anonymous, mangalore

I do not support any party or religion but y are people opposing this bill? Hindu or non-Hindu superstitions are a thing of the past made up by uneducated people. but now in this century i dont understand y oppose this bill? Do people still want to believe in superstitions? Even after they know the meaning of the word superstition? These are some things to think about. But personally i still feel a bill was unnecessary as an individual has his freedom of beliefs.

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Gretta, Mangalore

Define superstition first. List the activities, rituals that come under superstition. Most of the doubts will be cleared.

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Gopal Sherigar, Udupi/Mumbai

This is election time and as usual they want to create divide between communities and appear as the savior of a particular community. This tactic is being played by only Congress to garner votes.
But this time around congress people should know that people are literate and they have the brain to judge what is good for them and what is bad for them. There are a number of issues hanging fire like PDS, Education, Revenue etc. instead they are playing with a non-issue. One small example if Congress wants to eradicate superstition then how the Central Govt. Allowed ASI to dig for gold? This is not superstition?
People are requested to be vigilant in exercising their franchise. Keep in mind!

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Arshad Kadli, Bhatkal / Al Khobar

Mr. Mohandas,
Had congress been my favorite I would have never written this comment.I neither support congress nor oppose BJP. My support will be based on issues and not party.
Whereas I appreciate Golden Quadrilateral Project of NDA. I cannot be a mute spectator to issues like Bellary Mining, Blue Boys, attack on churches by the previous BJP government.

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Satish Kunder, Mangalore/Kuwait

The government is doing the right by enacting law against superstition. Black magic and superstitious beliefs have ruined many families and babas are making merry by fooling innocent people. These babas include hindus, muslims and Christians and the law is applicable to all.

I can understand the hue and cry of fundamental elements in the society because this is the only way they can keep fear psychosis among people and keep them divided based on religious faiths. This is the requirement for their political survival. Anti-superstition activist Dabholkar was killed by these same people.

This bill is applicable for all faiths of people and not to one community. Once this bill is passed all the Dongi babas in the society will be without jobs in Karnataka.

I am sure this law is only applicable to the superstition in the society and not religious customs as claimed by Sangh Parivar. However this may be applicable to superstitious customs like made snana, removal of shirts while entering the temple which was purely made by powerful communities without any basis.

Let us give a hand to the government in eradicating the superstition within us and in the long run it will help the society in a big way

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Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

In Kerala in most of the temples it is compulsory to remove the shirts while entering like Guruvayur, Kodangallur, Vaikam, Ananthapadhmanbha, Taliparamba, etc. since ages. So it is a tradition, & we need not blame anyone.
We cannot expect a Lawyer/Doctor wearing t-shirt/mundu & doing his duty. So to get a discipline this temple this might have been followed. So the belief & practices should be let to people & devotees & it is not a business of government to control these things. If the intention is to harm someone or damage, it is a matter of concern. But faith in Astrology/Vastu/Religious Rituals & Practices, etc. should be let to people.

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Satish Kunder, Mangalore/Kuwait

Dear Mr. Mohandas Kapikad,

It is very simple to know why the practice of removal of shirts in the temple is being practiced. It is only to check if the person has janivara or not. If he has janivara he can be allowed up to Garbha gudi and for others a distance away. Please do not say this is for discipline. Discipline can be maintained with the shirt also.

I consider this as discrimination and should be eradicated immediately.

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Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

In Kerala Shirts has to be removed compulsorily..& anyone is permitted upto Girbagriha & not insided. No one cares whether you have Janivara or not, only thing is that you have obeyed the dress code.
& this Bill looks more impractical than realistic.

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Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

In Indian Society, we bow & seek blessings for our Parents, Elders, Religious Leaders, Sactum in Temples, as a sign of devotion, & not as competition/suppression. If one wishes to respect his religious Leaders, should he take permission for Budhijeevies/State Govt.? If we condemn other Religious Leaders it is wrong, but believing & honoring our own Religious Leaders is definitely good work.

This is Bill is purely biased, & seems to have a hidden conspiracy against faith & sentiments of Indian Majority.

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Arshad Kadli, Bhatkal / Al Khobar

What about sadhu who dreams of treatures buried at several locations?
What about government agencies who start excavations based on dreams and fool people that it is based on scientific evidence?

