Goa deputy CM Francis D'Souza apologises for Hindu nation remark

Mon, Jul 28 2014 06:46:52 PM

Panaji, Jul 28 (IANS): Goa's Deputy Chief Minister Francis D'Souza Monday apologized for his comment that India was already a Hindu nation.

"My opinion could be wrong for others. I accept it. I don't say it is the most correct opinion. You might say I am wrong. If anyone's sentiment is hurt, I apologise," D'Souza said.

"Hindu is my culture, Christianity is my religion. When I say Hindu, it means culture and not religion. Hindu culture is 5,000 years old and my religion is 2,000 years old," D'Souza said.

D'Souza said Friday: "India is a Hindu country. It is Hindustan. All Indians in Hindustan are Hindus, including me, I am a Christian Hindu."

His comments triggered an uproar in the national media and on the political scene. The opposition asked the Goa Roman Catholic Church to excommunicate him for committing heresy.

D'Souza is one of the senior-most minority members of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in Goa and has been the party's poster-boy as far as the Christian community is concerned.

Christians account for nearly 26 percent of the state's population.

India is already a Hindu nation: Goa deputy CM Francis D'Souza

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Alban D Souza, Udyavara (Bajjodi) Mumbai Doha Qatar
Thu, Jul 31 2014
What is said is already said but what is the use of apologizing now? One should think before expose anything to the public. Now what is the use of changing the words. These kind of irresponsible remarks should not be spoken public, it may create disharmony in society. So the political leaders please careful when make remarks like this . any way now that the leader appolised is a good sign and example for others. Care to be taken in future.

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Sam, Udupi
Wed, Jul 30 2014
This Man Mr.Francis D'Souza is confused whether he is a Christian or Hindu..anyways he has no knowledge about both.in simple means he has lost his common sense. so he is ,making different statements daily..tomorrow he might tell :" I am a Christian Muslim Hindu.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Wed, Jul 30 2014
Dear vasu India,
I quote yours: However, when a faith is forced on people then it becomes a religion and faith is nothing but a sword. Unquote.

Exactly Deputy chief Minister Francis D'Souza feeling the heat/realized to be with bjp he must change his faith or support Hindu way of life. He feels to be in bjp he must keep hindus faith in close relations.

Church doesn't care for unfaithful people.
We need holiness in the church to sustain.

Can you kindly explain what were you in your previous life in the Hindu way of life. How does life came into existence in this world through chimpanzees, monkeys through crows or through cows as per way of life and from your karma and dharma. If that is the case what is the necessity Brahma.

Kindly explain.

Concerning to St. Paul: He was a wicked man persecuting the church. Similar to Graham stain's killer turned to the faith of Jesus. After Paul's conversion to the truthful faith of Jesus he utilized spiritual sword and not a material sword as you specify and see in the Christian faith.( I quote Ephesians 6: 17 And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: unquote) St. Paul walked righteously, truthfully and in a lawful ways. Only after his conversion from wicked ways to the faith of Jesus.
Wait for Jesus coming again….

Finally Paul died as a Martyr/very painful death he experienced for the sake of the Faith of Jesus.

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PRABHU, Blore
Wed, Jul 30 2014
"Similar to Graham stain's killer turned to the faith of Jesus ?"
You mean Dara Singh !
Where did you get this joseph ?

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Lawreence, Mumbai
Tue, Jul 29 2014
The Church history tells many rebelled against the church but in the end the church buried them all in the church cemetery forgetting no matter what they did.

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A.prabhu, Mlore
Wed, Jul 30 2014
Lawrence bombay,
Please be advised , read history and you will come to know in the holy wars, the inquisition and the crusades ypthe church killed more the Hitler did by the way Hitler killed more than 6 million jews !

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vasu, India
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Prabhu, thank you. I do understand what faith is and I agree with you on the definition provided. However, when a faith is forced on people then it becomes a religion and faith is nothing but a sword. In the same fashion, if you have a specific faith that is unique to you where you get solace from it and don't preach it to anyone then it becomes your truth or dharma. So this dharma is the guiding light that is inclusive of you, your belief and the path you follow. No two dharma's can be the same, it could be alike. It is as unique as ones mind. Please note the word dharma here has not reference to anything 'Hindu'. It is just a word to define the absolute truth which anyone can perceive.

