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Objection to Tipu Jayanti celebration a conspiracy by RSS: CM Siddaramaiah

  •   Sat, Nov 07 2015 11:18:34 PM

Bengaluru, Nov 7 (PTI): Defending his government's decision celebrate the birth anniversary of the 18th century legendary king Tipu Sultan, Karnataka Chief Minister Siddaramaiah today termed opposition to it as a "conspiracy" by RSS and other communal forces to disturb harmony in society.

Several organisations and individuals have opposed the state government's move to celebrate Tipu Sultan Jayanti on November 10, with a few threatening to disrupt the first- ever such government celebration.

"The opposition (to Tipu Jayanti) is an attempt by communal forces; ...Tipu Sultan was secular, he fought against British in three wars, in a sense our freedom struggle began with Mysore wars- between English and Tipu," Siddaramaiah said.

Speaking to reporters here, he said, "He (Tipu) being called a fanatic or claims that he converted Hindus is baseless. He didn't do any such thing, instead he contributed to Sringeri Mutt, Nanjanagudu and Ranganatha Swami Temples. Only a secular person can do it. So, government has decided to celebrate Tipu Sultan Jayanti."

Tipu was a ruler of the erstwhile kingdom of Mysore, who was considered an implacable enemy of the British East India Company. He was killed in May 1799 while defending his fort of Srirangapatna against the British forces.

Stating that Opposition is raising such issues without having any other issue to confront the government, Siddaramaiah said, "Tipu Sultan Jayanti should have been celebrated by government long ago, it has got delayed. This is a conspiracy by RSS and other communal forces. It is an attempt to disturb harmony in society."

Calling Tipu as "the most intolerant ruler," RSS had yesterday said it would lend its support to protests against event.

"Majority of the people are opposed to it - Tipu was the ruler of Mysore - it's okay, but at the same time he was the most intolerant king. It has been recorded by history, not by RSS. On his sword it is clearly mentioned, it is meant to kill kafirs," Kshetreeya Sanghachalak of RSS for Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Telangana, V Nagaraj had said.

Veteran Kannada writer, researcher and historian M Chidananda Murthy said government's move to celebrate Tippu Jayanti has to be condemned.

Murthy had earlier opposed the proposal to name a university in Srirangapatna after Tipu Sultan, calling him "anti-Hindu, anti-Kannada".
  

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  • Kiran.M, mangalore

    Wed, Nov 11 2015

    When there is so much of oppose to celebrate his tippu jayanthi...why niddheramayya so much in interest in this ..anna appi thaapi mlore airport suddi ge barrbedi....

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  • Adolf, Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    Dear readers,

    Lot of comments regarding celebration of Tippu Jayanti.

    Those who want to celebrate, let them celebrate it after all it’s only a day. It’s like today we fight and tomorrow we forget. This is all a conspiracy to create conflict between Hindus, Christian and Muslims. What you all think that CM Siddaramaiah doesn’t know what Tippu had done? He know everything.

    Remember “United we stand, Divide we fall”

    British used this policy. They divided the Hindu and the Muslims so that it will be easy for them to implement rules. Same way our politicians also try to divide. Do whatever you want to do and eat whatever you want to eat. I don’t support any political party… I believe everyone who comes to power are the same.

    Think who will benefit out of these issues? If there is conflict between people, we need extra man power to control… for that you need extra money and how do government try to get money i.e. by tax. Follow the money, if we do good we have to pay tax and if we do bad we have to pay fine. Who benefits? The Government correct?

    I am a Christian… married a Hindu and I have Muslim friends too… I am not commenting in favor of any cast, community or religion.

    R.I.P Tippu Sultan - lets forgive him for whatever he has done.

    Thanks.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    Dear Adolf,
    Forgetting is a different matter.
    Politicians are using him to divide the communities is well understood.
    But this is the matter of celebrating butcher Tipu Jayanti!
    But we must speak from heart, speak against injustice done!
    Did Lord Jesus Christ, while on this earth not spoke against people doing wrong?

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    Terrorist Tipu Sultan was Barbarian, Cruel and Brutal Ruler, Murderer of Millions of South Indian Hindus, christian's and other community people. Most of his life as Sultan of Mysore was spent in Kerala, waging wars of territorial annexation and Islamic conversions.
    It was Tipu Sultan and his fanatic Muslim army who converted thousands of Hindus and christian's to Islam all along the invasion route and occupied areas in North Kerala, Coorg, Mangalore, and other parts of Karnataka. Besides over 8,000 Hindu temples were desecrated and/or destroyed by his army. Even today, one can see large concentrations of Muslims and ruins of hundreds of destroyed temples in North Kerala as standing evidence of the brutalities committed by Tipu Sultan … He was, all through, waging a cruel war against the Hindu population of Kerala, with a large Muslim army and ably assisted by the French with powerful field guns and European troops. In spite of all this, historical documents and records are being suppressed, distorted, and falsified in order to project this fanatic terrorist Tipu Sultan of Mysore as a national hero. Shame shame shame

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    Dear ER,
    Most of your writings are true, except some.
    Yes he got French weapons,Even Pak, ISIS has European, Chinese weapons.
    But European troops were never took part in his his army, they always played their role independently.
    Had it been so, French siding Tipu would have fought with British! Get your facts and logic right my dear.