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Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

Ask your favourite Congress about this issue, as they had carried out a process through ASI.

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Mohandas Kapikad, Mangaluru

In the name of Superstitions, the Congress is attacking the sentiments of people.
Will not any people call a priest to perform rituals in their premises/marriage/etc.?
Will not people perform Vastu pooja during House warming ceremony ?
Will not one go to Temple to worship to overcome their personal difficulties ?

These Law simply shows the mean mind of our CM, & doesn't reflect peoples sentiments.

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K. S. Mayya, Mangalore/Bangalore

Wow...Indian National Congress is living up to their true reputation
First Shadibaagya - ive appeasement of a section of votebank.
Now superstitions bill - clearly meant to provoke another section of the votebank.
Looks like Siddu has a secret pact with Modi to ensure at least 27 seats from Karnataka to BJP come 2014.
All the Modi bashers beware..Modi is coming...!!!!

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ravindra, karkala

Wah, Superstition bill to Hindus & Shadi Bhagya to Muslims. Hindu religion is not static water and dynamic to adjust things with the times. Create awareness through media and no Bill required. Let govt concentrate on development, otherwise Mode will overtake you.

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Truth First, Mangalore

Sachi, First of all i pity the way you think. As an individual you are easily influenced. Prahlad joshi, comes out in open and claims that congress is banning only Hindu Superstitions and without verifying the facts you just go out blaming the congress govt.
Take a minute, see the no. of disagrees you have, scroll up and see the comments against such evil practices of people belonging to all religions. The bill that is going to be tabled is immaterial of any religion. We all stand for banning it immaterial of any religion. if congress bans only Hindu practices, then we will join with you in condemning the act.

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For Justice, Abu Dhabi / Ubar

I am confused.Can anyone clarify whether this bill applies only to Hindu's or irrespective of any religions???

If only for Hindu's,then the BJP's challenge is in the right path..

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PREMNATH SHETTY, BANGALORE

Most of the provisions are targeting only one caste and community. He has left out animal sacrifice which is highly prevalent in central and northern Karnataka where thousands of buffalo,goats and sheep are butchered on a particular auspicious night just because they are practiced by backward communities like kurubas.If such a clause is introduced it will also hurt the muslims on Bakrid and also being practiced in many darghas. Similarly will he ban whipping their own bodies on Muharam or piercing the bodies on Easter.High time the CM thinks first before introducing the bill.I AM FOR BANNING ALL PRACTICES WHICH CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO INDIVIDUALS,BIRDS AND ANIMALS.

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Nanag Shetty, Kinnigoly

For every ritual there is a superstitious belief behind it. No religion is free from rituals and superstitions.
Animal sacrifice , Exorcism , black magic spell , miracle healing etc is found in most of the major religions !!!

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Naufal, Uddabettu

All types of superstition should be banned irrespective of any religion.We will welcome govt. decision if it not targets particular religion.

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P. Shivaram Shetty, Baroda / Vadodara

Suppose my family is selling X product which is fake and earning our livelihood since generation. Then suddenly govt decides to ban this fake product X and snatch my livelihood, then naturally I will oppose such move.
In the same way there are many priestly class in all the Religions who earn their livelihood by selling Superstitions to gullible people. That is why the politicians who represent such priestly class are opposing this Bill.
We can easily understand what is their selfish motive in opposing the Bill. So, Siddu govt should go ahead with implementing this bill.

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Prasanna, BELGAUM

Congress is going to the dogs in 2014 Loksabha polls. Desperate to please minorities. SO it is bringing bills to divide. If taking school children to the temples is banned then why do you worship chamundi goddess on Kannada rajyotsava day, Do you ban it ? We follow madesnan, madi and panktibheda.

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Ravi B Shenava, Mangalore

So far only 13 comments here. Number 13 is considered inauspicious in some Western Countries (European Superstition adopted by foolish Indians), So I am adding 14th Comment even though I don't believe in this foreign superstition.
Please note that for Hindus number 13 is very auspicious !

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Viva, Bangalore

Prahlad Joshi should mention about the non Hindu superstition instead of beating around the bush.BJP is scared of loosing fraud babas and dongi sanyasis!! Former CMs Yedyurappa and Sadananda Gowda have no other matter to speak about except superstitions. CM Siddharamayya has got full support from Hindus,Muslims,Jains and Christians,

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VIVEK, Udupi

This bill should be introduced all over India.