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Prabhu, Blore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Thanks VASU
BUT YOU HAVE NOT YET ELABORATED WHAT YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID ""DECIDED TO USE JESUS TO CREATE CHRISTIANITY ""
And which book are you referring to ?

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vasu, India
Tue, Jul 29 2014
The same book that your god wrote. If you understand the timeline between the death of Jesus and the start of Christianity you will see the gap. For your understanding, Jesus did not start the Church or religion. His name that was well known way past his death was then utilized . Read the book of acts. In any case I am more interested in 300 BC about Chandra gupta maurya and his eventual end of life journey into Shravanabelagola that is of historic value to 'Hindu' the topic here as opposed to your agenda. Start reading indian History and culture instead of mis representing John or Paul.

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Prabhu, Blore
Wed, Jul 30 2014
VASU, SINCE WE ARE AT IT YOU MEAN IF A PERSON IS AT PEACE WITH HIMSELF( he has to be at peace with others too ) is a good human being , shuns all religion knowing its man made, has he attained his Dharma ?
In other words does he have to believe or have faith in God or any religion to achieve this ?

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vasu, India
Wed, Jul 30 2014
Prabhu, with a christian frame of mind it is not possible to understand what Dharma or Truth is. Get a hold of yourself first. I see where you are going but don't want to goad you any further.
It is not about any battle here about one faith being better than the other. It is about forgetting your fundamental dharma or being a Hindu or Indian and seeing allegiance to a borrowed faith.

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Prabhu, Blore
Wed, Jul 30 2014
Dear Vasu,
I don't agree that i have a Christian frame of mind as the facts unravelled and the truth which was exposed brought out Logic into the matter and on applying logic everything became crystal clear that most of these things are made up.
The books which apply are bound together and the books that don't are discarded.
Now the books discarded might hold more info and may be true than the books chosen.
The flaws, errors and the omissions & additions don't speak up much to support the text.
A deep probe into it will expose the truth.
Its true what you said i am sailing into disbelief as new truth pour in.
Nice to have known you will look into 300 bc on the net.

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vasu, India
Tue, Jul 29 2014
You are wrong. Jesus did not create or start a church. It started 300 years after so called Jesus crucifixion and resurrection by Constantine. You may have to read more on the Christian Church at pentecost.
I think a lot of people have read the book, however it seems to me that you have read it incorrectly.

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Prabhu, Blore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Vasu can you elaborate on the inverted text...........quote....
Joseph, a couple of corrections. Christianity 'IS' a religion. You are right that Jesus did not create a religion. It was a few hundred years later some folks decided to "use Jesus to create Christianity." Unqoute

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Dear vasu, India,
You are seeing on a material ground. The faith in Jesus was not found on material ground but on spiritual ground the spiritual faithful people.

CHURCH MEANS IT IS NOT BIG, BIG BUILDINGS. CHURCH = WE THE FAITHFUL PEOPLE OF JESUS CHRIST. CHURCHES WERE BUILT ONLY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE FROM SUN, RAIN AND FROM WINTER AND FROM EXTREME WIND. OTHERWISE BIG, BIG, BUILDINGS ARE NOT IMPERATIVE/NECESSARY/REQUIRED. A TENT FOR THE SUN OR A PRAYER HALL IS ALSO SUFFICIENT.

Jesus was a spiritual leader on this earth. He taught spiritual matters to enter into heaven. Jesus built the church on a strong foundation that is the faithful people of Jesus Christ.

Constantine was a king and he was also the part of the church(church=people.)

I quote Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Unquote.

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Felix, Belman
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Nonsense, there is no word called Hindu Christian or Hindu Muslim. Of course we follow and adopt Indian culture, but not Hindu culture... For example, wearing a Saari is not a Hindu culture it is Indian culture. There are so many different cultures in India also depend upon our ethnic or linguistic entity. Goans Christians are the only people in India who don’t follow Indian culture. They are proud to be called Portuguese.

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Vivek Shetty, India
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Felix, it is not that you adopted the Indian culture. It is the other way around, you have adopted the christian religion. Indian culture is what you and your forefathers already had.

