Nothing wrong in Shiv Sena demand for removal of 'secular': Ravishankar Prasad


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New Delhi, Jan 28 (PTI): Hitting back at Congress over the Republic Day advertisement row, a senior Union minister today said leaders like Jawaharlal Nehru and B R Ambedkar were "more intelligent" than the present day Congress leaders and did not include 'secular' and 'socialist' words in the original preamble of the Constitution.

Talking to reporters after the Cabinet press briefing, Telecom Minister Ravishankar Prasad said he found nothing wrong in Shiv Sena MP Sanjay Raut's reported remarks that these two words can be permanently dropped from the preamble.

"What is the objection in placing some views in a historical perspective. The preamble, which was used in the advertisement was the original preamble and the Constituent Assembly which had prepared it had leaders like Jawaharlal Nehru, B R Ambedkar and others. These two words were not there then.

"Did Nehru have no understanding of secularism. These words were added during the Emergency. Now what is the harm if there is a debate on it. We have put before the nation the original preamble," Prasad said.

Congress leader and former Union Information and Broadcasting Minister Manish Tewari had yesterday attacked the Centre on the issue, claiming the government advertisement "deleted" the two words, which was only a prelude to their "substitution" with "communal" and "corporate".

The advertisement had carried a picture of the Preamble to the Constitution as it appeared before the 42nd Amendment, without the words 'secular' and 'socialist'.

The advertisement showed a picture of the Preamble in the background with a quote from Prime Minister Narendra Modi and pictures of some citizens in the foreground.

Minister of State for I&B Rajyavardhan Rathore yesterday said that while some people were trying to rake up a controversy, the ministry had only used a picture of the Preamble when the Constitution was first adopted.

Noting that the advertisement issued by the I&B ministry on April 14 last year during the UPA's tenure had the same picture of the Preamble, Rathore had said if "there was nothing wrong with that picture then, there is nothing wrong with the picture now".

 

Earlier Report

Mumbai, Jan 28 (PTI): A day after row erupted over a Republic Day advertisement of Information and Broadcasting Ministry, the Shiv Sena today demanded "permanent deletion" of the words 'secular' and 'socialist' from the Constitution.

An acrimonious war of words had broken out between political parties yesterday when an advertisement issued by the I&B Ministry carried a picture of the Preamble to the Constitution as it appeared before the 42nd Amendment, without the words 'secular' and 'socialist'.

"We welcome the exclusion of the (secular and socialist) words from the Republic Day advertisement. Though it might have been done inadvertently, it is like honouring the feelings of the people of India. If these words were deleted by mistake this time, they should be deleted from the Constitution permanently," Sena MP Sanjay Raut said.

"From the time they (the words) were included in the Constitution, it is being said that this country can never be secular. Balasaheb Thackeray and before him Veer Savarkar had been saying that India was divided on the lines of religion. Pakistan was created for Muslims, thus, what remains is a Hindu Rashtra," Raut said.

The minority community has been used only for political gains, while "Hindus are being continuously disrespected," he alleged.

"It is nowhere written in the Constitution that you mete out such treatment to Hindus and use Muslims to garner votes," he said.

"This mistake on the part of the government has happened only because destiny wants this to happen. Modi is the Prime Minister of India, and his thoughts on Hindutva are strong," the Sena leader said.

Yesterday, Congress leader Manish Tewari had attacked the Centre on the issue, claiming the government advertisement "deleted" the two words, which was only a prelude to their "substitution" with "communal" and "corporate".

Minister of State for I&B Rajyavardhan Rathore, however, was quick to dismiss the charge, saying his ministry had only used an "original" picture of the Preamble as it appeared before the Amendment, to "honour" the first Preamble.

The Union Minister also claimed that the same picture had been used in an advertisement by the I&B Ministry in April 2014. Tewari had helmed the ministry at that time.

The advertisement showed a picture of the Preamble in the background with a quote from Prime Minister Narendra Modi and pictures of some citizens in the foreground.