Just keep track of the society opposing to this bill. as long as the people are ignorant happier are the exploiters.

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Arun, Udupi/DxB

Bill should be passed in assembly and all non-scientific &superstitious beliefs like Jyothishya,Mata,Bird/animal scarifies to please Gods/Goddesses etc practicing people to be brought under law regardless of Hindu/Muslim/Christian!
If BJP doesn't support it then its a party of stone age:-)

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ethan , mangalore/mumbai

As per bill 13 practices are cognizable offense or evil practices.

*human sacrifice in the name of black magic
*siddu bhukti
*okuli
*made snana
*maata
*pankti bheda
*bethale seve
*proclaiming to have spiritual power
*voilent methods to cure disease
*keeping menstrual or pregnant women aloof
*vaastu, astrology, numerology: if prediction results in harm or financial loss.

I feel only the practices that can cause death or harm to others should be banned.
Rest is left to the individual, whether to follow it or not.

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Antony, Mangalore/USA

If a BJP member's child was a victim of human sacrifice like what happened in Yeyyadi a few years ago I bet they would support this Bill! Wake up BJP! It could be your child next!!!

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai

I never knew superstitions also have religious affiliations!

I thought PROGRESSIVE MINDED PEOPLE and PARTIES will welcome banning INHUMAN superstitions like:
1. Eradication of Human Sacrifices. 2. Inhuman Evil and Gory Practices
and Blackmagic Bill, 2013.
3. Promotion of various practices
that exploiting people!
But the real fact is different!
There are protectors of inhuman superstitions also!
So the superstitions still prevail!
Who are the beneficiaries?
Who are sacrificed?
Who are victims of Gory black magic practices?

FINALLY WHO ARE SOCIAL REFORMERS?

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Charles D'Mello, Pangala

Superstitions be it Hindu, Muslim, Christian are to be stopped for ever and ever.

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Suresh, Karambar

Leave this matter to people who will decide what is wrong. India is democratic country we don't want any law what we have to follow educate the people that is enough. We have elected the Govt to give good governance suitable to all religion .. not divide basis of our belief irrespective our religion. Jai Hind.

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G.Z.T. Kunte., Udupi

Instead of using a general word as " Non-Hindu Superstitions " Joshi should have given an exact description of at least a couple of such non-Hindu superstition.

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Aubb, kuwait

@G.Z.T.Kunte, Udupi.

Why does BJP want to protect black magic and superstitions in the first place..?

The proposal is to eradicate black magic and superstition for the sake of the protection of the victims of such vices which (unfortunately) has reached the highest proportions!

Where does the question of any religion arise when the bill clearly states eradication of black magic and superstition...??

Does Mr.Joshi have any vested interest in protecting people who practice such evils in the country??

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Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

Yes here we go, now BJP is totally correct. I thought this bill covered every religion whereas the inside game is entirely different being played by CONgiss Party. So, it’s not about superstition in fact it is applicable for only Hindus. See the Dongi and Cunning nature of CONgiss. If BJP’s claim is correct of course we all Hindus will oppose this bill for sure.

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Syed Mohiudin, Iruvail/Riyadh

Superstitious beliefs are not only in Hindu religion,whereas some Muslims are also following this. So the bill is totally for all religions.Some people are opposing this for their political benefit.

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Peter, Brahmavar

When your beliefs and superstitions not harming the self and not harming the other government should not make any law to restrict the human freedom.First of all experts should define what is superstition and what is faith.India is a democratic country and multiple culture and multiple faith which we inherit from generation to generation. So govt.should refrain from complicated bills.

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Gladson, Brahmavar

The Moral Bankrupcy of BJP stands exposed again. They bring religion into everything and prove that without religion, their party stands nowhere! Before opening their mouths, these guys should first read the draft bill. I read and convinced that the 11 recommendations given by the committee, if implemented, will bring about a great social change. Nowhere in the recommendation, a single religion has been targeted. In fact the second recommendation clearly means that all people (astrologers, mullas, babas, priests, etc) who are misusing religious beliefs would be punishable under the act. After all why BJP should worry about this? This is a just a draft and before it becomes a bill, it has to pass through and should be discussed in the Assembly.