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victor, Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Since Church is not a religion,people of all religions, caste,creed and without religions are welcome to the Church. Always people have come to the fold of the church remaining true to only right Indian culture. So in this background what the minister said is right, if he is not deceptive in his motive,and a open challenge to the fanatics who strive to restrict religious freedom of people in the name of protecting culture and Religion. But anyone can walk out from the Church without any consequences of being beaten. CHURCH NEEDS QUALITY NOT QUANTITY.After all Christians must be proud of being Indians as many are and they must preach Jesus more through their actions of love rather than only comments of anguish and hatred. Jesus said by your fruits the world will know me.

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Chandrashekar, Mangalore/Mumbai
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Hi,
Don't worry, we are all human beings. World peace and individual peace can be accomplished simultaneously.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
I said Jesus did not made a religion. Jesus founded a church. CHURCH = WE THE PEOPLE FAITHFUL IN JESUS CHRIST SON OF THE LIVING GOD.
I quote Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

We are called Maseehiah, Messiah=anointed one Christ, followers of Christ were all called as Christians. We worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who was prior to the beginning of this world and universe.
The was given to Jesus was Emmanuel which means GOD WITH US. Jesus was called in Aramaic and in Hebrew yehshuwa, in kannada Yesu, in Arabic Issa/Essa

We Christians call the name of God in different languages.

For God in Hindi, Parameshwar, Eeshwar,

We Christians call the name of God in different languages in different names such as:

in Greek-Theos,
In German- Gott,
German Old - Diet,
In English - God,
Norweign - Gud,
Dutch - Godt,
French - Dieu,
Latin - Deus, etc., etc.,

In Arabic Christians call the name of God Allah.

Muslims call the name of their worshiping deity Allah in all the languages.

As some one commentator earlier pointed out if you see any translated book of Quran you will find the name of Islamic deity only Allah.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Corrected Message:

Now: The name was given to Jesus was Emmanuel which means GOD WITH US.

(before: The was given to Jesus was Emmanuel which means GOD WITH US.)

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Amin Bhoja, Patte / Riyadh
Tue, Jul 29 2014
He want to please his boss.'Hum kise Se Kum Nahin'.

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RJ Roshan, Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
who made him CM...every day one one statement...
tomorrow he might say this is not India ...this is Goa...
a culprit...pard amal jathiga pand...

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
The devils in this world and the humans of this world can never overthrow the church built by Jesus Christ. Those trying to derail are out of mind and are only deluded.

I quote Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Unquote.

MANY HAVE TRIED AND ARE STILL TRYING TO DERAIL THE CHURCH BUT GROWING STRONGER AND STRONGER DAY BY DAY.

HALLELUJAH, PRAISE BE TO GOD AND HIS NAME BE GLORIFIED. AMEN.

THE CHURCH SHOULD NOT THINK OF NUMBERS BUT THE HOLINESS AND SPIRITUALITY IN THE CHURCH IS MUST. THOSE DELUDED ARE BETTER TO GO OUT OR THE CHURCH SHOULD EXPEL THEM FROM THE CHURCH SO AS TO KEEP THE SANCTITY, PURITY AND HOLINESS OF THE CHURCH.

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Jayanth, Bangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Who is trying to derail the church ?

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A.M Shaikh, Dubai, Belapu, Kaup
Tue, Jul 29 2014
AB AAYA OONT PAHAD KE NICHE
BESHARAM POLITICIAN.

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Manu, Muskat
Tue, Jul 29 2014
This DCM neither knows properly about Christianity nor about Hinduism. he is one candidate for Chaddi religion!

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Ashok, Mumbai
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Dress mera Angrezi,Khana mera porthugese,Khana mera sausages and drink mera Goa feni and language mera konkani/ Portugese fir bi mai hindu stani

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Anilkumar, Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
this joker minister thinks that just because his name is Francis Dsouza, he has a right to talk about Christians in general. He is no doubt a "hired Christian" by BJP for attracting votes. But he should not get into sentiments of Christians by making statements like this. His apology has no meaning when he has already done the damage. It only shows the cheap tactics used by politicians to lick the a....... of their party bosses for personal gains.

All Christians are required to boycott such cheap politicians.