  

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  • Beaware,

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    Its the same sickularist's who were chanting unity and diversity,secularism during freedom struggle and at the end its the same people who divided this country and forming non secularist country..killing thousands of them..imparting terrorism throughout the world and todays sickularist's are not different from them

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    What about Evangelist IAS officer C Umashankar preaching Christianity.

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  • GANGARAM, MOODBIDRI

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    DAY WILL COME SOON TO PAY HEAVY PRICES FOR CHOOSING THIS NAUTANKI GOVT. GOD SAVE OUR INDIA

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  • Dev Sagar, Mangalore

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    YES UNDER THE COMMUNAL GOVERNMENT, MODI'S DICTATORSHIP AND RSS REMOTE CONTROL NOTHING IS WRONG. THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN POWER.

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  • Ahmed, Mangalore

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    The India is basically Secular,the people here are basically strong believers of Secularism.So where is the issue ?The problem is created by communal politicians and Communal Sanghi supporters. They wanted to spread hatred because their heart is full of black and their mind is filled with Venom. These people in fact big hypocrites who do not really contribute anything to Nation development. Their evil mind enjoys seeing suffering of others. But India will move on.These people will go to dust and Nation will stand strong always.

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  • abdulla, india

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    who is Ravi prasad or Shiv sena? to decide or even talk about the constitutional rights..they come and they go..
    do something good while serving..
    1.2 billion Indians .. 60 % are poor .lift them up from poverty...
    there is lot more actual work than talk abt religion or constitution..leave that alone for the time being..you better focus on cleaning GANGA..BUILDING TOILETS..BUILDING SCHOOLS.. GENERATING EMPLOYMENT BY building infra for industries and so forth.. forget talking about religion..
    bring back the black Money first..bring in JANLOK PAL bill..
    Practice what you preach first..
    While handing over Gita to others make sure we follow Gita practically in which case none of the politicians will be on their seats .. look at IPL..

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  • Alban D Souza, Udyavara /Bajjodi/Mumbai/Doha Qatar

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    India is a democratic country. The fundamental right of the citizen is right to vote and nobody can take it away. Remind of course India is a secular and will remain as secular. Let all people hold the principles of the constitution Live in harmony and peace by following the constitution of the Democracy then there will be peace, unity in Diversity.

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  • Suleman Byari, Udupi

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    8 months have passed without any progress. There was lot of time wasted with discussion on the following :
    1. Article 370.
    2. Amendment on Muslim personal law.
    3. All muslim ancestors should as Hindus.
    4. Those who don't support modi should go to Pakistan.
    5. Love Jihad.
    6. Ghar Vapsi.
    7. Har^mz^da..
    8. 4-5 Children.
    9. Secular Vs Communal.
    All non sense.
    Still they think Most of Indians can be easily fooled and forgetting the power of voters. It is the same voter who cornered the congress from the notion that " Even a dog can win from congress ticket"
    When this politicians will turn India's prospectus?

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  • Sachidanand Shetty, Mundkur/Dubai

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    All your nine points are very valid and debatable since it is nothing but true….. We know very well that these truths are very bitter to people like you….. It’s also true that percentage of one such community increased from 25 to 28….. You may ask similar question to our Siddu Govt in Karnataka….. 20 months have been passed out but show me one such developmental work which is benefitted for all people irrespective of religion and caste!!!!! Byari Saab….. Sit in your easy chair and thing about these 9 points very calmly and then you see the answer yourselves!!!!

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    Mr Shetty saab….your quote……. “It’s also true that percentage of one such community increased from 25 to 28”…………..SO WHAT ?????????? you being a chartered accountant, you should not behave like sadakchaps……As per you the increase is only 3 % , what is the issue.But you, you being a CA forgot to say, the increase is in what period.. and did not compare with the national level.. I think your CA institute did not teach / pass you for comparing apples with oranges…. BE MATURED . don’t get clean bowled, and your such hate comments may go to the disciplinary committee of your Institute…TAKE CARE….

