NEIL SEQUEIRA, MANGALORE

Neither pork or beef is compulsory for christianity or Islam, when our parents were young, in 70's and 60's eating meat was a privilege and vegetarinian was mostly feasible food due to the then times, i remember father said that on 7 or 8 times a year chicken was cooked that was a feast

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Gerald,

Too intelligent of you to have noticed 'plagiarizing' in one of my posts. I can google-search for just one sentence from Sejal Shah's post and find out from where he copied the literature and report his offence but my motives are not to trick people.

What baffles me is that this man did not worry about raw-material drain to Britain, Kohinoor in the Queen's crown, financial burden on India through allowing high positions to British officers but only Beef happen to be his concern.

Hypocrite ! Trying to teach us that deterioration of agriculture in India is caused by killing cows whereas cows were never used to till the land ! Had no answer why Karnataka did not fare well in agriculture ! Smart Gujju Yeah !

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Ronald D'cunha, Faridabad

Excellent information collected by Sejal Shah of Surat. Earlier we didn't know of it. Bravo - against Britisher's - what went wrong in between. Keep it up dear writing. Please avoid comments of Lydia Lobo.

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Gerald, modankap-bantval

LYDIA LOBO AGAIN YOU ROCKS !!! SEJAL SHA IS DOWNLOADING THE IMPRACTICAL NONSENSE FROM GOOGLE AND PASTING ON DIAJI COMMENTS WITHOUT KNOWING THE REALITY !!!

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iqbal, mangalore

Sejal Shah (SS), Bantwal/Surat..

completely agree with yoi..no where it says one must hurt sentimetns of other relegion and beef eating is compulsary...

here these people just want to make fn of others belief ..nothing more..

as we have other options likes of chicken or mutton ..so atleast by respecting majority relegiun india one can avoid beef..

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abdul sathar habiballah, moolur/Jeddah

The catched beef is served by all inclueding policemen behind the screen, the ultimately sufferer is 3 person who brings the beef to eat others.Kai keseradare bai mosaru

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Rihaan, Mangalore

Really senseless on the part who ignore the truth when it is already there in thier own scriptures. I dont understand why people also think in the same way for the plants too. It too feels pain. Plz also stop this cruel act. So innocent are these. Punish those who are vegetarian. Does this make sense? .please also stop those who kill the chicken alive and drink their blood in one of the rituals of bhootha kola. brother's just look at your teeths. It wil speak as well as your scriptures. Eat what is lawful to you. Not all the animals. We are not permitted to eat flesh of tiger or elephant. Have knowledge fully and then comment.

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Pais, mangalore

Its like the saying goes "water water everywhere not a to drink"..

See the article below.. Its a mockery of our system and goes to show how stupid and idiotic our state policies can be.. SRS, read the article and go hang yourselves

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/india-to-become-largest-beef-exporter/934186/

India is likely to become the world's largest beef (buffalo meat) exporter by 2013 as there is consistent demand from price sensitive importers, primarily in Southeast Asia, Middle East and Africa, USDA has said.

"Given India's explosive export growth, India is likely to become the world's largest beef (buffalo meat) exporter by 2013, if not sooner," United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) said in its latest report.

Export growth is largely on account of consistent demand from price sensitive importers, primarily in Vietnam and Southeast Asia, Middle East and Africa. As a result, the number of export production units is increasing to meet growing export demand for low-cost Indian buffalo meat, it added.

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unknown, mlore

this is nice...transporting beef is a crime ok ...people can understand that but...question is throwing stones at a vehicle and chasing them is not a crime...hahaha someone please help me to stop myself from laughing....what do you expect 10-15 crazy people are behind you trying to stop you...one would think its a gang or some kidnappers or even worst (like this situation) ..even a 90 year old man would run to save him self...lol...that means i could throw a stone at a vehicle to stop it tommorow and no body could question me why on earth am i doing it...i could give a stupid answer and get away with it ....this is like heights of foolishness...plz try understanding what i have written above...to make everything look sensible..thanks...regards a (youth of mangalore )

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SALEEM, UPPALA / SHRJAH

Mr. Maria Demello , Really great comment - Be practical

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Pradyumna, Mangalore

Well said Sejal Shah.
You have a good knowledge about the history. Nice comments.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Sejal Shah,

Hitler's eating/abstaining from beef or being nonalcoholic did not make him famous but his cruelty did.