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victor, Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
As you said Christianity was not founded by Lord Jesus. But He found the Church: PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP GOD ACCORDING TO HIS WILL,LIVING LIFE ACCORDING TO HIS WORDS IN JESUS CHRIST.The Bible does not say that we must follow a religion.rather it says,that every one must follow Him.The VEDAS SAY THAT By the blood of Christ alone can human beings be saved for eternal life. Secondly, I wonder How can one love CHRIST and cannot love his brothers and sisters love of God is equal to neighbor's love.It is against the teachings of Christ.Thirdly,Christians who are name sake will not be saved unless repent and b changed and make efforts to live the life of Christ.

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Dear Mr. victor, mangalore I quote yours: The VEDAS SAY THAT By the blood of Christ alone can human beings be saved for eternal life. Unquote.

THE VEDAS PREDICT ABOUT JESUS IN FEW VERSES WHICH MEANS JESUS WAS EXISTED PRIOR OT VEDAS.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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Jayanth, Bangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Please do not build false pyramids. It is established by even western christian scholars that Vedas, Buddhism , Jainism and Parsi belong to Before christ (BC).

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
DEAR Jayanth, Bangalore,

HE WHO WAS IN HEAVEN WAS WAS PRIOR TO ANY JAIN, HINDU, BUDDHIST WHO WERE SPROUTED ON THIS WORLD/EARTH.

I QUOTE: John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath I am from above: ye are of this world I am not of this world.Unquote.

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vedaasthuthi, udupi
Wed, Jul 30 2014
Dear Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Jesus was a great personality like Shri Ram/Shri Krishna who followed dharma. for your kind info all these names are not found in "VEDAS".
Dhanyavad

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Dolfus, Bangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Whoever resides in India / Hinusthan / Bharath called as Indian / Hindusthani / Bharathiya. What does it matters which religion you belong. It's your nationality after all. Then why hue and cry about this?

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Amin Bhoja, Patte / Riyadh
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Don't believe these politicians, they change their colour frequently to the surroundings like Chameleons, it is the trend mostly !!!

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Af, mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Boneless tongue can be twisted anywhere.

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jr,
Tue, Jul 29 2014
GOA DY.CM MR.D'SOUZA IS RIGHT BECAUSE HE DON'T WANT TO DEVIDE PEOPLE ON RELIGION FOR POLITRICS LIKE CONGRESS BUT TO TAKE HIS COMMUNITY ON THE PATH OF GROWTH & DEVELOPMENT.

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ZAMEER, UDIPI
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Goa's big mouthed eshwarappa say anything

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A.M Shaikh, Dubai, Belapu, Kaup
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Zameer Bhai,
This matter is D'souza not Eeshvarappa. Don't bring unnecessary innocent peoples.

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G.M.Hegde, Udupi
Tue, Jul 29 2014
I.do.not.know.what.is.wrong.in.his.remark.It.is.the.truth.unless.ego.and.highhandedness.which.makes.some.believe. that.they.are.Portuguese..The.Konkani.language.would.not.have.been.such.a.popular.language.then.and.may.answer. this.question.rightly.....

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Ahmed, Udupi/Dubai
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Mr. Hegde you are right. All the Indians are hindus. That's why we are HINDUSTHANIS. There is no doubt about it. Regarding religion I think there is no religion called Hindu religion. It's "SANATHANA DHARMA" the way of living. For some people it's very hard to digest.

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Krishna Kant, Mangalore/Moodbidri
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU TOO WERE BEEN CONVERTED BY SOME RELIGIOUS GROUP, THAT IS WHY YOU FIGURE OUT EVERYONE THE SAME.

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Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
KRISHNA,

I HAVE DOUBT ON YOU.......100 PERCENT!!!

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joe Gonsalves, Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
I have read with considerable interest Mr. Francis D'Souza's apology and also some of the comments from people.

Mr. D'Souza has relented and tendered his apology.

One can make a mistake but when recognizes that he is right in his statements one should graciously accept his version.

Is there any one among us who has not make a mistake?

Joe Gonsalves

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maxy,, kinnigoly/ mumbai
Tue, Jul 29 2014
i strongly feel that this apology is political correct to please his vote bank.`first create a problem/controversy then solve/apologize & achieve your target`politics is all about this.i still feel like GALILEO apology to pope he may be whispering".....around sun".

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Maria Rodrigues, Mangalore/USA
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Why has Indians we waste time in religion. Chinese GDP is almost surpassing America's and we are in India discussing religion and trying to destroy good politicians.