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  • ER, Mangalore

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    Valerian what i stated is right you need to revisit the history of Tippu . Frech used him as proxy to fight British by supplying guns and armaments.

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  • readerwriter007, pune

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    I could read a lot of comments opposing the decision to introduce Tippu Jayanthi. Yes, not a personality to go for this extreme step of declaring a Jayanthi as we have for our father of nation. But no wonder , with this Congress Govt which just survives with the Muslim vote bank, anything may happen. We may get to see "Akbar Jayanthi", "shahjahan Jayanthi", "Humayun Jayanthi"...etc etc. Shameless politics, politicians go to any extreme.... very sad to see ourselves in this helpless condition...

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  • G M Hegde, Udupi

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    What is the difference between Congress and BJP. Both divide and rule. One sows the seeds of hatred, the other reaps the crop. Both are not an option. Sad that no progressive regional party is born in Karnataka.

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  • Peter Lewis, Kalmady/Udupi

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    Please do not play cheap politics. 99.9 percent non muslims not agree for Tippu birthday celebration. He faught against British is true but he slaughter thousands of non muslims of this Country.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    Just by opposing British for his own survival is not patriotism.
    He sided with French against British.
    He used his power and might only to destroy /kill his unarmed subjects, mainly Christians and many Hindus. Facts were told by our own ancestors, moreover available in Wikipedia as well.

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  • Ted, Udupi

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    Tipu sultan was solely responsible for the destruction of hundreds of temples and churches throughout the coastal belt, right from karwar to cochin. He forcibly converted people to Islam, and the ones who objected were slaughtered to death and their wives and daughters given to his loyals as sex slaves.

    I strongly recommend that every trace of Tipu's history be erased from the history of Mankind.

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    When we look at the intolerant religions, Hinduism is the most tolerant religion among major religions of the world.

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  • Wilson DSouza, Paladka

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    It's very sad that politicians these days don't have enough time to read history properly. Tippu was no way secular, instead wanted to establish Islamic state. He donated to temples or spared some churches from destruction only for his personal reasons. True he wanted to defeat British but with the support of French !!! He can't be called freedom fighter as there was no concept of Indian Independence at that time. Further he was the son of Hyder Ali who cunningly got power sidelining Wodeyars. After beef and Tippu remark, I really pity for this CM !!!

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  • vivek, Hirebile/ Abu Dhabi

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Tippu better as A legend....but Remembering him now is Really Political.....He killed every other Christian because doubting that They are close to British.....is he Not communal then????

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  • Alee, Mysore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Mr.Chief Minister... Respect Sir

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    I REALLY PITY ON THIS CHEAP MINISTER ????

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  • shammi, karnataka

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Wah !kya baat hain.Lajawab!!!intolerance ka jawab intolerance se.RSS feels the burns on their sense organs now.
    Kaapadappa kaapadu.

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  • G M Hegde, Udupi

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    This is a conspiracy by upper caste Muslims including a politician of Mysore who boasts of lineage of Tipu sultan and Iran. And the government has bowed to appease him and his vote bank. Indian Muslims are not at all descendants of Iran. They are part of us and should not fall into this conspiracy of a few upper castes. Instead pray worship the Almighty.

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  • ash, mnglr

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    MUSLIM DONT HAVE CASTE

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  • R Mallar, Kasaragod/ Dubai

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Is the mark of Tipu's sword in Madhur temple creation of RSS? The display board is there ever since I remember and Madhur temple is administered by representatives of "secular" UDF/ LDF.
    How come the forts built by Ikkery Nayakas became Sultan Batteri? Truely secular?
    Tipu is a freedom fighter by default. His collaboration with French did not work - it is as simple as that.

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  • Ahmed, Bangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    History is unkind to Tipu Sultan. The fact is that Tipu cannot be reduced to a singular narrative or tradition of intolerance or bigotry as he represented multiple traditions. He combined tolerant inter-religious traditions, liberal and secular traditions, anti-colonialism and internationalism. He could do this as he had strong roots in Sufism, which is not explored much by historians. He belonged to the Chisti/Bande Nawaz tradition of Sufism.