So BJP has all chance in the world to bring in their concerns, have them discussed and then change the draft wherever necessary. So why go around 'bitching about' even before reading the draft? Actually they thrive with these kinds of propagandas and division of society. In the last 10 years they have done the same thing at the Centre. Instead of allowing the Parliament to function and then bring in their grievances, they disrupt the functioning. Instead of discussing the issues in the Parliament, they discuss them in the streets, rallies, social websites which show that they are not ready for discussion but want only to preach discourses to a listening and un-questioning audience. Same rhetoric dialogues! Religion, culture is in danger, pseudo-secularism, Sonia, Rahul, Gandhis etc. I have not seen any of them speaking on anything else other than this. Even their PM designee, instead of placing his vision, his intentions, his plans for the nation, his foreign policy, his stand on various issues plaguing out the country, speaks only about Sonia, MMS, Rahul and Gandhis. Nothing else! And he wants to be PM just because he leads a rudderless party that hates Gandhis. Disgusting!

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ashraf, muscat

well said...

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RSRB, Kundapura / KSA

Gladson, Brahmavar,

If you say it is moral bankrupcy of BJP, you should redefine what you mean. The issue is raised unnecessary by Congress as no one is bothered about it, it shows moral bankrupcy of Congress.

Besides, if you take the only moral, yes I agree that superstitions is bad, but secular enough to say irrespective of religion. But why Congress wants to project only Hindu superstitions is bad shows the intention is bad.

Remember very well that India is Hindu majority that is the reason you are safe. The moment muslims increase more than 50%, within few minutes India will be d as an Islamic country. At least feel happy for the good heart of Hindus (of course your ancestors too are Hindus, neither Muslims nor Christians)

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Basil, mangalore/dubai

BJP is Faking a lot and confusing the public. They did this for the last 10 years and now that trend for Faking is steep high. Desperate people.

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simple, Bangalore

Gladson, Brahmavara

Exactly what I said earlier but not SO WELL SAID.
Everything you pointed out is true about RSS\BJPians
Let them read what you wrote so clearly - The Bill is not PASSED yet - There is lots of time to argue\discuss pros and cons\put forward for addition\deletion but just do not go about spreading rumors as if the bill has already been enacted and the religion is in danger...!!


Now have breather to calm yourself down - and show RSS\BJP cares for the betterment of the people that is for a "change"

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Ajith, Mangalore

Ravi Shetty- Good joke from you. What the world calls black is white for you. Instead of supporting measures to get rid of superstition you are supporting the party which only harp on a particular community for votes? If Congress is communal we may have to rewrite the Indian history and we may have to make everybody believe Nathuram Godse as the father of the Nation?

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ravi shetty, mangalore

That's the Spirit, we have to stop this communal congress from passing the bill.
NAMO
BJP Zindabad
Modiji Zindabad

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Joseph F. Gonslaves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

ULTA CHOUR KOTHAWAAL KO DAANTE.

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ravi shetty, mangalore

Tumhara congress India ko loot ke paisa aaspas me baite.

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Surendra Bantwala, Bantwala

Communal Congress and it has no guts to include non- Hindu superstitious Bill.. It will end of the Congress... Jai Sri Ram..Siddu is Buddu...

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Raj Shetty, UAE

"Reforms come naturally for Hindus. There is no need for enacting laws to bring changes," Joshi said. True words Joshiji because ours is natural religion and race, how come minds are interfering with our emotions , who are against nature itself. CM is hijacked by commies save him rather than thinking that he will spoil his party image and they will defeat in the next election. because we hindus have to follow our customs and faith for next five years, so rather than doing politics clash back against the government,

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Bollu, Mangalore

First of all let congress government give good infrastructure like roads/electricity/water/jobs/housing facilities etc. Due to bad roads how many people die daily. Due to no jobs how many people commit suicide. Without proper shelter..how many die during the monsoon. In some places people do not have adequate water supply. Before doing any other things..just rectify first what's important.

Can you people think by introducing the bill people stop doing black magic...???? Just try to send as many people to school..educate them. Automatically all solutions will be solved which congress government doesn't want to do from the last sixty years. The crime rate increased due to un-employment. Killing spree going on everywhere. Nobody now safe in one's home. What's the reason behind..no food. How one can survive..??

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Manoj, Mangalore

Very well said ,The govt must emphasize on the basic requirement for people of state first..then about other things...

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