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Rahul Kumar, Mangalore/USA
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Why is Christianity not a religion ? It is one of the largest religion of the world.

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nazeer husain, jeddah saudi arabia
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Finally goan minister wake up.Respect for Hinduism or any faith is fine.But the breathing of India is secularism or non religious identity.If sick doctors like thogadia,kalladka,or any chaddi leaders of coastal districts say like this ,nobody will bother.Minister means constitutional post and they cant speak unconstitutional.

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Stany D'sa, Balehonnur/Dubai
Tue, Jul 29 2014
This man is purely a fanatic and filled with satanic ideas and given the rope he will divide India into pieces.

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Louis Maxim, Udupi/Kuwait
Tue, Jul 29 2014
I don't find any mistake in what Mr. Francis D'Souza has said earlier. All Christian in India follow Hindu Sanscrathi (Indian Culture) though our faith is in Jesus (Christianity) There are religions of Roman Catholics, Protestants, Syrians,Orthodox etc. I don't find anything objectionable to church. He has given a diplomatic answer to fanatics. Jore ka jhatka dhire se laga. Our habits are Indian, our food is Indian, our clothes, our languages. In few days BJP will change it's name to Hindustan Janatha Party. Please close this issue. No need to challenge him just bcz he is in BJP. That is his choice, he has that being a Hindustani.

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Neil, Mumbai
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Nominate him for Bharat Ratna!

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Ralph Pinto, Udupi
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Why not a Doctorate ? Universities in India award free Doctorates at the of a hat. The recent being Dayananda Pai, Builder, Bangalore.

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Agnel, Udupi
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Before commenting anything, we must know this. Paul's letter to the COLOSSIAN, 1.15-20. Christ is the visible likeness of the invisible God. He is the first born son. Superior to all created things. For through him God created everything in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers and authorities. God created the whole universe through him and for him. Christ existed before all things and in union with him all things have their proper place. He is the head of his body, the church: he is the source of the body's life. He is the first born son, who was raised from death in order that he alone might have the first place in all things. for it was by Gods own decision that the son has in himself the full nature of God. Through the son then God decided to bring the whole universe back to himself. God made peace through his son's sacrificial death on the cross and so brought back to himself all things both on earth and in heaven.

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ravigopla acharya, Udupi Dubai
Mon, Jul 28 2014
shame on him. Did he fill his nomination for the election as a Hindu Christian?.It is just a game to survive in politics and nothing else. No point in apologizes now and what for it is.

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alfred, mumbai
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Was this fellow under the influence of liquor when he made this statement or else the chaddis had threatened him to throw him out if statement not given.Either way this fellow is disgrace to all and everybody should just boycott him.
Satta ke liye kuch bhi karenga.

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Brhamanda, Ujjere
Mon, Jul 28 2014
I see most of the responses from non christian stating that his statement was fine. It seems to me that the Christians here find the word Hindu blasphemous. A mere uttarance spews hatered. I think this is somthing that is tacitly instilled in their minds. This mentality can never be changed. It has become a common rule to blame Hindu as a religion for something that some sangh or group does. That needs to stop. Using Hindu loosely should not be tolerated and I mean the geological context associated to it. Belief wise the Hindu is never worried.

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ravi, belman
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Goa deputy CM Francis D'Souza is right in his words to Hindustan

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Mann, bangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Actually all these gimmicks are created just to divert the minds of the public from real, serious issues of the nation, by the present government. Recently some issues regarding religion are cropped up by some people unnecessarily.
We will be better off not to heed these instances and rightly discuss little about them.

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tony francis, Udupi
Mon, Jul 28 2014
These politicians can betray anyone for their own benefits - they are making us public,FOOLS !

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kuldesh, bangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
majority of the population of india are called hindus.but they should be called "sanatana dharmis" who follow "sanatana dharma' which is 5000 years old and the worlds first organised relegion.hindu is a name given by britishers as sanatana dharmis live to the south of the hindu kush mountains of afghanistan.in fact in all the vedas and holy book of hindus(so called) there is nothing the name as hindu but sanatna dharma.so calling hindus or non hindus of the people living to south of the hindukush mountains does not concern hindus as we are sanatana dharmis.matter closed

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ravi, belman
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Hats off to Mr D'souza revealing known truth but seems here some Christians hate truth by default!!
may people opt conversion back to original religion so we can rebuild the lost glory to 'Hindustan'..jai hind

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Peter Lewis, Kalmady/k s a
Mon, Jul 28 2014
The greatness of Christians and Hindus were shares equal opportunities on Gender bias.