    In fact, Tipu was radical in more than one sense. He was the first to ban consumption of alcohol in the entire State, not on religious grounds, but on moral and health grounds. He went to the extent of saying: “A total prohibition is very near to my heart.” He is credited with introducing missile or rocket technology in war. He was the first to introduce sericulture to the then Mysore state. He was the first to confiscate the property of upper castes, including Mutts, and distribute it among the Shudras. He is also credited with sowing the seeds of capitalist development at a time when the country was completely feudal. He thought about constructing a dam across the Cauvery in the present-day location of Krishnaraja Sagar. He completed the task of establishing a biodiversity garden named Lal Bagh.

    His tolerance is reflected in his annual grants to no less than 156 temples, which included land deeds and jewellery. His army was largely composed of Shudras. When the famed Sringeri Mutt, established by Shankaracharya, was invaded by the Maratha army, he issued a firman to provide financial assistance for reinstallation of the holy idol and restoring the tradition of worship at the Mutt. His donation to the famous Srikanteshwara temple at Nanjangud the donation of 10,000 gold coins to complete temple work at Kanchi settling the disputes between two sects of priests at the Melkote temple and gifts to Lakshmikanta temple at Kalale are all well-known. Interestingly, Srirangapatna, a temple town, remained his permanent capital

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Can NEVER, never accept Tipu Sultan as a great King.
    Biggest butcher ever, real holocaust of Christians in the history of India!
    He destroyed Christians like Hitler destroyed Jews!
    If Sanghis are to be called promoting intolerance, Tipu was 1000 times more intolerant than them.
    Sanghis intolerance is nothing in comparison to Tipu. We have right to oppose their policies, we can very well co-exist with difference!

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  • KRPrabhu, B'luru

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Dear Valerian,inspire of criticism aganst we Hindus,are known for tolerance ,proved and history is proof and even today we live in harmony in entire country.If go to villages more particularly for example our own undecided DK ,it is excellent.Sonia's intolerance is borne out of her love for Nehruvian philosophy of communalism.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Dear Prabhu,
    I have never ever said Hindu's are intolerant.
    We lived together for generations with or without difference. Sometimes with agreements in many things as well.
    Political or ideological difference in some points, with some, sometimes is a different matter.
    It's bound to be there, we have to live with that. There can never be perfect harmony in this world at all times.
    Biggest cruelty was destruction of humanity, just for difference in faith and on doubts.

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  • John Tauro, M'luru / Kwt

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Tipu’s intolerance is history. Today's intolerance is being promoted by some communal organisations for which we can't entirely blame the Govt. The Govt. should sever ties with such forces and stop patronising them. Still I believe there is greater tolerance in India compared to our neighbouring countries. In India at least one is free to talk about issues like secularism and intolerance whereas in countries like Pakistan one will be easily charged with blasphemy if ever he dares to utter the word “intolerance.”

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  • KRPrabhu, B'luru

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Today the word intolerance doing rounds created by Congress/ Sonia more particularly with fear that Nehru dynasty will see the end in future.This cant be tolerated by feke Gandhi's of today.So engaged in anti national activities.Yesterday's march to Rastrapathi bhavan by Anupam Kher is a good exercise to counter the psuedo intellectual returning awards.

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  • Frank, Bangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Valerian, dont get swayed. Christians who sided with the Britishers were dealt with the land of the law. Punishment of treachery to the state cannot be termed as communal. Tipu would have himself killed any muslim were he to go against the king and support the british.

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  • Valerian D'souza, Udupi / Mumbai

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Frank,
    Don't know who are your ancestors and can't praise a king who butchered my ancestors. He didn't spare women and Children!
    I don't have deceivers blood so obviously my ancestors also wouldn't have.
    If somebody says Indian Muslims are siding Pakistan, will you believe and start punishing them?
    What you had to say when SRK was accused as Pakistani sympathizer?

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  • PEDDU, MANGALURU

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    mr.valerian GIVEN A TIGHT SLAP ON THE FACE OF HYPOCRITES

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  • Lawrence, USA

    Mon, Nov 09 2015

    @Frank, a few rich Christians who might have sided with British for their personal gain. How logical it was to kill all the Christians, poor, women and children for the wrong doing of a few.

    Please get your logic straight.

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  • samadkolnad, vitla

    Tue, Nov 10 2015

    you are 100% right.indeed he aws against nawabs and kings of kaurnool he punished them stringently..even though they are muslims..
    people should know the truth..

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  • For Justice, Abu Dhabi / Ubar

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Whoever claiming that Tippu killed n converted Catholics ask your Lobo Maam to resign n protest against it.

    This is Sangh agenda to malign the great King of Mysore tiger Tippu Sultan who fought against the British for India's free freedom struggle and had secular governance.Don't fall prey on anti national's trap.

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  • sri, Karkala

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Personally I oppose the celebration of tippu jayanthi. If we see history he and his father defeated Mysore rajas and wanted to make Muslim state. He was against marata kings and helped British to defeat maratas. Finally he got killed by British. Congress government should have some better job to do.