The British left us 65 years back and we are still cribbing over what they did ? Should we not blame our grand parents for our state today than to the British ? Or, should we not blame the kings who surrendered to the British instead of fighting unitedly ? Or, those who invaded India before the British ?

You have a free democratic nation in your hands - please explain what you did for those who are lower in social status. Let us talk of today ! Beef consumption is one item of many social problems ! A Brahmin Governor or a Hindu President could not impose Anti-cow-slaughter bill because they know that economically low class people can afford only Beef not other meat products !

Please note Beef is not only cow's meat but bull/buffalo too included. If you people have a different definition for each animal, that is not my problem !

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Abdul Khader Kukkaje, Mangalore/Abudhabi

I have the few questions to opposing team of cow slaughtering who are those known as the bajrangis, sena, sangha, jagarana etc of sanghaprivar inspirited people, who are those people belong to any organizations whatever name it (their organization) is, Questions 1)Who is given the police department’s authority to you people.? 2) If you are not eating the beef, that is up to you. But why you are interfering the others freedom of eating. Although there are many solid evidence about you people also consuming (eating) the beef. You people have eating it, while drink your gangasara (wine.) Here (in gulf countries) some people (they are Hindus only) telling their previous experience in India, while they have worked in wine shop, that you people asking the beef in wine shop, otherwise sending the boy for (buying the cooked beef parcel) from beef availability restaurants. After that while eating this beef, asking the boy that ‘from which restaurant you brought it’? and again you people were discussing,”once we will attack there after eating there, for big amount of the bill”. They say we knew these are our bajrangi customers only. There are many cases like you eaten the beef in Muslims hotels and while paying the bill simply started to quarrelling and attacking for selling the beef dish. Which is the intension only because of escaping from paying bill amount? 3) If any article is harm certain community and if they protesting for it… then you people shouting, Oh this protest against Freedom Expression. Then why you were not thinking you’re attacking against freedom of eating. Is it? 4) As per mythology only the cow is holy for you, then you are stopping the meat of bull, buffalo etc. buffalo (KHONA) is killing (giving Bali) in front of so called God & Goddesses in front of DEVI like KHALI,MAHAKHALI etc. which is this system is existing in our Karnataka only, especially in north Karnataka. If you are sincere in this regard, then why not attacking such a tradition of north Karnataka.

Although I agree the ride of police department on beef stalls, which is running without license, unhygienic and buying and selling robbery animals. It should be stop and restrict by the law. I have respect the Indian Constitution so that, I say this should control by concerned department only any social or criminal organizations should not have any attacking role in this regard. (Except they and the media can give only the awareness and awaking people by focusing such a shops or rackets.) if someone attacking means they don’t respect the Indian Law i.e. the Indian Constitution. For them we can say Antinational. (Deshadrohi.)

If daijiworld is giving the chance to this debate and co-operating with publishing this views...as a comments, as a separate article or face to face etc for their readers. Then the more and more questions will be… now my time is not permissible to continue it, so let me get some opposing or supporting answers from our matured team o

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Kiran, mangalore

The comments are true in history said by Sejal Shah. i Found it ... Thanks to Sejal Shah from Surat. Very rightly said. Nawaz is nothing know about history he is twisting the history...Jai Sri Ram

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Mr. Ganesh Rao,

I am not confused the 'Green Revolution' that started much after British' leaving India, made Punjab the 'Wheat Bowl of India' due to HYV seeds and use of machinery in agriculture.

If the cow had that power and with protectors like SNS, Karnataka should have been 'Rice Bowl of India' whereas we see only draught reports. We are still using animals for tilling - tractor is a distant dream.

If you elaborate which part of my post is confusing, I can explain you in detail.