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Justin Lobo, Bangalore KSA
Mon, Jul 28 2014
@ chief minister Francis D'Souza, i am saved by Jesus from worshiping gods, goddesses, idols and images.

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Pramod, Kundapura
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Satya helid avarige badigenu jaasti!

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GILBERT, MANGALORE
Mon, Jul 28 2014
HOW INDIAN CAN CONTROLLED BY ROMAN .....WHY WE CANT SAY THAT WE ARE INDIAN CATHOLICS OR INDIAN
CHRISTIANS .... GOVERNMENT SHOULD LOOK ON THESE MATTER

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P.Lobo, Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Most CRAZZZZZY Comments,only Mentally ill person can make such comments mixing Religion and Politics.

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Rosario Fernandes, kallianpur
Mon, Jul 28 2014
In other words, D'Souza does not follow Christian culture. Church
should keep distance from him or he will damage young Indian Christian culture.
These politicians are 'Double edged weapons'?.!!!

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Dev, Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Again another slip by Francis!!!
Humans existed when Dinosaurs were walking on this earth millions of years ago,as humans like now, disproving the theory of Darwin's evolution from ape to man.
Human foot prints of that age along with dinosaur remains found preserved in fossils. Scientific test proved they are not fake creation.
Conclusion- "Human Religion" existed even before any religion came into existence.
Aliens or Angels(devathes) or Gandharvas imparted many knowledge to us(less developed than them) from that era seems the right theory.
Francis it is better to leave Religious Discourse to the learned leaders who practice what they preach.

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Ramakrishna. K. , Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Leave aside human beings, no mammals existed during the times of dinosaurs. This has been scientifically proved. At that time only egg-laying species existed on this earth.
Darwins theory is right or wrong but it has also been proved scientifically that "Ape" species first appeared about Forty Lakh years ago on this earth.

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Dev, Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Science is not stagnant water which stinks, but evolves as new scientific proofs emerge proving man was existing in dinosaur era as well.
Science always believes something with evidence but changes its statements after new evidence disproving the earlier evidences emerges later.
It seems most of the scientists or people are ignorant about existence of fossils of human foot prints along with dinosaur remains dating back to the age quoted by you.

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Lawreence, Mumbai
Mon, Jul 28 2014
The damage he has done can not be undone,the words once go out of mouth can not be recalled.He should have been careful what he was speaking.

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Valerian Dsouza, Udupi/Mumbai
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Hindu culture, food, clothing and many customs are really good and MOST suitable to Indian environment.
Most of the people are also good, therefore are adjusting anywhere in the world without much conflicts, except VERY FEW radicals.

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India First, India
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Sir, You have not done any mistake !! One should have a brave heart to accept the truth..... People like you can bring the changes in our country !!

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Vishal Gopal, Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Dear Mr D'Souza, with all respect I consider you to be an intelligent person, but NOT SO INTELLIGENT as to distinguish between Hindustan as nation and Hindu as religion. Besides since when our nation is known more as India or Bharat, and no more Hindustan, unlike "Pakistan", "Kazakstan", "Uzbekistan", etc.... What more, the situation in past might have been different, but that does not mean that we don't progress, and along with progress many changes take place. Should we remain only in the past? Why don't you travel in bullock cart, but take modern vehicles? etc. etc....... Use brains.

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Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
FRANCIS,

WHAT YOU TOLD BEFORE IT WAS FROM BOTTOM OF YOUR HEART...YOU ARE THE VICTIM OF CONVERSION BY BRITISH'S...NOW HERE IN THIS COLLUM PEOPLE WILL MAKE THEIR OWN STORIES AND WILL WRITE...

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Dev, Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Disciple of Jesus, St Thomas landed in Kerala 2000 years ago to propagate his master's Salvation to Indians.
Portuguese converted Goans than British as you think.
Brits came only for Trade & Wealth unlike others who wanted to propagate their religion to Bharath.

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R.C.Kamath, Mangalore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Mr. Dev, You are 100% right. I have read alot on these issues and would support your view / comment.