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  • Lawrence, USA

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    What is the difference in celebrating Hitler's birthday and Tippu's birthday? The former had selectively killed innocent Jews and latter has killed innocent Christians.

    Why it is so important to Siddu to celebrate Tippu's birthday? Appeasing Muslim voters? Why can't we celebrate the birthday of Harekal Hajabba?

    I am not RSS supporter. I am a secular. I respectfully hang Hajabba's portrait on my walls, but not Tippu's.

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  • For Justice, Abu Dhabi / Ubar

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Anti nationals only looking for killer of the nation's father Godse & not the first ever freedom fighter as well as pure secular king Tippu Sultan.

    Jealousy got no medicine....

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  • RDsouza, Mangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    You are right Mr KP Prabhu, Tippu was a Persecutor of Mangalorean Catholics.“Tipu Sultan also destroyed many Catholic churches when he invaded Mangalore. Colonial historians have projected Tipu as a “religious bigot”, who was instrumental in killing and converting to Islam thousands of Nayars of Kerala, Catholics of Dakshina Kannada and Coorgis of Kodagu. Even Kannada chauvinists have projected him as anti-Kannadiga

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  • Wilma Serrao, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Can anyone advice this party which cannot rule by deviding people, making heroes who have committed crimes on Humanity. This is great disservice to humanity, for the true voters by Congress party. I am against this celebration, hope Christians rise up to voice their dissent.

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  • William A Serrao, Mangalore/Bangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Just losing hopes on Congress which is playing with fire. Just hopeless, i have decided to get rid of this party which is so communal , can do anything for votes. It's just insult to Christians.

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  • KRPrabhu, B'luru

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    He must build Tippu statute in Nettarakere place near Parangipet in memory of legendary king.Here Tippu butchered sixty thousand Christians.

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  • RK, Kinnigoli/Dubai

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Sadly Siddu got poor marks in History.

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  • Jossey Saldanha, Mumbai

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Tipu & Natu are two sides of the same coin ...

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  • santhosh, Mangaluru

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Nothing better to do Mr. Siddhu?

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  • Krishna, karkala

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    .Tipu Sultan was secular, he fought against British in three wars, ''''' Siddu

    Aurangajeb, Gajani Mohamad, Shahajan also fought against Mughals.
    Please celebrate birthday Lord Mount Batton,Waran Hasting's and all Mughal rulers.

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  • HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    I am fed up of BJP now. Who cares if tipu was national or anti national now.No talks about development, economy, black money, corruption. Only such news are being created to divert the attention of India's public

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  • Naveed, Mang

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    The against is only for tippu being a Muslim he was the one who helped sringeri matt from Marathas and these people support Maratha who wanted to loot sringeri matt because he is a Hindu Today tippu may be Tomorrow kalaam Saniya Mirza zaheer khan u t khader

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  • T.Dsilva, Udupi

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Mr. Siddu defending Tippu Jayanti celebration shows his stupidity.
    Tippu's father was also an outsider and Tippu tried to defend his kingdom, asked even Turkish rulers help and used French support.He was responsible for torture and murder of christians and even not spared women and children. He was a Cruel dictator and his fights are only selfish. Better not to celebrate this butcher birthday, nidderamaiah.

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  • bk fayaz, mangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    If you have one historian m chinanada murty as anti tipu sultan their are 100 of historian ho sad tipu is a secular if he was not secular his 80% of him army would not
    be hindus and all of his minister where also hindus ? Tomorrow if there's a war between india Pakistan of any of india Muslim how takes Pakistan side he should be called gadar and he has to be hanged
    and regarding rss they dont have any respect to MAHATMA GANDHI what can we expect from such people

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  • RDsouza, Mangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    Mangaloreans please remember that Tippu was a Persecutor of Mangalorean Catholics.“Tipu Sultanalso destroyed many Catholic churches when he invaded Mangalore!
    Colonial historians have projected Tipu as a “religious bigot”, who was instrumental in killing and converting to Islam thousands of Nayars of Kerala, Catholics of Dakshina Kannada and Coorgis of Kodagu. Even Kannada chauvinists have projected him as anti-Kannadiga

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  • JayaPrakash Shetty, Mangalore/UK

    Sat, Nov 07 2015

    As per TOI report one of the Christian Association has also put forward opposition to celebrate tipu birth annivarasry. Are they connected with RSS?

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  • Zeitgeist, Mangalore

    Sun, Nov 08 2015

    What the govt has done is that they have complete disregard to one community against who this proclaimed ''patriot'' committed atrocities.

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  • Swamy, Mangalore

    Sat, Nov 07 2015

    RSS-BJP get Burnol in bulk this is going to be everlasting itch and burn. How is it now you define intolerance with deep meaning and with example. Earlier you didn't understand what is intolerance. Hurting is it?!?!?!.

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