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Louis Dmello, Mumbai

what a reply from Sejal Shah (SS), Bantwal/Surat friends i am not a BEEF lover our family avoid eating reason as a child we grown up drinking COW milk so we cannot cut and eat Mother Flesh but interesting fact i can see in this article Maria Dmello, Mumbai got 641 Votes as compare to Sejal Shah (SS), Bantwal/Surat 28 so we are appreciating CRIMINALS NOT WELL WISHERS POINTS. God Bless them ALl

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Irene D'souza, New Mumbai

Sejal Shah (SS), Bantwal/Surat

You have described in very good manner. Thanks for it. How the slaughtering house started in India. At mumbai Deonar is also built by britishers.

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Mohsin Khan, Mysore/Bahrain

Masah'all good comment from Sejal Shah. Liked it very much to know the truth. No doubt India is more better place to live than Pakistan. I am an Indian first. Ameen.

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Ganesh Rao, Kumta

It looks like Lydia Lobo is confused lady. Well said Sejal Shah from Surat. Should forward information to one and all to know what's happened in India during British rule. It's true there policy divide and rule.

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Musthak Hameed, kulur/panjimogaru/dubai

ಕರ್ನಾಟಕದ ಸಿಂದಗಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ಪಾಕಿಸ್ತಾನದ ದ್ವಜವನ್ನು ಹಾರಿಸಿ ದೇಶ ದ್ರೋಹದ ಕೆಲಸ ಮಾಡಿದ ಈ ಸೇನೆ ಇಂದ ಬೇರೆನು ಉಹಿಸಲು ಸಾದ್ಯ.
ಜೈ ಹೋ ದೇಶ ದ್ರೋಹ ಸಂಘಟನೆಗೆ

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S.S.D'Souza, udupi

Sejal Shah it appears by your argument that you had your history lessons from modi sir

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Nawaz, Mangalore/Dubai

Sejal Shah, Seems like you a re living in an era of Dream World.. None of the Muslim Empires banned cow slaughter in their period, It is a people like you Who are twisting the history of india by saying non-sense stuffs and even now majority of the people eat Beef. There is a section of people in Andhra-Border workshipping Hen as their gods, Tomorrow if they claim to banned Chicken slaughter then will you ban chicken slaughter.

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Jacob Mendonsa, Udupi/Abu dhabi/Bangalore

Dear Mr.Vikas Shetty,
If U worship cows as your GOD,then why r allowing them to graze in dirty Garbage in all over Bangalore
Also we should not allow them to sleep on almost all Bangalore roads.Please send Rama Sena to clear them from the Garbage & from the roads.Apprecite your help in this connection.

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Sejal Shah (SS), Bantwal/Surat

Ms.Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Even during Hitler's administration of 'National socialism' in Germany the 'Beef' was not eaten, instead pork was given priority. Remember Hitler himself was a vegetarian, non smoker and non drinker.

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Lydia Lobo, Kadri

Sejal Shah,

Plagiarizing is a punishable act.

Going by your reasoning, Karnataka would have been rice bowl of India (at par with Punjab being wheat bowl of India) contrary to being draught hit because there are volunteers like SNS to protect the cow.

People of Gujarat are majority vegeterians. Does it mean they involve in agriculture ? No ! Gujarat is famous for industry.

You are free to draw comparisons but be logical.

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Sejal Shah (SS), Bantwal/Surat

Ms.Maria Dmello, Mumbai

Robert Clive – the so called Founder of the British Empire in India who was twice the Governor of Bengal too – on entering India was astonished and amazed to see the success of the agricultural system here. He went on researching the reasons for the success of the Indian agriculture and discovered the root – The Holy Indian Cow. The entire hindu life style revolved around this animal, not just religiously, but socially. Cow was an integral part of a Hindu family as was any other human member in the family. He even found that in many places the total number of cattle was more than the number of humans living there.
Ok, so he decided, to break the backbone of agriculture in India – the holy cows have to be targeted. And thus was opened the first slaughterhouse of cows in India in 1760 by Robert Clive at Kolkata. It had a capacity to kill 30,000 cows per day. And anyone can guess within a year’s time how many cows would have been killed. And within a century India had very little cattle left to sustain its agricultural needs. And Britain as an alternative started offering artificial manure, and in this manner urea, phosphate etc started getting imported from England. Indian agriculture had started becoming dependent on west invented artificial products and was forced to give up home grown natural practices.
Guess what, till 1760 most of India had banned not only cow slaughter, but also prostitution and drinking wine was banned as well. Robert Clive made all three legal and removed the ban.Now the British had hit two birds with a single stone by this move. The first was to break the backbone of the Indian agriculture ie making cattle not available for agriculture. And the second?