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capt.Cornelio, udyavar
Mon, Jul 28 2014
He is trying to please his BJP bosses for his survival.we all know how low a politician can stoop to survive in politics.

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Kamath, Udupi/Bangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Problems for the new govt seem to ensue from within BJP & its allies. These reckless statements bring disrepute & no amount of apology can undo it. One must agree, Congress has been reasonably constructive in their criticism

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Nagesh Naik, Kodialbail/Mangaore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
We are all HINDUSTANI..thats why Corruption and BHEMANI..
If there is free visa citizenship for foreign developed country .. almost everyone will stand up with duplicate document..
We never invented single technology in Industrial sector/ Medical/computer/Education.. we just copy from foreign country and duplicate like original and sell them at original price and make money..

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HENRY MISQUITH, Bahrain
Mon, Jul 28 2014
You are right Mr.Minister. Hindu is your culture, Christianity is your religion & changing colour is your habit. Mistake is not your's, because tongue is boneless?

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Ranjith Rodrigues, udupi
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Earlier he spoke under the potent power of fenny. Now he has explained his argument. Every catholic, muslim and other minorities should respect our hindu culture even though we might follow different religions. We were all hindus hundreds of years ago. Even during mass we give the namaste symbol as a sign of peace to one another.

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Matthew, Nitte
Mon, Jul 28 2014
What is there to apologize ? Just because my ancestors took a Portuguese lastname does not make me Portuguese. "Hindus" was a term used for those civilizations to the south of Hindukush mountains. We have a culture that spans 5000 yrs. Why should anyone apologize for that ? We were/still are hindus but with different religions. Just the way an Egyptian,Saudi,Emirati etc are of different nationalities but call themselves arabs.

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joseph, Udupi
Mon, Jul 28 2014
The Dy. CM is right, we all are culturally Hindus irrespective of our religion. We should not forget that our forefathers were Hindus. By religion we follow a particular belief but we blindly follow the western or arabic culture and that rightly irks or an eyesoar to the Sangh Parivar and a correction here is the need of the day.

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stan, dubai
Mon, Jul 28 2014
If you walk naked and police catches don't tell them that we all born naked.... what is the problem if I am without cloth?

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Nithin, Mangalore/SA
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Whats wrong in Deputy CM's Statement, There was no Need for apology, By race we are all Indians and ALL were Hindus, People got converted either forced to convert[Islam] or got converted for greed of Money & Land given by Christian Missionaries [ Today these are Christians ].., Can ANYBODY [ Muslim/Christian ]deny today there forefathers were NOT an HINDU ..,

Irrespective of Religion be a PATRIOT to INDIA FIRST..Thats what is the need of this Country Presently...!!

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Jerry, Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Chameleon changing colors...

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Robin Vaz, Mumbai/Canada
Mon, Jul 28 2014
I truly agree with Francis D'Souza's comments. Religion is the root cause of all evil on this earth and has been a very effective tool in dividing masses for one's own motives. Cheers....

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TUSHAR KANTI CHOWDHURY, BURDWAN,WEST BENGAL
Mon, Jul 28 2014
This is the correct remark of deputy C.M.of Goa it is too late but but it necessary.

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Vijay Prabhu, Kundapur/Canada
Mon, Jul 28 2014
In my opinion Mr. Francis D'Souza is stating an historical fact. I personally don't see anything amiss in his statement.

The fact is India (Bharat, Hindustan) was predominantly a Hindu nation, having a number of gods and various beliefs before Christianity was first brought to the shores of South Eastern Coast of India (the present state of Kerala) by St. Thomas, one of the 12 apostles of Christ during the first century.

It was much later, around mid 16th century that the European Explorers (Portuguese, British, French etc.) landed on the shores of India for trading, plundering the riches, spices etc. along with missionaries and converted a lot of Indians to various forms of Christianity e.g. Anglican, Methodists, etc.

Of course, prior to this event the other warriors, emperors including Alexander the Great invaded northern India including the moguls and Islam or Muslim religion was established.

But this all history now. Suffice to say that we are all human beings and by birth Indians of various religions and culture. Hence, we should all live together in harmony and peacefully. Live and Let Live!!

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Tomas Richard, Udupi
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Mr Prabhu, there is strong possibility that Jesus himself had visited India before he started his ministry..these period in Jesus life (13 to 30yrs of his age) is called dark age bible dont talk about this.