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    Now this incarnation found good in
    Pundit Nehru.

    Indeed, India never had such a terrible predicament like this and the Parliament has turned like a pandemonium playground of jungle political philosophers, talking total nonsense.

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  • Raj, Mangalore

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    India will always be secular and will be secular till the end courtesy the majority are seculars . No matter India is threatened often by these retards , who themselves give self certification .

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    THIS IS NOTHING BUT OBAMAS SLAP FOR COMMUNAL PARTY.

    FRUSTRATION COMING OUT

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  • Shahul, Honnali

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    MAHENDRA

    Dont twist the meanings to suit your ideology.

    Secularism doesn't mean Minority appeasement.

    It means respect all religion and dont hate others.

    Communal means not Hindu appeasement. It means hate other religion.



    So all Muslims and Hindus are secular.

    Only Venomous Hindus and Muslims are communal.

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  • Manju, Mumbai

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    India will be secular only as far as Hindus are in a majority.The day they become a minority will be end of secularism and will be the beginning of an islamic state.

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  • Muhammad Beary, mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Being a lawyer ravishankar prasad must be aware of SR bommai V/s union of India case where it upholds secularism comes under basic structure of Indian constitution...
    And from keshavanand bharti V/s state of kerala case ..he must be aware that basic structure of the Indian constitution cant be ammended.....

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  • Chandra, Dubai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Poor hen does know whether it hatches chick egg or duck egg. It will presume that all eggs become chicks like her. BJP is like the poor hen!
    Days are numbered. You remember name on the suit of Modi it's our money. Why he did not stitch that Suit when he was CM of Gujarat. Mannee big problem cho Gujaratisho !

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    THE TRUE DESH KA GADHHAR NO 1.

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  • Dr S Kamath, Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    India should be an example to the world as to how Hindu,Muslim,Christian s live peace fully and real Secular (not pseudo secular) attitude by all is very important. I am sure NaMo also of tge same opinion .

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    HERE COMES ONE MORE JOKER. WITH DOUBLE STITCH CHEDDY

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  • An Indian, Mumbai/UAE

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Its a shame that responsible people in the rank of MP talk these words. HOw can such people lead India into a developed country??? Never. Never... The British while leaving India have gifted Divisive Politics and went, so that they never raise their head in the world and we Indians for the past 65 years piously following this.... Wake up citizens......Think about the next generation, who are already starving... How can People elect such people??? A real pity.....

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  • J. N. Lobo, Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Since when responsible people have become MPs in India? Majority of our MPs & MLAs with umpteen cases (including many criminal cases) pending against them with their gutter politics of hatred have any respect to be called responsible?

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  • Praveen, Kulshekar

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    But not from the dictionary, if so then why not a word called SENA, I may be wrong for Bharathiya Sena but not for so many unwanted Senas cropping up.

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  • Anonymous,

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Part of the reason it was not included in original version could be they never thought that this country can produce venomous snakes like Cheddies.
    Later they de

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Shetty,

    You can show all your patriotism you want by singing national anthem and saluting the flag, but if you discredit the constitution by spreading lies, you have just proved yourself to be unpatriotic.

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  • robert dsouza, kallamundkur

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    actually sivsena is hindu support party,why they hate other state hindus in maharastra.indai is my country,it is not divided on caste or bar,only state for languages and development.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    ISIS aims to make Iraq & Syria an Islamic State/Country
    Pakistan became complete Islamic State by General Zia Ul Haq
    Nepal worlds only Hindu state has become a Secular State.
    U.S. is a secular Country.
    From Whom Shiv Sena want to draw wisdom and imitate?

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  • Sunil, Mlore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Just tell him that Obama is coming here again. He will go silent. I remember Amit Shah called these people as Rats..There is some truth in it.