Well, obviously Hindus did not work as butchers at the slaughter houses opened by the British. And of course the British were well known for their divide and rule policies which they practiced throughout their colonial kingdoms then. So what did they do? Well, they hire

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Sejal Shah (SS), Bantwal/Surat

Mr.shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

Babur, who invaded India all the way from Kabul, despite being an orthodox Muslim had banned Cow Slaughter in his empire. All successive Mughal Emperors – Humayun, Akbar, Shah Jahan, Jehangir, Aurangazeb, and then even Ahmad Shah had banned Cow Slaughter in their kingdoms. Hyder Ali and Tippu Sultan who ruled the Mysore State in the present day Karnataka had made cow slaughter and beef eating a punishable offence and the crime would be punished by cutting off the hands of the person who committed the crime!

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Kinhabbu, kasaragod

Well done Sri Ram Sene..Keep it up with ur work. We all with u..Jai Sri Ram, Jai Hindu Activists.

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ISMAIL.K.PERINJE, PERINJE-YANBU/KSA

Sangh Parivars (RS/BD)getting intelligence up dates before Police!A violent opertion taking law on to their own hand but Police department head not opens his mouth.So many such kind of untoward incidents are happens which creates rift between the communities, yet BJP govt enjoys it always!!! ??

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Jossey Saldanha, Mangalore/Mapusa/Mumbai

Mangalore Police Commissioner Mr. Seemanth Kumar Singh, could you please tell us who has given the authority to heavily armed Rama Sene activists to stop vehicles by stoning them. If they have your permission kindly appoint them as police men and ask your existing police force to quit. If they don’t have your permission tell us why they are not arrested and what action are you going to take.

Mr. Singh also try to find out under whose instructions does this outfit operate and why do they antagonize only minorities.

Mangalore by and large has been very peaceful under your tenure but these incidents bring about communal tensions.

We will also appreciate if Rama Sene and Co., use their resources to curb DRUGS and PROSTITUTION which is CANCER to our society.

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Kenneth, Lalbagh

Just have a look at the front of the tempo. They MISUSE the sacred Om to transport beef and that too Muslims. Why create this communal disharmony. I support the Rama Sene on stopping this tempo. Also what is the proof to the public of that they carried swords? Media can say anything unless you have seen it for yourself. Also just for public interests, major bars in DK are mixing beef with pork which should be stopped. Dont hurt the sentiments of the hindus just because you cant afford pork when beef is cheaper. Thats a rude attitude of the bar owners. Jai Bajarag Dala Jai Rama Sene.

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reminder, mangalore

why discrimination while arresting seniks were carrying swords,and other weapons and they were left free so they doing what law people are supposed to do, so do the govt pay salary to law protectors in kaki ,just to protect ministers

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Lancy, Mangalore

you forgot to mention PORK.

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Celine C. Pinto, Mangalore

Why to close down all restaurants? Instead pl. advise them to place cameras in restaurants to find out
who comes to eat Beef. I dont think only christins & muslims eat Beaf and that too in Restaurants.
Because majority they cook at home without fear as & when available in Market.

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indian, mangalore

please grow up.In this century think scientifically,cow is just an animal respect it, not worship it.Hindus, Muslims or Christians worship the creator not the creations. Don't say everything is God, say everything is God's. By saying cow is a God we are degrading God, we are people living in cities, not jungle.