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Henry Sequeira, Kateel, USA
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Mr. Vijay Prabhu Kundapur/Canada you spoke the truth and what you say is the present reality of India. What you said matters and that is the only truth. Once one gets out of country one begins to appreciate our own. God Bless India!!!

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Mohit, Dubai
Tue, Jul 29 2014
No one is disputing your facts. The problem here is with those few who cannot handle or associate 'Hindu' to any part of their vocabulary. What difference does it make if he says he is a Hindu Christian or Sikh Christian

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Peter, Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
What is the use of apologizing now? One should think before he/she spit-out anything. Now what is the use of twisting / playing with the words. This applies to all political leaders irrespective of which party they belongs to. Simple irresponsible words trigger in violence and the ordinary innocent people have to pay the price.

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Oliver, Bangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
This time I will agree with you 100% :)

Hindu Culture is one of the oldest and great too. We should be proud to have such culture in our country.

Regards,
Oliver

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PEDDU, mangaluroo
Mon, Jul 28 2014
there is nothing special in it as usual typical politician made a irresponsible statement and apologized . when they will learn ? SIR CHURCHILL WAS RIGHT

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ISMAIL K PERINJE, PERINJE.
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Offering apology is in fact shame on him.Good or bad stick to your heart and @ somebody's pressure you demonstrated that you are coward.Some one in this column rightly said that YOU ARE UNFIT TO BECOME AN MINISTER OR PEOPLE'S REP.

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Rajesh Shetty, Mlore Shj
Mon, Jul 28 2014
If he had said India should become a Muslim nation, you would have recommended Bharatha Ratna for him !. Freedom of Expression is demand & right limted for few eh to chant anti-Modi rant ??

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ISMAIL K PERINJE, PERINJE.
Mon, Jul 28 2014
CHADDI FOLLOWERS can't digest reality and history of India.In fact Cheddi never respect Constitution of India nor judicial system.

Francis must be bold enough to say that he is CHRISTIAN HINDU,under pressure again he changed his oath!These kind of politicians are hypocrite for their own business.

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Mahendra Shetty, Mumbai Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Perinje Saab,

WHATEVER YOU TOLD ABOUT CHADDIS IT'S YOUR VIEW......WHAT ABOUT DAADIS WHO IS CREATING TENSIONS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY....???

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Wilson, Doha
Mon, Jul 28 2014
He did not speak But cashew penny spoken other day, now Mr Francis spoke today......

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Joseph F. Gonsalves, Bannur, Puttur / Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
This is your last chance dear Goa deputy CM Francis D'Souza.

CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION.
JESUS DID NOT MADE A RELIGION.
CHRISTIANITY IS FAITH IN WHICH CHRISTIANS PUT HOPE AND FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

COME TO ME DEAR Goa deputy CM Francis D'Souza I WILL TEACH YOU THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST.

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Vasu, India
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Joseph, a couple of corrections. Christianity 'IS' a religion. You are right that Jesus did not create a religion. It was a few hundred years later some folks decided to use Jesus to create Christianity. This is why several leaders stated that they love Jesus but hate the Christians. I always wondered why, now it is clear how a national pride ( of being a Hindu/Hindustani/Indian ) is dismissed in support of a faith. No different than Sharia.
Also, I would be interested in understanding the faith of Jesus.

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Prabhu, Blore
Tue, Jul 29 2014
Faith is confidence or trust in a person, thing, deity, view, or in the doctrines or teachings of a religion. It can also be defined as belief that "" is not based on proof,""[1] as well as confidence based on some degree of warrant.[2][3] The word faith is often used as a synonym for hope,[4] trust,[5] or belief.
More e details go to council Nichiea divinity"

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Louis Maxim, Udupi/Kuwait
Tue, Jul 29 2014
During mass we say in Konkani " Thunch Eshwar Thunch Parameshwar, that is acceptable? Those names represents Sanathana Dharma.

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sid, mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
he did not say any thing wrong . all he said was we are hindustanis and every christian is a hindu christian or a hindu muslim meaning hinustani ....

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Ahmed, Mangalore
Mon, Jul 28 2014
Correct way to say is, I am an Indian Muslim or Hindustani Muslim not Hindu Muslim.

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