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  • Jayanth, Bangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    The founding fathers of India did not find any merit in this and the words "secular" and "Socialist" was not there in original version. This was introduced to give a impression that before 1972 India was not secular. In spite of partition of the country Hindus opted for secularism and rejected communal parties in all earlier elections. If today we support BJP not because to make this country Hindu Rastra, because we want to tell that failed and alienated by the so called secular party. VHP/BD are all temporary phenomenon.

    Don't know about other communities, but as long as Hindus are in majority this country will be secular and never a theocratic state.
    Those who have doubt on Hindus love for secularism read the history of last surviving hindu rule of Vijayanagar empire

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Jayanth,

    You have got your thinking all wrong. I agree with you that hindus can be tolerant towards other religions but there have been instances were there have been conflicts between hindus having different ideology.

    You cant say that one religion is good over the other. all of them are a bad for humanity. religions impede progress and thats the fact.

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  • jeevan, mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    If India is secular country ? then why we have hindu /muslim personal law ?? Why not uniform civil code for indians ???

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  • Homer, bharat

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    ask modi..he has full majority

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    WHY BECAUSE WE DON'T WEAR KHAKI CHEDDY.

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  • Kamal Taiyyeb, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Considering Modi's past anything can happen under his rule.

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  • Monu, perla

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    If PM is still silent, one day they will force to remove white and green color from our flag also .. so pls wake up PM wake up…

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  • sam, mlore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Shiv Sena demands Deletion/removal of 'secular' word from Constitution.
    And we demand Deletion/removal of Shiv Sena from our India..

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  • Jayanth, Bangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    You want Shivasena to be d
    Shivasena wants some communities to be d

    Do you think it can happen ?
    Only option is build the bridges, close the gap , Live and Let Live...
    No one can each other without deleting self

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Ambedkar never added these words in our preamble of constituion... you think he knew nothing..? He infact strongly protested adding SOCIALISM word in preamble and said, country may need to switch to capitalism, some day!

    OK, now who added this...?
    -Indira Gandhi
    When did she add?
    -During emergency, when individual rights were taken off and she had murdered voice of the people and democracy, scuttled freedom of all press and media and people!

    How long did she debate the issue before the amendment..?
    90 seconds, ie, just 1.5 mins of the Parliament time! Holy christ...! and such a big decision..? country is Ammerna aasti....? infact, the whole thing is fraudlent as it is during emergency!....

    Let there be debate.. Yes, I want this to be the "Secular country".. as Obama told, we need to be secular to be dveloped..? but what is Secularism..? THE ONE THAT IS THERE IS In US.. "Uniform civil code... to practice religion in private... no marrying four as per your will... no kids as per your wish... ONE LAW.. no law of god or sharia controlled zones etc... let there be debates all across... Media should debate that instead color of Modis dress or names printed on it!

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  • geoffrey, hat hill

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    Vellano, "Let there be a debate" Those in power would just love that! Easiest way to divert public attention from other core issues such as pre-poll promises, by engaging the entire nation, especially the so called intellectuals in a never ending debate and in the meanwhile keep filling the 'private coffers'.

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    so many PROMISES have been made by earlier governments too.. NONE are achiveed and NO ONE EVEN BOTHERED about them.. they went on winning for 60 years.. did you question then..? blindly voted right? Even Modi fans are ready to vote him blindly for next 2 terms too!... BUT LET US FIX THE CORE ISSUE ... Intolerance is growing because of the appeasements acheived!... Development aur education agenda apne jageh hote rahenge! we are all working hard for our own development and betterment.. what is the important issue..? You DIDNT VOTE him, because you thought DEVELOPMENT was never an issue for you, Isn't it?

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  • Venu Gopal, Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Where is our PM? busy with Bhashan?
    why he is silent?