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shaikh mohd rizwan, Karkala

Dear readers,

The Rama Sena should have informed the police in advance if they had prior information.Let the law take its own course. The law never gives permission to take in their own hands.If they damage the vehicle, threatens the occupants with illegal weapons it will be more big offence than what they are trying to stop.The police commissioner should look into this matter stop this happen again.
Jai Hind.

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alban lewis, Kallianpur/bangalore

yes good catch for BD and other sene.
They will have a great feast with that meat for several days. May be Dines P. and cronies will also join the party. Alcohol is free - it will be supplied by BJP Excise minister - he has experience in supplying for Resort parties/rave parties etc.

One thing I donot understand is - if I can buy BEEF in Bangalore and other places - why it is not allowed in some other places in Karnataka? Why this dual policy? There also may be Ministers want to make money - by selling beef illegally at higher price - right?

I think many of the hindus eat mutton - that is meat of goats/sheep/lambs!!! in hotels and other eateries.

Are they assured of getting mutton? I am sure it is mixed. I hope Dinesh and cronies stop eating from today!!!! The so called vegetarian butter (made out of Milk from cows etc) - Bangalore 9 - showed on TV - how this butter is made - and it is said to be very tasty - from the hindu buyers.

And they trouble people who eat or want to eat beef - who according to law have the right to eat anything they choose.

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Vikas Shetty, Mangalore

Dear Maria, Cows are sacred for us. We do worship cow as god.. No man will support to kill their god.. so we have full rights to protest if someone tries to disturb our beliefs... Good work Ramasena..

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jeean, mangalore

Good job of Ram sena. We need your service to protect our society. I too like to join.

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Vincent, Mangalore

I see a potentially criminal offence here which is being conveniently overlooked. What about the fact that the RAMA SENE Nazis threw stones at and damaged the vehicle whilst being armed with swords and other weapons??

Our police are proving that they are as communally motivated as the criminals that they should be protecting us from.

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shahnawaz kukkikatte, dubai/udupi

If beef trade is made legal, then all hygene aspect would be taken care of and beef traders would invest. Since there is lots of phobia, uncertainity no one is ready to ivest or take a chance... Make it legal and you would find good quality frozen beef in freezers and freezer vehicles reaching your door step...By the way these SRS and BD are the major consumers of beef. Since anti cow slaughter has not become a law and it remained as bill, no law enforcing agency can stop it until it becomes a offence punishable by law...Useless people with useless mind...

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suhail, udupi

Maria dmello said everything no need more discussion Thnx Madam. good comments

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Rakesh shetty, mangalore

HATS OFF TO RAMA SENE DAL GROUP. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.KEEP IT UP.

PUNISH THEM WELL ON THE SPOT THOSE WHO INVOLVED IN THIS WORST CRIME.

THIS WORST ACTIVITY SHOULD BAN IN EVERYWHERE. JAI HO RAMA SENE.

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Tina Lobo, Manglore

Dear Mariabai Dmello, Mumbai see the quality of BEEF stuffed inside the tempo it is totally in unhygienic condition so we need to appreciate this time for RAM SENA activists who stop this poison reaching to our minority public, i have complete stopped eating beef.

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Gerald, modankap-bantval

THE WAY OF TRANSPORTING BEEF WHICH IS OUT OF THE WORLD WHO WILL GOING TO EAT IF SOMEONE SEE THE FOLLOWING PICTURES !!! IN MANGALORE THERE IS NO ROOM FOR HYGIENE AND CLEANLINESS AS WE ARE STILL LEAVING IN STONE AGE !!!!

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Imran Kaup, Dubai

lovely comment Maria Dmello- Fully agreeed

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Maria Dmello, Mumbai

It is indeed shamefull that a democratic country like India uses government institutions to harass minorites in the name of religion to appease the majority community. Beef is eaten all over the world and it is not a drug or alcohol that needs to be controlled. Eating and transporting beef has become a crime now thanks to the religious fanatics. Why not use the same criteria for goats, sheep, chicken, fish as they are have life. Close down all restaurants, shops where they sell or trade in any livestock. Go back to the stone ages.

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