield those erred person and that gazetted officer only . If they are ready to rectify these mistakes , I will share survey number of those plots and the names of those villages in your next reply.All these dramas are enacted only to serve their personal interests and political masters . I know these people can only stall the progress of citizens and nation .

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Alwyn Dsouza, Kudla
Fri, Dec 24 2021
Babanaa, people like you affriad of 3% of minorities. Hide like a pussy .. Cate. Shame on you. 3% can stand like a lion for you losers. We are the winners.

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pili, Mangalore
Thu, Dec 23 2021
We pray for success to you. God will surely bless your work.

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