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  • sam, mlore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    @ Venu Gopal, Comon you shoud not ask why our PM is silent -its patented by BJP to manmohan singh-.
    Feku can go silent as long as he want -give him some time to relax after prolonged speeches-. And his silence means he is planning for the our ACHA DIN KA DEVELOPMENT...hahaha

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  • Dr Indian , Mlore/London

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    He is called Maunendra Modi for a reason ! Or he might be busy discussing the design of his next suit with his designer while citizens of India are suffering !
    Also there is a possibility that he might be getting his chest measured up to see if its got better than 56' to talk about it in the next bhashan in front of the sheeps who will get goose bumps listening to the size of his chest!
    Happens only in India my friend!

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    Planning for the next foreign visit and working on the special dress outfit for that visit, may be a custom-made golden vest with the map of India at the back and front with diamonds engraved, to show the world that India is shining and the tax-payers will pay the cost.

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  • Dev Sagar, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    LOOKS LIKE MODI AND RSS ARE PLANNING TO REWRITE THE CONSTITUTION TO SUIT THEIR COMMUNAL AGENDA.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    They will be swallowing constipation medication. They lost their blind political calculation. If the Government will not fulfill at lest some of the promises but only repeating the political rhetoric, finally they will be swallowing the constitution. How many of the 100 days promises are fulfilled?

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  • VIKAS, MUMBAI

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    If India is a secular country then why benefits under secularism is very ive

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  • MYB, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    There are some actors in the political system who mock democracy as well, pride in calling themselves dictators.

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  • Praveen, Udupi

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Hotline is now established between India and US. Now permission is required from USA for everything.Chaiwala has sold India to the USA completely.

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  • masif, Jubail

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Shiv Sena demands today remove the word secular from constitution
    Tomorrow not allowed to stay seculars in india

    ವಿನಾಶ ಕಾಲಕ್ಕೆ ವಿಪರೀತ ಬುದ್ದಿ

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  • Vikas G, Udupi

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    India is secular only because majority are hindus. The day this changes India will be another Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria or Yemen. Some people once in majority do not accept democracy then.

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Exactly ..., that is the underlying point.., however the irony is that fight for Minority votes b'coz of fight within & among parties lead by Hindu leaders.
    Only hindu's can defeat the FEKU socio/religious organizations working under the Mask of political parties by not supporting such political parties.

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  • Shahul, Honnali

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Vikas

    India is secular because secular Hindus and secular muslims are living together without narrow minded thinking like you.

    If Secular was no there then these chaddis would have made India another afhganistan,syria as these chaddis have similar ideology.

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  • Zakaria, Ganjimatt

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    MAHENDRA,RAJESH SHETTY

    You guys lack of knowledge about our constitution is evident from your comments about the secularism as per Indian constitution.

    You think secular means its something related to congress,muslim league or Owaisi.

    Atlease see below and understand if you have belief in Indian constitution.



    Below is not copy paste from any lallu panju media.Its absolutely from our constitution definition.

    Quote"

    "A secular state is a concept of secularism, whereby a state or country purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion".

    The Preamble to the Constitution asserted that India is a secular nation.

    The expression " Socialist Secular" was ed in the preamble by the Constitution (42nd Amendment) Act, 1976. The object of ing this expression was to spell out expressly the high ideas of socialism and secularism and the integrity of the Nation"

    Unquote"

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    this will not go in the Kopdi of SADAKCHAPS....

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Thu, Jan 29 2015

    they have strong khopdi to bear the sun, rain and winter! hence they dont wear a TOPI!! the seculars need extra care for their khopdi, else it will evaporate.. vhe vhe vhe

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  • JK, Udupi

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Everybody understands the meaning of the word 'secular'. The point here is, word 'secular' is misused by some of the political parties for their own personal agenda.

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  • vellano1, Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    exactly..read ur lines again.. and press for "unfirom civil code.. no sharia rules' for all! so that this can be a secular state like America!

    1976 was emergency period... whatever she added in preamble can be made null and void! that too debate was for 90 secs...

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  • JK, Udupi

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    LOL...debate was for 90 sec... good one!!

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    YOU COPY PASTE FROM GOOGLE MUST LISTEN.....

    SECULARISM IS NOT A BHOGHI TO APPEASE ONE COMMUNITY ONLY, THE SECURALISM MEANS THERE SHOULD BE NO DISCRIMINATION OF ANY RELIGION, SABKE SAATH SABKE VIKAAS.... I AM ASKING ONE QUESTION TO YOU, APPEASING MINORITY MEANS SECURALISM AND APPEASING HINDUS WHY IT BECOMES COMMUNALISM?

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  • Daniel, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    kuchh nahi hoga re baba eis desh kaa....gadbad zaali re baaba.....
    chor kotwal ko dandthae zaisa hai.
    Fikr na kar maamu.

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  • Alchemist, mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Shiv sena should be made aware that basic structure of the Indian constitution cannot be altered...It is not like street blabbering or hate mongering on south Indians or northies or minorities....study some law from minerva mill case ,golaknath case and kesavananda bharati case....If you can do it go through courts not by blabbering in streets and press meat...

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  • Vikram Bondal, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    What next? Removal of the constitution itself?

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  • Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Now let us see what the leader of the most criminals of the 16th parliament / Lok Sabha does.

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  • A.S.Mathew, U.S.A.

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Change the word "secular" to 'siva sena", then define those words to the whole world, and the countries around the world will be following the Mumbai leader's political revelation.

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  • TTS, Kadri

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    ಕೆಲವು ನಾ#ಗಳು ಬೊಗಳಿದರೆ ಭಾರತದ ಜಾತ್ಯತೀಯತೆ,ಅಖಂಡತೆ,ವಿವಿದತೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಏಕತೆ ಹಾಳಾಗುತ್ತದೆಯೇ?

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  • Oliver Machado, Udupi - Sharjah

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Now Shiv sena has woken up to the reality that their party has to make all the noises,afterall the mumbaikars have rejected them beyond compare and they have no control.

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  • Bollu, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    World,s only Hindu Nation,Nepal has turned secular but our sickular cheddis and senas want to go back to dark ages.The people who voted these parties to power are nothing but fools.Yesterday there was a commemoration of holocaust in Poland where everyone took oath to fight for a world without hatred.The communals of this country just want to go in the line of ISIS.Vinashakale Vipareetha Buddhi.

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  • Silence,

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Constitution will be there untill Hindus are majotity in this country or else story would be different...Hindus respect each and every religion hence people from all religion enjoy the similar rights given to Hindus because of which you are bluffing like this...So there is no need of word secular in constitution..why cant you protest for the rights to other religion in any other country in the world where Hindus are minorities.Even minorities like sikh,Buddhist,Jains dont want to spoil the demographics of India in the name of sickularism

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  • S.M.B, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    today morning modi emphasized the need of unity in diversity .now comes a joker ridiculing the basics of constitution. i think this circus will continue till 2019 because modi has no courage to talk against these fringes. Ultimately people will give them a full stop in 2019.Till then preserve your patience.

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015


    ACTUALLY, THIS SECULAR WORD IS HAVING NO MEANING...IT IS CREATED BY CHOR PARTY AND SAME PARTY MINGLED WITH MUSLIM LEAGUE, OWAISI PARTY AND HOW COME THEY WILL CALL THEMSELF AS A SECULARS?

    THESE SICKULAR MINDED PEOPLE HAS NO AGENDA EXCEPT SECULAR WORDS.....

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Chaddism is the best and suitable word......

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  • Amith, udupi

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, having solemnly resolved to constitute India into a SOVEREIGN SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC and to secure to all its citizens:
    JUSTICE, social, economic and political

    LIBERTY of thought, expression, belief, faith and worship

    EQUALITY of status and of opportunity

    and to promote among them all

    FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual and the unity and integrity of the Nation

    IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twenty-sixth day of November, 1949, do HEREBY ADOPT, ENACT AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS CONSTITUTION.

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  • Venu Gopal, Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    These Shiva sena and RSS chaddis need to sent to Taliban

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  • Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015


    FIRST CHADDILESS PEOPLE NEED TO PACK TO PAKISTAN VERY URGENTLY.....THEN ALL PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED....

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  • GANGARAM, MOODBIDRI

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    THESE SENA AND OTHER COMMUNAL ORGANIZATIONS WANT TO LIVE IN INDIA WITHOUT CONSTITUTION!!! BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY POLICIES IN THEIR LIFE EXCEPT GIVING PROBLEM TO OTHERS.

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  • Rajesh Shetty, Mlore shj

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Lol Mr Perinje..obama chided Bjp govt? Hahahaha in your dreams? Was he addressing a congress rally to chide Bjp or the ruling party meeting??( like your Kagodu thimappa).
    People like you will quote obama also, supreme Court also, and support Hitler also if the statement or situation suits your agenda.

    He was generally addressing the people for Sickulars like you to jot to spew venom in the name of religion,only then country will grow. Not for Bjp or any party. Did your party hire him for Delhi polls or what to chide Bjp?

    Hahaha as usual masters of twisting statements.

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    In other-words POTUS visit to Hindustan become TUSSS.

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Yesterday he was observing moun vratha. Today he has woke up.....

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  • Rajesh Shetty, Mlore SHj

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    That's coz I got a beautiful life outside this forum. Not a looser one like you to cry over sour grapes daily.

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    After OBAMA's advise on secularism to BJP lead NDA govt, The rat holes across Hindustan were full...., LOL

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  • Rajesh Shetty, Mlore SHj

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    I was afraid of you yesterday, that's why I was hiding at home

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  • MMK, mlore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    After Obama left the country they are talking courageously . They were hiding like rats when Obama was here. Such cowards are good for nothing.

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  • R.Fernandes, Dubai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Corruption in the economy is bad but can be tackled.
    But we should not allow corruption of minds by infusing fanatic ideas of religions. This is far more dangerous than corruption in the economy. Corruption of minds can create another country like Pakistan within us and it can destroy our great nation.
    Modi will succeed in preventing the corruption in the economy. If he succeeds in preventing the corruption of minds then sky is the limit for him.

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  • Abdul Rafiq, Uchila / Dubai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    MODI WILL SUCCEED IN EVERYTHING SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY HARDCORE SUPPORTERS ARE THERE FOR MODI & BJP LIKE MR.R.FERNANDIS, DUBAI.

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  • Well wisher, Udupi

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    You are totally misunderstanding Catholics. They seek justice not anything else.

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  • Abdul Rafiq, Uchila / Dubai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    NOTHING SURPRISE. BJP ALREADY TALKED ABOUT REMOVAL OF MINORITIES FROM INDIA. AFTER MODI GOVT CAME TO POWER, MAHATMA GANDHI'S PLACE REPLACED BY GODSE. MAY BE MOHAN BHAGWAT ALREADY STARTED TO WRITE THE NEW CONSTITUTION TO REPLACE THE EXISTING ONE. ALSO BETTER TO SHIFT THE CAPITAL CITY FROM DELHI TO NAGPUR. THESE ARE THE SANGHA PARIVAR'S PRIME AGENDAS AND THEY WILL TRY THEIR LEVEL BEST TO IMPLEMENT IT IN THIS 5 YEARS. SO WHAT MR.OBAMA TOLD IN HIS SPEECH IS 200% CORRECT. IN FUTURE WE CAN SEE ONLY COMMUNAL RIOTS, HATE SPEECHES, CIVIL WAR ETC ON DAILY BASIS IN INDIA. NO DEVELOPMENT...NO DEVELOPMENT.

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  • Rajesh Shetty, Mlore shj

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    In India secularisem is not followed. It's only sickularisem. For the sake of blind vote banks.

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  • Amith, udupi

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    so communalism should be followed for the sake of cheddis ..

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  • SK, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    in india secularism is not followed, but CHADDISM is followed. nothing to worry...

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  • Rajesh Shetty, Mlore shj

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    But still you refuse to wear one. How sad

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    ok bhakts ! ...you just follow your CHUDDISM..

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  • shuba, mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    This sena people have plenty of time to waste in such controversies rather than using it for the good governance aimed by the PM. If they are clever enough to gain confidence of all communities in general then they should invest their precious time for the humanity rather than picking up such issues to fight

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Anti-national shiva sena..by 2019 you and bajapa will face shiv ka insaf.

    Shiv sena is a garbage bag filled with criminals, rioters and murderers as MP's.

    They can make a separate nation with their own fascist constitution for themselves in some red light district of bombay.

    shiv sena = anti-india party of traitors.

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  • Truth,

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Constitution will be there untill Hindus are majotity in this country or else story would be different...Hindus respect each and every religion hence people from all religion enjoy the similar rights given to Hindus because of which you are bluffing like this...So there is no need of word secular in constitution..why cant you protest for the rights to other religion in any other country in the world where Hindus are minorities.Even minorities like sikh,Buddist,Jains dont want to spoil the demographics of India in the name of sickularism

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    The bottom line is that the moderates need to take this country forward. Please sideline all Hindu and Muslim extremists who want to impose RSS/VHP constitution or shariah in India.

    India is for progressive and liberal minded Indians and not for these talibani fanatics.

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  • MILAN, DXB

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    AFTER BJP COMING TO POWER ALL COMMUNAL PARTY COMING OUT OF HOLE ONE BY ONE.
    EITHER THEY THINK MODI IS THEIR MASSAIAH
    OR THEY HAVE BIG SECRET OF MODI WHICH CAN RUIN HIS CAREER.

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  • Vishal, Mangalore/Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Instead of this cheap political tricks just to get voted from majority,they can resort to some good work such as educationg street children/releasing innocent females from brothels,etc who r hindus,
    That will help them not only to get votes but also Bhagvan or GOD will bless them with good health,peace,etc.

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  • India First, India

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    All religions should be banned in India !! Religion should be given no Importance in anywhere.....

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    I would like to see that happen but it wont. What should be done it that the religions should be practiced privately at homes and in the premises of religious places. All street parade should be banned. Political parties having religious affiliations should be banned. Alas, this wont happen either.

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  • ISMAIL K PERINJE., PERINJE.

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Shiva Sena or BJP or it's allied dozens of group does not respect INDIAN CONSTITUTION.Rightly Barak Obama chided BJP govt to be secular and constitutional bound.I think GOD(se) party rightly said.

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  • ca girishkk, m'lore/dxb

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    What an idea sirji...,

    Side effect of last minute advise from OBAMA before he left.
    Before investment/development/ governance & employment GOI must uphold & practice Secularism.

    Before doing this, it is prudent to recall (gar wapsi) all Hindus living across the world (US/Aus/UK/GCC countries etc.,).

    Good that suggestion come after OBAMA left ..., LoL.

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  • ABDUL , Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    it is a Direct attack on Indian Constitution!

    Attack on Constitution = Attack on Nation

    its high time to call them as Anti Nationals..!!

    history repeats!
    the same force who killed Gandhi are in a hurry to kill the secularism, ethos and principles of Indian democracy..!!

    Save Democracy, Save Constitution!!

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  • Clifford, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Shiv Sena has nothing else to do and are trying to draw communalists to their party.

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  • CONRAD JOHN TAURO, SHIRVA/UDUPI/DUBAI

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Next time they want to abolish constitution...

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  • N.M, Mangalore

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    These stunts of extremist hindutvadis will boomerang badly, It appears that BJP and its allies have forgotten about vikaas and acche din.

    These fanatic talibani parivar are resorting to petty and cheap politics instead on improving lives of citizens around them.

    Congrats to all BJP and NDA voters...you brought this mess upon yourselves.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Wed, Jan 28 2015

    Should we add COMMUNAL ...

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